Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Hi Beth, I guess this is probably a bittersweet diagnosis for the both of you.. Now we will just pray they come up with a way to help the both of you to ease your pain. People with Osteogenesis Imperfecta also have hypermobility, because Maggie is in her chair most of the time now we don't notice it so much but when she was up and walking around it really exhausted her to keep everything going in the right direction!! She also hyperextented her knee's horribly which made her very unstable. She would stand, run, fall and break! (not such a great combo!) We are thinking of you guys here in Iowa, things have been so busy trying to take care of both girls. Allyson has responed beautifully to her meds, now if we can just get her to continue taking them. She is a freshman in highschool and knows so much more than both her doctor and I. Maggie is just Maggie and as always her life is chaos! Take care and have a wonderful Mother's Day!! Sending hugs to Hannah too! Diane and Maggie age 11 (OI,CP, Autoinflammatory, Autoimmune, Primary Immunodeficiency, Uveitis.....etc etc Allyson age 15 (Lupus, Poly Arthritis) From: Beth Yohnk <yohnkmom@...> Subject: Finally a probable diagnosis! Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 1:22 AM Hello everyone. I haven't posted much lately as not much has changed with Hannah. She still has widespread joint pain with occasional swelling in her hands/knees/ elbows and ankles. If you remember she is extremely hypermobile in every joint. She has also been getting treatment for vitamin d deficiency, which contributes to the joint pain. She had been up at 1,200 units of vit d daily, which she did for 6 weeks. When he bumped her dose up her level got up to 26 (32 or better is the goal). When we repeated the labs she actually dropped back down to 20. She is now on 50,000 units weekly and will take the last dose tomorrow. Repeat labs one week after that. The other thing that has happened is that I have developed joint pain in most of the same joints as Hannah. I had already been diagnosed with OA in my back and neck. Thursday I took my first trip to a rheumy. He was awesome and thorough spending over an hour with me. He took the most involved history I've ever given. When we got to my family, he was quite intrigued with Hannah's story (his exact words were tell me everything from the beginning). After an extensive exam he diagnosed me with OA secondary to Hypermobility Joint Syndrome. Turns out I'm hypermobile in every joint too, including my feet. He said without even seeing Hannah, based on what I told him she has the same exact thing. Interesting how someone who never saw her came up with this and 6 years going to doctor after doctor couldn't. Hope you will continue to accept us here. There are NO groups for kids with OA. We could take Hannah to see this doctor, unfortunately he said until they come out with a real med for OA, there isn't anything more he could do for. He assured me we are doing with right things with her braces, ice, Tylenol, etc. and to let him know if I have any quesitons about either one of us. WOW Beth & Hannah, 12, probable OA secondary to Hypermobility Joint Syndrome (HMJS); asthma; vitamin d deficiency. Beth " We can't direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails " -author unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 i know someone with a OA childhood disease but can't think of the n ame of the disease.. it's unusual... she has fairly severe arthritis but its OA from early childhood and uses a wheelchair off and on. She's in medical school now. if you would like me to ask her to talk with you all,,. i will... she's really cool and nice. She's working in her pediatric rotation now and I know her via online. She is rather short for her age. She is a great writer, funny and well of course, inspiring.. ha... anyways, sounds like things are getting closer and closer to an answer for Hannah. Hugs Issadora On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Diane Wiederholt <hockeytough@...>wrote: > > > Hi Beth, > > I guess this is probably a bittersweet diagnosis for the both of you.. > Now we will just pray they come up with a way to help the both of you to > ease your pain. > > People with Osteogenesis Imperfecta also have hypermobility, because > Maggie is in her chair most of the time now we don't notice it so much but > when she was up and walking around it really exhausted her to keep > everything going in the right direction!! She also hyperextented her knee's > horribly which made her very unstable. She would stand, run, fall and > break! (not such a great combo!) > > We are thinking of you guys here in Iowa, things have been so busy trying > to take care of both girls. Allyson has responed beautifully to her meds, > now if we can just get her to continue taking them. She is a freshman in > highschool and knows so much more than both her doctor and I. Maggie is just > Maggie and as always her life is chaos! > > Take care and have a wonderful Mother's Day!! Sending hugs to Hannah > too! > > Diane and Maggie age 11 (OI,CP, Autoinflammatory, Autoimmune, Primary > Immunodeficiency, Uveitis.....etc etc > Allyson age 15 (Lupus, Poly Arthritis) > > > > > > From: Beth Yohnk <yohnkmom@... <yohnkmom%40sbcglobal.net>> > Subject: Finally a probable diagnosis! > < %40> > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 1:22 AM > > Hello everyone. > > I haven't posted much lately as not much has changed with Hannah. She > still has widespread joint pain with occasional swelling in her hands/knees/ > elbows and ankles. If you remember she is extremely hypermobile in every > joint. She has also been getting treatment for vitamin d deficiency, which > contributes to the joint pain. She had been up at 1,200 units of vit d > daily, which she did for 6 weeks. When he bumped her dose up her level got > up to 26 (32 or better is the goal). When we repeated the labs she actually > dropped back down to 20. She is now on 50,000 units weekly and will take > the last dose tomorrow. Repeat labs one week after that. > > The other thing that has happened is that I have developed joint pain in > most of the same joints as Hannah. I had already been diagnosed with OA in > my back and neck. Thursday I took my first trip to a rheumy. He was awesome > and thorough spending over an hour with me. He took the most involved > history I've ever given. When we got to my family, he was quite intrigued > with Hannah's story (his exact words were tell me everything from the > beginning). After an extensive exam he diagnosed me with OA secondary > to Hypermobility Joint Syndrome. Turns out I'm hypermobile in every joint > too, including my feet. He said without even seeing Hannah, based on what I > told him she has the same exact thing. Interesting how someone who never > saw her came up with this and 6 years going to doctor after doctor couldn't. > > Hope you will continue to accept us here. There are NO groups for kids > with OA. We could take Hannah to see this doctor, unfortunately he said > until they come out with a real med for OA, there isn't anything more he > could do for. He assured me we are doing with right things with her braces, > ice, Tylenol, etc. and to let him know if I have any quesitons about either > one of us. WOW > > Beth & Hannah, 12, probable OA secondary to Hypermobility Joint Syndrome > (HMJS); asthma; vitamin d deficiency. > > > > Beth > > " We can't direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails " -author unknown > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Hi Beth, Remember this, You and Hannah are in the right place here in this group. Remember another Parent may need your idea or knowledge here. We all are Family. JA means Juvenile Arthritis and on this there's 100 forms of Arthritis so this means she still has Juvenile Arthritis. :-). OA is a form of Arthritis. Now about the Vitamin D issue. Last summer our Dr did a test on both hubby and step dad and they were given Vitamin D pills 50,000 units per week. PLUS they had to sit out in the sun for 20 to 25 minutes per day. Well it has worked some. For she gets to craving Milk at times. This yr though she has been going out and laying in the sun for 30 minutes per day 15 minutes on one side and 15 on the other side lololol. There was a piece in our local paper about this very thing. A lot of people do not realize they are Vitamin D def as Drs do not screen for this. You have to ask your Dr to test you for it. So this is a good thing to ask your Dr about. I am glad though you have gotten a Diagnosis for you and Hannah. Here's a Study though. How many of the JA kid's have a Parent who experienced Joint pain prior to their child or after their child was Diagnosed? In my time with dealing with JA I have noticed many Mom's end up with Arthritis or Joint pain. Some in this group and some who I know locally. Here again is it enviromental, A Gene? What? Why does the Parent end up with this later and the child it hits hard in childhood? Is it food's? What makes it come out earlier for our kid's and later for us? I am so glad they are doing research on this Gene and I wish they would come to this group and listen and take notes about it. A CURE? Maybe down the road. But us Mom's here could give them a lot of info. Robbin P.S. Beth stay and be happy :-). I am staying even though is not a child anymore she is a Adult. Y'all are my second Family here and we all care about each other and Our JA Kids. **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntus\ trav00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Ostio Arthritis? From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Issadora Sent: 10 May 2009 07:43 Subject: Re: Finally a probable diagnosis! i know someone with a OA childhood disease but can't think of the n ame of the disease.. it's unusual... she has fairly severe arthritis but its OA from early childhood and uses a wheelchair off and on. She's in medical school now. if you would like me to ask her to talk with you all,,. i will... she's really cool and nice. She's working in her pediatric rotation now and I know her via online. She is rather short for her age. She is a great writer, funny and well of course, inspiring.. ha... anyways, sounds like things are getting closer and closer to an answer for Hannah. Hugs Issadora On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Diane Wiederholt <hockeytough@... <mailto:hockeytough%40> >wrote: > > > Hi Beth, > > I guess this is probably a bittersweet diagnosis for the both of you.. > Now we will just pray they come up with a way to help the both of you to > ease your pain. > > People with Osteogenesis Imperfecta also have hypermobility, because > Maggie is in her chair most of the time now we don't notice it so much but > when she was up and walking around it really exhausted her to keep > everything going in the right direction!! She also hyperextented her knee's > horribly which made her very unstable. She would stand, run, fall and > break! (not such a great combo!) > > We are thinking of you guys here in Iowa, things have been so busy trying > to take care of both girls. Allyson has responed beautifully to her meds, > now if we can just get her to continue taking them. She is a freshman in > highschool and knows so much more than both her doctor and I. Maggie is just > Maggie and as always her life is chaos! > > Take care and have a wonderful Mother's Day!! Sending hugs to Hannah > too! > > Diane and Maggie age 11 (OI,CP, Autoinflammatory, Autoimmune, Primary > Immunodeficiency, Uveitis.....etc etc > Allyson age 15 (Lupus, Poly Arthritis) > > > > > > From: Beth Yohnk <yohnkmom@... <mailto:yohnkmom%40sbcglobal.net> <yohnkmom%40sbcglobal.net>> > Subject: Finally a probable diagnosis! > <mailto: %40> < %40> > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 1:22 AM > > Hello everyone. > > I haven't posted much lately as not much has changed with Hannah. She > still has widespread joint pain with occasional swelling in her hands/knees/ > elbows and ankles. If you remember she is extremely hypermobile in every > joint. She has also been getting treatment for vitamin d deficiency, which > contributes to the joint pain. She had been up at 1,200 units of vit d > daily, which she did for 6 weeks. When he bumped her dose up her level got > up to 26 (32 or better is the goal). When we repeated the labs she actually > dropped back down to 20. She is now on 50,000 units weekly and will take > the last dose tomorrow. Repeat labs one week after that. > > The other thing that has happened is that I have developed joint pain in > most of the same joints as Hannah. I had already been diagnosed with OA in > my back and neck. Thursday I took my first trip to a rheumy. He was awesome > and thorough spending over an hour with me. He took the most involved > history I've ever given. When we got to my family, he was quite intrigued > with Hannah's story (his exact words were tell me everything from the > beginning). After an extensive exam he diagnosed me with OA secondary > to Hypermobility Joint Syndrome. Turns out I'm hypermobile in every joint > too, including my feet. He said without even seeing Hannah, based on what I > told him she has the same exact thing. Interesting how someone who never > saw her came up with this and 6 years going to doctor after doctor couldn't. > > Hope you will continue to accept us here. There are NO groups for kids > with OA. We could take Hannah to see this doctor, unfortunately he said > until they come out with a real med for OA, there isn't anything more he > could do for. He assured me we are doing with right things with her braces, > ice, Tylenol, etc. and to let him know if I have any quesitons about either > one of us. WOW > > Beth & Hannah, 12, probable OA secondary to Hypermobility Joint Syndrome > (HMJS); asthma; vitamin d deficiency. > > > > Beth > > " We can't direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails " -author unknown > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Osteoarthritis? xxxxxxxx From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Robbin40@... Sent: 10 May 2009 15:02 Subject: Re: Finally a probable diagnosis! Hi Beth, Remember this, You and Hannah are in the right place here in this group. Remember another Parent may need your idea or knowledge here. We all are Family. JA means Juvenile Arthritis and on this there's 100 forms of Arthritis so this means she still has Juvenile Arthritis. :-). OA is a form of Arthritis. Now about the Vitamin D issue. Last summer our Dr did a test on both hubby and step dad and they were given Vitamin D pills 50,000 units per week. PLUS they had to sit out in the sun for 20 to 25 minutes per day. Well it has worked some. For she gets to craving Milk at times. This yr though she has been going out and laying in the sun for 30 minutes per day 15 minutes on one side and 15 on the other side lololol. There was a piece in our local paper about this very thing. A lot of people do not realize they are Vitamin D def as Drs do not screen for this. You have to ask your Dr to test you for it. So this is a good thing to ask your Dr about. I am glad though you have gotten a Diagnosis for you and Hannah. Here's a Study though. How many of the JA kid's have a Parent who experienced Joint pain prior to their child or after their child was Diagnosed? In my time with dealing with JA I have noticed many Mom's end up with Arthritis or Joint pain. Some in this group and some who I know locally. Here again is it enviromental, A Gene? What? Why does the Parent end up with this later and the child it hits hard in childhood? Is it food's? What makes it come out earlier for our kid's and later for us? I am so glad they are doing research on this Gene and I wish they would come to this group and listen and take notes about it. A CURE? Maybe down the road. But us Mom's here could give them a lot of info. Robbin P.S. Beth stay and be happy :-). I am staying even though is not a child anymore she is a Adult. Y'all are my second Family here and we all care about each other and Our JA Kids. **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlc ntustrav00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Oh my Gosh! That has to feel like a weight has been lifted. Although I'm also very aware that this isn't exactly " good news " , it's a huge step in the right direction for you. I'm sorry to hear that you are experiencing the same joint pain. What tx can they do if any? My husband has OA and we have been told nothing can be done but am fairly sure your OA is not the typical degenerative OA? hugs! -Hadley > > Hello everyone. > I haven't posted much lately as not much has changed with Hannah. She still has widespread joint pain with occasional swelling in her hands/knees/elbows and ankles. If you remember she is extremely hypermobile in every joint. She has also been getting treatment for vitamin d deficiency, which contributes to the joint pain. She had been up at 1,200 units of vit d daily, which she did for 6 weeks. When he bumped her dose up her level got up to 26 (32 or better is the goal). When we repeated the labs she actually dropped back down to 20. She is now on 50,000 units weekly and will take the last dose tomorrow. Repeat labs one week after that. > > The other thing that has happened is that I have developed joint pain in most of the same joints as Hannah. I had already been diagnosed with OA in my back and neck. Thursday I took my first trip to a rheumy. He was awesome and thorough spending over an hour with me. He took the most involved history I've ever given. When we got to my family, he was quite intrigued with Hannah's story (his exact words were tell me everything from the beginning). After an extensive exam he diagnosed me with OA secondary to Hypermobility Joint Syndrome. Turns out I'm hypermobile in every joint too, including my feet. He said without even seeing Hannah, based on what I told him she has the same exact thing. Interesting how someone who never saw her came up with this and 6 years going to doctor after doctor couldn't. > > Hope you will continue to accept us here. There are NO groups for kids with OA. We could take Hannah to see this doctor, unfortunately he said until they come out with a real med for OA, there isn't anything more he could do for. He assured me we are doing with right things with her braces, ice, Tylenol, etc. and to let him know if I have any quesitons about either one of us. WOW > > Beth & Hannah, 12, probable OA secondary to Hypermobility Joint Syndrome (HMJS); asthma; vitamin d deficiency. > > > Beth > " We can't direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails " -author unknown > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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