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>Melinda Wiman wrote:

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>> also, do you use only herbs, or do you also use laetrile or other

>> supplements?

>>

>> Thanks again,

>> Melinda

>

>

>Dear Melinda,

>

>Herbs are used to change the body so that it produces a normal cell

>count. Laetrile is used when we need to remove existing cancer cells

>and tumors. It should be understood that alone Laetrile does not cure

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Joe, I am interested in your experience with Dr. Zhang. Did you go to

him in person or just order the supplements? Do you take anything

else besides his herbs? Arlene

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Here is a very good site to research your herbs;

http://www.vitamins.com/encyclopedia/Index/HERBX.HTM

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Does anyone know anything about the herbs Burdock and Black Cohosh. I have

been using this menopause cream and have had to go off it after 2 weeks.

Here we go again. How come I am so sensetative. The last 2 days I have had

pecular and frightening heart beats and problems and really hyper, so much

energy, and yesterday sweating all day long and then at lunch I was zapped.

Now I have this darkness around my eyes and tired. It got rid of my meno

headaches okay but now they are back since being off the cream. I am just

waiting for my tests to come back to go on progesterone cream. Such is life.

Oh to be so healthy that you can jog and exercise. Sherry

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Does anyone know anything about the herbs Burdock and Black Cohosh. I have

been using this menopause cream and have had to go off it after 2 weeks.

Here we go again. How come I am so sensetative. The last 2 days I have had

pecular and frightening heart beats and problems and really hyper, so much

energy, and yesterday sweating all day long and then at lunch I was zapped.

Now I have this darkness around my eyes and tired. It got rid of my meno

headaches okay but now they are back since being off the cream. I am just

waiting for my tests to come back to go on progesterone cream. Such is life.

Oh to be so healthy that you can jog and exercise. Sherry

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> Does anyone know anything about the herbs Burdock and Black Cohosh. I have

Sherry

Just to mention that Burdock tea/extract is on our avoid list. Good luck

and keep the faith. This too shall pass.

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Hi Sherry!

Sorry to hear you are not doing OK.

From " Advanced Treatise in Herbology " by Shook I found:

BURDOCK;

Properties: Alterative (modifies nutrition), aperient (mild purgative),

depurative, diuretic, diaphoretic (herbs that produce sweating),

antiscorbutic.

Uses: Rheumatism, gout, pulmonary catarrh, chronic skin diseases (psoriasis,

acne, etc.) syphilis, scrofula, cancer, urinary deposits.

Externally: Swelling, hemorrhoids, burns, wounds, eruptions.

It has a 40% of inulin (also called alantoin). It is very similar to starch.

It is a resinoid or camphor-like hydrocarbon that is aromatic, stimulant,

expectorant, tonic, stomachic, antiseptic.

BLACK COHOSH:

Therapeutic Properties: Nervine, tonic, antispasmodic, alterative, diuretic,

expectorant, emmenagogue (remedies which stimulate menstruation) and induces

free perspiration.

Get well!

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I didn't even look on the avoid list as I didn't remember it being on their.

That will teach me. Thank you. Sherry

>Sherry

>Just to mention that Burdock tea/extract is on our avoid list. Good luck

>and keep the faith. This too shall pass.

>

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>Here is a very good site to research your herbs;

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>http://www.vitamins.com/encyclopedia/Index/HERBX.HTM

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Hi Sherry!

>Sorry to hear you are not doing OK.

>From " Advanced Treatise in Herbology " by Shook I found:

>BURDOCK;

>Properties: Alterative (modifies nutrition), aperient (mild purgative),

>depurative, diuretic, diaphoretic (herbs that produce sweating),

>antiscorbutic.

>Uses: Rheumatism, gout, pulmonary catarrh, chronic skin diseases

>(psoriasis,

>acne, etc.) syphilis, scrofula, cancer, urinary deposits.

>Externally: Swelling, hemorrhoids, burns, wounds, eruptions.

>It has a 40% of inulin (also called alantoin). It is very similar to

>starch.

>It is a resinoid or camphor-like hydrocarbon that is aromatic, stimulant,

>expectorant, tonic, stomachic, antiseptic.

>BLACK COHOSH:

>Therapeutic Properties: Nervine, tonic, antispasmodic, alterative,

>diuretic,

>expectorant, emmenagogue (remedies which stimulate menstruation) and

>induces

>free perspiration.

>Get well!

>

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So you have read the same info about rosemary? In the herbal materia medica

that Hoffman writes he didn't mention any cautions about rosemary. I have

heard conflicting info about rosemary. It seems to really work well for me

personally. I infuse a " stalk " about 8 or 9 inches long in water to make tea

and usually drink this about in a day or two. I wonder what " large " amounts

would be? I would also love to see the research on this herb.

Thanks for your response and happy new year!

Angie

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In a message dated 2/5/01 10:19:25 AM Central Standard Time, margaret.white@... writes:

What is a concoction please?

It's a very concentrated version of a tincture or tea. Usually thick and syrupy, doesn't usually contain alcohol (my one drawback on tinctures). You will find chinese herbals usually in this form (like Teng Qi (dong qui)).

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Does anyone know if liquid forms of herbs are better than pill forms? I

found that the liquid works for me but anything in a pill form doesn't seem

to have any affect. Am I digesting the pills? I am currently taking

propolis for an infection and the pills did not work at all but as soon as

I got the liquid form I got results in 24 hours.

Margaret White

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Thank you for this...It explains a lot! One question... how do I know when

to use the different methods? Is there a rule or does it depend on what I

am curing and if I need the plant itself or the just the tincture? I have

many wonderful resources but they don't tell me what form to buy just the

herb itself. Thanks again.

Margaret White

" Phyllis "

<georgic@sals " Clarity "

<clarity@...>, <Vaccinations >

giver.com> cc: " Vac_Homeopathic List "

<Vac_HomeopathicListonelist>

Subject: herbs

02/06/2001

02:49 PM

Please

respond to

Vaccinations

Dear Margaret,

I must agree with you.

Tinctures (liquid) forms of herbs are only the tincted (color) of the herbs

in the distilled water or the alcohol or a mixture of each....This is

similar to a tea bag in hot water.... There is nothing of the original

body

of the herb. These are in the capsule form. In the capsule there is the

ground up materials of the herb..i.e. leaves, flowers, buds, blossoms,

berries, fruits, stems, roots, or resums (tuber root bulbs) of the

medicinal

herb. There are many benefits of one that is not in the other and visa

versa. There are times when you need to eat the herb raw. Infusions of

the flowers of red clover make a wonderful tasting and beneficial tea when

making it from fresh picked flower verses the dried flowers that would be

sold in bulk or in a tea bag.... Swallowing the dried herbs in the capsule

form may be a quick method of consuming the " body " of the herbs, but many

benefits are lost because you are not obtaining the enzymes that would be

conferred through the live plant. Taking that plant and pouring hot water

over it while it is just picked, fresh and raw also may loose some of the

benefits. Eating the Herb raw is the best method,....but many of the

herbs

are difficult for humans to consume just chewing and swallowing that raw

material... The dried material is now dead and has lost many medicinal

conponents.... Drinking the infusion in hot water extracts only a small

portion of the essence of that live material..... Eating after it has been

boiled or anything that was floating in the infusion is best to do, but

again may still be difficult to digest properly.. Must of the celluose is

just roughage in the intestine and thus the benefits are wasted.... The

only real methods that I have found to use HERBS is in the spagyric herbal

technique that I had spoke of earlier last week. Since the product is oft

time made as an infusion but eh benefits of the mineral content is

reintroduced into the tincture, this makes it much better for the system

and

for the pocketbook to boot. Since you need not drink 6 to 8 ounces of it

as

you would have to do in tea (infusion) form... Or the large amount of

celluose that must be consumed by swallowing several capsules of the herb

as

the dose..... Two to five drops of the spagyric herbal essence is equal to

several ounces of the infusionor several capsules of the celluose fibre.

As

a homeopath, who uses homeopathic remedies to do the stimualtion to the

systems in sympathy to its symtomology, I want an herbal that is quick

acting, with a little chemistry as possible, with the most benefit from the

herbal that may not interfer with the homeopathic remedy, I opt for using

spagyrics...

From: <margaret.white@...>

>

> Does anyone know if liquid forms of herbs are better than pill forms? I

> found that the liquid works for me but anything in a pill form doesn't

seem

> to have any affect. Am I digesting the pills? I am currently taking

> propolis for an infection and the pills did not work at all but as soon

as

> I got the liquid form I got results in 24 hours.

>

> Margaret White

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Thanks again. I am working on healing myself from a several things that

are not currently severe but could be if left uncured for. Because I do

not have a lot of money, I cannot see my natural healing doctor as much as

I would like and so far it seems like he is guessing as much as I, trying

to find the solution that will work. I guess it is a matter of finding

what works for me. I appreciate your help.

Blessings Be.

Margaret White

" Phyllis "

<georgic@sals <Vaccinations >

giver.com> cc:

Subject: herbs

02/06/2001

08:59 PM

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Vaccinations

Margaret,

It is really the judgment of the Practitioner that you use or you will just

have to use your own judgment.....testing the situation for yourself.

Everyone is different and your needs may be ones that are different from

someone else's... I explained that herbal spagyrics are my methods of

using

homeopathic remedies and herbs,....but I only use them as tonics or as need

for immediate situations. I do drink herbal teas of fresh and of dried

flowers as food but hardly ever as medicine.... I love a tea of fresh

Chrysanthemum flowers. It is delightful with a natural sweetness. Fresh

Red Clover flower tea is my second choice. I do not necessarily use them

medicinally even though both have those applications. I like them as

beverages. I drink the occasionally... I never overdo any foods or

beverages that are medicinal... This is the suggestion that I also make

to

others. There are homeopathic remedies of these and other herbs and foods

such as garlic, onions, chamomile, coffee, tea, cow's milk, sugar,

echinacea to name a few. Overdoing any of these foods or herbs will cause

the problems that they are set to heal. So be always vigilant when it

comes

to herbals as you would with drug therapies...

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In a message dated 01-03-14 11:41:11 EST, you write:

<<

I spent Sunday making dandelion tea from the roots of dandelion I dug

up. >>

i`m in zone 7....and my dandelions are sleeping....can you still use the

roots for tea? please tell me how you did it.....

thanks,

another old hippie-chick, though, now, I wear a bra......

debmc

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In a message dated 3/14/01 11:41:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,

the14th_moon@... writes:

<< Hi

I spent Sunday making dandelion tea from the roots of dandelion I dug

up. My husband started drinking a quart a day on Monday and swears he

feels better. He's hot to plant a field of the stuff!! From what I've

read it is a very beneficial plant. There are several other things I

want to try.

Yes, guess we do sound 60's...actually I am just an older version of the

hippy I was in the 60's...a bit wiser I hope.

~enjoy

>>

Me too, Moon. I don't feel a bit older (until I look in the mirror). Don't

worry about planting a field of dandilions. They will spread on their own!

You can also get it in tablet form you know. Tree (were you at Woodstock?

-- in '69 that is)

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In a message dated 11/11/2001 3:57:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,

circlen@... writes:

I played with dried & powdered lavender and rosemary in a body powder. First

few batches were too strong.....too grainy. Nice now tho, now that I've

added more cornstarch and baking soda.

Barb J

Idaho

hi all, i was just checking out the new powdered herbs on

> stuffjulielikes.com and they look so cool! has anyone out there

> every experimented with them in cpop and if so when do you add, how

> much ,etc. give me the scoop! thanks, melissa

>

>

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Dear Beverly,

Below I am pasting in portions of an e mail I just got

from an old friend I hadn't seen in 20 years who is

now a chiropractor. This is the complementary

protocol he was advising, after I explained my

condition to him. As far as specific veggies,

radishes, and cultivated burdock are good for the

liver. Dandelion roots are good. Figs are the highest

source of minerals of any of the common fruits and

vegetables, and also a rich source of the same

polyphenols found in green tea and red wine, without

the caffeine and alcohol. Freshly ground flaxseeds

and some ginger are also excellent.

>>So, eat mostly fruits and veggies, of all sorts,

organic when possible, water as the majority beverage,

and whole grains. I am not big on cow products

because of the mucus factor and the sluggishness it

cause the liver and mucus membranes. But you have to

get protein somewhere...it looks to me like you need

more complete protein. Tofu and other soy products

would be best. I assume that you are still a

vegetarian.

Regarding suplementation: 1) Daily; take a

broad spectrum, high potency multivit and min. combo,

such as Multigenics Intensive Care. 2)

Hepatacin...2-3 tabs , 2-3 tomes per day;This is an

ayurvedic herbal preparation for liver health and

regeneration...it is documented to be of value inn

Hep... two of these tabs supply a proprietary blend of

4:1 herbal extracts...1000mg of Hellebore Root,

Spreading Hog Weed Whole Plant, Andrographis Aerial

Parts, Chicory Seed, Ginger Rhizome, Amla Fruit,

Indian Gall Fruit, Embellia Fruit, Phyllanthus Aerial

Parts, Trailing Eclipta Leaf and Root and Arjuna

Myrobalan Bark. 3) Lipogen...1-2 tabs each meal...this

is a gereat lipotrophic formula for the support of

liver function 4) 4-6000 mg of vit C to increase the

functional immune syst. stimulating properties. 5)

Lipoic Acid...2-3 caps per day 2-3 times daily 6)

Silymarin 80 2 tabs 3 times per day... This has Milk

Thistle Seed Extract 7) And finally Selanese 2 caps

3X. This #6 combo protect the liver from free

radicals, they are antioxidants that that interfere

with viral proliferation. It has some sucessful

clinical trials backing it up.

Well that is about it. I would add that since

the spinal nerves do everything and go everywhere

including your liver and the immune system that you

find a chiropractor to work on your spine with the

intention of stimulating and impulsing the spinal

nerves that go to the liver as well as spleen. The

nervous system is the master system of the body. <<

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Terina,

I use herbs all the time, in salad, soup, meats,

burritos, pancakes, protein drinks....you get the

idea. I have an herb garden and a mint garden. I use

all of the regulars....thyme, basil, oregeno, dill,

majoram, rosemary, sage - I love pineapple sage -

chamomile, feverfew, cilantro, parsley, etc....I also

love peppermint and chocolate mint in puddings and

chocolate shakes. I use anise seeds in vanilla,

Stevia on just about anything I want to sweeten up and

fennel in spaghetti sauce. I don't think one can go

wrong with herbs.

C

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At 02:34 AM 7/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:

>With this information in mind dont you all think we should actively keep

>the sick alive longer to do their duty like bring up thier children. With

>the current controvesay on availability of and affordabilty of ARVs it is

>time to seriuisly look into the herbal optioin. There is urgent need for

>the public to have information on the herbs being used. Most of them are

>dealing effectively on opportunistic infections and some have been known

>to raise the CD4 count. Is there a way research can be done to put some

>light on this issue lest we loose all productive people including our

>beloved AIDS treatments network

I could not agree more! This is the reason the Foundation for Integrative

AIDS Research (FIAR) was born!!

M.

Director, FIAR

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I don't think you are poisoning yourself but you are wasting your

money. Taking licorice to treat CFS is complicated and requires that

you follow a set plan of action. For more info see:

http://www.deafwhale.com/cfs/

Dave

> Which company can you buy safe herbs from? I just took 3 capsules

of licorice from China from Vitamin World. I am poisoning my own

body! joyce jamkaye@m...

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When milk thistle, or any other herb, can be proved scientifically

that it helps the liver or does anything to help hepC I will believe

it. Until then I won't.

Herbs are not regulated by the FDA so they can stick anything they

want to in them. They do not have to list their ingredients on the

bottle. One never knows how much milk thistle, or any other herb, is

actually in a bottle.

I've never seen one single person say the milk thistle reduced liver

damage, or lowered a viral load. Like the liver enzymes themselves,

the viral load fluctuates naturally. Both go up and down. Neither are

a good gauge of what is really going on in your liver.

LeighAnn

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