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I don't know - there are RAF (UK) and USAF military jets here. I'm

not familiar with which are which although sometimes can see the

insignia, they are so close, but I haven't gone outside to look. Its

bad enough inside.

What it means is making me sickkkkkkkk

> > Having a bad day.<

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> Sherri, I can understand how you feel. What planes are they? I

mean whose? And where are they going and what are they doing?

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At 04:15 PM 12/04/2002 -0600, you wrote:

>> Having a bad day.<

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>Sherri, I can understand how you feel. What planes are they? I mean

whose? And where are they going and what are they doing?

I don't know if US or UK airforce

Airforce jets practicing

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Hi Candance,

We're here for ya Sweetie... Just start typing and let it all out in a vent, sometimes that helps a little... Do you see a Dr soon??? Is there anyone around that you can talk to in your town??? Hang in there, winters almost over...

((( Happy Hugs )))Helen

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i don't know what you posted but it shouldn't matter. these groups are here for support and that is exactly what you should get. i left a depression group because of how they were posting to one of the members. it just wasn't very supportive. anyway we all go thru those days, just hang in there. if you need to talk drop me a line. evelynCandace <candozier@...> wrote: Didn't want to start my year off like this...but I keep coming back to this particular "place" and I don't know WHAT to do

anymore. Left the Depression & Loneliness group this morning because I was told I posted something I shouldn't have. I'm just TIRED.....cure cystic fibrosis

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AWWWWW SWEETIE;; THERE WILL BE BETTER DAYS AGAIN;; HUGS DORTCandace <candozier@...> wrote: Didn't want to start my year off like this...but I keep coming back to this particular "place" and I don't know WHAT to do anymore. Left the Depression & Loneliness group this morning because I was told I posted something I shouldn't have. I'm just TIRED.....

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> Didn't want to start my year off like this...but I keep

coming back to

> this particular " place " and I don't know WHAT to do anymore. Left the

> Depression & Loneliness group this morning because I was told I

posted

> something I shouldn't have.

>

> I'm just TIRED.....

>

I wish " hugs " would help...NOTHING is helping me right now!

I just can't keep doing this anymore...I really CAN'T take it

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I too am caught in the doldrums. I even have friends and had a good

New Year's Eve with them. But I am pissed at the people in my church

and the muthas that see my resume and don't even consider it because I

am old, let alone the fact that I am in a wheelchair.

But today I had a brief quiet time. Still mad at God, but at least

we're speaking. There are illusions abouyt my life with women that I

need to look at with realism.

I have no advice, because I do not know you. But you hava a beautiful

name, Candace, like Candy. Try being silent in the face of the grim

mysteries of life. It is still better to be here; where there is

life, there is hope. Keep what you have gained in spite of setbacks.

I hope it all works out.

>

> Didn't want to start my year off like this...but I keep coming back

to

> this particular " place " and I don't know WHAT to do anymore. Left

the

> Depression & Loneliness group this morning because I was told I

posted

> something I shouldn't have.

>

> I'm just TIRED.....

>

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>

>

> Hi Candace,

> We're here for ya Sweetie... Just start typing and let it all

out in a

> vent, sometimes that helps a little... Do you see a Dr soon???

Is there

> anyone around that you can talk to in your town??? Hang in there,

winters almost

> over...

> ((( Happy Hugs )))

> Helen

>

> Didn't want to start my year off like this...but I keep coming

back to

> this particular " place " and I don't know WHAT to do anymore. Left

the

> Depression & Loneliness group this morning because I was told I

posted

> something I shouldn't have.

>

> I'm just TIRED.....

>

>

>

>

>

>

> " When life's problems seem overwhelming,

> look around and see what other people are coping with. You may

consider

> yourself fortunate. "

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

Right now, not much seems to be helping. Just having an " issue " and

I have pretty much accepted this person doesn't share my feelings.

If I could " vent " to this person in particular, it would help...but

she seems too angry or resentful (or whatever she wants to call it)

towards me at the moment. lol

I'm just exhausted from trying to " fix something " that I don't even

think I broke!

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> Didn't want to start my year off like this...but I keep

coming back to

> this particular " place " and I don't know WHAT to do anymore. Left

the

> Depression & Loneliness group this morning because I was told I

posted

> something I shouldn't have.

>

> I'm just TIRED.....

>

>

>

>

>

>

> cure cystic fibrosis

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It was a little religious piece that a friend of mine on MySpace

posted. I was told it wasn't allowed.

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> Didn't want to start my year off like this...but I keep

coming back to

> this particular " place " and I don't know WHAT to do anymore. Left the

> Depression & Loneliness group this morning because I was told I

posted

> something I shouldn't have.

>

> I'm just TIRED.....

>

Yeah, but the good and the bad days ae kinda runnin' neck and neck with

each other. I wish " hugs " could help.

BTW...I'm online now.

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G'day all,

Well, I've just returned from taking Bayly to the hospital to see his

Paed Rheumy. And for the first time in a long time I had terrible

trouble not falling apart in front of everyone. Since it's the new

Clinics at our local teaching hospital there was the Paed Rheumy, plus

two student doctors, a student pharmacist, Bayly, and me. Thank

goodness the 2 nurses had left the room!

Seems the swelling in Bayly's left wrist is an arthritis flare up after

all, so it's back to Sydney for hospital again, to put my little boy

under anaesthetic for the 8th time in his life- the third this year!!

Yep, another round of aspirations and injections (they're going to watch

the hip, and decide whether to do the knee then too).

I know I looked like I was barely holding it together, I felt my face

was red hot, my eyes filled with tears, and no one seemed game to say

anything in case I lost it then and there. Then we had to see the

physiotherapist afterwards and she knew exactly where I was at, and gave

me a reassuring rub on the arm (so had Dr C), so I nearly lost it then.

I was so upset because I am simply sick to death of this bloody disease!

And I was sooo frustrated because Bayly went all shy and wouldn't speak

when they were asking him questions, so wouldn't answer their questions

about what joint hurt and how much, therefore it took even longer to

assess him. I was trying and trying to encourage him to talk. Then I

got a bit cross and said I didn't want to hear the baby talk that he

then came out with. And then when Dr C said he really needed to see us

in Sydney, well, that was it. Aside from the obvious worry, I still

don't have a car that will make the trip and I really don't fancy doing

the train and friend's car thing again (I hate putting others out!) so I

had one of those rotten anxiety attacks and only barely held it

together.

Fell apart once we got back to the car, cried all the way to Mcs

to buy Bayly a treat for being so brave, and to apologise for letting

him see me cry like that (in all these years I've tried never to do so).

Cried when his Teacher and Aide asked me at school how I was going, and

telling me how strong I was (ha!)

Then came home and cried again. Crying now just for the hell of it.

Grant's asleep and I feel so alone. So over it. So damned sad.

Thanks for giving me a place to let it out. Lord knows there's not a

lot of support in other places.

Jo

Bayly, 7, extended oligo

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Jo, I'm so sorry. I know that doesn't help, but like someone once told me,

we've all been there, and we all totally understand what you are feeling. We

all hate the bloody disease and the way it affects our kids.

Please give your sweet Bayly a gentle hug from the son's here in Utah, and

know we are thinking of him.

Love,

From: joking70@...

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:46:36 +0000

Subject: Having a bad day

G'day all,

Well, I've just returned from taking Bayly to the hospital to see his

Paed Rheumy. And for the first time in a long time I had terrible

trouble not falling apart in front of everyone. Since it's the new

Clinics at our local teaching hospital there was the Paed Rheumy, plus

two student doctors, a student pharmacist, Bayly, and me. Thank

goodness the 2 nurses had left the room!

Seems the swelling in Bayly's left wrist is an arthritis flare up after

all, so it's back to Sydney for hospital again, to put my little boy

under anaesthetic for the 8th time in his life- the third this year!!

Yep, another round of aspirations and injections (they're going to watch

the hip, and decide whether to do the knee then too).

I know I looked like I was barely holding it together, I felt my face

was red hot, my eyes filled with tears, and no one seemed game to say

anything in case I lost it then and there. Then we had to see the

physiotherapist afterwards and she knew exactly where I was at, and gave

me a reassuring rub on the arm (so had Dr C), so I nearly lost it then.

I was so upset because I am simply sick to death of this bloody disease!

And I was sooo frustrated because Bayly went all shy and wouldn't speak

when they were asking him questions, so wouldn't answer their questions

about what joint hurt and how much, therefore it took even longer to

assess him. I was trying and trying to encourage him to talk. Then I

got a bit cross and said I didn't want to hear the baby talk that he

then came out with. And then when Dr C said he really needed to see us

in Sydney, well, that was it. Aside from the obvious worry, I still

don't have a car that will make the trip and I really don't fancy doing

the train and friend's car thing again (I hate putting others out!) so I

had one of those rotten anxiety attacks and only barely held it

together.

Fell apart once we got back to the car, cried all the way to Mcs

to buy Bayly a treat for being so brave, and to apologise for letting

him see me cry like that (in all these years I've tried never to do so).

Cried when his Teacher and Aide asked me at school how I was going, and

telling me how strong I was (ha!)

Then came home and cried again. Crying now just for the hell of it.

Grant's asleep and I feel so alone. So over it. So damned sad.

Thanks for giving me a place to let it out. Lord knows there's not a

lot of support in other places.

Jo

Bayly, 7, extended oligo

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Jo- I know just how you are feeling and it does make one feel much better to

just let it out. Glad we could be here for you. You and Bayly will be in my

thoughts and prayers.

& Grant (12, psoriatic/uveitis)

>

>

> G'day all,

>

> Well, I've just returned from taking Bayly to the hospital to see his

> Paed Rheumy. And for the first time in a long time I had terrible

> trouble not falling apart in front of everyone. Since it's the new

> Clinics at our local teaching hospital there was the Paed Rheumy, plus

> two student doctors, a student pharmacist, Bayly, and me. Thank

> goodness the 2 nurses had left the room!

>

> Seems the swelling in Bayly's left wrist is an arthritis flare up after

> all, so it's back to Sydney for hospital again, to put my little boy

> under anaesthetic for the 8th time in his life- the third this year!!

> Yep, another round of aspirations and injections (they're going to watch

> the hip, and decide whether to do the knee then too).

>

> I know I looked like I was barely holding it together, I felt my face

> was red hot, my eyes filled with tears, and no one seemed game to say

> anything in case I lost it then and there. Then we had to see the

> physiotherapist afterwards and she knew exactly where I was at, and gave

> me a reassuring rub on the arm (so had Dr C), so I nearly lost it then.

>

> I was so upset because I am simply sick to death of this bloody disease!

> And I was sooo frustrated because Bayly went all shy and wouldn't speak

> when they were asking him questions, so wouldn't answer their questions

> about what joint hurt and how much, therefore it took even longer to

> assess him. I was trying and trying to encourage him to talk. Then I

> got a bit cross and said I didn't want to hear the baby talk that he

> then came out with. And then when Dr C said he really needed to see us

> in Sydney, well, that was it. Aside from the obvious worry, I still

> don't have a car that will make the trip and I really don't fancy doing

> the train and friend's car thing again (I hate putting others out!) so I

> had one of those rotten anxiety attacks and only barely held it

> together.

>

> Fell apart once we got back to the car, cried all the way to Mcs

> to buy Bayly a treat for being so brave, and to apologise for letting

> him see me cry like that (in all these years I've tried never to do so).

>

> Cried when his Teacher and Aide asked me at school how I was going, and

> telling me how strong I was (ha!)

>

> Then came home and cried again. Crying now just for the hell of it.

>

> Grant's asleep and I feel so alone. So over it. So damned sad.

>

> Thanks for giving me a place to let it out. Lord knows there's not a

> lot of support in other places.

>

> Jo

>

> Bayly, 7, extended oligo

>

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The rollercoaster ride of life with a child who has medical issues...Jo, you are

incredibly strong and you will stand back up after this latest blow has knocked

you down...will be keeping you and your family in thought and prayer...

and Rob 20 JAS

Re: Having a bad day

> Jo- I know just how you are feeling and it does make one

> feel much better to just let it out. Glad we could be here

> for you. You and Bayly will be in my thoughts and prayers.

>

> & Grant (12, psoriatic/uveitis)

>

>

> >

> >

> > G'day all,

> >

> > Well, I've just returned from taking Bayly to the hospital to

> see his

> > Paed Rheumy. And for the first time in a long time I had terrible

> > trouble not falling apart in front of everyone. Since

> it's the new

> > Clinics at our local teaching hospital there was the Paed

> Rheumy, plus

> > two student doctors, a student pharmacist, Bayly, and

> me. Thank

> > goodness the 2 nurses had left the room!

> >

> > Seems the swelling in Bayly's left wrist is an arthritis flare

> up after

> > all, so it's back to Sydney for hospital again, to put

> my little boy

> > under anaesthetic for the 8th time in his life- the third this

> year!!

> > Yep, another round of aspirations and injections (they're

> going to watch

> > the hip, and decide whether to do the knee then too).

> >

> > I know I looked like I was barely holding it together, I felt

> my face

> > was red hot, my eyes filled with tears, and no one seemed game

> to say

> > anything in case I lost it then and there. Then we

> had to see the

> > physiotherapist afterwards and she knew exactly where I was

> at, and gave

> > me a reassuring rub on the arm (so had Dr C), so I nearly lost

> it then.

> >

> > I was so upset because I am simply sick to death of this

> bloody disease!

> > And I was sooo frustrated because Bayly went all shy and

> wouldn't speak

> > when they were asking him questions, so wouldn't answer their

> questions> about what joint hurt and how much, therefore it took

> even longer to

> > assess him. I was trying and trying to

> encourage him to talk. Then I

> > got a bit cross and said I didn't want to hear the baby talk

> that he

> > then came out with. And then when Dr C said he really

> needed to see us

> > in Sydney, well, that was it. Aside from the obvious

> worry, I still

> > don't have a car that will make the trip and I really don't

> fancy doing

> > the train and friend's car thing again (I hate putting others

> out!) so I

> > had one of those rotten anxiety attacks and only barely held it

> > together.

> >

> > Fell apart once we got back to the car, cried all the way to

> Mcs> to buy Bayly a treat for being so brave, and to

> apologise for letting

> > him see me cry like that (in all these years I've tried never

> to do so).

> >

> > Cried when his Teacher and Aide asked me at school how I was

> going, and

> > telling me how strong I was (ha!)

> >

> > Then came home and cried again. Crying now just for the

> hell of it.

> >

> > Grant's asleep and I feel so alone. So over it. So

> damned sad.

> >

> > Thanks for giving me a place to let it out. Lord knows

> there's not a

> > lot of support in other places.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > Bayly, 7, extended oligo

> >

>

>

>

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Jo:

You don't get to feel bad for losing it...you wanna know why.   Because it's

good for you once in a while.  We have all been there and will all continue to

be there as long we are caring for our kids with health issues.  Losing it here

is healthy because everyone of us understands.  When I'm feeling down I do

tell people (those who ask and truly care) that yes, sometimes it is hard being

Hannah's mom, but I would not trade her for anything.  God chose her to deal

with what she does for a reason. 

I'm sorry Bay is having such issues, but he will get through it, so will his

mum.   Lots and lots of hugs for you.

Beth & Hannah, 12, OA, HMJS; asthma; allergies; migraines, vitamin d deficiency

 

Beth :)

" We can't direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails " -author unknown

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From: Jo & Grant <joking70@...>

Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:46:36 PM

Subject: Having a bad day

 

G'day all,

Well, I've just returned from taking Bayly to the hospital to see his

Paed Rheumy. And for the first time in a long time I had terrible

trouble not falling apart in front of everyone. Since it's the new

Clinics at our local teaching hospital there was the Paed Rheumy, plus

two student doctors, a student pharmacist, Bayly, and me. Thank

goodness the 2 nurses had left the room!

Seems the swelling in Bayly's left wrist is an arthritis flare up after

all, so it's back to Sydney for hospital again, to put my little boy

under anaesthetic for the 8th time in his life- the third this year!!

Yep, another round of aspirations and injections (they're going to watch

the hip, and decide whether to do the knee then too).

I know I looked like I was barely holding it together, I felt my face

was red hot, my eyes filled with tears, and no one seemed game to say

anything in case I lost it then and there. Then we had to see the

physiotherapist afterwards and she knew exactly where I was at, and gave

me a reassuring rub on the arm (so had Dr C), so I nearly lost it then.

I was so upset because I am simply sick to death of this bloody disease!

And I was sooo frustrated because Bayly went all shy and wouldn't speak

when they were asking him questions, so wouldn't answer their questions

about what joint hurt and how much, therefore it took even longer to

assess him. I was trying and trying to encourage him to talk. Then I

got a bit cross and said I didn't want to hear the baby talk that he

then came out with. And then when Dr C said he really needed to see us

in Sydney, well, that was it. Aside from the obvious worry, I still

don't have a car that will make the trip and I really don't fancy doing

the train and friend's car thing again (I hate putting others out!) so I

had one of those rotten anxiety attacks and only barely held it

together.

Fell apart once we got back to the car, cried all the way to Mcs

to buy Bayly a treat for being so brave, and to apologise for letting

him see me cry like that (in all these years I've tried never to do so).

Cried when his Teacher and Aide asked me at school how I was going, and

telling me how strong I was (ha!)

Then came home and cried again. Crying now just for the hell of it.

Grant's asleep and I feel so alone. So over it. So damned sad.

Thanks for giving me a place to let it out. Lord knows there's not a

lot of support in other places.

Jo

Bayly, 7, extended oligo

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I'm so sorry, Jo. I know how much it sucks. I've had plenty of times

breaking down like that. I can talk about arthritis in general, but

when it comes to my child I just can't with certain people. I thought

we had a flare starting and felt like it was the end of the world. I'm

sure that our rheumy's deal with emotional mom's like us all of the

time. You just get tired. 98% of the time I have this awesome outlook,

but we are all prone to breaking. Hopefully it will be over with

quickly. When are you due to take him to the hospital? I really hope

that the rest of the night gets better.

le & (7) RF+ poly JRA, scleroderma, Raynaud's, etc...

>

>

> G'day all,

>

> Well, I've just returned from taking Bayly to the hospital to see his

> Paed Rheumy. And for the first time in a long time I had terrible

> trouble not falling apart in front of everyone. Since it's the new

> Clinics at our local teaching hospital there was the Paed Rheumy, plus

> two student doctors, a student pharmacist, Bayly, and me. Thank

> goodness the 2 nurses had left the room!

>

> Seems the swelling in Bayly's left wrist is an arthritis flare up

after

> all, so it's back to Sydney for hospital again, to put my little boy

> under anaesthetic for the 8th time in his life- the third this year!!

> Yep, another round of aspirations and injections (they're going to

watch

> the hip, and decide whether to do the knee then too).

>

> I know I looked like I was barely holding it together, I felt my face

> was red hot, my eyes filled with tears, and no one seemed game to say

> anything in case I lost it then and there. Then we had to see the

> physiotherapist afterwards and she knew exactly where I was at, and

gave

> me a reassuring rub on the arm (so had Dr C), so I nearly lost it

then.

>

> I was so upset because I am simply sick to death of this bloody

disease!

> And I was sooo frustrated because Bayly went all shy and wouldn't

speak

> when they were asking him questions, so wouldn't answer their

questions

> about what joint hurt and how much, therefore it took even longer to

> assess him. I was trying and trying to encourage him to talk. Then

I

> got a bit cross and said I didn't want to hear the baby talk that he

> then came out with. And then when Dr C said he really needed to see

us

> in Sydney, well, that was it. Aside from the obvious worry, I still

> don't have a car that will make the trip and I really don't fancy

doing

> the train and friend's car thing again (I hate putting others out!) so

I

> had one of those rotten anxiety attacks and only barely held it

> together.

>

> Fell apart once we got back to the car, cried all the way to Mcs

> to buy Bayly a treat for being so brave, and to apologise for letting

> him see me cry like that (in all these years I've tried never to do

so).

>

> Cried when his Teacher and Aide asked me at school how I was going,

and

> telling me how strong I was (ha!)

>

> Then came home and cried again. Crying now just for the hell of it.

>

> Grant's asleep and I feel so alone. So over it. So damned sad.

>

> Thanks for giving me a place to let it out. Lord knows there's not a

> lot of support in other places.

>

> Jo

>

> Bayly, 7, extended oligo

>

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