's IEP

March 18, 2001

HI Sharon

Try these web sites, full of ideas

Kathy mom to Sara 9

<A HREF= " http://www.theschoolbell.com/Links/Dolch/Dolch.html " >The Dolch Words

</A> this one has words you may want to add for spelling or reading

IEP4u objectives</A> Objective ideas

Special Education Goals and Objectives</A> Objective ideas

March 19, 2001

Sharon - I wouldn't give up on the math just yet....... Even though Jimmy

started using touch math in first grade, he didn't REALLY " get it " until just

this year in third grade. He very quickly went from needing lots of

assistance and prompting with it to doing worksheets of 30 problems

independently (and correctly, I might add!!!!). He is now also doing

addition of two digit numbers (that don't require regrouping) and also

single-digit subtraction.

Our plan is to introduce the calculator next year.

Incidentally, we are going to do the same thing with writing. His

handwriting was always indecipherable until this year. We are introducing

writing with the keyboard next year, too. (He's starting on basic

keyboarding skills this year - learning where the letters are, etc.)

IMHO, it's important to at least understand the rudimentary framework of what

you're learning before you move on to the mechanical assists. Of course, I

realize that may not be possible for all kids. But I wouldn't give up on the

math just yet.

Good luck!

March 19, 2001

Sharon,

I did write about using a calculator for math recently. My daughter has

always struggled with math. she's in 4th now and believe it or not doing a

little multiplication. But I definately think the calculator is fine. In

the math program I teach, a calculator is part of the program from 1st grade

up. It is one more manipulative for to use, so why not??? I am

grateful to calculators because if amanda never really learns math, she will

definately know how to add and subtract with the help of a calcultor.

I have stopped beating myself up about math; she does what she can and what

she can't- oh well!!!!!

March 19, 2001

In a message dated 3/19/01 8:33:06 AM Central Standard Time,

lauralk38@... writes:

> IMHO, it's important to at least understand the rudimentary framework of

> what

> you're learning before you move on to the mechanical assists. Of course, I

> realize that may not be possible for all kids. But I wouldn't give up on

> the

> math just yet.

>

> Good luck!

>

> I agree, , if the child doesn't know when to add, subtract, etc. the

> calculator isn't going to do much good. There has to be some concept of

> what they are doing. Jessie

>

March 20, 2001

used a calculator just recently when we had worked for years and

years and he just couldn't get adding and subtracting the larger numbers.

He can still do the small ones but he is 14 now and needs to be working on

independence skills. I say stick to the basics while they're young and if

they don't get it, then go to plan B. MHO

Elaine

's IEP

> Hi Everyone-

>

> 's IEP is in 10 days. She will be moving into the

> third grade. I am going into the classroom this week to

> observe her 3rd grade regular teacher's class,

> structure, teaching, etc..

> I have some ideas for her IEP goals. She will start on

> Part II of Edmark, and her math goals will be very

> basic.

> I wanted to ask a couple of questions about math.

> isn't grasping addition very well. I am not sure what

> the block is. Another mom asked if she was using a

> calculator, and I said no. Has anyone out there let

> their child go on to a calculator before they really

> understood the basics of addition and subtraction? Part

> of me says lets do it, and the other says lets wait.

> Her spec. ed. teacher really wants to concentrate on

> money; identification, assigning of coin and dollar

> value. Anyone with experience with this?

> Also, a while back someone had posted a web site with

> lots of different IEP goals for different age levels and

> different achievement levels. Does anyone remember what

> that site might be?

>

> As always, thanks for your help and support!

>

> --

> Sharon, Mom to (9, DS) and (5)

>

March 15, 2003

In a message dated 3/15/03 8:48:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, huie@...

writes:

> She can't (or most probably won't) do either at home. Reminds me of the

> time she would eat Cheerios at my aunt's house, but refused to touch them

> at Nana's house or at home.

>

I have to laugh at this. My son would only eat bagels with cream cheese at

home and with cinnamon and sugar at daycare. He would NEVER eat either at the

other place. oh well. We all have our quirks.

Jean

March 15, 2003

" Knock me over with a feather " lol! that is too funny. I am so happy for

your family and . I am glad you are pleased with her placement. Having

a great caring teacher is a wonderful thing. Way to go on all of your

accomplishments!!!!

>From: " Sharon " <huie@...>

>< >

>Subject: 's IEP

>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:46:19 -0500

>

>We held 's IEP yesterday. Her sped teacher, ST, OT, counselor and

>asst. principal were there. No psychologist (one wasn't asked, I think my

>opinion of the one that did 's testing is apparent). And of course,

>Mike and I. It lasted 50 minutes. We got everything we wanted. Her

>placement will stay the same, which for at the present time is okay..

>She will go to special areas again with the reg. ed. class. Special areas

>here include (special areas are a 7 week rotation that repeats continuously

>during the year) 2 weeks of PE, 2 weeks of art, 1 week library, 1 week

>guidance, and 1 week music. One of the 2 art teachers does not get along

>with , don't know why, and frankly I am not wasting my time finding

>out why, she will go both weeks to the art teacher she likes. We agreed on

>all goals and short term objectives. will also go to the reg ed

>classes for science and ss on a subject basis, so depending on what and how

>they are studying a subject, she will join them. The counselor loved the

>idea of the circle of friends, and we will work together to develop one for

>.

>

>We also reviewed 's latest math tests. She made 100% on coin

>recognition and counting, and telling time to the hour and half-hour.

>Could have knocked me over with a feather. She can't (or most probably

>won't) do either at home. Reminds me of the time she would eat Cheerios at

>my aunt's house, but refused to touch them at Nana's house or at home.

>

>Anyway, it is amazing the difference the right teacher makes. I mean, you

>know it intellectually, that the right teacher can and will make a

>difference, but seeing it actually happen is wonderful.

>

>Sharon

>Mom to , (11, DS) and , (7)

>Pawleys Island, South Carolina

>

April 11, 2003

Elaine,

I believe that if the services are not being given at school, you can

contract out through a bd of ed provider. is currently not receiving

PT at school and they sent me forms to complete to get a provider on the

outside, but the bd (or dept) of ed would pay. Honestly, it is too much

effort on mine and amanda's part to contract out and I got so many other

things this year, that I am not going through the hassle of it.

Speaking of getting things, her speech teacher suggested to try and get her

an Alpha Smart computer for her to do her work, well she was evaluated and

they gave her one on the spot! It is so light weight and like the size of a

lunch box. it goes to and from school every day and her printer is hooked up

in the speech teacher's room and she can go there any time and print out her

work.

BTW, good news about 's IEP - budget cuts rampant all over - UGH!

~ Mom to 12 DS and Diabetes Type 1 and 8 NY

April 11, 2003

Maverick gets private speech therapy through our state DDD. He gets it at

school also which we consider pretty useless. But then he also gets an hour a

week with a private therapist at home. She is the one who evaluated Maverick

and determined his need for the aug com.

We have now recieved it and our challenge is to get the school to recognize

it as his VOICE.

Check with your state dept for the sp needs department.

April 30, 2004

In a message dated 5/1/2004 1:05:33 AM Central Standard Time, huie@...

writes:

> The psychologist actually offered that as an

> option before I could say anything (actually, I hate it when they do

> that, sort of disappointing when you were expecting some resistence

> to your idea, and had planned what you wanted to say).

Sharon,

Don't you just hate, when you have your speech all prepared, and they agree

without an argument? Just kidding, but it does kind of take away your

momentum. Congratulations on getting all the things you wanted. What grade

will

be in. Zack is 11, will be 12 this summer, and going into middle school

next year. Scary! I asked his classmates if they were worried about going to

middle school, and they said they were scared for Zack. They didn't want anyone

to hurt him. One boy said his mom gave him permission to fight, if he was

defending Zack. I told him that I didn't think that would be necessary. But, I

was happy to see the kids were already thinking ahead. We also want to start

a " Circle of Friends " next year. No word on when our IEP is, and we did the

3 year testing. They think they can cover everything in an hour! Ha! I've

never seen testing results and an IEP done in one hour!

Congrats, again! Sounds like has a great advocate in her mom!

Sue - mom to Zack, 11, DS, 2 ASDs, VSD, Bad Mitral Valve; Matt, 10, 's

Anamoly, Cataracts, Glaucoma, PDD, PFO, hearing loss; , (4/20/96 -

12/31/00), DS, g-tube, TOF; Sami, born 11/16/2002, sensory dysfunction and

possible

autism, the most spoiled princess

DisLabeled Writing - finally updated about 's death and Sami's adoption

's Memorial Page

's Candle Shrine

May 1, 2004

In a message dated 4/30/2004 11:24:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

zmadad@... writes:

> Zack is 11, will be 12 this summer, and going into middle school

> next year.

We went into middle school this past year. I was SO Frightened, and it

wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. We do have some safeguards in

effect due to some issues that happened with my friends son when he was in the

Jr.

High. He is not in PE since that would mean being in the locker room, (and

even with an aide somehow the aide was never in there when he should have

been?!) And he uses the staff restroom. Never in the boys restroom.

Those are the issues that frighten me most of all. I figure, there are 5

schools feeding into this Jr. High, so 1/5th of the kids have been with him all

along and they will be there to stand up for him when need be.

Also, lunchtime was a concern, (unstructured time and Mav tends to get into

trouble....NO! Not MY little angel!).... anyway, they have several small

groups that meet.....and he chose to go to the No Bullys Club. He would take

his

lunch to a classroom and there were about 15 other kids....one with sp needs,

who hung out there and played board games and talked.

Our goal for Jr. High is to get him through it safely. If he gets academics,

all the better.......LOL.

M.

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3:33

May 1, 2004

As far as repeating grades are concerned...there are lots of things to

consider. Chiefly, I'm so glad that my son is hitting puberty in middle school

as

opposed to elementary. His behaviors are more " typical " of middle schoolers and

therefore a bit more tolerated.

Jodi

May 2, 2004

Donna,

Aren't you glad those pathetic tests will be over this time next week?

I hate that the kids are taught to pass a test and not to learn the

material for life time use. with my son's school the test results decide which

class

you go into for the 5th grade.

Maureen

9 1/2y

4 1/2 y ds

a 2y

Jillian 1y

May 3, 2004

repeated first grade, to get her basic reading and math down better. It

was a very good move for her.

She is repeating fifth grade, mainly for more socialization and emotional

maturity. However, she will still be, and remain heavy in the academics. I

don't know how best to describe it, I just know she needs a little more maturity

under her belt before tackling middle school.

Sharon H.

Mom to , (12, DS) and , (8)

South Carolina

Re: 's IEP

In a message dated 5/1/2004 8:29:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, huie@...

writes:

is 12, will be 13 in September. It was a joint decision between us,

and the school, that another year in elementary will benefit her in

socialization and emotional maturity. She will be in 5th grade.

Sharon

Hi Sharon,

Did you elect to have repeat 5th grade, another grade or both?

is 9 and will complete 3rd grade in an inclusion class this year. We are

considering repeating 3rd grade for a number of reasons - good teacher choices,

he has made a lot of progress this year, and in NY, a substantial part of the

4th grade curriculum is focusing on the standardized assessments that are given.

He is reading at a mid to late first grade level, and I, too, feel another year

of elementary school would be beneficial...I'm just not sure which grade would

be best to repeat.

Donna

October 21, 2005

Hi,

had his anual IEP this morning and it went realy well.

The assistant principal agrees that he needs further evaluation for any

specific reading disabilities,unfortunately it's not up to her.

Tons of paperwork have to be filled out by his teacher and myself.Then it's

all turned over to the school psychologist who has the final say wheather

needs to be tested for anything but he does exhibit alot of Dyslexia symptoms.

We also agreed that come April-May will not be able to take the

TN.Comprehensive Assessment Program Achievement Test like the rest of his class.

We will have another meeting to decide if he needs to take it in a small

group with a proctor bubbeling in his answer or one on one.Either way someone

will

fill in the bubbles for him.

s making alot of progress with his speach articulation as long as it's

just repeating a word but when he starts talking sentences he loses it,so they

will start working on that more.

I did find something out that has changed with our school system.In order to

receive OT or PT through the school a child had to fall under IDEA because

there was no money for it under 504.Not anymore, which is great news because

will eventualy be released from speach.

Have a great weekend!

Becki and 7 systemic

October 21, 2005

Val,

I do plan on reading what you have put in the files about IDEA and our

childrens rights.I also have more then 1 copy of my rights with all the forms in

it

if I want to apeal something and all the other things I can do if he isn't

tested.

I don't have any psych benefits but I will pay for an outside evaluation and

if does indeed have a specific learning disability the school has to pay.

My printer is on the fritz but anything I find that could be used to my

advantage I can e-mail it to a friend and have them print it out.I also think

at the Nashville AF has a whole book on the laws that she gives parents

who need it.

It just breaks my heart that knows his letters and their sounds but put

it on paper and he is just lost and starts crying.He is so afraid that he

will have to repeat every grade and never get out of grade school.His self

esteam

is down the toilet and thats not right either.

I'm just praying that all goes well and I don't have to exercise my

rights.His IEP's have always been so easy as far as the arthritis and speach and

when

he was 3 there was no problem having the full academic testing done.

They did say that alot of TN laws have changed concerning special ed and

related services and we even had a TN bashing session.I know each state and each

school district have differant ways of doing things but a state can not change

a federal law.

Looks like it's time to do some homework.

Thanks a bunch

Becki and 7 systemic

October 21, 2005

Liz,

Thanks!

I looked up the site on s Law back in 2001 and again last year for his

3yr evaluation.

Time to look it up again.

Becki

October 21, 2005

Val,

hasn't been tested for anything as of yet.Apparently the school psyche

gets to make that decision.

We do have the Tn.Center for Dyslexia at MTSU in Murfreesboro.I think they

are the ones that do the testing.

I wish to God I could go back in time.I went to slaw and learned some

disturbing things.

His speach teacher made the comment that a child could not be in resource

and Title 1 reading and it's called double dipping.Oh so not true both are

funded seperately and if any school says that, to have them give you a copy of

the

law in writing.

is 7 and in 1st grade and can't read a lick,if he cant read proficiant

by grade 3 he probably never will.The school has to provide any and all

neccesary services to help him catch up.He has to be evaluated and no matter

whatthe

testing shows they still have to do anything and everything to help him.I

think it's a no brainer myself.

is very good at memorizing.With enough time he can MEMORIZE his

vocabulary words in order.Jump them around or put them on another sheet of paper

and

nope. does have about 10 words he can spell by memory verbaly but again

the same words on paper and he's lost.

I know something is wrong,don't know what and don't realy care.I just want

him to learn to read so he can excell at other things he is good at but will

never fully learn if he can't read.

The psychologist that answers questions for wrightslaw said a child that goes

just 2 years without knowing how to read impacts the child socialy and

emotionaly more then a child who is physicaly abused by their parents.

No we don't have TennCare and trying to avoid it just as long as possible but

the day will come.Our premiums are just under $500 and will go up another 25%

come April 1st.

I have some things I want to print out to give to his speach teacher so it

can go in his IEP and all the paperwork that this stinkin psych has to look at.I

believe will get the special ed he needs but time is critical.His

teacher also knows that I don't care if he does have to go to resource instead

of

regular ed or a combo of both.

Rambling here and you bet I will be in touch if I have more questions or need

your help.

Thanks Val

Hugs

Becki

October 21, 2005

I am just curious, but it is only 1st grade and here it is about 6 weeks

into the year. How much is he suppose to be reading by now? Kim

In a message dated 10/21/2005 3:10:16 PM Central Standard Time,

Arthurnator@... writes:

is 7 and in 1st grade and can't read a lick

October 21, 2005

Hi,

We are about 8 weeks into school and should be in second grade.

Most kids here can read by the end of Kindergarten or atlest sound out words.

They also do spelling tests in the first 6 weeks.

The last 2 yrs he had to take these computerised tests that showed he wasn't

even close to being an emergant reader and for his age he is far beyong grade

level.

I also thought that mayby they just push the kids way to hard way to young to

learn to read.

Not the case.Preschoolers and Kindergarteners are more then capable at

learning how to read and by waiting until a child is in 2nd or 3rd grade is way

to

late.

We do have an excellant school system that scores 95-98% proficiant in

reading and math and way above the national average.

Either way a 7 yr old child should atleast be able to sound words out and

when they take their standardized test next spring they will have to be able to

read several questions and the answers all by themselves.

Becki

October 21, 2005

Interesting, I worked in a Kindergarten classroom last year and most of our

kids were not reading by the end of the year. In 1st grade, where I am this

year, we don't start our spelling tests until November. We send sight words

home for them to work on at home from the first week thought. We have lots of

kids that are still working on sounding out simple words at this point in the

year. We give them extra attention in kind of an " at risk " group, but the

majority are not identified as anything more than just needing extra tutoring,

at least at this point. I am in a really good school district as well. Good

luck to . I hope things go well for him. Kim

In a message dated 10/21/2005 3:32:10 PM Central Standard Time,

Arthurnator@... writes:

We are about 8 weeks into school and should be in second grade.

Most kids here can read by the end of Kindergarten or atlest sound out words.

They also do spelling tests in the first 6 weeks.

October 21, 2005

Becki,

You have helped me and now I would like to help you.

What you are being told is not true. The psychologist does nto have final say

on further evaluation. You do!!!!! If you request your child recieve

psychoeducational evaulation as well as testing for dyslexia and have a valid

reason it must be done. You can nopt be refused an evaulation.

There shouldn't be TONS of paperwork for you to fill out and for the the

sychologist to CONSIDER.

having a chronic illness that adversel affects his progress in school is

enough to keep him qualified for SPED. I just put a lot of infomrtion in a file

called Advocating for children with disabilities in school. Its in the FILE

section on the board. If you would like any help l please let me know. I am

very familiar with the federal IDEA laws and the Tennessee laws. I have

personally influenced changes the special ed department here in Cleveland, TN. I

have 3 children in SPED for different reasons.

Arthurnator@... wrote: