Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 I had horrible reflux prior to surgery, I was taking 2 nexium a day. I had an endoscopy and they saw redness around the opening to the esophagus- when I had my bypass, Dr. R- actually discovered and repaired a hiatal hernia- and they told me I would probably never have reflux again- I am sure my reflux was so bad due to the hernia- I would get a second opinion but apparently it is rare that they will do surgery to repair it- at least that is what I researched on the internet. I am 2 years out and haven't really had any symptoms of reflux - unless I eat late and lay down- I have found that heavy bar b que sauce will bring it on- but I was miserable before they repaired it. >From: " djsunnyheart " <djsunnyheart@...> >Reply- > >Subject: gastritis >Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:03:05 -0000 > >Hi, I'm 5 years post op and just had my first endoscopy done last >week. The doctor said I had gastritis and a hiatal hernia. They >checked for the h pyloria bacteria and that was negative. He told me >to start taking Prilosec every day. I really haven't experienced >heartburn or acid reflux since surgery, but he said I was producing >too much acid in my stomach and that was probably what was causing the >gastritis. He said we didn't have to do anything with the hernia >though. Has anyone else had these problems? >Just wondering, >Diane > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 Yes, I am about 4 and a half years out and just last week was also diagnosed with gastritis after having an endoscope and put on asiphex. I have also suddenly become anemic, which I havent been all this time. I have to have a colonoscopy done this week to see if I may have a bleeder somewhere. Pat Iurato Nevada 3/7/01 gastritis Hi, I'm 5 years post op and just had my first endoscopy done last week. The doctor said I had gastritis and a hiatal hernia. They checked for the h pyloria bacteria and that was negative. He told me to start taking Prilosec every day. I really haven't experienced heartburn or acid reflux since surgery, but he said I was producing too much acid in my stomach and that was probably what was causing the gastritis. He said we didn't have to do anything with the hernia though. Has anyone else had these problems? Just wondering, Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Hiatal Hernia is different than the one she's speaking of. It's a herniated naval. I am having plastic surgery Monday with Dr. Don. Some of the fee is being helped by the fact that surgery is necessary but it doesn't cover the whole surgery. Well, at least that's my situation. I'll post how it goes with my surgery. I'd appreciate any prayers and good vibes! Suzanne Hazelwood High Point-Dr. R 7/17/03 270/164/180 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 good luck Suzanne, keep us posted. IT will be great. barb dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Good Luck Jane. Looks like you have more than your share of issues to deal with. I have had my share recently and I could not imagine dealing with them at my old weight. Beast regards, Markham Lee Jane Brenton <janebrenton@...> wrote: Happy New Year group, About 2 months ago I developed a gut problem reflus, gut cramping hurting with and without food, sometmes eating a little helped sometimes it didn't, frequently waking me up at night, weight loss (have lost more in one week than did in any week during my post surgery weight loss of 3 1/2 years) I went to a gastroentrologist and had all the tests, endoscopy, etc. Found I had severe gastritis, and borderline anemia. The doctor started me on Carafate 1gm QID for 1 month. I have been taking it now for a week and the gut is not improving. I called Dr. R this morning and he recommends d/cing the Carafate and taking Protonix 40mg. TID for 2 weeks, increasing the yogurt to BID, and increasing the fiber. Dr. R told me that MGB'ers with gastritis usually don't respond as well to the carafate as to the protonix given on a stepped up basis. I have now called my gastro back and left a message asking him to call Dr. R and see if he will change my medication regime to the Protonix. Hope this helps anyone else who may be suffering with the same symptoms or who may one day develop them. (I hope you never do, it aint pretty) Will answer questions, be a contact to anyone. It's been 3 1/2 years down from 311 to 135, have had my gallbladder removed, a total knee replacement, d/c'ed my blood pressure medication. Contine to have trouble with arthritis, fibromyalgia, thyroid and depression as well as menapause. Without the surgery, I doubt seriously I could have handled the medical problems as well as I am and still be able to work. Next year we are looking to replace both hips. BTW I am only a young 54, with small children so I gotta keep going. jane brenton dover tn 5-17-02 311/135 and lovin it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 > > So it appears that I may have gastritis or an ulcer. I have talked to dr. R. and have an appointment with my PCP on Friday. I was wondering if others out there who have gone through this can give me some pointers. My PCP told me to eat blandly and that should help reduce some of the symptoms. I have been trying to do that and it has helped some. Can anyone else give me some advice. I am not really enjoying eating blandly. I was eating things like 's chili and such before hand. > > All the best Suzanne > > Dr. R. > Feb 13, 2007 > >> > Life is short, > Break the rules, > Forgive quickly, > Kiss slowly, > Love truly, > Laugh uncontrollably, > And never regret anything that made you smile. > > Hi Suzanne, so sorry to hear your having problems. I did have a brief go round with what may have been the start of an ulcer. I followed Dr R's advice and it was stopped cold. I have never had any further problems. My best advice is to do exactly what Dr R tells you to do. No one knows more about this surgery than it's creator. I do have to say though that a bowl of 's or anyone eles chili or such things on a regular basis would give me a tummy ache. Over 2 1/2 years out. Thoughts are with you, Lyn > > __________________________________________________________________ > Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Thanks Lyn Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile. Re: gastritis > > So it appears that I may have gastritis or an ulcer. I have talked to dr. R. and have an appointment with my PCP on Friday. I was wondering if others out there who have gone through this can give me some pointers. My PCP told me to eat blandly and that should help reduce some of the symptoms. I have been trying to do that and it has helped some. Can anyone else give me some advice. I am not really enjoying eating blandly. I was eating things like 's chili and such before hand. > > All the best Suzanne > > Dr. R. > Feb 13, 2007 > >> > Life is short, > Break the rules, > Forgive quickly, > Kiss slowly, > Love truly, > Laugh uncontrollably, > And never regret anything that made you smile. > > Hi Suzanne, so sorry to hear your having problems. I did have a brief go round with what may have been the start of an ulcer. I followed Dr R's advice and it was stopped cold. I have never had any further problems. My best advice is to do exactly what Dr R tells you to do. No one knows more about this surgery than it's creator. I do have to say though that a bowl of 's or anyone eles chili or such things on a regular basis would give me a tummy ache. Over 2 1/2 years out. Thoughts are with you, Lyn > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger ./ webmessengerprom o.php > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Hi, Sandy - I'm sorry you're having so much trouble. Many surgeons would not have felt you were a good candidate for the Band, with Lupus and other other conditions. It is not for everyone, by any measn. Inamed generally discourages banding with these conditions, for some of the reasons you're finding, i'm afraid. We have to have a very healthy stomach to be able to withstand band pressure. but let's see what we can do to help. First, did you have an H Pylori test for this very common stomach bacteria, before you were banded? It is a common reason for gastritis, although you have many other reasons too. Recent studies are showing that about 60-70% of all those going for WLS have this bacteria, many with no symptoms or only subtle symptoms blamed on something else. It needs to be treated with a 2-week course of antibiotics before banding, to reduce chances of gastritis, stomach cancer , and more. It's a simple blood test, and I'd urge you and everyone else to ask their family docs for it. The treatment now, after banding, would be 2 weeks of LIQUID antibiotics since all antibiotics are very irritating to the GI tissues. About 80% of patients with this bacterial infection have NO symptoms - but you have a full gastritis and burping. Your weight loss has been fine, but you're having too many problems for stomach safety. We want to lose only in a safe and healthy way that does not cause problems, or future problems. Re your statement " The floro showed the band was in the right place, and I could have more fill because I had a great flow through the band. " THis is a big mistake to think this, although I know both Bandsters and some docs still believe this. The fluoro is VERY unreliable as a tool with fills. THis is why so few docs use it routinely with fills, not to mention that is is radiation - and no radiation is entirely safe. A fluoro shows most problems well, but has VERY LITTLE correlation with how much fill we can tolerate. NO MATTER what the fluoro shows, it is what we can eat and what trouble we are having that matters. ANY regular trouble means we need LESS fill, assuming we are following the food choice and eating techniques needed so they are not the problem. Also, 0.5 cc is FAR from a " baby fill " . Getting a whole 1/2 cc this last time was VERY agressive, considering all the trouble you've been having. After the first fill or two, increases around 0.1-0.2 cc are needed - far less than what you felt was a small fill. You're clearly being overfilled, so i'd urge you to talk with the fill person about this, or find a much less-aggressive one. They will need to use a stopcock to measure and give these small amounts. Is your only symptom now the burping? No reflux? No other trouble at all? If you are having ANY reflux or other trouble, I think you have too much fill. Also, with your other medical probvlems, it's possible you'll be able to tolerate less fill than ideal. Remember, we want as LITTLE fill as possible to still do ok, never as much as we can try to tolerate. After almost a year of banding, I know you have learned much better habits, so should be relying much less on the band. We have to self-limit to the 1-1.5 cup max bandster meal, whether or not the band " makes " us stop. If your ONLY symtpoms are the burping, try these things: (in this order) 1. Be sure you're following the med safety needs for bandsters - liquid meds or all cut up smaller than an aspirin, all washed thru with a full glass of fluid, no meds at bedtime, avoid Nsaids if possible (if you must take them, you need to be taking an acid-reducer with them - this alone may be the problem, if you're not. The protonix is good, and you may need it longterm if you need Nsaids long-term. 2. Be sure not to shake things to mix them, and use the blender only on low setting. Whipping air into food causes gas and burping. 3. Avoid all milk products for 2 weeks, as a test. Many people, especially white women, are lactose intolerant. 4. avoid all the other gas-producing foods, and see if that helps: Foods that commonly cause gas include: (it's a long list, so start with avoiding all the veggies and fruits for 2 weeks. If that does not help, avoid the others too, one by one, and for a week's trial before startimng to avoid another) List at the bottom 5. Try a trial of " Bean-o " . It helps digest the beans and other carbs that often cause gas. 6. Please consult a GI doc. Gas can be the sign of more serious GI problems - gallbladder stuff and more. Have you had an endoscopy? That might be wise to actually SEE what is going on. He'll look also at possibilities like Celiac sprue. For more on all this, please see these documents in the files: 1. Band Guide - all the band basics 2. Reflux - signs and symptoms 3. Medication safety issues 4. the fill documents - when do I need more? what is a good fill vs too much? How to help get a good fill. 5. Check this link too, about belching and gas: http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/gas/ I sure Hope some of this helps. please let us know how you are. Sandy r Foods that commonly cause gas include: Certain vegetables, such as: Asparagus Broccoli Brussel sprouts Cabbage Cauliflower Corn Cucumbers Kohlrabi Leeks Onions Peas Peppers Radishes Sauerkraut Turnip Carbonated drinks Beer Red wine Fried and fatty foods Sugars: raffinose, lactose, fructose, and sorbitol Sugar substitutes Beans and other legumes: baked beans, garbanzo (chickpeas), kidney, lentil, lima, navy, pinto Wheat and wheat bran Certain fruits, such as: Apricots Cantaloupe and other melons Prunes Raw apples Milk and other dairy products, including highly fermented cheese Eggs Undigestable fats such as Olestra (found in potato chips) Certain vegetables, such as: Asparagus Broccoli Brussel sprouts Cabbage Cauliflower Corn Cucumbers Kohlrabi Leeks Onions Peas Peppers Radishes Sauerkraut Turnip Carbonated drinks Beer Red wine Fried and fatty foods Sugars: raffinose, lactose, fructose, and sorbitol Sugar substitutes Beans and other legumes: baked beans, garbanzo (chickpeas), kidney, lentil, lima, navy, pinto Wheat and wheat bran Certain fruits, such as: Apricots Cantaloupe and other melons Prunes Raw apples Milk and other dairy products, including highly fermented cheese Eggs Undigestable fats such as Olestra (found in potato chips) - and > > > I have been banded 11 months now. My starting weight was 329 11/07, > surgery was 289 5/30 and I now weigh 240. > > > > I have had gastritis at least 4 times since I was banded. I have stop > taking oral prescriptions that could cause stomach irritations- > Methotrexate. I have also gone down in the amount I take from 8 pills > to .5 cc to .3cc. I do have several autoimmune conditions- asthma, > arthritis, and possible Lupus are some of my medical problems. > > > > I have been unfilled (total or part) more times than I have been filled. > The highest I have ever been was 4 cc in a 10 cc Lap-Band AP. I ended > having to get a total unfill because I ended up getting severe food > poising in Sept. Since that time, I can only handle " baby " > fills of 0.5 cc. On April 23, I got a fill of 0.5 for a total of 3.7 > cc. I went home and went to sleep (I work nights). When I woke up, I > was burping – something I do not normally do. I was felling a catch > while drinking a protein drink. I called the office and was told to > come in on the 27th if I was still having problems. I ended up getting > 0.7 cc remove to bring me to 3.0 cc. Wednesday, my surgeon was speaking > at a support meeting. I asked him if I needed to come back in because I > was still burping. I ended up getting 1 cc remove for a total of 2 cc > in the band. I also had a floro done because I was still getting > liquids caught. The floro showed the band was in the right place, and I > could have more fill because I had a great flow through the band. I am > not burping as much. The PA thought that my gastritis has come back and > to take Protonix twice a day. > > > > Is there a way to avoid getting gastritis? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Sandy R- Many surgeons would not have felt you were a good candidate for the Band, with Lupus and other other conditions. I was originally scheduled for RNY, but when I informed the doctor that a double stranded DNA test came back extremely high for Lupus, he change me to a Lap-Band. He had full knowledge of my medical problems. I will be honest, I did inform him of the blood work 13 day prior to scheduled surgery- that was when I found out the test results. First, did you have an H Pylori test for this very common stomach bacteria, before you were banded?  I have been tested for H Pylori at least three times- all neg. One was the breath test, twice with an endoscope biopsy.  Re your statement " The floro showed the band was in the right place, and I could have more fill because I had a great flow through the band. " This is a big mistake to think this, although I know both Bandsters and some docs still believe this. I did not go back and get more put in. It was the remark that the PA told me. The last fluoro was done in Sept.  Also, 0.5 cc is FAR from a " baby fill " . Getting a whole 1/2 cc this last time was VERY aggressive  For my doctor, 0.5 cc is a baby fill. He normally give 1 cc in the newer bands.  Is your only symptom now the burping? No reflux? No other trouble at all? If you are having ANY reflux or other trouble, I think you have too much fill.  I had GERD before surgery, and still got it. I have had chronic discomfort in the upper part of the abdomen.  Please consult a GI doc. Gas can be the sign of more serious GI problems - gallbladder stuff and more. Have you had an endoscopy? That might be wise to actually SEE what is going on. He'll look also at possibilities like Celiac sprue  I have had three- one before surgery to make sure it was safe to have RNY, a biopsy for H Pylori was done. The stomach and the first part of the intestines were fine. The second in Sept. showed erosion and severe gastritis- bright cherry red. He also found a polyp in the beginning of the small intestines. I was re-scoped in Dec. to remove the polyp and the stomach lining was normal.  Be sure you're following the med safety needs for bandsters - liquid meds or all cut up smaller than an aspirin, all washed thru with a full glass of fluid, no meds at bedtime, avoid Nsaids if possible  All my meds are smaller than an aspirin- the larges non-chewable is the folic acid and Protonix. I am not taking any NSAIDS.  I do not use the blender to mix things.  I do not normally drink milk.  I do not eat a lot of veggie or carbs.   Please consult a GI doc. Gas can be the sign of more serious GI problems - gallbladder stuff and more  I have consult a GI doc- he is the one that did the scopes. I do not have a gallbladder. He has told me that he cannot do anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 thanks for these Sally - alpha lipoic acid is something we've not tried. Tom does love a glass of red wine also - he'll be happy with that one. The bugger here is - this is the diet he already follows. Hope he doesnt have sarcoid as that's given as a rare cause. He didnt have h pylori last time we tested but he often has parasites. Will investigate that. Doesnt seem to mention low stomach acid as reflux cause, which is odd. Perhaps I missed it > > http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/gastritis-000067.htm > > Right down the bottom it says Dox used to recommend bland foods like > milk but now ....................and lists some suggestions > Sally > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Mmmm, who could he have gotten this idea from???? Tom does love a glass of red wine also - he'll be happy with that one. > > http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/gastritis-000067.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 If I or my son, hfa, get gastritis, then once I have worked out that that is the problem, I prescribe rest and sips of water and milk. It clears up in a day. Stress is behind it, so that has to be removed too, I'm good at that now... I know if it is gastritis because there are griping pains in the stomach which come and go. Also the appetite is normal, no feeling ill apart from the pains. I had to self diagnose, but I was right > > http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/gastritis-000067.htm > > Right down the bottom it says Dox used to recommend bland foods like > milk but now ....................and lists some suggestions > Sally > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 that's really helpful. 3 hours with no meltdown now. He's subsisting on peeled cucumber and chamomile tea. Fingers crossed x > > Hi Steph, > > When I got it both times I felt a growing pain. I remember sitting in the car and wondering when I would get it next. I think it comes on rather like a contraction, from memory on both counts!, so once it starts coming on I would just sit there while it griped and I would wait until it tailed off again. The pains came on every 10 minutes or so, from memory. > > I didn't feel sick or ill, in fact I wanted to eat normally. With my son I thought it might be a bug so had him on no food just water for a day or so, but this standard treatment for stomach/gut bugs doesn't help with our gastritis. > > Knowing what it is helps so much! I didn't go to the doctor the first time it happened because I thought my son had a bug, though he did say he had sharp, spikey pains right from the start. I don't generally take someone with anything contagious to the doctor's surgery. I just had a sudden thought about the word gastritis, looked it up on google and saw the milk suggestion and tried it after discussing it with my son. Bingo! So it might be something else entirely which just happens to be cured by sips of milk. > > Then I deregistered him from school, which had been the cause of the stress all along > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 FANTASTIC! Yes, everything possible crossed for you. Sara xxx stephaniesirr wrote: > > > that's really helpful. 3 hours with no meltdown now. He's subsisting > on peeled cucumber and chamomile tea. Fingers crossed > > x > > > > > > Hi Steph, > > > > When I got it both times I felt a growing pain. I remember sitting > in the car and wondering when I would get it next. I think it comes on > rather like a contraction, from memory on both counts!, so once it > starts coming on I would just sit there while it griped and I would > wait until it tailed off again. The pains came on every 10 minutes or > so, from memory. > > > > I didn't feel sick or ill, in fact I wanted to eat normally. With my > son I thought it might be a bug so had him on no food just water for a > day or so, but this standard treatment for stomach/gut bugs doesn't > help with our gastritis. > > > > Knowing what it is helps so much! I didn't go to the doctor the > first time it happened because I thought my son had a bug, though he > did say he had sharp, spikey pains right from the start. I don't > generally take someone with anything contagious to the doctor's > surgery. I just had a sudden thought about the word gastritis, looked > it up on google and saw the milk suggestion and tried it after > discussing it with my son. Bingo! So it might be something else > entirely which just happens to be cured by sips of milk. > > > > Then I deregistered him from school, which had been the cause of the > stress all along > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 > > > > Hello > > sometimes I get gastritis is there anything I can take > > dont get heartburn - if mix foods, like this afternoon for Christmas party had > salmon crackers, roasted almonds, and a few other snacks ---- not good to > mix....... oh well > > also, question: is there " good " bacteria in your stomach, or where is is > located? or is enzymes from pancreas what your looking for > +++Hi , Those foods do cause gastric problems and the only choice is to wait it out until they are eliminated. I don't know of good bacteria in the stomach. Digestion depends upon digestive enzymes produced in the mouth, hydrochloric acid produced in the stomach and digestive enzymes produced by the pancreas. Read this article on Stomach Acid so you understand how digestion works: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig14.php Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2010 Report Share Posted December 25, 2010 Dear Bee Still cant get my stomach pain to subside - inflammation upper ab and down left side of intestine. I guess this is gastritis also, and some nodular swelling. Is there excess acid here. Is sauerkraut ok I definately dont need HCl - even 1/2 capsule 30 mins after meal and will burn for 30 minutes or more. But I do get gas immediately after eating 1 minute in. My stools are very small, round, quite hard. I was taking ginger juice, lemon, sea salt prior to meals was working quite well thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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