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In a message dated 7/5/2004 5:01:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

alleypat@... writes:

I had hep C as a dependent prior to having coverage on both Cigna and United

Health Care and have never had a problem getting coverage (this is thru my

husband's insurance at work). Is that what you are asking? I'm sure I've had

others in the interim, even as an employee, I just don't remember them all.

Companies change and their ins chagnes all the time. Never had a

I had my own health insurance (self-employed). They didn't drop me, they

just made the rates unaffordable. It didn't make that much difference to me,

because the hospital responsible for me having the disease foots the bill.

Anne

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In a message dated 7/5/2004 9:40:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

psita@... writes:

Our group insurance is not going to write insurance for small groups any

longer. Our work is here on the horse farm, just the two of us, different than

a

large or small company. We cannot get any insurance with another carrier

because we both have pre-existing conditions. It would be new coverage and they

have the right to turn us down and have done so. This is different than being

added to a company as a dependent or a employee. We cannot get individual

policies for the same reason. Terry

Dear Terry,

this is where Hipaa comes through for you. I will assume you are an on-going

business. So look at the employer side of Hipaa. The same rules apply to

you individually. My first recommendation would be to contact Federated Mutual.

You also might want to check with the insurance companies that you insure

your horses, your vehicles, barns, house, etc. If they insure people, too,

you're in luck. IF they don't, definitely contact Federated Mutual. IF you move

all of your business insurance to the same company they will, in all

probability provide at least some health coverage, although you may have to sit

out a

waiting period.

Hope this helps.

Anne

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In a message dated 7/7/2004 6:33:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

psita@... writes:

I have all the information about HIPAA. It covers a maximum of $100,000.00 a

year. The cost is twice that of regular insurance, and the deductible is

$5,000.00. After that it pays about half until a certain point, and then 100%.

It doesn't make sense. One would pay about $20,000.00 to protect yourself

for $100,000.00. I don't want to seem snooty, but we are trying to protect a

lifetime of assets against a possible catastrophic illness other than hep c. I

have minimal damage and considering my age of 60 and how slow the disease

progresses, I am not as worried about that, as I am the unknown. I have seen

what

illness can do to a person, and leave him or her with nothing. I would hate

to have to sell my house I have lived in for 26 years, not to speak of the

farm and horses. We need major medical, and if we can't get it, HIPAA is not

going to help much. Only people who have very expensive horses insure them, and

the company we have everything else with, does not insure people. Thank you

for suggesting Federated Mutual. I will let you know if anything turns up.

Terry

Dear Terry,

True enough. Does your state have the Homestead Act as a part of it's

financial law? If so, you could check into it's maximum. My insurance was

$12,000.00 after diagnosis, so had it been necessary Hippa would have looked

like a

somewhat better deal. You don't sound snooty at all, I understand exactly how

you

feel. I lost my business and my ability to have children, among other

things, all because some fake physician was allowed to pretend to be a

pathologist

for a few years too long. It does help to have at least gone to medical school

before you sign yourself up as an M. D. So you're free to sound as angry as

you feel with me.

Anne

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Yeah, I know things are different in Louisianna...probably all of the deep

south...but I know Louisianna is different from my years racing down there. The

thought just popped into my head about my friends' policy and thought I'd throw

it out.

insurance

Tatezi,

We have been turned down by Blue Cross for a group policy. I have been

denied as an individual, and now we are working on getting a policy for for

three months before medicare, with an exclusionary rider for colorectal cancer,

and not sure even that will work. In Louisiana, even Cobra is not a definite.

The company has the right to choose whether or not to offer it to their

employees. We have an agent. He is my daughter's agent and long time friend.

He handles her business insurance. She is a physical therapist. He deals with

all the companies and knows what he is doing. Terry

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Anne...I forgot that you know all about this insurance stuff...have to remember

that you are a resource for insurance questions.

Tatezi

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Dear Terry,

this is where Hipaa comes through for you. I will assume you are an on-going

business. So look at the employer side of Hipaa. The same rules apply to

you individually. My first recommendation would be to contact Federated Mutual.

You also might want to check with the insurance companies that you insure

your horses, your vehicles, barns, house, etc. If they insure people, too,

you're in luck. IF they don't, definitely contact Federated Mutual. IF you move

all of your business insurance to the same company they will, in all

probability provide at least some health coverage, although you may have to sit

out a

waiting period.

Hope this helps.

Anne

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I've heard this statement about " the disease " progressing slowly before and have

to speak up. There should be no illusitions about the effects of the virus on

our entire body.

The liver damage progresses slowly, but the hep c virus replicates very fast.

(Claudine would have the statistics on this.) Just because one has minimal liver

damage does not affect the viral load and the effects it has on us other than

the liver fibrosis.

*Remember, Hep C is a systemic virus and not a liver disease. "

In the last couple years they have proven that hep c causes brain dementia...and

they are still researching the other effects of the virus. They have a link

between depression and the virus but haven't done enough research yet to prove

that it's caused by the virus and not because of the knowledge that one has a

potentially fatal disease.

The focus on liver damage came first because that's how they started to learn

about Hep C...it's only in recent years as they've been able to slow or even

reverse the fibrosis through treatment that they've been discovering and

researching the effects of the virus, independant of the liver fibrosis.

So yes, the liver fibrosis develops slowly, but the Hep C virus replicates very

quickly...

I have minimal damage and considering my age of 60 and how slow the disease

progresses,

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things, all because some fake physician was allowed to pretend to be a

pathologist

for a few years too long. It does help to have at least gone to medical school

before you sign yourself up as an M. D. So you're free to sound as angry as

you feel with me.

Anne

ROFLMAO....oh sheesh Anne, that was priceless....when I read it I had a mouthful

of water that went flying.....LOL. Unfortunately though, it's so true. And

it's not me that did treatment, you got me and Tats confused....well, I'm always

confused anyway so what the heck?

Willem, it's so true that we have to learn not to be so serious about our

ailments, and I'm not even in love. Your sense of humor is so greatly

appreciated....a little levity goes a long way and I firmly believe it keeps us

alive longer too....as Tatezi has said, being in a positive state of mind helps

in every way possible. That's just my dollar's worth, inflation u know?

huggggs to all

Carol

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things, all because some fake physician was allowed to pretend to be a

pathologist

for a few years too long. It does help to have at least gone to medical school

before you sign yourself up as an M. D. So you're free to sound as angry as

you feel with me.

Anne

ROFLMAO....oh sheesh Anne, that was priceless....when I read it I had a mouthful

of water that went flying.....LOL. Unfortunately though, it's so true. And

it's not me that did treatment, you got me and Tats confused....well, I'm always

confused anyway so what the heck?

Willem, it's so true that we have to learn not to be so serious about our

ailments, and I'm not even in love. Your sense of humor is so greatly

appreciated....a little levity goes a long way and I firmly believe it keeps us

alive longer too....as Tatezi has said, being in a positive state of mind helps

in every way possible. That's just my dollar's worth, inflation u know?

huggggs to all

Carol

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In a message dated 7/7/2004 8:56:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tatezi@... writes:

Anne...I forgot that you know all about this insurance stuff...have to

remember that you are a resource for insurance questions.

Not necessarily, Tat. But I had to do a lot of research in between the time I

was injected and the medical treatment agreement. Consequently, I have some

information. You never know hwo thsese things are going to work out. Plus I

had to do something about my overall health care.

Anne

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In a message dated 7/7/2004 8:56:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tatezi@... writes:

Anne...I forgot that you know all about this insurance stuff...have to

remember that you are a resource for insurance questions.

Not necessarily, Tat. But I had to do a lot of research in between the time I

was injected and the medical treatment agreement. Consequently, I have some

information. You never know hwo thsese things are going to work out. Plus I

had to do something about my overall health care.

Anne

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In a message dated 7/8/2004 12:44:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, csean@...

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ROFLMAO....oh sheesh Anne, that was priceless....when I read it I had a

mouthful of water that went flying.....LOL. Unfortunately though, it's so true.

And it's not me that did treatment, you got me and Tats confused....well, I'm

always confused anyway so what the heck?

Willem, it's so true that we have to learn not to be so serious about our

ailments, and I'm not even in love. Your sense of humor is so greatly

appreciated....a little levity goes a long way and I firmly believe it keeps us

alive

longer too....as Tatezi has said, being in a positive state of mind helps in

every way possible. That's just my dollar's worth, inflation u know?

huggggs to all

Carol

Carol,

i knew TAT was on treatment and somehow I thought you were on treatment

also-oops. We might as well keep a sense of humor about the whole thing. If

you

can't dance and it's too wet to plough, you might as well chuckle every once in

awhile. My usual response when I think about that physician is to go out and

pull weeds and pretend I'm inflicting bodily harm to that person.

Anne

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In a message dated 7/8/2004 12:44:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, csean@...

writes:

ROFLMAO....oh sheesh Anne, that was priceless....when I read it I had a

mouthful of water that went flying.....LOL. Unfortunately though, it's so true.

And it's not me that did treatment, you got me and Tats confused....well, I'm

always confused anyway so what the heck?

Willem, it's so true that we have to learn not to be so serious about our

ailments, and I'm not even in love. Your sense of humor is so greatly

appreciated....a little levity goes a long way and I firmly believe it keeps us

alive

longer too....as Tatezi has said, being in a positive state of mind helps in

every way possible. That's just my dollar's worth, inflation u know?

huggggs to all

Carol

Carol,

i knew TAT was on treatment and somehow I thought you were on treatment

also-oops. We might as well keep a sense of humor about the whole thing. If

you

can't dance and it's too wet to plough, you might as well chuckle every once in

awhile. My usual response when I think about that physician is to go out and

pull weeds and pretend I'm inflicting bodily harm to that person.

Anne

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They do say that laughter is the best medicine <g>

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We might as well keep a sense of humor about the whole thing. If you

can't dance and it's too wet to plough, you might as well chuckle every once in

awhile. My usual response when I think about that physician is to go out and

pull weeds and pretend I'm inflicting bodily harm to that person.

Anne

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They do say that laughter is the best medicine <g>

Re: insurance

We might as well keep a sense of humor about the whole thing. If you

can't dance and it's too wet to plough, you might as well chuckle every once in

awhile. My usual response when I think about that physician is to go out and

pull weeds and pretend I'm inflicting bodily harm to that person.

Anne

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AMEN to that!!!! I think having pets around the house keeps you laffing....even

when cleaning up fur balls. Tatezi sure knows this too ;-) My latest laff

(not) was watching my cat come in through the window with a nice big and oh so

not cute, live mouse in her mouth....which she immediately let loose to play

with.....I now have 4 mouse traps hidden where she can't get them and hope they

get the mouse. LOL. ARGGGGGG

lol Anne...I call the lab dracula's palace which I visit often with a

donation....wahhhhhhh.

huggggs

Carol

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We might as well keep a sense of humor about the whole thing. If you

can't dance and it's too wet to plough, you might as well chuckle every once

in

awhile. My usual response when I think about that physician is to go out and

pull weeds and pretend I'm inflicting bodily harm to that person.

Anne

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AMEN to that!!!! I think having pets around the house keeps you laffing....even

when cleaning up fur balls. Tatezi sure knows this too ;-) My latest laff

(not) was watching my cat come in through the window with a nice big and oh so

not cute, live mouse in her mouth....which she immediately let loose to play

with.....I now have 4 mouse traps hidden where she can't get them and hope they

get the mouse. LOL. ARGGGGGG

lol Anne...I call the lab dracula's palace which I visit often with a

donation....wahhhhhhh.

huggggs

Carol

Re: insurance

We might as well keep a sense of humor about the whole thing. If you

can't dance and it's too wet to plough, you might as well chuckle every once

in

awhile. My usual response when I think about that physician is to go out and

pull weeds and pretend I'm inflicting bodily harm to that person.

Anne

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  • 5 months later...

Congratulations...it the worlds longest endurance race, but you finnaly

won!!!

Insurance

>

>

> Hi All,

> I was asked by several of my " MGB buddies " to let them know when I

> received reimbursement from BCBSNC for the MGB surgery. I decided to tell

> everyone! After fighting BCBSNC for 19 months, I finally received a check

> for the full amount of $17,000.00!!! So--never give up--keep fighting!

> Good luck to everyone. S.

>

>

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That is THE best news I have heard in a long time. I HATE insurance

companies and I especially hate BCBSNC (and the funny thing is I have never

been insured by them). I am SO glad to hear they have changed their tune

about the MGB...GREAT WORK MARY!

V

Insurance

Hi All,

I was asked by several of my " MGB buddies " to let them know when I

received reimbursement from BCBSNC for the MGB surgery. I decided to tell

everyone! After fighting BCBSNC for 19 months, I finally received a check

for the full amount of $17,000.00!!! So--never give up--keep fighting!

Good luck to everyone. S.

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Please tell me what finally change their minds about it being experimental

surgery! I am fighting with BCBS of Alabama - I need some suggestions to begin

again after my last denial. Thanks.

Billie

337/173/???

01/08/2004

Dr. R/Dr. Walsh

High Point, NC

>

> From: " " <shew_88@...>

> Date: 2005/01/03 Mon PM 07:49:33 EST

> < >

> Subject: Insurance

>

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thanks for posting that! I have been turned down several times by Cigna,

even though weight loss surgery is covered. The last appeal, I included copies

of checks that they had paid other mgb patients for the surgery, even though

they say they don't cover the mgb!! Still turned me down. Now I have to get a

lawyer. By the way, I got my company involved and they told them that the other

people had a different surgery. barb dudley, high point, oct 15, 2003, 242,

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Thanks!

Insurance

>

>

>

> Hi All,

> I was asked by several of my " MGB buddies " to let them know when I

> received reimbursement from BCBSNC for the MGB surgery. I decided to tell

> everyone! After fighting BCBSNC for 19 months, I finally received a check

> for the full amount of $17,000.00!!! So--never give up--keep fighting!

> Good luck to everyone. S.

>

>

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WAY TO GO MARY.............................................

PERSISTANCE FINALLY PAID OFF..

Debbie in St. Louis

>From: " " <shew_88@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: Insurance

>Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:02:47 -0500

>

>

>Thanks!

> Insurance

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi All,

> > I was asked by several of my " MGB buddies " to let them know when I

> > received reimbursement from BCBSNC for the MGB surgery. I decided to

>tell

> > everyone! After fighting BCBSNC for 19 months, I finally received a

>check

> > for the full amount of $17,000.00!!! So--never give up--keep fighting!

> > Good luck to everyone. S.

> >

> >

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Thank you!!!

Insurance

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Hi All,

>> > I was asked by several of my " MGB buddies " to let them know when I

>> > received reimbursement from BCBSNC for the MGB surgery. I decided to

>>tell

>> > everyone! After fighting BCBSNC for 19 months, I finally received a

>>check

>> > for the full amount of $17,000.00!!! So--never give up--keep fighting!

>> > Good luck to everyone. S.

>> >

>> >

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Hello,

I have a person who sells malpractice insurance for these devices. I

am not sure if she also has insurance coverage for the device itself,

but I'm willing to bet she does.

If you would like her contact information, please email me at

alisonturner@... and I'll send it to you. I will also

forward her info to you.

Sincerely,

Alison

> Hi All,

> I woul like to know what kind of insurance QX practitioners are

carrying on their equipment. Does everyone have the manufacturer's

warranty or do you all have business/home insurance covering damage,

loss or theft for replacement of the unit? Or does everyone have no

insurance? I would like to know if anyone has had a malfunctioning

box/unit and what they did to alleviate this?

> I am contemplating loaning out my unit and am worried about damage

to the unit. Has anyone done anything like this? Would like some feedback.

> Thanks,

>

>

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