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I agree with the grumpiness from it at first LOLOL

I know I have gluten sensitivity but I watched some program on UCSD tv

claiming there is no real diagnoisic standard fro Gluten intolerence or

sensitivity to exist but some people are told the have it so im curious

about that. Have you found doctors that treat that as a diagnosis? My

original immunologist that I had a s child was very progressive and even

diagnosed me with chronic fatigue syndrome when I was 8ish? He was working

with another doctor studying it at the time and so believed kids could get

it. I do think it was actually Fibro but CFS was the only word he had then

as a immunologist.

Anyways, I found that the grumpiness and irritation of finding out just how

much gluten is in alot of things is negated grreatly by how much better I

felt by avoiding it. I think I need to avoid it even more than I do because

my sinuses are starting to get drippy again and when I was following it even

closer, that was getting better for the first time in over 10 years of my

life!.

I do think its well worth it not only for the JIA but for any other

conditons that might be happening too. Like i said with me, I felt it even

improved my psychological/emotional depression issues. I felt way more

stable in mood than ever before

I was going to say that if you dont like brown rice, you can experiment with

different types. I used to not like it but than we found Basmati brown rice

and I LOVEEEEEE It! So I would say there are a lot of options out there to

find stuff the family likes and still have alternativies.

Izzie

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:07 AM, imviolin <imviolin@...> wrote:

> The gluten free diet does NOT have to be expensive.

> stick to brown rice, potatoes & corn for starches,

> and then do fresh fruit/veggies, chicken/fish.

> She also has type 1 diabetes and lactose intolerant,

> so we were limited in those areas as well.

>

> My daughter was diagnosed gluten SENSITIVE, not

> celiac, and we (the whole family) went on a GF diet...

> they say that if one family member has it, the likelihood

> of others having it are high...

>

> we are all healthier and feel much better because of it.

> there are lots of GF recipes/websites online.

> try it for a couple of weeks (you'll be grumpy about it

> at first!), and give it a chance.

> :o)

> Irene

>

>

>

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I agree with this. GF does not have to be expensive. We did it as a family

and I saw a great difference in both of my girls. Zoe with the JRA and

is with her " mood swings " . We have not stayed consistent with it but

need to because I have seen some dramatic changes in is recently that

tell me her system is " out of whack " again. In addition to avoiding Gluten,

we have found that avoiding processed foods in general has helped also. We

got rid of most deli meats, only use uncured bacon & ham and I buy most of

my beef from a farm now instead of the store. But I also do organic for all

my meats, dairy, eggs, and most fruits/veggies. That costs me a little more

but so worth it to me.

Good luck. I think you will see a difference.

Joann

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of imviolin

Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:08 PM

Subject: Gluten Free Diet

The gluten free diet does NOT have to be expensive.

stick to brown rice, potatoes & corn for starches,

and then do fresh fruit/veggies, chicken/fish.

She also has type 1 diabetes and lactose intolerant,

so we were limited in those areas as well.

My daughter was diagnosed gluten SENSITIVE, not

celiac, and we (the whole family) went on a GF diet...

they say that if one family member has it, the likelihood

of others having it are high...

we are all healthier and feel much better because of it.

there are lots of GF recipes/websites online.

try it for a couple of weeks (you'll be grumpy about it

at first!), and give it a chance.

:o)

Irene

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I also agree with what Izzy and others have said, it made a big

difference for my daughter. There was a point where we thought she

may have Celiac and had her tested but it came back negative. I

still kept her on a reduced gluten diet because there was no doubt

that it made her feel better (dark circles under eyes gone, less

swelling in her knee). We experimented with dairy too since she had

reflux as a baby (can be the cause even if baby is breastfed, the

mother can pass the allergens through her own milk!). She's able to

eat dairy now (2 yrs. later), but we continue to all eat a low gluten

diet, mostly organic whole food (veggies, fruits, unprocessed,

etc.). We hardly ever eat out which saves a lot of money over the

long run. I also am a huge trader joes fan!

-Hadley (Isabelle 4 yrs., pauci jra since age 2, mtx remission 1.5

yrs.)

>

> I agree with this. GF does not have to be expensive. We did it as

a family

> and I saw a great difference in both of my girls. Zoe with the JRA

and

> is with her " mood swings " . We have not stayed consistent with

it but

> need to because I have seen some dramatic changes in is

recently that

> tell me her system is " out of whack " again. In addition to

avoiding Gluten,

> we have found that avoiding processed foods in general has helped

also. We

> got rid of most deli meats, only use uncured bacon & ham and I buy

most of

> my beef from a farm now instead of the store. But I also do

organic for all

> my meats, dairy, eggs, and most fruits/veggies. That costs me a

little more

> but so worth it to me.

>

>

>

> Good luck. I think you will see a difference.

>

>

>

> Joann

>

>

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf

> Of imviolin

> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:08 PM

>

> Subject: Gluten Free Diet

>

>

>

> The gluten free diet does NOT have to be expensive.

> stick to brown rice, potatoes & corn for starches,

> and then do fresh fruit/veggies, chicken/fish.

> She also has type 1 diabetes and lactose intolerant,

> so we were limited in those areas as well.

>

> My daughter was diagnosed gluten SENSITIVE, not

> celiac, and we (the whole family) went on a GF diet...

> they say that if one family member has it, the likelihood

> of others having it are high...

>

> we are all healthier and feel much better because of it.

> there are lots of GF recipes/websites online.

> try it for a couple of weeks (you'll be grumpy about it

> at first!), and give it a chance.

> :o)

> Irene

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I have been reading these posts with interest and wondering if anyone had found

a website where there are some inexpensive and realistic sample menus for a GF

diet? We tried it about 3 years ago but at that time didn't really commit to it

and I'm wondering if it might help both my jra daughter with pain and stomach

issues, as well as my other kids' stomach issues!

(mom to Lexi, 7, pauci jra, hypothyroid, undiagnosed stomach issues)

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Gluten Free Diet

>

>

>

> The gluten free diet does NOT have to be expensive.

> stick to brown rice, potatoes & corn for starches,

> and then do fresh fruit/veggies, chicken/fish.

> She also has type 1 diabetes and lactose intolerant,

> so we were limited in those areas as well.

>

> My daughter was diagnosed gluten SENSITIVE, not

> celiac, and we (the whole family) went on a GF diet...

> they say that if one family member has it, the likelihood

> of others having it are high...

>

> we are all healthier and feel much better because of it.

> there are lots of GF recipes/websites online.

> try it for a couple of weeks (you'll be grumpy about it

> at first!), and give it a chance.

> :o)

> Irene

>

>

>

>

>

>

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  • 11 months later...

I am trying do omitt dairy & gluten in the diet but gluten free is really really

hard for me. I know it is key to feeling better for me. Any tips on how to stick

with this?  Loni

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

Subject: Sleeping Better

" EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half

mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but that

is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only

expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam

tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Loni, I have not cut out dairy but I have decreased my consumption of it. I

should maybe try and cut out dairy and see if it gives me some positive results.

My chiropractor is Dutch and he says that the dairy products in Europe are

better for you than in America and for some of his patience that can not have

dairy but are traveling to Europe he tells them they can consume some dairy

while in Europe.

As far as gluten goes, I have eliminated it from my diet. One of the reasons

that keeps me on track is remembering how badly I felt when I ate gluten. There

are more gluten free products to choose from than before but depending on your

tastes some items may taste OK to you and some terrible. Because I was not

familiar with the products by sight I would get mixed up on which items I liked

and which I did not. So, I started saving the empty boxes and bags of what I

liked and stored them in a cereal box to keep for reference when I made out my

grocery list. I have come to terms with the fact that I will never eat a soft

sandwich again, but I grill my sandwiches. And when I look at new recipes from

a regular cookbook I look for recipes that are inherently gluten free or with

very little gluten so adding a GF substitute will not be difficult.

I have mentioned before that I have a small catering company and most of my

recipes are my own. I need to make more of an effort to develop some GF

recipes. Below I have written out a recipe I have made. It is not a healthy

recipe but it is GF and the softest GF dessert I have had. If you try it let me

know what you think.

Good luck,

Jennie

Baked Oatmeal Cake

Combine in Medium Bowl:

1/2 Cup Vegetable Oil

3/4 Cup Sugar

2 Eggs

Add:

3 Cups GF Oatmeal

1 tsp Baking Soda

1/2 tsp Cinnamon

1 Cup Milk or Milk substitute

1 tsp Vanilla

Spread batter into a 9x9 pan

Mix Strusel in Small Bowl:

In small food processor, process GF Oatmeal until fine like flour. Measure out

1/3 Cup of " Oatmeal Flour "

1/4 Cup Brown Sugar

2 Tablespoons Butter, melted

1/2 tsp Cinnamon

Crumble above strusel on top of batter and bake at 350 degrees for 30 minutes.

Variations:

Substitute Brown Sugar for White

Add Raisins and/or Chopped Nuts

Try substituting " Oatmeal Flour " for regular flour in baking recipes that use

only small amount of flour

________________________________

From: Loni <loni326@...>

Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 10:37:33 PM

Subject: Re: Gluten Free Diet

I am trying do omitt dairy & gluten in the diet but gluten free is really really

hard for me. I know it is key to feeling better for me. Any tips on how to stick

with this? Loni

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

Subject: Sleeping Better

" EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half

mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but that

is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only

expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam

tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Hey Loni,

I know it can be hard; you should've seen me when I first realized I had to do

it.  " What? No more bread? No more BEER?! "

But it can be done.  I kind of look at it like, if something makes you feel

sick enough, enough times, you realize that it's a matter of choosing to feel

awful, or choosing to feel better by avoiding it.  I did the same thing when I

stopped...um...abusing certain substances in my late teen and early twenties;

enough was enough.

And I've since eliminated, at least for the time being (and maybe long term if I

find it does me great good), even more foods: dried fruits, honey, concentrated

sugar, pretty much all grains (even gluten free ones), most nuts/seeds...all

foods I enjoy, but there's clearly an imbalance that needs correcting, and right

now it seems that my body is doing better without these things.

But if you're good with gluten free grains, go for them! I have tried some

commercially available rice breads that are actually quite nice; some,

especially those made with brown rice (more nutritious than white) can be a bit

crumbly, but not bad.  Other ones like millet or buckwheat or amaranth breads

can be quite crumbly indeed, and have a robust flavor that takes some getting

used to, though are high in nutrients and protein (for a bread, at least).

And of course you can get into cooking the whole grains (millet, quinoa,

amaranth, buckwheat, sorghum, rice, etc.) and eating them that way - and if

you're okay with fresh fruit, use more of that, and vegetables, for carbs.  Or

eat more fat if you're fine with it, for caloric energy.

I know that giving up the chewy, sweet, fragrant satisfying sensation of wheat,

or rye, or spelt, especially as bread, can be hard - but if you know it's bad

for you, and bad for your guts, it's worth it.  Trust me, dealing with guts

that are irritated or impaired can mean dealing with other symptoms that many

wouldn't even consider to be a part of digestive health - they're a big part of

our system and connected to other parts of us.  Better to give them a rest if

you know you can. 

Consider it good that you know gluten causes you problems! Just think of how

many people eat gluten, feel sick from it, and don't know why! You don't need

full blown Celiac disease to have trouble with that particular grain protein.

Sorry about the length of this message; I'm surprised I can type this much about

food on an empty stomach, fasting before a physical at the Doctor's...

I had a bread recipe (gluten free of course) bookmarked, entitled " Gluten Free

Bread That Just Might Make You Cry [For Joy] " ; sounds very tasty.  Though, it

does have yeast, eggs, honey and apple cider vinegar in it - if you're fine with

these things, it might help you keep off gluten, 'cause it sounds really

satisfying.

Here's the link:

http://glutenfreebay.blogspot.com/2007/02/gluten-free-bread-that-just-might-make\

..html

Good luck!

R.

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

Subject: Sleeping Better

" EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half

mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but that

is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only

expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam

tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Loni,

As you know I've also just started gluten-free (starting with 70% less gluten

and 90% less dairy).

Like Jennie I also think:

-Swithing gradually to gluten-free may be easier/better.

-You have to cook more yourself for gluten-free. I don't think there are many

gluten-free meals (when I'm lazy I kinda miss eating standard pizza's!)

On gluten-free and dairy-free I have found 2 diets that seem close to

one-another:

-SPECIFIC CARBOHYDRATE DIET (SCD): seems as if the book is full of interesting

info for beginners (you learn to make SCD-yoghurt that IS okey!...):

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/book/the_book.htm

-PALEOLITHIC DIET (Cavemand Diet):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet

I kinda like to eat meat and fish so it is doable, I also like to eat

vegetables, but not sure if I'm not allergic to some of them (will be tested

soon!)...

You can also combine it with blood-type-diet. I'm O-, I haven't read anything on

that, but from my dear mother ;) I know the O-bloodtype diet is based on

meat/fish...

I definitely believe in the importance of combining food. You shouldn't eat

bacon and egg together. With meat or fish or eggs you should only eat vegetables

or fat (butter/nuts/oil)... I have a good book on it in Dutch, it is based on

Dr. Hay's diet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Hay_diet

.

>

> From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

>

> Subject: Sleeping Better

>

> " EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

>

> Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

>

> Greetings,

>

> Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

>

> I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a

half mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

>

> In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

>

> I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but

that is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I

only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand

slam tournaments! !

>

> I hope this helps, good luck,

>

> Jennie

>

> PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

>

>

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Gluten-free is not a solution.

You should stay away from bread altogether.

Use rice crackers as an example.

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>

> " EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

>

> Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

>

> Greetings,

>

> Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on

> my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request

> for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here

> is a recap of my story.

>

> I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a

> half mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems.

> As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I

> was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even

> when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours

> and wake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I

> did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I

> could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort

> mattress, and after the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I

> laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal

> springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

>

> In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

> Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin

> and through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that

> taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well

> for me. Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take

> as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not

> sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least

> 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in

> during the day - the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

>

> I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so,

> but that is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and

> usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during

> the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

>

> I hope this helps, good luck,

>

> Jennie

>

> PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

>

>

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For some of us our health will improve it we limit or eliminate certain foods

from our diet. I forgot to mention it might be easier to eliminate one food

category at a time. I had initially tried to do to much all at once and it was

too hard. Mentally, for me, because of the limitations placed on me because of

EMS & MCS and because food has always been a source of comfort I felt like it

was just one more thing to give up when changing my diet. Also eliminating one

food item at a time helped me to see the specific impact that food had on my

health.

Good luck,

Jennie

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Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 2:15:55 PM

Subject: Re: Gluten Free Diet

Loni,

As you know I've also just started gluten-free (starting with 70% less gluten

and 90% less dairy).

Like Jennie I also think:

-Swithing gradually to gluten-free may be easier/better.

-You have to cook more yourself for gluten-free. I don't think there are many

gluten-free meals (when I'm lazy I kinda miss eating standard pizza's!)

On gluten-free and dairy-free I have found 2 diets that seem close to

one-another:

-SPECIFIC CARBOHYDRATE DIET (SCD): seems as if the book is full of interesting

info for beginners (you learn to make SCD-yoghurt that IS okey!...):

http://www.breaking theviciouscycle. info/book/ the_book. htm

-PALEOLITHIC DIET (Cavemand Diet):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet

I kinda like to eat meat and fish so it is doable, I also like to eat

vegetables, but not sure if I'm not allergic to some of them (will be tested

soon!)...

You can also combine it with blood-type-diet. I'm O-, I haven't read anything on

that, but from my dear mother ;) I know the O-bloodtype diet is based on

meat/fish...

I definitely believe in the importance of combining food. You shouldn't eat

bacon and egg together. With meat or fish or eggs you should only eat vegetables

or fat (butter/nuts/ oil)... I have a good book on it in Dutch, it is based on

Dr. Hay's diet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Hay_diet

.

>

> From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

>

> Subject: Sleeping Better

>

> " EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

>

> Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

>

> Greetings,

>

> Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

>

> I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a

half mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

>

> In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

>

> I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but

that is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I

only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand

slam tournaments! !

>

> I hope this helps, good luck,

>

> Jennie

>

> PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

>

>

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I agree gluten is not the solution (if only it were that simple) but for myself

I have found that if I can eliminate factors that weaken my immune system and

general health than I can tolerate my EMS & EMS better. So finding out what

foods, allergens, etc. effect my health negatively and eliminating them as much

as possible helps.

Jennie

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From: charles <charles@...>

Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 2:30:23 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Gluten Free Diet

Gluten-free is not a solution.

You should stay away from bread altogether.

Use rice crackers as an example.

Greetings,

Claessens

member VerbandBaubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

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Sleeping Better

>

> " EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

>

> Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

>

> Greetings,

>

> Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on

> my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request

> for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here

> is a recap of my story.

>

> I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a

> half mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems.

> As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I

> was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even

> when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours

> and wake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I

> did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I

> could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort

> mattress, and after the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I

> laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal

> springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

>

> In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

> Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin

> and through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that

> taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well

> for me. Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take

> as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not

> sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least

> 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in

> during the day - the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

>

> I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so,

> but that is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and

> usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during

> the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

>

> I hope this helps, good luck,

>

> Jennie

>

> PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

>

>

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Hi  Loni,

 

For your situation, this will be tough, because you have a family at home.  For

me, tho, I have nothing in my home--food, hygiene, or cleaning-wise, which

contains gluten.  I stick to eating all natural un-fooled-around-with foods

from scratch.  I started out using alot of the gf mixes and such, but found it

easier to just make everything myself from raw ingredients, over time.  Of

course, alot of the problem for me involved also avoiding the use of sugars and

preserving agents, which is why I came to do it this way.  My husband also

wanted to support me in this--he eats out most days for breakie and lunch, due

to his work schedule.  On weekends and holidays he eats gluten-free with me;

dinners are always gf with me, also.  A dedicated gf kitchen can be done with a

family, but you definitely have to have family support to do it. 

 

Another thing I did for my hubby, was I set up a mini kitchen in a large (5x8')

porch closet I had made off our back entry--sink, hot plate, a little

workspace, his own pans and dishes, etc.... with a table and chairs, sofa,

etc on the porch where he can entertain friends.  When he wants to, he can go

there and have cookies, crackers, gluten treats, gluten clam chowder soup,

etc.  The porch is open on 2 sides, but can be easily enclosed for winter with

panels of plastic in wood frames, and I outfitted the porch with a little gas

fireplace for heat and ambiance.  This has really worked great for us over the

years.  We also have large family holiday gatherings/parties there, where we

bring in buffet tables and chairs from the local fire dept.  When I host

Christmas, we enclose the porch and I make the turkey and stuffing, (plus other

foods for me), and the rest of the family brings their own various dishes and

desserts with glutens in them. 

None of the foods they bring ever enters our house.  Since I can sometimes

react to air-borne gluten (asthma attack) as well as digestively, this works

well for us.

 

Your situation will change over time due to your family.  I was unable to heal

digestively until my husband had zero glutens in our house--I reacted even to

dust from his cereal.  Other celiacs are rarely this reactive, however, but I

had been bedbound 13 years due to celiac disease and secondary diseases caused

by it, and majorly ill from infancy.  The problem with glutens is the tight

junction damage and blood-brain barrier damage they do.  Everyone talks about

the digestive problems with glutens, but the damage to other organs can be as

bad or worse.  Similar situation to the oxytocin and medical research Bill and

I were discussing.  CD=gut damage, in most peoples' minds, but they fail

to recognise the other problems due to it, especially brain damage.

 

Another thing you may be experiencing is gluten addiction.  This is rare, but

it happened to me--I had withdrawal symptoms for at least 6 weeks when I went

gf.  If you keep occasionally cheating, it will prolong the misery of

withdrawal symptoms.

 

Good luck, Loni.  I hope you can soon come up with a plan that will work for

you,

Diane

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

Subject: Sleeping Better

" EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half

mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but that

is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only

expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam

tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Hi Jennie,

 

You can tolerate oats???  Do you buy a special kind of gf oats, Jennie?  Most

oats are contaminated with gluten from other grain sources.  I have tried Irish

oats, local oats..... no oats work for me.

 

Only have a couple more minutes before I have to get off-line, but I have

recipes for soft gf sandwich breads.  I will share if you want.  (I will trade

for gf/sf desserts.  lol  We could start a cooking trading card business,

Jennie!)  I use a electric bread machine for some of my recipes and set it to

bake while I am out.  (But have to say, I really don't seem to have a problem

with the bread machine on ES-wise, when I am home all day.)  Depending on what

you are able to use, ingredients-wise, these could work for you or not.  I use

guar and xantham gums.  I also use buttermilk sometimes for helping with

leavening and texture.  This is reeaaallllly getting off-topic.  (Sorry

Marc.)  I can send more info privately.

 

Happy gf eating,

Diane

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

Subject: Sleeping Better

" EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half

mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but that

is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only

expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam

tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Hi, R,

 

Another thing you may react to if you are eating it: millet.  Some gluten

intolerants are intolerant of millet and oats.  People with cd are supposed to

only have problems with wheat, rye, and barley, (but also often react to gluten

contaminations in oats).  People with full-spectrum gluten intolerance react to

BMROW  (lol--can be an apt name): barley, millet, rye, oats, and wheat.  This

is a nebulous territory tho.  I have cd by biopsy but I still cannot tolerate

oats or millet. 

 

I am totally sugar free/sweetener free otherwise, but I do eat yeast breads

some with honey or molasses as the yeast feeder.  You can usually half the

sweetener used in the recipe and the bread will rise as well and there will be

no sweetener left in the bread in its original form (it is " eaten " by the

yeast).  I, like you, cannot eat yeast breads on-going all the time.  I eat

yeast breads frugally.  I think I tried the one you mention--called for a dutch

oven and a plastic 6 qt container to mix and store it in???  It was really

good.  I liked.  Had a great crust which you usually don't get with a gf

bread.  OKAY, off topic yet again.  lol

 

Diane

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

Subject: Sleeping Better

" EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half

mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but that

is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only

expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam

tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Hi, ,

 

Okay, I will bite--why is bread not okay to eat?

 

I agree with you that gluten-free is not an ES solution on it's own.  It might

be *part* of an ES solution, however, if you are one of the 7% (or more) who

have genes for gluten intolerance and it is messing with your tight junctions

and immune system.  If removing metals were the only solution, then *ALL* of

those who have done that would be totally well, but we have not seen that that

is the case.  (Also, there would not be people coming down with ES from

pesticide and mold exposures.) 

 

However, I agree with you that removing heavy metals from your body is a good

place to start as long as your body is already prepared for detoxing, and you

have a competent dentist to remove fillings, and another reliable way to remove

residual metals.  Otherwise, people will get very ill from a footbath

over-mobilizing toxins.  It is not enough to mobilize toxins in your body;

people with ES often cannot get the toxins out fast enough before they resettle

in other organs and fats.  Just because one or some can use a footbath to do

this, it doesn't equate to this being universal.  However, *if* you personally

know the correct amount of time for each ES person to use said footbath, you may

have hit upon something. 

 

Do you have a set amount of time?  Perhaps your way of using the footbath is

*just* the perfect time to remove toxins at *just* a slow enough rate as for the

body to not mobilize too much?  But if this were the case, you would then have

to have a different length of time for each person to use this footbath, since

not all will detox in your alotted time frame.  (What was it, I have forgotten;

a week or 2 weeks????)  Skeptical or not, we all want to be healed, but this

isn't making logical sense to my mind.  If you can enlighten me with how it is

each person is able to accomplish this in the same frame of time, I am game. 

(But understand I went for bone marrow detoxing last year, it helped.  I *still*

have to remain gf, because I have other issues which also interact with my ES.)

 

I love ya, , even tho you are one of the crabbiest, argumentative people

I have ever come across.  But I hope you are correct and it is all just that

easy.  Hugs, (even tho I suspect you are not the hugging type.  lol)

 

Diane

From: charles <charles@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Gluten Free Diet

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 2:30 PM

 

Gluten-free is not a solution.

You should stay away from bread altogether.

Use rice crackers as an example.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

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Hey Diane,

Yep, I have had issues with millet in the past, too; a pity, I always enjoyed

fluffy, freshly cooked millet, but it gave me headaches sometimes - sorry if I

already mentioned that.  So yeah, right now I'm grain-free.  Period.  I've

had the fewest digestive problems thus far with lots on animal protein,

ungarnished/dressing covered veggies, and fresh fruit.  I think beans and

grains and to a lesser but definite extent, nuts and seeds, can be hard to

digest for some (sorry if I mentioned that, too, I've been reading and typing so

much about food lately I lost track!).

But yeah, thanks for mentioning that about the millet; it's been a staple in our

house as long as I remember, but it looks like my food staples may be making a

considerable shift.

BMROW? Yeah, great acronym, lol!

I'll have to tell my dad about millet.  I suspect he's got issues with gluten

and maybe grains in general - my mom swears she's fine, and my dad's mother (my

grandmother) is certifiably allergic to wheat, so if this is hereditary, I had

to have gotten it from someone!

Take care,

R.

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

Subject: Sleeping Better

" EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half

mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but that

is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only

expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam

tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Diane, I'm not sure but I thought meant it's even better to eat no bread

at all instead of non-gluten bread...

There are 2 well-known diets (SCD and Paleo) that advise to eliminate not only

gluten but also bread, rice, potatoes, corn, sugar,... These are diets as our

ancestors were eating before the agricultural revolution.

[copy/paste now because no even I can't write it better than this ;)

According to S. Boyd Eaton, " we are the heirs of inherited characteristics

accrued over millions of years; the vast majority of our biochemistry and

physiology are tuned to life conditions that existed prior to the advent of

agriculture some 10,000 years ago. Genetically our bodies are virtually the same

as they were at the end of the Paleolithic era some 20,000 years ago. "

Links of these 2 diets:

(there will be differences between the two but no big differences I think)

-SPECIFIC CARBOHYDRATE DIET (SCD):

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/book/the_book.htm

-PALEOLITHIC DIET (Cavemand Diet):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet

>

>

> From: charles <charles@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Gluten Free Diet

>

> Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 2:30 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Gluten-free is not a solution.

>

> You should stay away from bread altogether.

> Use rice crackers as an example.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes. nl

> www.milieuziektes. be

> www.hetbitje. nl

> checked by Norton

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Thanks, ,

I see.  I am familiar with both diets.  I did understand he meant all bread

but didn't understand why.  THanks for clarifying, and yes, that is probably

what meant.  I used to follow the paleo diet, but feel better eating a

more normal balanced diet (gf, of course) now.

 

Thanks for your input, ;

Diane

 

From: <@...>

Subject: Re: Gluten Free Diet

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 8:39 PM

 

Diane, I'm not sure but I thought meant it's even better to eat no bread

at all instead of non-gluten bread...

There are 2 well-known diets (SCD and Paleo) that advise to eliminate not only

gluten but also bread, rice, potatoes, corn, sugar,... These are diets as our

ancestors were eating before the agricultural revolution.

[copy/paste now because no even I can't write it better than this ;)

According to S. Boyd Eaton, " we are the heirs of inherited characteristics

accrued over millions of years; the vast majority of our biochemistry and

physiology are tuned to life conditions that existed prior to the advent of

agriculture some 10,000 years ago. Genetically our bodies are virtually the same

as they were at the end of the Paleolithic era some 20,000 years ago. "

Links of these 2 diets:

(there will be differences between the two but no big differences I think)

-SPECIFIC CARBOHYDRATE DIET (SCD):

http://www.breaking theviciouscycle. info/book/ the_book. htm

-PALEOLITHIC DIET (Cavemand Diet):

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Paleolithic_ diet

>

>

> From: charles <charles@... >

> Subject: Re: Re: Gluten Free Diet

> groups (DOT) com

> Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 2:30 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Gluten-free is not a solution.

>

> You should stay away from bread altogether.

> Use rice crackers as an example.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes. nl

> www.milieuziektes. be

> www.hetbitje. nl

> checked by Norton

>

>

>

>

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Yes I agree for the most part. I follow someone that says to stay away from all

grains. Our ancestors did not eat them & our bodies can't really metabolize them

IMO from my research. But man do I love bread!!!!!   Loni

From: charles <charles@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Gluten Free Diet

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:30 PM

 

Gluten-free is not a solution.

You should stay away from bread altogether.

Use rice crackers as an example.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

www.milieuziektes. be

www.hetbitje. nl

checked by Norton

Sleeping Better

>

> " EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

>

> Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

>

> Greetings,

>

> Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on

> my sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request

> for help with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here

> is a recap of my story.

>

> I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a

> half mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems.

> As it progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I

> was averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even

> when I took a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours

> and wake up, wide awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I

> did not sleep at all - at least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I

> could not try a foam mattress. In August I purchased a Select Comfort

> mattress, and after the off gassing of the new mattress at least when I

> laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain was from the metal

> springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use air chambers.

>

> In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

> Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin

> and through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that

> taking 6 mg or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well

> for me. Before starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take

> as a dose. 6mg is double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not

> sleep as much as I should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least

> 7 hours of sleep/night. And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in

> during the day - the kicker is I have narcolepsy!

>

> I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so,

> but that is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and

> usually I only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during

> the tennis grand slam tournaments! !

>

> I hope this helps, good luck,

>

> Jennie

>

> PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

>

>

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Jennie,

 

Yes I agree. I will do it gradually but try to stay away from Gluten & Dairy as

much as possible. I will limit grains in general. I have sooooo may food

intolerances/allergies that it seems I can't eat much at all. Loni

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Gluten Free Diet

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 2:43 PM

 

For some of us our health will improve it we limit or eliminate certain foods

from our diet. I forgot to mention it might be easier to eliminate one food

category at a time. I had initially tried to do to much all at once and it was

too hard. Mentally, for me, because of the limitations placed on me because of

EMS & MCS and because food has always been a source of comfort I felt like it

was just one more thing to give up when changing my diet. Also eliminating one

food item at a time helped me to see the specific impact that food had on my

health.

Good luck,

Jennie

____________ _________ _________ __

From: stephen_vandevijver e <stephen_vandevijver e@...>

groups (DOT) com

Sent: Wed, February 24, 2010 2:15:55 PM

Subject: Re: Gluten Free Diet

Loni,

As you know I've also just started gluten-free (starting with 70% less gluten

and 90% less dairy).

Like Jennie I also think:

-Swithing gradually to gluten-free may be easier/better.

-You have to cook more yourself for gluten-free. I don't think there are many

gluten-free meals (when I'm lazy I kinda miss eating standard pizza's!)

On gluten-free and dairy-free I have found 2 diets that seem close to

one-another:

-SPECIFIC CARBOHYDRATE DIET (SCD): seems as if the book is full of interesting

info for beginners (you learn to make SCD-yoghurt that IS okey!...):

http://www.breaking theviciouscycle. info/book/ the_book. htm

-PALEOLITHIC DIET (Cavemand Diet):

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Paleolithic_ diet

I kinda like to eat meat and fish so it is doable, I also like to eat

vegetables, but not sure if I'm not allergic to some of them (will be tested

soon!)...

You can also combine it with blood-type-diet. I'm O-, I haven't read anything on

that, but from my dear mother ;) I know the O-bloodtype diet is based on

meat/fish...

I definitely believe in the importance of combining food. You shouldn't eat

bacon and egg together. With meat or fish or eggs you should only eat vegetables

or fat (butter/nuts/ oil)... I have a good book on it in Dutch, it is based on

Dr. Hay's diet:

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dr._Hay_diet

.

>

> From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

>

> Subject: Sleeping Better

>

> " EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

>

> Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

>

> Greetings,

>

> Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

>

> I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a

half mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

>

> In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

>

> I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but

that is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I

only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand

slam tournaments! !

>

> I hope this helps, good luck,

>

> Jennie

>

> PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

>

>

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,

 

Yes I actually have been trying to do the gf diet for a number of years now but

has been too hard & I fall off the wagon. But now I am just too sick not to stay

with it. I am more dedicated now because I feel I don't have any other choice

really.

 

Thanks for the info. I am type O also. Feel much better when I eat more meat.

(Good Quality) Loni

From: <@...>

Subject: Re: Gluten Free Diet

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 12:15 PM

 

Loni,

As you know I've also just started gluten-free (starting with 70% less gluten

and 90% less dairy).

Like Jennie I also think:

-Swithing gradually to gluten-free may be easier/better.

-You have to cook more yourself for gluten-free. I don't think there are many

gluten-free meals (when I'm lazy I kinda miss eating standard pizza's!)

On gluten-free and dairy-free I have found 2 diets that seem close to

one-another:

-SPECIFIC CARBOHYDRATE DIET (SCD): seems as if the book is full of interesting

info for beginners (you learn to make SCD-yoghurt that IS okey!...):

http://www.breaking theviciouscycle. info/book/ the_book. htm

-PALEOLITHIC DIET (Cavemand Diet):

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Paleolithic_ diet

I kinda like to eat meat and fish so it is doable, I also like to eat

vegetables, but not sure if I'm not allergic to some of them (will be tested

soon!)...

You can also combine it with blood-type-diet. I'm O-, I haven't read anything on

that, but from my dear mother ;) I know the O-bloodtype diet is based on

meat/fish...

I definitely believe in the importance of combining food. You shouldn't eat

bacon and egg together. With meat or fish or eggs you should only eat vegetables

or fat (butter/nuts/ oil)... I have a good book on it in Dutch, it is based on

Dr. Hay's diet:

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dr._Hay_diet

.

>

> From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

>

> Subject: Sleeping Better

>

> " EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

>

> Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

>

> Greetings,

>

> Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

>

> I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a

half mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

>

> In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

>

> I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but

that is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I

only expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand

slam tournaments! !

>

> I hope this helps, good luck,

>

> Jennie

>

> PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

>

>

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I feel crappy after I eat Oats. Loni

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

Subject: Sleeping Better

" EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

Received: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 4:38 AM

Greetings,

Someone just posted about sleeping so I thought I would send an update on my

sleeping issues and what has helped. I had posted last summer a request for help

with sleeping - and thanks for the response that were sent. Here is a recap of

my story.

I've had EMS for a couple of year and last April a cell tower was placed a half

mile from my home and " coincidental " I started having sleep problems. As it

progressed I started having pains when I would lay on my mattress. I was

averaging about 3 hours of sleep a night for about 5 months and even when I took

a prescription sleep aid I would only sleep a couple of hours and wake up, wide

awake and not able to get back to sleep. Many nights I did not sleep at all - at

least once a week. Because of my MCS I knew I could not try a foam mattress. In

August I purchased a Select Comfort mattress, and after the off gassing of the

new mattress at least when I laid in bed sleepless I was not in pain. The pain

was from the metal springs in my regular mattress, Select Comfort mattress use

air chambers.

In September I read that EMS can decrease the body's Melatonin production.

Melatonin is part of the body's sleep cycle. I started taking Melatonin and

through a couple of resources and by trial and error have found that taking 6 mg

or Melatonin about 2 hours before I want to sleep works well for me. Before

starting Melatonin you should read up on how much to take as a dose. 6mg is

double the bottles recommended dose. I still do not sleep as much as I

should/need (8-9 hour/night) but I usually get at least 7 hours of sleep/night.

And if I don't take my meds I usually get a nap in during the day - the kicker

is I have narcolepsy!

I have had a little more trouble sleeping for the past 10 nights or so, but that

is my own fault cause I've been watching the Olympics on TV and usually I only

expose myself to the electromagnetic energy from TV during the tennis grand slam

tournaments! !

I hope this helps, good luck,

Jennie

PS - Select Comfort has a program for no interest payment plans

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Oats are good for the central nerve system...

I don't tolerate oats (I think).

.

>

> > I feel crappy after I eat Oats. Loni

>

> Oddly enough, I feel *better* after eating oats. I actually

> eat oats most every day...

>

> Marc

>

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haha different strokes!

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Gluten Free Diet

Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 9:41 PM

 

> I feel crappy after I eat Oats. Loni

Oddly enough, I feel *better* after eating oats. I actually

eat oats most every day...

Marc

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