Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> From: Rae Lynne <raelynnestewart@...>

> Subject: RE: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 9:24 PM

> Now you are contradicting yourself. Nobody said they

> don't work they simply have stated that they do more

> harm than good for our precious babies.

Jennie is saying they don't work. Do you need me to quote her?

Pepper

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Money isnt the only motivation! As mentioned " What is the world population " ?

That is your seed of knowledge, hopefully it takes root!! Well Ill talk to ya

later(my little guy needs tending to)!! Hopefully you can finish the video!

Jennie<><

> From: Jennie <mykidshisgift>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 10:26 AM

> Pepper, what is the world population?? That reponse is for

> you to decide/figure out!! Yes $$$$$$ is the root of all

> evil!! Why would they put anti freeze, formaldahyde,

> mercury, msg, etc. etc.(all highly toxic/deadly) in our

> great vaccines?.

Your theory makes no sense. If money WERE their only motivation, they would not

do that! They would use harmless substances.

> You need to watch the whole video! Denial wont change

> it/make it go away!

You don't have to eat the whole egg to know it's rotten. But I'll probably watch

it later.

Pepper

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> From: Rae Lynne <raelynnestewart@...>

> Subject: RE: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 9:21 PM

> Actually I think you should go back and read it because

> unless your computer conveniently deletes information you

> should know that it does infact say that those children who

> are given the vaccine are at a higher risk than those that

> aren't vaccinated.

Then what does

> " A study showed that children who have febrile

> seizures after receiving an MMR vaccine are no more likely

> to have more seizures, epilepsy "

mean? I copied and pasted it directly from the site.

Anybody who wants to can check.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vsd/mmrv_qa.htm#5

Pepper

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> From: Jennie <mykidshisgift@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 10:39 AM

> Money isnt the only motivation! As mentioned " What is

> the world population " ?

IIRC, around 6 billion. Um...so what?

Pepper

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Some consider the world over populated by about 4 billion or more!!

> From: Jennie <mykidshisgift>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 10:39 AM

> Money isnt the only motivation! As mentioned " What is

> the world population " ?

IIRC, around 6 billion. Um...so what?

Pepper

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> From: Jennie <mykidshisgift@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 1:22 PM

> Some consider the world over populated by about 4 billion or

> more!!

You're saying that the companies that make vaccines are trying to kill enough

people to bring down the world's population by 4 billion people!? ROTFLMAO!

That's as good as the guy on that video you posted a link to who said vaccines

could possibly turn people into non-humans. Bru-ha-ha!

Thanks for the chuckles.

Pepper

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Your welcomed!! No that is not what Im saying!! You still dont get it!! Enjoy

the mandatory adult vaccines they are getting ready to mandate! Our family wont

be in line!!

> From: Jennie <mykidshisgift>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 1:22 PM

> Some consider the world over populated by about 4 billion or

> more!!

You're saying that the companies that make vaccines are trying to kill enough

people to bring down the world's population by 4 billion people!? ROTFLMAO!

That's as good as the guy on that video you posted a link to who said vaccines

could possibly turn people into non-humans. Bru-ha-ha!

Thanks for the chuckles.

Pepper

[Guest guest]

Also it is not saying that vaccines are changing us into non humans(thanks for

the chuckle), it is saying that the human DNA is changing!!

> From: Jennie <mykidshisgift>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 1:22 PM

> Some consider the world over populated by about 4 billion or

> more!!

You're saying that the companies that make vaccines are trying to kill enough

people to bring down the world's population by 4 billion people!? ROTFLMAO!

That's as good as the guy on that video you posted a link to who said vaccines

could possibly turn people into non-humans. Bru-ha-ha!

Thanks for the chuckles.

Pepper

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> From: Jennie <mykidshisgift@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 2:28 PM

> Your welcomed!! No that is not what Im saying!! You still

> dont get it!!

Then what are you saying? If you have a real point...say it. If you don't just

say it, we'll know you are just a joke.

Pepper

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You are so rude!! Not worth my time anymore!! Dont even waste your time trying

to respond cuz I wont respond back!! And you know who " THEY " are!! <><  <><  <><

> From: Jennie <mykidshisgift>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 2:28 PM

> Your welcomed!! No that is not what Im saying!! You still

> dont get it!!

Then what are you saying? If you have a real point...say it. If you don't just

say it, we'll know you are just a joke.

Pepper

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Thanks for proving you are just a joke.

Pepper

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> > From: Jennie <mykidshisgift>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE

> ADVICE ME!!

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Pepper:

I am just back online after Tropical Storm Fay, and here you go again...what

more proof do you need: you have a perfectly healthy baby who is developing

normally, gets an MMR vaccination and suddenly starts having seizures and

regresses developmentally? Unless you have held your helpless baby in the

intensive care unit while he seizes uncontrollably, you would not understand.

But, I don't think you would understand even then.

Don't confront or condemn any of us with vaccine injured children until you have

walked in our shoes. You are dangerously crossing the line of human compassion

(which I think you already lack). You are by far outnumbered in your opinions,

so it might be better to keep your comments to yourself regarding this subject.

Coterillo

Mom to EJ - 2 1/2 and vaccine injured since his 15 month MMR vaccine

---- Pepper <hey_pep@...> wrote:

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> > From: Jennie <mykidshisgift@...>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> > Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 7:26 AM

> > Hi Pepper!! I respect your opinion! But belonging to several

> > groups with thousands of parents and there vaccine injured

> > children wouldnt agree with you!!

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> Correlation does not imply causation!!!!

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> Please dont encourage

> > vaccines until you recommend the parents research

> > greatly(you are putting lives at risk)!! We almost lost our

> > son to them and no he isnt a rare case(SID's is just one

> > example)!! My sons " seizures " started just after

> > his first MMR!

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> Again, correlation does not imply causation!!!

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> In knowing this little part MMR/Vaccines, our

> > son is just about considered seizure free due to the

> > research/knowledge of the vaccine part and then the

> > healing/recovery part! My poor little guy has been through

> > hell as many other children due to vaccines!!

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> Many, many lives have been saved because of vaccines!! Smallpox has been wiped

out because of them!!

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> > but many, many die from vaccines and if they dont die have

> > serious medical issues for the shorter life they have!!

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> Do you have ANY proof?? Real, published scientific research?? I doubt it!!

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My son's neurologist diagnosed him with ADEM, with the cause being vaccinations.

Are you doubting the diagnosis of a qualified and recognized pediatric

neurologist, who we were referred to by one of the heads of the Brain Institute

at Miami Children's Hospital?

I would hope you would not be brazen enough to try....

Coterillo

---- Pepper <hey_pep@...> wrote:

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> > From: Rae Lynne <raelynnestewart@...>

> > Subject: RE: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> > Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 8:30 AM

> > I completely disagree with you. My daughter's epilepsy

> > is a direct correlation and has been tracked back to her

> > vaccinations.

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> Is there any evidence or proof that vaccinations cause epilepsy? It's not a

matter of agreeing with me or disagreeing with me. It's a matter of the facts.

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> > We no longer vaccinate our children and I am

> > so thrilled for the many hundreds of hours of research that

> > I and my husband have done for our children and many others.

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> So, do you have any studies published in scientific journals that show

vaccinations cause epilepsy?

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> Pepper

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- I happen to agree with your position (and Jennie's), but I'd urge you and

Jennie to exercise some restraint here. Surely you've dealt with yeast and/or

bad bacteria in the gut (as many of us have) and are well aware that feeding the

yeast and the bad bugs is the worst thing you can do. The same holds true

with certain types of people who participate in chat groups and message boards -

they thrive on being fed. They are not nearly as interested in the subject

matter as much as they are in getting their fix of drama and satisfaction in

knowing they are getting a rise out of someone. Starve them of what they need

and they will eventually go away. Just like yeast and bad gut bacteria.

Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> > Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 7:26 AM

> > Hi Pepper!! I respect your opinion! But belonging to several

> > groups with thousands of parents and there vaccine injured

> > children wouldnt agree with you!!

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> Correlation does not imply causation!!!!

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> Please dont encourage

> > vaccines until you recommend the parents research

> > greatly(you are putting lives at risk)!! We almost lost our

> > son to them and no he isnt a rare case(SID's is just one

> > example)!! My sons " seizures " started just after

> > his first MMR!

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> Again, correlation does not imply causation!!!

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> In knowing this little part MMR/Vaccines, our

> > son is just about considered seizure free due to the

> > research/knowledge of the vaccine part and then the

> > healing/recovery part! My poor little guy has been through

> > hell as many other children due to vaccines!!

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> Many, many lives have been saved because of vaccines!! Smallpox has been

wiped out because of them!!

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> > but many, many die from vaccines and if they dont die have

> > serious medical issues for the shorter life they have!!

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> Do you have ANY proof?? Real, published scientific research?? I doubt it!!

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> Pepper

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[Guest guest]

1. I never claimed vaccinations are 100% safe.

2. Though I might slip up once in a while, I've made it my policy not to comment

on individual cases. (Especially women's kids.)

Pepper

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> > > From: Rae Lynne

> <raelynnestewart@...>

> > > Subject: RE: [ ] Re: VACCINES!!

> PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> > > Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 8:30 AM

> > > I completely disagree with you. My

> daughter's epilepsy

> > > is a direct correlation and has been tracked back

> to her

> > > vaccinations.

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> > Is there any evidence or proof that vaccinations cause

> epilepsy? It's not a matter of agreeing with me or

> disagreeing with me. It's a matter of the facts.

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> > > We no longer vaccinate our children and I am

> > > so thrilled for the many hundreds of hours of

> research that

> > > I and my husband have done for our children and

> many others.

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> > So, do you have any studies published in scientific

> journals that show vaccinations cause epilepsy?

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> > Pepper

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> You are by far outnumbered in

> your opinions, so it might be better to keep your comments

> to yourself regarding this subject.

That doesn't change the facts. What shape was the earth when most people thought

it was flat?

Pepper

[Guest guest]

Bingo!! Most people including the scientists of that time did think the world

was flat, you are write! Just like most think the vaccines are safe(flat) now!

There are no ligit facts the vaccines work!

> You are by far outnumbered in

> your opinions, so it might be better to keep your comments

> to yourself regarding this subject.

That doesn't change the facts. What shape was the earth when most people thought

it was flat?

Pepper

[Guest guest]

Pepper:

As you know, there is a multitude of information out there both for and against

vaccinations. In this country, it is our right (legal and moral) to decide for

ourselves what is right for our children. Those of us with vaccine injured

children know that vaccines are wrong/bad for our kids. Why do you continue to

degrade and attack us? Everyone is entitled to their opinion...what is right

for you does not have to be right for us (and visa versa). Please accept this

fact and let's move on (once again).

Coterillo

---- Jennie <mykidshisgift@...> wrote:

> Bingo!! Most people including the scientists of that time did think the world

was flat, you are write! Just like most think the vaccines are safe(flat) now!

There are no ligit facts the vaccines work!

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If Im a joke and it brings a smile to a very very sad, angry, miserable bully,

than I am proud to say , Im a joke. You are such an angry person, Im so

sorry you have to live that way!! I doubt you are even here due to siezures! But

you are in my prayers! As much as you seem to hate me, I dont hate you and do

care about you! Im not leaving the group Pepper as you have so successfully

accomplished with other members! Is it your concience that makes you do this?

Are you personally responsible some how for injections to our helpless children?

Denial wont make it go away! And what the heck does my grammer have to do with

anything! I am fine with my grammer, sorry if that offends you(my grammer). You

are sooooooooooo sensitive/angry that something so silly sets you off?? World

population?? Your fear makes you attack me!! That is ok!! You still need to show

me your facts that vaccines work!! And please leave the others alone in this

group! They havent

done nothing to you! Remember, I consider you a blessing!! I learn so much more

about vaccines and the dangers/worthlessness of vaccines everytime you attack

me!! GOD knows what he is doing!! Just dont drink any anti freeze, as you

mentioned wine is probably better(you dont seem to think there is much

difference between the 2)!! But yea they both can be toxic!! Jennie<>< ps. I

have been so mentally exhausted these last few months, my son's hardships are

the most difficult thing I have had to endure in my life. So thank you Pepper

for waking me up and giving me the will to continue the research and spreading

the knowledge!!

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[Guest guest]

> From: Jennie <mykidshisgift@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 3:22 PM

> If Im a joke and it brings a smile to a very very sad,

> angry, miserable bully,

Why do you feel the need to attack me, personally?

> Are you personally responsible some how for injections to

> our helpless children? Denial wont make it go away!

LOL. Yeah, I go down the street injecting helpless children. I find when people

have no real argument, they start dragging in " the children " .

> And

> what the heck does my grammer have to do with anything! I am

> fine with my grammer, sorry if that offends you(my grammer).

It's just that ewe sew constantly use the wrong homophone, eye wonder if its a

joke. Is it?

> You are sooooooooooo sensitive/angry that something so silly

> sets you off??

Spot the irony.

> World population?? Your fear makes you attack

> me!!

This makes no sense. Why would I fear the world population?

>That is ok!! You still need to show me your facts that

> vaccines work!!

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/news/newsltrs/imwrks/default.htm

> And please leave the others alone in this

> group! They havent

> done nothing to you!

I have not attacked them personally, despite being personally attacked. I am

discussing the info/opinions they provide. This is a discussion group, isn't it?

>Just dont drink any anti

> freeze, as you mentioned wine is probably better(you dont

> seem to think there is much difference between the 2)!!

But

> yea they both can be toxic!!

Yep. It depends on the amounts.

Pepper

[Guest guest]

Hi Pepper!! Im sorry for the attack response!! It was wrong and I do

feel bad, but you have been real hard on me!! Maybe you dont realize

how you come accross on the posts! But you have poked fun of me quite

a bit. 2 wrongs dont make it write. You have called me a joke,

insulted my grammer etc. Im letting it go and do apologize, I think

we can accomplish a lot more here if the slander stops. So I stop!!

Take care and I really really hope/wish that I am wrong when it comes

to vaccines but feel Im not, but respect that you dont agree!

Jennie<><

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> > From: Jennie <mykidshisgift@...>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> > Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 3:22 PM

> > If Im a joke and it brings a smile to a very very sad,

> > angry, miserable bully,

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> Why do you feel the need to attack me, personally?

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> > Are you personally responsible some how for injections to

> > our helpless children? Denial wont make it go away!

>

> LOL. Yeah, I go down the street injecting helpless children. I find

when people have no real argument, they start dragging in " the

children " .

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> > And

> > what the heck does my grammer have to do with anything! I am

> > fine with my grammer, sorry if that offends you(my grammer).

>

> It's just that ewe sew constantly use the wrong homophone, eye

wonder if its a joke. Is it?

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> > You are sooooooooooo sensitive/angry that something so silly

> > sets you off??

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> Spot the irony.

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> > World population?? Your fear makes you attack

> > me!!

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> This makes no sense. Why would I fear the world population?

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> >That is ok!! You still need to show me your facts that

> > vaccines work!!

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> http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/news/newsltrs/imwrks/default.htm

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> > And please leave the others alone in this

> > group! They havent

> > done nothing to you!

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> I have not attacked them personally, despite being personally

attacked. I am discussing the info/opinions they provide. This is a

discussion group, isn't it?

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> >Just dont drink any anti

> > freeze, as you mentioned wine is probably better(you dont

> > seem to think there is much difference between the 2)!!

> But

> > yea they both can be toxic!!

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> Yep. It depends on the amounts.

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> Pepper

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[Guest guest]

> From: Jennie <mykidshisgift@...>

> Subject: [ ] Re: VACCINES!! PLEASE ADVICE ME!!

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> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 7:01 PM

> Hi Pepper!! Im sorry for the attack response!!

Thanks for admitting it.

It was wrong

> and I do

> feel bad, but you have been real hard on me!! Maybe you

> dont realize

> how you come accross on the posts! But you have poked fun

> of me quite

> a bit.

I've poked fun of some of what you've said, and I am sorry if that has upset

you. If I'm going to contradict the info you present, I'll do it in a straight

forward manner. But, I have avoided commenting on people's personal tragedies

BECAUSE I don't want to be mean.

2 wrongs dont make it write. You have called me a

> joke,

Because you wouldn't give a straight forward answer about you world population

statement. And when I asked about it, I said that if you wouldn't give me an

answer, I'd assume you are a joke. But I apologize.

> insulted my grammer etc. Im letting it go and do apologize,

> I think

> we can accomplish a lot more here if the slander stops. So

> I stop!!

> Take care and I really really hope/wish that I am wrong

> when it comes

> to vaccines but feel Im not, but respect that you dont

> agree!

Deal.

Pepper

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, what is the olive leaf for?  Just curious . . .