Guest guest Posted August 2, 2001 Report Share Posted August 2, 2001 Caren, I posted information previously about anti-virals. You can look at messages number 2424, 2440, and 2441 in the archives. For your benefit,I will repost number 2440 here now: From: "Patty" <faussettdp@...>Date: Fri Mar 9, 2001 10:00 amSubject: On antivirals... Some of you may want to do your own research on the anti-viral properties of some supplements, so I won't hold you with my pace of research. Yesterday I posted about the wonderful properties of garlic, and next, I will be looking into Grapefruit seed extract. However, for those of you who want to look into this further on your own, here is the list of anti-viral supplements that we can incorporate into our daily health program, in our efforts to heal our bodies. Remember the reasoning behind this....because of the belief that parasites, candidiasis, viruses and other infections perpetute and deepen immune system dysfunction by further taxing an already overloaded system, thanks to our implants. It is the age old question of which came first, the chicken or the egg? Was it the implants that taxed our already overloaded system (and was the straw that broke the camels back), or was it the toxins accumulating after we got our implants that broke the camel's back? Either way, we have to get rid of the things that are causing the overload--the implants, the viruses, the parasites, the candida, and bacterial pathogens. Check these out if you are interested: Olive Leaf Extract Echinacea Goldenseal Citrus Seed Extract (including grapefruit seed extract) Aloe Vera Tea Tree Oil Pau d'arco Coconut Oil Quercetin Astragalus Licorice Noni Extract of Shiitake mushrooms, called LEM (Lentinus edodes mycelium), other medicinal mushrooms are maitake and reishi) By the way, since I have been taking lots more herbs, I have been feeling really good. Patty As for the hyperbaric chamber, I have also done this. I had a total of 22 treatments. I cannot say that it made a huge difference for me. However, I do know that has healed herself and her children by using regular hyperbaric treatments. She bought her own chamber and now runs a clinic (she is certified). There are many cases where hyperbarics will be invaluable, but then again, there may be cases where you won't notice the effects. It drives oxygen down deep into the cellular levels, where it may not go under normal atmospheric pressure, and for some, this is critical. (Those who suffer from hypoxia.) It did not get rid of my brain fog, and that was the main reason I went. It may have helped me in ways that I could not measure or comprehend, but I guess I will never know. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: jay igert Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: herbs what other herbs beside olive leaf extract help with viral infections? does anyone know about a hyperbaric chamber and if they really work? Caren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Please be aware that some few herbs can be terribly dangerous. About two years? ago, there were several cases of severe liver damage and a couple cases of complete liver failure reported from the use of some herbs. Everyone knows that, say, fox glove and belladonna and oleander can be deadly poisons, fairly quickly in relatively small doses. Other herbs can cause more insidious damage. Even vitamin overdoses can cause severe harm. The liver is particularly vulnerable to certain herbs and vitamin overdose. Some herbs good, some not. Be careful, check out each one. H. In a message dated 5/2/08 12:32:20 PM, beagarth@... writes: Another note--I have used herbs for years. Basically they saved my life. I do not buy the seeming AMA wisdom that they are just a bunch of old wives tales or somehow intrinsically dangerous. I think it is unfortunate that the AMA really has had so little interest in herbs for instance except to debunk them. I think with study and application one can figure out what works for a person especially if one is observant. My rule of thumb is that we are all different and need to pay attention to our bodies as to what is or is not going on. However there is also enough similarity that we can learn from each other. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Most likely, your doctor asks for a list of medications each time you visit. That list should include any supplements, herbs, teas, etc. H.**************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Similarly, amounts and combinations matter. Re amounts, I've recently cut back on the fish oil I've been taking because it has a blood thinning effect and has contributed to excessive bruising. When I'm about to have a medical procedure, I now stop taking it entirely. More doesn't always equal better. Sharon Wood > > Please be aware that some few herbs can be terribly dangerous. About two > years? ago, there were several cases of severe liver damage and a couple cases of > complete liver failure reported from the use of some herbs. > > Everyone knows that, say, fox glove and belladonna and oleander can be deadly > poisons, fairly quickly in relatively small doses. Other herbs can cause more > insidious damage. Even vitamin overdoses can cause severe harm. The liver is > particularly vulnerable to certain herbs and vitamin overdose. > > Some herbs good, some not. Be careful, check out each one. > > H. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 I would never disagree with that. Herbs should be used with knowledge and care and should always be checked out. Powerful, dangerous herbs should be avoided. And yes even vitamins should not be taken in excess--though, if one has malabsorption, more may be needed than for other people. As one gets better however less then is needed. Herbs and vitamins can be powerful substances. However overall, used with judicious care, they seem safer than many other remedies since they often actually help the body heal itself rather than just cover up the symptoms.Unfortunately not enough modern day research has been done on herbs although they have been used by mankind since before the dawn of time. Fortunately, even so, now more is known than forty years ago when I first started using them. There are books out there now that delineate what herbs adversely affect what conditions and react with what pharmaceutical drugs. I often look at Phyllis Balch's Prescription for Herbal Healing for instance.The fibronylitic enzymes I mentioned for instance should not be taken if you easily bleed too much or if you take blood thinners like coumadin. Even garlic or eating lots of greens is questionable for that actually. Nevertheless, back in the 80's the info. I got from Hoffman's Holistic Herbal was excellent and even what I gleaned in the 70's from Jeanne Rose and Euell Gibbons helped save my life--though I didn't know back then that I shouldn't use aluminum to cook with. Beaflatcat9@... wrote: Please be aware that some few herbs can be terribly dangerous. About two years? ago, there were several cases of severe liver damage and a couple cases of complete liver failure reported from the use of some herbs. Everyone knows that, say, fox glove and belladonna and oleander can be deadly poisons, fairly quickly in relatively small doses. Other herbs can cause more insidious damage. Even vitamin overdoses can cause severe harm. The liver is particularly vulnerable to certain herbs and vitamin overdose. Some herbs good, some not. Be careful, check out each one. H. In a message dated 5/2/08 12:32:20 PM, beagarth writes: Another note--I have used herbs for years. Basically they saved my life. I do not buy the seeming AMA wisdom that they are just a bunch of old wives tales or somehow intrinsically dangerous. I think it is unfortunate that the AMA really has had so little interest in herbs for instance except to debunk them. I think with study and application one can figure out what works for a person especially if one is observant. My rule of thumb is that we are all different and need to pay attention to our bodies as to what is or is not going on. However there is also enough similarity that we can learn from each other. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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