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How did Drea handle the increase of MTX last night?? Hopefully it

didnt increase the tummy issues.

I have held Nicks MTX this week because of the elevated ALT's. We will

see what the rheumy says.

hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

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The increase didn't go very well at all. She immediately felt

nauseated afterwards and the entire next day she was exhausted,

headache, stomach upset...By evening 24 hours post injection she was

crying and in out of the bathroom with stomach cramps, loose stools

and nausea. I gave her another dose of phenegran thinking that it may

help. She said her body just felt so strange and out of sorts. She

eventually feel asleep and I stayed in her room on the futon...I let

her sleep in this morning and my grandfather stayed with her..I am

hoping that when she wakes up she will be feeling better.

I hope that Nick does ok with the skipped mtx and that his alt's go

back down...let me know what the rheumy has to say.

sonia (aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

>

> How did Drea handle the increase of MTX last night?? Hopefully it

> didnt increase the tummy issues.

>

> I have held Nicks MTX this week because of the elevated ALT's. We

will

> see what the rheumy says.

>

> hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

>

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Sorry to hear that it did not go too well with the increase. Since I have

absolutely no knowlede of how Mtx works I am just baffled for you. I feel for

you I really do. This is a tough time for you and Aundrea. Will keep you both in

our prayers. How is today?

Veri

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The increase didn't go very well at all. She immediately felt

nauseated afterwards and the entire next day she was exhausted,

headache, stomach upset...By evening 24 hours post injection she was

crying and in out of the bathroom with stomach cramps, loose stools

and nausea. I gave her another dose of phenegran thinking that it may

help. She said her body just felt so strange and out of sorts. She

eventually feel asleep and I stayed in her room on the futon...I let

her sleep in this morning and my grandfather stayed with her..I am

hoping that when she wakes up she will be feeling better.

I hope that Nick does ok with the skipped mtx and that his alt's go

back down...let me know what the rheumy has to say.

sonia (aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

>

> How did Drea handle the increase of MTX last night?? Hopefully it

> didnt increase the tummy issues.

>

> I have held Nicks MTX this week because of the elevated ALT's. We

will

> see what the rheumy says.

>

> hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

>

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Thanks Veri,

Drea started doing better by afternoon. So about 36 hours of

troubles post injection...Maybe I will just try to give her more

phenegren next time.

did good today..at least I think he did. He stayed at school

all day and I haven't seen him yet..he is suppose to call shortly

for me to go pick him up...He stayed to watch the basketball try-out

practice...I hope he just " watched " !

sonia (drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)-

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> ,

>

> Sorry to hear that it did not go too well with the increase. Since

I have absolutely no knowlede of how Mtx works I am just baffled for

you. I feel for you I really do. This is a tough time for you and

Aundrea. Will keep you both in our prayers. How is today?

>

> Veri

>

>

> Re: ,

>

>

> The increase didn't go very well at all. She immediately felt

> nauseated afterwards and the entire next day she was exhausted,

> headache, stomach upset...By evening 24 hours post injection she

was

> crying and in out of the bathroom with stomach cramps, loose

stools

> and nausea. I gave her another dose of phenegran thinking that it

may

> help. She said her body just felt so strange and out of sorts. She

> eventually feel asleep and I stayed in her room on the futon...I

let

> her sleep in this morning and my grandfather stayed with her..I am

> hoping that when she wakes up she will be feeling better.

>

> I hope that Nick does ok with the skipped mtx and that his alt's

go

> back down...let me know what the rheumy has to say.

>

> sonia (aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

>

>

> >

> > How did Drea handle the increase of MTX last night?? Hopefully

it

> > didnt increase the tummy issues.

> >

> > I have held Nicks MTX this week because of the elevated ALT's.

We

> will

> > see what the rheumy says.

> >

> > hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

> >

>

>

>

>

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Hi Helen,

I've been thinking of you and wondering how things have gone at the

school since the incident last week with Nick.

Aundrea had a great day monday and tuesday. This morning she called

me when she woke up and said her knees were both killing her. She

went and soaked in a hot bath and by 11:00 the pain was starting to

slowly ease off. She stayed home from school and by mid-afternoon

the pain was minimal and by evening she was active and feeling good.

My husband decided to bring her to the office and take x-rays of her

himself. He shot films of her feet, knees and hands.

we decided to schedule an appt with the rheumy that has been seeing

her for the past 2 years.(he has dx. her systemic)Similar to what you

said he was less concerned about her lable of type of arthritis and

more concerned with how she responded to treatment. We will show him

the films, discuss what the other doc has to say (admittedly the

other doc wasn't changing meds yet...getting labs, x-rays, derm visit

and then discussing things in 8 weeks).

The one thing that I really like with our current rheumy is that I

feel a 'trust' relationship with him. He is conservative and he

encourages his patients to utilize supplements, yoga, water therapy

etc in addition to needed meds. I have found that because of this

when he does say he thinks its time to start a med or increase it my

husband and I are both agreeable. We know he doesn't rush to

decisions and so when he is ready to make a move then I guess we are

too.

So, it should be interesting. We will see him on Friday. I doubt

that he will have the report from the other rheumy but i will fill

him in on where were at and see what his thoughts are...

The one big difference is that our current rheumy seemed to take a

much longer time getting a detailed history on Aundrea. for a first

time visit with the new pedi rheumy it felt very short and not super

thorough...perhaps its because they worked us in and didn't have much

time???

So, I'll let u know more Friday! :-) Never give up right!

(Aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd0

>

> Sorry this is such a late reply.

>

> I am sorry that the meeting with the new ped rheumy was not more

> productive. I was hoping for more action, given how much school and

> how awful Drea is feeling a LOT of the time.

>

> I guess my concern is, it doesnt matter " what " its name is that she

> has going on. The medications given for most of the JRA's that all

> the kids have are the same. These medications have a history of

> helping her. I know pred will help almost anyone, but seeing how

she

> has partially responded to the MTX makes you wonder how it could be

> a " mechanical " problem.

>

> I know you dont like giving meds when you dont really know whats

> exactly going on, but I would go with your gut. Does it matter the

> name of what she has, if one of the meds is going to help her. At

the

> end of the day, helping Drea feel better has to be the priority,

not

> naming what she has. I would be very instatant at your next appt

that

> you at least try one of the biologics and see if that helps. if it

> doesnt, then stop, but think how changed Drea can be if it does

help

> her.

>

> Nick has hypermobility in a lot of his joints. Doesnt mean he

doesnt

> have arthritis too, it just means it takes a LOT more swelling

until

> he losses range of motion, he still has a lot of stiffness in the

> morning and ALSO at other times of the day.

>

> I hope you get some answers soon, I know how frustated you and Drea

> must be.

> I hope your next appt is a lot more productive.

>

> hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

>

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