Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Sonomi, I am so sorry to hear about this change of events for you. It is too bad that your surgery did not take place when the old insurance had approved it. Can you use this same information that was used to approve your old insurance with your new insurance? You mentioned that you had headaches....have these continued? Please let us know how this turns out for your new insurance coverage. Hopefully they will be willing to approve it, so you can have your explant as scheduled. Thanks for keeping us updated on your situation. Also, thank you for sharing the letter from the woman with the silicone gel implants. It is interesting that this woman was a part of it the Mentor study. I wonder what the future will bring with that, and it makes me cringe to think that they may bring back silicone gel on the market. What a tragic mistake that would be. Take care, Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: " johnson sonomi " <sonomijohnson@...> < > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 8:56 PM Subject: hopeless > hi patty and justine. > how are you? > i'm ok so far. > my old insurance aprroved my surgery. > did i tell you my husband company told us they change to another insurance > company.in start july. > i had to start all over again. > now i'm waiting what my insurance say. > i recive mail from lady dr's office, she said she need my medical > information. > i feel like hopeless again.... > i'm unlucky or what? > my old insurance was aprroved my surgery. > i should have surgery in july 24. > now i had to change to AUG.maybe in SEP... > I'm really wish i never ever have implant in my body... > tommorow i'm going to my clinic ( in this compound) office. > ask Dr copy my medical record. > but that is JAN. > it is old. > also i have headache so i need go to clinic ask dr for medicine few time. > if they have this medical record do you think it is help? > i feel so hopeless again. > > well i recieve e-mail from www.skepticism.net > how do you think about this? > > i hope hear from you soon. > Love > Sonomi > > > >From: Jill <mercurygirl3@...> > >Reply-skepticism-site@... > >sonomijohnson <sonomijohnson@...> > >Subject: RE: [skepticism.Net] Breast Implant Guestbook Archive > >Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:20:27 -0400 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from [204.250.119.253] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > MHotMailBD2A1B3E009C4004370ECCFA77FDEBE90; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:21:51 -0700 > >Received: from 204.250.119.95 (204.250.119.95) by > mail.macrobyteresources.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0) for > <sonomijohnson@...>; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:21:49 -0400 > >From mercurygirl3@... Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:22:53 -0700 > >X-Mailer: UserLand Frontier 7.0b57 (Windows NT) > >Message-ID: <Conversant-14315@...> > > > >Msg # 260: http://www.skepticism.net/260'>http://www.skepticism.net/260 > >Site Home Page: http://www.skepticism.net/ > > > >---------------------------------- > > > >HI! > > > >I had to write. I am a model/actress who bowed to the pressure of > implants last year. Four months later I've had horrible autoimmune > reactions: rheumatoid arthritis, GI bleeding, fatigue, weakness, swelling > of joints, and the list goes on. In fact, when the doctor was going down > the list of possible side effects because I am in the Mentor study group to > study the safety of silicone implants, I had every symptom out of 18, > except for 3. My life is on hold, I'm in horrendous pain, my existence has > been totally and utterly changed. To all those who say that silicone > implants pose no harm, BULL. Let me further state to you that I was one of > you!!! I believed with all my heart that these implants caused no problem > and all these women all just wanted money or were looking to blame > something for their diseases. I begged for the silicone implants due to > the better " feel " . I finally found a doctor to give them to me. Now, > after a full month in the hospital, IV infusions, immunosuppresants, more > medications than I can tell you, herbs, vitamins, minerals.......it has all > been a waste. I am sick. I am planning on having these removed in 2 > weeks. Oh yes, I am devastated. I feel like my sexuality as a woman will > be hindered. It only came with hitting the absolute bottom before I would > agree to the removal. I should also say that I saw a prominant > rhuematologist who also told me that although the reports say that the > implants don't cause disease, he has seen many patients like myself and > believes there is some correlation that hasn't came to light yet. He told > me in no uncertain terms, get them out! I want to also say, I don't > believe that all women react to the silicone. Many will be fine. But how > do you know if you will be one of the unlucky ones? > > > >I am just hoping that I will be better after the removal. If I could just > say one thing to all those naysayers. Like I said, I was one of the > strongest advocates of the return of silicone to the market! But after > years of being in superb health, running marathons, eating right and doing > everything for my body, I get implants and immediately the sickness is upon > me in months. You might say I could of got this sickness anyway. I have > been tested for genetic markers, none which show propensity for this > disease. My blood counts were great prior, now they are in the trash. I > am a young women who feels like 80. I don't want to go on at times. I > have trouble opening bottles, playing with my child, and doing just about > every other daily activity. > > > >Please, don't assume that you will be one of the lucky ones. The saline > still has silicone shells which may cause an immulogical reaction. For all > those who are happy with their implants, I am also in turn happy for you. > I hope to God for your continued health. But please don't disrespect those > of us (and there are so many) that have gotten ill, by saying it must be > something else. We are very much in tune with our bodies, as you are. > Unfortunately, our systems did not take the implantation as wonderfully as > yours. > > > >Those who are in the same situation, please contact me at > mercurygirl3@.... Thanks again for your postings. Believers, > Please keep fighting for us. > > > >jill > > > >---------------------------------- > >This message copyright © 2001 its author > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank e-mail message to: > >skepticism-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > ̵ÎÁ¥á¡¼¥ë¤Ï¡¢À¤³¦ No.1 ¤Î MSN Hotmail ¤Ç¡ªhttp://www.hotmail.com/JA/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 Sonomi, Look at your new insurance booklet for a clause entitled "Continuation of Benefits". Let me know what size the company is, Number of Employees, and insurance carrier's name. Perhaps I can help! Most sincerely, Martha Murdock, HIA, FLEMI, CEBS NSIF MAM-NSIF@... ----- Original Message ----- From: Patty Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: Re: hopeless Sonomi,I am so sorry to hear about this change of events for you. It is too badthat your surgery did not take place when the old insurance had approved it.Can you use this same information that was used to approve your oldinsurance with your new insurance?You mentioned that you had headaches....have these continued?Please let us know how this turns out for your new insurance coverage.Hopefully they will be willing to approve it, so you can have your explantas scheduled.Thanks for keeping us updated on your situation.Also, thank you for sharing the letter from the woman with the silicone gelimplants. It is interesting that this woman was a part of it the Mentorstudy. I wonder what the future will bring with that, and it makes mecringe to think that they may bring back silicone gel on the market. What atragic mistake that would be.Take care,Patty----- Original Message -----From: "johnson sonomi" <sonomijohnson@...>< >Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 8:56 PMSubject: hopeless> hi patty and justine.> how are you?> i'm ok so far.> my old insurance aprroved my surgery.> did i tell you my husband company told us they change to another insurance> company.in start july.> i had to start all over again.> now i'm waiting what my insurance say.> i recive mail from lady dr's office, she said she need my medical> information.> i feel like hopeless again....> i'm unlucky or what?> my old insurance was aprroved my surgery.> i should have surgery in july 24.> now i had to change to AUG.maybe in SEP...> I'm really wish i never ever have implant in my body...> tommorow i'm going to my clinic ( in this compound) office.> ask Dr copy my medical record.> but that is JAN.> it is old.> also i have headache so i need go to clinic ask dr for medicine few time.> if they have this medical record do you think it is help?> i feel so hopeless again.>> well i recieve e-mail from www.skepticism.net> how do you think about this?>> i hope hear from you soon.> Love> Sonomi>>> >From: Jill <mercurygirl3@...>> >Reply-skepticism-site@...> >sonomijohnson <sonomijohnson@...>> >Subject: RE: [skepticism.Net] Breast Implant Guestbook Archive> >Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:20:27 -0400> >MIME-Version: 1.0> >Received: from [204.250.119.253] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id> MHotMailBD2A1B3E009C4004370ECCFA77FDEBE90; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:21:51 -0700> >Received: from 204.250.119.95 (204.250.119.95) by> mail.macrobyteresources.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0)for> <sonomijohnson@...>; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:21:49 -0400> >From mercurygirl3@... Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:22:53 -0700> >X-Mailer: UserLand Frontier 7.0b57 (Windows NT)> >Message-ID: <Conversant-14315@...>> >> >Msg # 260: http://www.skepticism.net/260> >Site Home Page: http://www.skepticism.net/> >> >----------------------------------> >> >HI!> >> >I had to write. I am a model/actress who bowed to the pressure of> implants last year. Four months later I've had horrible autoimmune> reactions: rheumatoid arthritis, GI bleeding, fatigue, weakness, swelling> of joints, and the list goes on. In fact, when the doctor was going down> the list of possible side effects because I am in the Mentor study groupto> study the safety of silicone implants, I had every symptom out of 18,> except for 3. My life is on hold, I'm in horrendous pain, my existencehas> been totally and utterly changed. To all those who say that silicone> implants pose no harm, BULL. Let me further state to you that I was oneof> you!!! I believed with all my heart that these implants caused no problem> and all these women all just wanted money or were looking to blame> something for their diseases. I begged for the silicone implants due to> the better "feel". I finally found a doctor to give them to me. Now,> after a full month in the hospital, IV infusions, immunosuppresants, more> medications than I can tell you, herbs, vitamins, minerals.......it hasall> been a waste. I am sick. I am planning on having these removed in 2> weeks. Oh yes, I am devastated. I feel like my sexuality as a woman will> be hindered. It only came with hitting the absolute bottom before I would> agree to the removal. I should also say that I saw a prominant> rhuematologist who also told me that although the reports say that the> implants don't cause disease, he has seen many patients like myself and> believes there is some correlation that hasn't came to light yet. He told> me in no uncertain terms, get them out! I want to also say, I don't> believe that all women react to the silicone. Many will be fine. But how> do you know if you will be one of the unlucky ones?> >> >I am just hoping that I will be better after the removal. If I couldjust> say one thing to all those naysayers. Like I said, I was one of the> strongest advocates of the return of silicone to the market! But after> years of being in superb health, running marathons, eating right and doing> everything for my body, I get implants and immediately the sickness isupon> me in months. You might say I could of got this sickness anyway. I have> been tested for genetic markers, none which show propensity for this> disease. My blood counts were great prior, now they are in the trash. I> am a young women who feels like 80. I don't want to go on at times. I> have trouble opening bottles, playing with my child, and doing just about> every other daily activity.> >> >Please, don't assume that you will be one of the lucky ones. The saline> still has silicone shells which may cause an immulogical reaction. Forall> those who are happy with their implants, I am also in turn happy for you.> I hope to God for your continued health. But please don't disrespectthose> of us (and there are so many) that have gotten ill, by saying it must be> something else. We are very much in tune with our bodies, as you are.> Unfortunately, our systems did not take the implantation as wonderfully as> yours.> >> >Those who are in the same situation, please contact me at> mercurygirl3@.... Thanks again for your postings. Believers,> Please keep fighting for us.> >> >jill> >> >----------------------------------> >This message copyright © 2001 its author> >> >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank e-mail message to:> >skepticism-unsubscribe@...> >>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________> $BL5NA%a!<%k$O!"@$3 & (B No.1 $B$N(B MSN Hotmail$B$G!*(Bhttp://www.hotmail.com/JA/>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 Thank you Patty. I send my medical record to the lady in Dr's office yesterday. I'm really hope it will be help. about my headaches yes i have many headaches. i had last headaches was twodays ago. I don't know implant casing this? or my stress? well i'll write to you when i find out. Thabk you Love Sonomi >From: " Patty " <faussettdp@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: hopeless >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:13:27 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [216.115.96.85] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBD2EFD7300B240043713D87360552A1D200; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:18:01 -0700 >Received: from [10.1.4.54] by mu. with NNFMP; 30 Jul 2001 19:16:05 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 30 Jul 2001 19:16:01 -0000 >Received: (qmail 41619 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2001 19:14:46 -0000 >Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8. with QMQP; 30 Jul 2001 19:14:46 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO cpimssmtpu04.email.msn.com) (207.46.181.80) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Jul 2001 19:14:45 -0000 >Received: from patty ([63.24.141.185]) by cpimssmtpu04.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3225); Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:14:26 -0700 >From sentto-2040647-4028-996520562-sonomijohnson Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:18:27 -0700 >X-eGroups-Return: sentto-2040647-4028-996520562-sonomijohnson=hotmail.comreturns (DOT) onelist.com >X-Sender: faussettdp@... >X-Apparently- >Message-ID: <018201c1192b$c4ba0ce0$b360400c@patty> >References: <F126i67EKRuYDlrjbud00008385@...> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2001 19:14:27.0265 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9DF1B10:01C1192B] >Mailing-List: list ; contact -owner >Delivered-mailing list >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribe > > >Sonomi, >I am so sorry to hear about this change of events for you. It is too bad >that your surgery did not take place when the old insurance had approved it. > >Can you use this same information that was used to approve your old >insurance with your new insurance? > >You mentioned that you had headaches....have these continued? > >Please let us know how this turns out for your new insurance coverage. >Hopefully they will be willing to approve it, so you can have your explant >as scheduled. >Thanks for keeping us updated on your situation. > >Also, thank you for sharing the letter from the woman with the silicone gel >implants. It is interesting that this woman was a part of it the Mentor >study. I wonder what the future will bring with that, and it makes me >cringe to think that they may bring back silicone gel on the market. What a >tragic mistake that would be. > >Take care, >Patty >----- Original Message ----- >From: " johnson sonomi " <sonomijohnson@...> >< > >Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 8:56 PM >Subject: hopeless > > > > hi patty and justine. > > how are you? > > i'm ok so far. > > my old insurance aprroved my surgery. > > did i tell you my husband company told us they change to another insurance > > company.in start july. > > i had to start all over again. > > now i'm waiting what my insurance say. > > i recive mail from lady dr's office, she said she need my medical > > information. > > i feel like hopeless again.... > > i'm unlucky or what? > > my old insurance was aprroved my surgery. > > i should have surgery in july 24. > > now i had to change to AUG.maybe in SEP... > > I'm really wish i never ever have implant in my body... > > tommorow i'm going to my clinic ( in this compound) office. > > ask Dr copy my medical record. > > but that is JAN. > > it is old. > > also i have headache so i need go to clinic ask dr for medicine few time. > > if they have this medical record do you think it is help? > > i feel so hopeless again. > > > > well i recieve e-mail from www.skepticism.net > > how do you think about this? > > > > i hope hear from you soon. > > Love > > Sonomi > > > > > > >From: Jill <mercurygirl3@...> > > >Reply-skepticism-site@... > > >sonomijohnson <sonomijohnson@...> > > >Subject: RE: [skepticism.Net] Breast Implant Guestbook Archive > > >Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:20:27 -0400 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >Received: from [204.250.119.253] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > > MHotMailBD2A1B3E009C4004370ECCFA77FDEBE90; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:21:51 -0700 > > >Received: from 204.250.119.95 (204.250.119.95) by > > mail.macrobyteresources.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0) >for > > <sonomijohnson@...>; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:21:49 -0400 > > >From mercurygirl3@... Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:22:53 -0700 > > >X-Mailer: UserLand Frontier 7.0b57 (Windows NT) > > >Message-ID: <Conversant-14315@...> > > > > > >Msg # 260: http://www.skepticism.net/260'>http://www.skepticism.net/260 > > >Site Home Page: http://www.skepticism.net/ > > > > > >---------------------------------- > > > > > >HI! > > > > > >I had to write. I am a model/actress who bowed to the pressure of > > implants last year. Four months later I've had horrible autoimmune > > reactions: rheumatoid arthritis, GI bleeding, fatigue, weakness, swelling > > of joints, and the list goes on. In fact, when the doctor was going down > > the list of possible side effects because I am in the Mentor study group >to > > study the safety of silicone implants, I had every symptom out of 18, > > except for 3. My life is on hold, I'm in horrendous pain, my existence >has > > been totally and utterly changed. To all those who say that silicone > > implants pose no harm, BULL. Let me further state to you that I was one >of > > you!!! I believed with all my heart that these implants caused no problem > > and all these women all just wanted money or were looking to blame > > something for their diseases. I begged for the silicone implants due to > > the better " feel " . I finally found a doctor to give them to me. Now, > > after a full month in the hospital, IV infusions, immunosuppresants, more > > medications than I can tell you, herbs, vitamins, minerals.......it has >all > > been a waste. I am sick. I am planning on having these removed in 2 > > weeks. Oh yes, I am devastated. I feel like my sexuality as a woman will > > be hindered. It only came with hitting the absolute bottom before I would > > agree to the removal. I should also say that I saw a prominant > > rhuematologist who also told me that although the reports say that the > > implants don't cause disease, he has seen many patients like myself and > > believes there is some correlation that hasn't came to light yet. He told > > me in no uncertain terms, get them out! I want to also say, I don't > > believe that all women react to the silicone. Many will be fine. But how > > do you know if you will be one of the unlucky ones? > > > > > >I am just hoping that I will be better after the removal. If I could >just > > say one thing to all those naysayers. Like I said, I was one of the > > strongest advocates of the return of silicone to the market! But after > > years of being in superb health, running marathons, eating right and doing > > everything for my body, I get implants and immediately the sickness is >upon > > me in months. You might say I could of got this sickness anyway. I have > > been tested for genetic markers, none which show propensity for this > > disease. My blood counts were great prior, now they are in the trash. I > > am a young women who feels like 80. I don't want to go on at times. I > > have trouble opening bottles, playing with my child, and doing just about > > every other daily activity. > > > > > >Please, don't assume that you will be one of the lucky ones. The saline > > still has silicone shells which may cause an immulogical reaction. For >all > > those who are happy with their implants, I am also in turn happy for you. > > I hope to God for your continued health. But please don't disrespect >those > > of us (and there are so many) that have gotten ill, by saying it must be > > something else. We are very much in tune with our bodies, as you are. > > Unfortunately, our systems did not take the implantation as wonderfully as > > yours. > > > > > >Those who are in the same situation, please contact me at > > mercurygirl3@.... Thanks again for your postings. Believers, > > Please keep fighting for us. > > > > > >jill > > > > > >---------------------------------- > > >This message copyright © 2001 its author > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank e-mail message to: > > >skepticism-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > ̵ÎÁ¥á¡¼¥ë¤Ï¡¢À¤³¦ No.1 ¤Î MSN Hotmail >¤Ç¡ªhttp://www.hotmail.com/JA/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2001 Report Share Posted August 1, 2001 > Thank you Patty. > I send my medical record to the lady in Dr's office yesterday. > I'm really hope it will be help. > about my headaches yes i have many headaches. > i had last headaches was twodays ago. > I don't know implant casing this? or my stress? Yes, and yes....both can cause your headaches. But implants may be causing the stress in your body in the first place (stressing the endocrine system), so in the end, it can be traced back to the implants regardless. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 > > I feel hopeless tonite. I learned I had candida in June after suffering for 10years. However it has been such a battle for me. I keep modifying my diet as I learn things. I try so hard. I fail at times. The holidays are hard. I just want to eat what everyone else is. I dont want to have to think about all this. I am tired of it. For the past 3 yrs they told me I was gluten and dairy sensitive. I have had no gluten or dairy in 3 yrs. They were totally wrong. It was candida. I want to have children some day. I know now is not the time. However I am in my late 30s. That bothers me.Tomorrow doesnt always come for everyone. I lost my first husband to cancer 6 years ago. > > I have this because I got mono years ago and had strong antibotics. I had a reaction then but it went away. I thought I was fine. I am mad at the drs. How can they prescribe antibotics and never recommend probiotics. It makes no sense to me. > > I resigned from my job because I could not do it anymore being sick all the time. I had a good job. Now I make a third of what I was. That has made me miserable. > > All of this is so unfair. I didnt deserve this. None of us did. +++Hi there. What is your name please? My heart goes out to you my dear. Been there, done that! Of course life isn't always fair to good people like you and me. That's why it is so important to take charge of your own health and life! By the way, don't believe that you can't have children after a certain age, since it is not true. They always talk about the " tired egg syndrome " but never about a " tired sperm syndrome " due to aging - but of course most doctors are male who came up with that false idea. Dr. Mendelsohn, M.D. writes about this in his book " Confessions of a Medical Heretic " (heretic means anyone who does not conform to an established attitude, doctrine, or principle), in other words Dr. Mendelsohn was totally against medicine as it was practiced in his day, the 1970s. He writes: " When I was in medical school, I was taught that women should not have babies if they're older than forty-five. By the time I was an intern, it was down to forty. When I was a resident, thirty-either. Ten years ago (about 1969) it was down to thirty-five. " " Actually, age has nothing to do with whether a mother gives birth to a deformed baby. " We know it is very important that both parents be healthy in order to conceive a healthy child, as Dr. Weston A. Price wrote about in detail in his book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. Babies acquire their parent's " nutritional status " upon conception. So hang in there and keep doing this program! As for many others it is your " hope " of leading a better life that is healthy and happy. When you get down and discouraged read some of the wonderful Success Stories: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php Lotsa healing hugs, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Dear Hopeless, I'm sorry to hear you are having such a rough time with life right now ... but, I promise you, " this too shall pass " . I understand your concerns about getting older and having children as I'm 42, soon turning 43, and haven't had children as of yet. On the upside, I am grateful for having found Bee's program as my goal is to get my body as healthy as possible " before " getting pregnant and having children as I've suffered from candida since I was approximately 18 years old. My mother had me at 43 so I figure if she can do it, so can I. So, my game plan, stick with the program for the next two years, get healthy and when I'm 45, work on getting pregnant (if I'm involved with someone by then) and if that doesn't happen, then I'll adopt even if I'm still single. So, if I can do it (or imagine doing it), then so can you!!! It's the power of positive thinking! Please hang in there and try to find the bright side to all of this. Think about how fortunate all of us are to have found Bee and to tackle our symptoms/problems before something very serious happened to our bodies! Other people continue to eat poorly and to walk around with candida never knowing what's causing their health problems until sadly, in some cases, it will be too late. We can now start living a healthier, happier life free from illness. As for wanting to eat what everyone else eats, well, I like to think about this whole candida thing as a " life style shift " . I never refer to my new eating habits/patterns as a " diet " but rather, term it as a healthy " life style shift " . It seems to help me deal with it better from a psychological perspective. Maybe, the same will work for you. Just take it one day at a time as you will go through up days and down days, days of doubt, days of confusion but those days will become less and less as they are replaced by healthier, happier days. And, most of all, remember that you still have time to become a mother. Get your body healthy now so you don't pass your symptoms onto your unborn child. It's the greatest gift a mom can give a child! Hang in there! Happy Holidays! Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 That was beautiful, Nikki. I am printing that out to read over and over again. Shalom, a Dear Hopeless, I'm sorry to hear you are having such a rough time with life right now ... but, I promise you, " this too shall pass " . I understand your concerns about getting older and having children as I'm 42, soon turning 43, and haven't had children as of yet. On the upside, I am grateful for having found Bee's program as my goal is to get my body as healthy as possible " before " getting pregnant and having children as I've suffered from candida since I was approximately 18 years old. My mother had me at 43 so I figure if she can do it, so can I. So, my game plan, stick with the program for the next two years, get healthy and when I'm 45, work on getting pregnant (if I'm involved with someone by then) and if that doesn't happen, then I'll adopt even if I'm still single. So, if I can do it (or imagine doing it), then so can you!!! It's the power of positive thinking! Please hang in there and try to find the bright side to all of this. Think about how fortunate all of us are to have found Bee and to tackle our symptoms/problems before something very serious happened to our bodies! Other people continue to eat poorly and to walk around with candida never knowing what's causing their health problems until sadly, in some cases, it will be too late. We can now start living a healthier, happier life free from illness. As for wanting to eat what everyone else eats, well, I like to think about this whole candida thing as a " life style shift " . I never refer to my new eating habits/patterns as a " diet " but rather, term it as a healthy " life style shift " . It seems to help me deal with it better from a psychological perspective. Maybe, the same will work for you. Just take it one day at a time as you will go through up days and down days, days of doubt, days of confusion but those days will become less and less as they are replaced by healthier, happier days. And, most of all, remember that you still have time to become a mother. Get your body healthy now so you don't pass your symptoms onto your unborn child. It's the greatest gift a mom can give a child! Hang in there! Happy Holidays! Nikki > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I just wanted wanted to concur with Bee about age and having babies. I had my last two children in my forties. I had one boy at 42 years old. He is eight now and is the brightest of my children. I really concentrated on the cod liver oil and good fats when I was pregnant with him and in his diet when he was born. I didn't know of Bee's diet then but was doing the Weston Price type diet. I had my last at 46 and he Is a very healthy three year old now. Incidentally, I have had eight full term pregnancies and these two boys, born in my forties were my best pregnancies and labors! After being on Bee's diet you will have very healthy, bright children. I am convinced of that. Shari -- [ ] Re: hopeless --- Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 hi i had my second baby on bees diet and labour went really well, despite me still having a bad candida problem. he is also very bright. third pregnancy and labour went well too. the midwives said it was just like a text book labour, perfect. my daugher is also very bright and strong joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 ---- Ilove <ilove_hawaii@...> wrote: > I feel hopeless tonite. Tomorrow doesnt always come for everyone. I lost my first husband to cancer 6 years ago. > > I have this because I got mono years ago and had strong antibotics. I had a reaction then but it went away. I thought I was fine. > > I resigned from my job because I could not do it anymore being sick all the time. I had a good job. Now I make a third of what I was. That has made me miserable. > > All of this is so unfair. I didnt deserve this. None of us did. Hello, Nothing happens in God's universe by mistake. In August 1995 I lost my job. Two months later my partner went into intensive care with pneumonia and AIDS (this was before the new drugs). He was going to die. I lost my home in December and moved back in with my parents. My father was having a series of devastating strokes and died the following August. I had to care for him for nine months in a hospital bed. You will go to the bottom and despair. And then life will begin again and you will continue as a new a different person. Trust. Believe. Keep trying. Roy T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Dear Hopeless, My heart goes out to you right now. I sometimes feel the same despair and feelings of it not being fair to suffer like we do. Why can't we eat what everyone else is eating and be okay? And what I've realized is that no one can eat junk food and be okay. The difference between us and them is simply that they haven't gotten sick enough to know yet. I've learned so much about the body's needs since being diagnosed in 2007. Though it is not fun to completely change ones lifestyle, in the end we'll be much better off because we now know what foods heal us and what foods will destroy us. It has not been really easy this holiday season. And I chose to get back on the diet on December 1st knowing what I was in for with Christmas right around the corner. But, I know my health is more important than a cookie. And I needed to reclaim the health I claimed back in 2007. You're very smart to wait until you're healed to have children. I didn't know about my Candida with my first two children and my third baby was a surprise. I was very sick with Candida with all three pregnancies and now all three of my children are also suffering with an overgrowth. Waiting until you're healthy is such an unselfish and beautiful gift for your future children. It isn't easy... but our bodies are going to thank us with perfect health and vitality and long life and fullness of life... that is worth so much more than eating what " everyone " eats. HUGS! Janelle > > > > I feel hopeless tonite. I learned I had candida in June after suffering for 10years. However it has been such a battle for me. I keep modifying my diet as I learn things. I try so hard. I fail at times. The holidays are hard. I just want to eat what everyone else is. I dont want to have to think about all this. I am tired of it. For the past 3 yrs they told me I was gluten and dairy sensitive. I have had no gluten or dairy in 3 yrs. They were totally wrong. It was candida. I want to have children some day. I know now is not the time. However I am in my late 30s. That bothers me.Tomorrow doesnt always come for everyone. I lost my first husband to cancer 6 years ago. > > > > I have this because I got mono years ago and had strong antibotics. I had a reaction then but it went away. I thought I was fine. I am mad at the drs. How can they prescribe antibotics and never recommend probiotics. It makes no sense to me. > > > > I resigned from my job because I could not do it anymore being sick all the time. I had a good job. Now I make a third of what I was. That has made me miserable. > > > > All of this is so unfair. I didnt deserve this. None of us did. > > +++Hi there. What is your name please? My heart goes out to you my dear. Been there, done that! Of course life isn't always fair to good people like you and me. That's why it is so important to take charge of your own health and life! > > By the way, don't believe that you can't have children after a certain age, since it is not true. They always talk about the " tired egg syndrome " but never about a " tired sperm syndrome " due to aging - but of course most doctors are male who came up with that false idea. > > Dr. Mendelsohn, M.D. writes about this in his book " Confessions of a Medical Heretic " (heretic means anyone who does not conform to an established attitude, doctrine, or principle), in other words Dr. Mendelsohn was totally against medicine as it was practiced in his day, the 1970s. > > He writes: " When I was in medical school, I was taught that women should not have babies if they're older than forty-five. By the time I was an intern, it was down to forty. When I was a resident, thirty-either. Ten years ago (about 1969) it was down to thirty-five. " > > " Actually, age has nothing to do with whether a mother gives birth to a deformed baby. " > > We know it is very important that both parents be healthy in order to conceive a healthy child, as Dr. Weston A. Price wrote about in detail in his book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. Babies acquire their parent's " nutritional status " upon conception. > > So hang in there and keep doing this program! As for many others it is your " hope " of leading a better life that is healthy and happy. > > When you get down and discouraged read some of the wonderful Success Stories: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php > > Lotsa healing hugs, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Thank you, Janelle, for posting this. Right now I'm feeling very hard done by and " over it " (after being on the diet a whole three weeks LOL) but every time I feel sad I will remember that line - that NO ONE can eat junk food and be okay. That is so true. Maybe for 5, 10 years, but for the majority of us it will catch up. I also wish I'd known all this before I'd produced my two children. I look back at the state my body was probably in when I conceived (years of the pill, stress, bad diet, antibiotics, general body abuse) and am painfully aware of why they have the issues they do now. I feel so guilty and angry at myself I we could turn back time eh? But I am grateful that I know now. Knowledge definately is power Thanks again! Keri My heart goes out to you right now. I sometimes feel the same despair and feelings of it not being fair to suffer like we do. Why can't we eat what everyone else is eating and be okay? And what I've realized is that no one can eat junk food and be okay. The difference between us and them is simply that they haven't gotten sick enough to know yet. I've learned so much about the body's needs since being diagnosed in 2007. Though it is not fun to completely change ones lifestyle, in the end we'll be much better off because we now know what foods heal us and what foods will destroy us. It has not been really easy this holiday season. And I chose to get back on the diet on December 1st knowing what I was in for with Christmas right around the corner. But, I know my health is more important than a cookie. And I needed to reclaim the health I claimed back in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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