Re: Help- diet not working

[Guest guest]

Hey Corinna,

I notice you mentioned that are avoiding carbs besides the occasional fruit.

Just wondering you are making sure to get enough fat? I ask because even after

many months of thinking I was on this diet 100%, I didn't realize I not only

needed coconut oil but butter in my diet as well.

There may be things you are missing, or misunderstanding. For instance, if

you've been on the diet for this long, you should no longer have to be

performing coffee enemas.

Just checking things from all angles. I hope you find the relief you are looking

for...

Regards,

>

> I feel completely helpless. I am 30 years old, which means I should be healed

or at least close to healed in 30 months according to Bee. I know that everyone

is different, but I am in agony here. I have been on bee's diet for officially

16 months. However, I started the SCD diet with my family 3 years ago. SCD is

very similar to bee's diet, but it allows fruit and honey. However, when I

started SCD I knew that I could not eat fruit or honey b/c of my yeast. So, even

though my kids ate them, I did not. I did have an occasional helping on special

occasions, but that was it. So I honestly feel that technically I have been on

bee's diet for 3 years, I just didn't know I was doing it. I only had the

occasional cheats of fruit and they were even small servings. I have NEVER

cheated worse than that. According to Bee small cheats should not halt your

progress b/c of all of the good that you are feeding your body. So I don't

understand why I am still in agony!! I have surpassed my 30 months and am not

even close to being healed. When I started SCD I noticed a huge improvement. My

brain fog completely disappeared, my fatigue decreased, and energy increase. But

my vaginal infections never went away, nor my nipple thrush. They have been

constant for the last three years. When I officially switched to bee's diet,

once I discovered it, I felt no differences (which I believe was because I was

technically already doing it other than supplements being inline.)

>

> I don't know what to do. I feel totally helpless. I feel like I'm doing all of

this for nothing. I still live in agony daily and see no light at the end of the

tunnel. What is wrong with me?

> I have been eating everything perfectly, all of my supplements are correct, I

do Epsom salt baths 1-2 times a week (I would do more if my kids allowed me the

time), I have been doing the coffee enemas according to bee's schedule, I do

skin brushing, I coat my body with coconut oil daily. But nothing brings relief.

>

> I'm honestly wondering if I should get my fillings replaced. I know that this

diet is naturally chelating. And Bee recommends waiting until your immune system

is healthy. However, my mouth is filled with amalgam fillings. I had a really

bad dentist and did not realize it until I was in college. I went home for

Christmas and went to the dentist during my break. He said I had 6 cavities and

needed them filled. I said I didn't have time to do it. Then I went to a

different dentist and he told me that I had none. I was so angry - the dentist I

had my entire childhood had been drilling my teeth for no reason. I currently

have 18 fillings in my mouth!! Some teeth have multiple fillings. If I replaced

some fillings those teeth would probably need caps. I just wonder if the amount

of metal is just too much for my body to handle and I just can't heal from it.

>

> Another thing that concerns me is that I have diastasis recti. I am a very

small and thin women. My torso is very short and when I was pregnant with my

first child my belly stuck straight out which tore my abdominals. I know this

happens to women and is usually not a big deal, but my separation is very large.

I get constipated very easily and my bowels move very slowly and I feel that it

is due to the lack of counter pressure that my intestines would usually have

with my abdominals where they should be. I know maybe this sounds silly, but I

believe this to be the case because even when my stools are soft (which they

have been on this diet) I have a hard time passing them. This can't be good b/c

the longer the waste sits inside my body the more toxins are absorbed, right?

I'm not sure what to do about this either, before I started dieting for yeast I

always just assumed that I would get it fixed surgically after I was done having

kids, but once I started diets and became " all natural " I figured it would not

be wise. However, I feel that it is still affecting my well being. Not to

mention all of the back trouble I have from lack of core muscle support.

>

> I know that this is the right diet to be on. But I feel that something is

missing. I don't think that diet alone can help me. I only feel maybe 30% better

after 3 years! That is just not enough considering how much effort and time I

have put into this.

>

> Sorry for the long post, but I need help. I don't know what to do.

>

> Thank you all for the time and support that you give.

> Corinne

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Corinna,

I was on SCD before too. It didn't help at all.

I've been on this diet for a few months and I just realized that I wasn't

getting enough salt. 1 1/2 teaspoons is really more than you think! Adding

enough salt really seemed to help me, so I would suggest doing some more reading

here to see if there is anything missing. The supplements in the correct

amounts really made a difference for me over the SCD diet. I also have a hard

time keeping the fat intake so high every day.

Kim

> >

> > I feel completely helpless. I am 30 years old, which means I should be

healed or at least close to healed in 30 months according to Bee. I know that

everyone is different, but I am in agony here. I have been on bee's diet for

officially 16 months. However, I started the SCD diet with my family 3 years

ago. SCD is very similar to bee's diet, but it allows fruit and honey. However,

when I started SCD I knew that I could not eat fruit or honey b/c of my yeast.

So, even though my kids ate them, I did not. I did have an occasional helping on

special occasions, but that was it. So I honestly feel that technically I have

been on bee's diet for 3 years, I just didn't know I was doing it. I only had

the occasional cheats of fruit and they were even small servings. I have NEVER

cheated worse than that. According to Bee small cheats should not halt your

progress b/c of all of the good that you are feeding your body. So I don't

understand why I am still in agony!! I have surpassed my 30 months and am not

even close to being healed. When I started SCD I noticed a huge improvement. My

brain fog completely disappeared, my fatigue decreased, and energy increase. But

my vaginal infections never went away, nor my nipple thrush. They have been

constant for the last three years. When I officially switched to bee's diet,

once I discovered it, I felt no differences (which I believe was because I was

technically already doing it other than supplements being inline.)

> >

> > I don't know what to do. I feel totally helpless. I feel like I'm doing all

of this for nothing. I still live in agony daily and see no light at the end of

the tunnel. What is wrong with me?

> > I have been eating everything perfectly, all of my supplements are correct,

I do Epsom salt baths 1-2 times a week (I would do more if my kids allowed me

the time), I have been doing the coffee enemas according to bee's schedule, I do

skin brushing, I coat my body with coconut oil daily. But nothing brings relief.

> >

> > I'm honestly wondering if I should get my fillings replaced. I know that

this diet is naturally chelating. And Bee recommends waiting until your immune

system is healthy. However, my mouth is filled with amalgam fillings. I had a

really bad dentist and did not realize it until I was in college. I went home

for Christmas and went to the dentist during my break. He said I had 6 cavities

and needed them filled. I said I didn't have time to do it. Then I went to a

different dentist and he told me that I had none. I was so angry - the dentist I

had my entire childhood had been drilling my teeth for no reason. I currently

have 18 fillings in my mouth!! Some teeth have multiple fillings. If I replaced

some fillings those teeth would probably need caps. I just wonder if the amount

of metal is just too much for my body to handle and I just can't heal from it.

> >

> > Another thing that concerns me is that I have diastasis recti. I am a very

small and thin women. My torso is very short and when I was pregnant with my

first child my belly stuck straight out which tore my abdominals. I know this

happens to women and is usually not a big deal, but my separation is very large.

I get constipated very easily and my bowels move very slowly and I feel that it

is due to the lack of counter pressure that my intestines would usually have

with my abdominals where they should be. I know maybe this sounds silly, but I

believe this to be the case because even when my stools are soft (which they

have been on this diet) I have a hard time passing them. This can't be good b/c

the longer the waste sits inside my body the more toxins are absorbed, right?

I'm not sure what to do about this either, before I started dieting for yeast I

always just assumed that I would get it fixed surgically after I was done having

kids, but once I started diets and became " all natural " I figured it would not

be wise. However, I feel that it is still affecting my well being. Not to

mention all of the back trouble I have from lack of core muscle support.

> >

> > I know that this is the right diet to be on. But I feel that something is

missing. I don't think that diet alone can help me. I only feel maybe 30% better

after 3 years! That is just not enough considering how much effort and time I

have put into this.

> >

> > Sorry for the long post, but I need help. I don't know what to do.

> >

> > Thank you all for the time and support that you give.

> > Corinne

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I feel completely helpless. I am 30 years old, which means I should be healed

or at least close to healed in 30 months according to Bee. I know that everyone

is different, but I am in agony here. I have been on bee's diet for officially

16 months. However, I started the SCD diet with my family 3 years ago. SCD is

very similar to bee's diet, but it allows fruit and honey. However, when I

started SCD I knew that I could not eat fruit or honey b/c of my yeast. So, even

though my kids ate them, I did not. I did have an occasional helping on special

occasions, but that was it. So I honestly feel that technically I have been on

bee's diet for 3 years, I just didn't know I was doing it. I only had the

occasional cheats of fruit and they were even small servings. I have NEVER

cheated worse than that. According to Bee small cheats should not halt your

progress b/c of all of the good that you are feeding your body. So I don't

understand why I am still in agony!! I have surpassed my 30 months and am not

even close to being healed. When I started SCD I noticed a huge improvement. My

brain fog completely disappeared, my fatigue decreased, and energy increase. But

my vaginal infections never went away, nor my nipple thrush. They have been

constant for the last three years. When I officially switched to bee's diet,

once I discovered it, I felt no differences (which I believe was because I was

technically already doing it other than supplements being inline.)

+++Hi Corinne. The SCD is very different from my program and that's why so many

people come here after trying it. The major difference is the high " good " fats,

cod liver oil, lower carbs, and many others of course. It's the good fats on my

program that are very important! Of course all of the nutrients, including

supplements, on my program work together.

+++You say you switched to my program - so how long have you been on it, since

it takes time to heal and detoxify naturally, and the SCD doesn't do what my

program does. What difference do you expect to have?

>

> I don't know what to do. I feel totally helpless. I feel like I'm doing all of

this for nothing. I still live in agony daily and see no light at the end of the

tunnel. What is wrong with me?

> I have been eating everything perfectly, all of my supplements are correct, I

do Epsom salt baths 1-2 times a week (I would do more if my kids allowed me the

time), I have been doing the coffee enemas according to bee's schedule, I do

skin brushing, I coat my body with coconut oil daily. But nothing brings relief.

+++What kind of relief are you expecting?

>

> I'm honestly wondering if I should get my fillings replaced. I know that this

diet is naturally chelating. And Bee recommends waiting until your immune system

is healthy. However, my mouth is filled with amalgam fillings. I had a really

bad dentist and did not realize it until I was in college. I went home for

Christmas and went to the dentist during my break. He said I had 6 cavities and

needed them filled. I said I didn't have time to do it. Then I went to a

different dentist and he told me that I had none. I was so angry - the dentist I

had my entire childhood had been drilling my teeth for no reason. I currently

have 18 fillings in my mouth!! Some teeth have multiple fillings. If I replaced

some fillings those teeth would probably need caps. I just wonder if the amount

of metal is just too much for my body to handle and I just can't heal from it.

+++The high good fats in combination with cod liver oil, etc. work together to

naturally chelate out all heavy metals, so it isn't advisable to replace any

fillings, and it isn't necessary on this program.

>

> Another thing that concerns me is that I have diastasis recti. I am a very

small and thin women. My torso is very short and when I was pregnant with my

first child my belly stuck straight out which tore my abdominals. I know this

happens to women and is usually not a big deal, but my separation is very large.

I get constipated very easily and my bowels move very slowly and I feel that it

is due to the lack of counter pressure that my intestines would usually have

with my abdominals where they should be. I know maybe this sounds silly, but I

believe this to be the case because even when my stools are soft (which they

have been on this diet) I have a hard time passing them. This can't be good b/c

the longer the waste sits inside my body the more toxins are absorbed, right?

I'm not sure what to do about this either, before I started dieting for yeast I

always just assumed that I would get it fixed surgically after I was done having

kids, but once I started diets and became " all natural " I figured it would not

be wise. However, I feel that it is still affecting my well being. Not to

mention all of the back trouble I have from lack of core muscle support.

+++I'm not medical, so please I wouldn't know what diastasis recti is. Please

explain more about that condition, and how it affects you.

>

> I know that this is the right diet to be on. But I feel that something is

missing. I don't think that diet alone can help me. I only feel maybe 30% better

after 3 years! That is just not enough considering how much effort and time I

have put into this.

+++That great you know this is the right diet. So I think you just need to

learn more about how the body heals and detoxifies itself naturally - take your

time reading these articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

I do not eat fruit at all anymore. When I started SCD 3 years ago I had fruit

only on holidays as a treat and even then is was like 2 apple slices or a couple

strawberries at a time. Since I discovered Bee's diet 1 1/2 years ago I haven't

had any at all. Basically on when I started SCD I was only eating meat and

veggies, I started only cooking with coconut oil. I was taking coconut oil a few

times a day as an antifungal as well as a drop of oregano oil each day. (I

stopped the oregano oil once I started bee's program b/c she said it wasn't

necessary). I also stopped taking probiotics for the same reason. On SCD was not

eating butter, but once I found bee's diet I stated eating it again. I was even

taking supplements pretty close to bee's program but as soon as I discovered her

program I adjusted them to be correct. I honestly was on her diet probably 90%

of the way before I even discovered it. So for 1 1/2 years I was doing it 90%,

plus 1 1/2 years 100%. Even if I am missing something or doing something wrong

the amount of time that I have been doing this I should be healed more than I

am. Don't you think? Bee is constantly telling people that even when they cheat

their healing is not backtracked b/c they are still feeding their bodies the

nutrients it needs to heal and detoxify. But I haven't even been cheating for

the last 1 1/2 years and even before that it was very miniscule amounts every

few months. I have been giving my body the proper nutrients for 3 years but am

only slightly better for it.

Also, I haven't been doing coffee enemas from the beginning. I actually just

started them about 4 months ago b/c I still wasn't better. I thought that maybe

it was what I was missing. I was hoping that they would make the difference I

needed.

>

> Hey Corinna,

>

> I notice you mentioned that are avoiding carbs besides the occasional fruit.

Just wondering you are making sure to get enough fat? I ask because even after

many months of thinking I was on this diet 100%, I didn't realize I not only

needed coconut oil but butter in my diet as well.

>

> There may be things you are missing, or misunderstanding. For instance, if

you've been on the diet for this long, you should no longer have to be

performing coffee enemas.

>

> Just checking things from all angles. I hope you find the relief you are

looking for...

>

> Regards,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kim,

Yes, once I found bee's program I increased my salt and all of my supplements

are where they should be. I have read through everything it seems like a million

times looking for what I'm missing, but can't find anything.

Corinne

>

> Hi Corinna,

>

> I was on SCD before too. It didn't help at all.

>

> I've been on this diet for a few months and I just realized that I wasn't

getting enough salt. 1 1/2 teaspoons is really more than you think! Adding

enough salt really seemed to help me, so I would suggest doing some more reading

here to see if there is anything missing. The supplements in the correct

amounts really made a difference for me over the SCD diet. I also have a hard

time keeping the fat intake so high every day.

>

> Kim

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, I think I need to re explain my situation without labels, b/c even when I

was on SCD I wasn't eating everything it allowed b/c I knew I shouldn't.

For 3 years I have been eating nothing but meat and veggies. For the first year

and a half I had maybe a 1/4 cup of fruit on holidays. I was also eating almond

and pecan butters, but after a 1 1/2 years I stopped eating those too. I was

eating a lot of coconut oil. It is the only oil I cook with. 3 years ago I also

started taking cod liver oil as well as calcium and magnesium. I wasn't eating

butter, but then added 1 1/2 years ago and readjusted my supplements and food

ratios to be perfectly in line with your program. However, when doing so I was

happy to see that I was already eating very close to what I should be.

I just feel like I have been on your diet 90% of the way for a year and a half

and 100% of the way for the last year and a half that I should be healed by now.

But I still have CONSTANT vaginal infections, nipple thrush, headaches including

migraines a few times a month, my energy level is better than before but I am

still not where I should be. I feel only slightly better than before I started

dieting. Honestly I expected to be healed by now or at least not being in

constant agony everyday anymore.

Diastasis Recti is a disorder defined as a separation of the rectus abdominis

muscle into right and left halves. Normally, the two sides of the muscle are

joined at the linea alba at the body midline. However, my linea alba was ripped

in half therefore my abdominals no longer are connected in the center of my

stomach, instead they lay open and stay at my sides. No longer have core support

and have constant back problems. They are very week as they cannot work

together. I cannot even lift 2 milk jugs without hurting myself. Also when I

lay on my stomach there is a huge gapping hole where the abs should be and I can

actually see my intestines under the the skin. My stomach is also very tender

b/c there is no protection from my abdominals. If my toddler jumps on my lap and

knees me in the stomach it is extremely painful. Since this condition I have

also noticed that my bowels move very slowly, whether they are hard or soft they

are very hard to pass b/c I have no muscles to help push them out. I am assuming

that this cannot be good as it allows waste to stay in my body longer than it

should.

I understand your feelings about the fillings. I've read all the articles on

your website. I understand the natural healing process. However, since I have

not healing after doing this for so long, I thought that maybe it could be the

problem since I have so many. Practically every tooth in my mouth has amalgam in

them and some of them are huge. I just thought that maybe my small little body

is just too overburdened that it just can't heal.

I'm just looking for answers. I have been doing this for 3 years and had such

little progress that there must be something more that I need to do.

I really appreciate all the help this forum has been, I have learned so much and

I feel like this is the only place I can go for help at this point, but I am

starting to give up hope and I do not know what to do next.

Corinne

> +++Hi Corinne. The SCD is very different from my program and that's why so

many people come here after trying it. The major difference is the high " good "

fats, cod liver oil, lower carbs, and many others of course. It's the good fats

on my program that are very important! Of course all of the nutrients,

including supplements, on my program work together.

>

> +++You say you switched to my program - so how long have you been on it, since

it takes time to heal and detoxify naturally, and the SCD doesn't do what my

program does. What difference do you expect to have?

>

> +++What kind of relief are you expecting?

> >

> +++The high good fats in combination with cod liver oil, etc. work together to

naturally chelate out all heavy metals, so it isn't advisable to replace any

fillings, and it isn't necessary on this program.

> +++I'm not medical, so please I wouldn't know what diastasis recti is. Please

explain more about that condition, and how it affects you.

> >

> +++That great you know this is the right diet. So I think you just need to

learn more about how the body heals and detoxifies itself naturally - take your

time reading these articles:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php

>

> All the best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

'How can this diet not heal almost any ailment given proper motivation and

time?'

I think this from my own experiences and what I see here on the board - it's not

often someone comes along like this and convinces me they are on the diet 100%

and still not getting the relief they deserve.

Then I think...

there may be things that not every individual can control.

In my case, I had bad teeth growing up as a child - as well as the structure of

my nose is not optimal for breathing.

This may be causing certain issues associated with 'health' - e.g. I sleep with

my mouth open - maybe I don't get the best quality sleep and some mental healing

during sleep becomes an issue.

Perhaps my body goes into flight or fight response easier then normal because I

breath through my mouth unconsciously, etc.

Due to the structure of my nose, these may be things that I can no longer

control.

What about organs, and brain function?

If serious malnutrition is present while growing up, perhaps the organs/brain

don't develop properly - and once we hit a certain age, these organs no longer

deviate from how they are.

This could cause health problems that one can no longer control.

This is a theory and it certainly sounds disconcerting - but at least we are

doing are very best to make ourselves as healthy as possible - I couldn't ask

anymore of myself in that regard.

I'd also like to think that with this knowledge, my children, and grandchildren

will be given the best opportunity to live suffer-less from any health

complications. This makes finding Bee's website 3 times as important then most

would think!

Thoughts?

>

> > +++Hi Corinne. The SCD is very different from my program and that's why so

many people come here after trying it. The major difference is the high " good "

fats, cod liver oil, lower carbs, and many others of course. It's the good fats

on my program that are very important! Of course all of the nutrients,

including supplements, on my program work together.

> >

> > +++You say you switched to my program - so how long have you been on it,

since it takes time to heal and detoxify naturally, and the SCD doesn't do what

my program does. What difference do you expect to have?

> >

> > +++What kind of relief are you expecting?

> > >

>

> > +++The high good fats in combination with cod liver oil, etc. work together

to naturally chelate out all heavy metals, so it isn't advisable to replace any

fillings, and it isn't necessary on this program.

>

> > +++I'm not medical, so please I wouldn't know what diastasis recti is.

Please explain more about that condition, and how it affects you.

> > >

>

> > +++That great you know this is the right diet. So I think you just need to

learn more about how the body heals and detoxifies itself naturally - take your

time reading these articles:

> > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php

> >

> > All the best, Bee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Corrine,

Maybe you are sick for reasons other than nutrition.

Emotional issues can directly impact our health. Even medical science is

finally admitting the mind-body connection. I recently read that one study

found that a majority of women with breast cancer, to give one example, had

trouble expressing themselves, asserting boundaries, etc. Maybe you need to

ask yourself if there is some emotional imbalance you need to address.

Also, indigenous peoples worldwide traditionally had a rich shamanic culture

(in addition to eating proper nutrition). This culture views sickness as a

spiritual issue--it could be negative energy sent on the sick person by

other persons or entities, or the person could have " lost " a part of their

spirit or soul, due to trauma. There are still shamans practicing today

that address this. I spent time in Peru, participating in shamanic

ceremonies, and met many people who swear they recovered from illness from

this kind of intervention.

I don't know how you feel about these ideas, but just throwing out some

ideas...

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Wynn <poloapparel@...> wrote:

>

>

> 'How can this diet not heal almost any ailment given proper motivation and

> time?'

>

> I think this from my own experiences and what I see here on the board -

> it's not often someone comes along like this and convinces me they are on

> the diet 100% and still not getting the relief they deserve.

>

> Then I think...

>

> there may be things that not every individual can control.

>

> In my case, I had bad teeth growing up as a child - as well as the

> structure of my nose is not optimal for breathing.

>

> This may be causing certain issues associated with 'health' - e.g. I sleep

> with my mouth open - maybe I don't get the best quality sleep and some

> mental healing during sleep becomes an issue.

>

> Perhaps my body goes into flight or fight response easier then normal

> because I breath through my mouth unconsciously, etc.

>

> Due to the structure of my nose, these may be things that I can no longer

> control.

>

> What about organs, and brain function?

>

> If serious malnutrition is present while growing up, perhaps the

> organs/brain don't develop properly - and once we hit a certain age, these

> organs no longer deviate from how they are.

>

> This could cause health problems that one can no longer control.

>

> This is a theory and it certainly sounds disconcerting - but at least we

> are doing are very best to make ourselves as healthy as possible - I

> couldn't ask anymore of myself in that regard.

>

> I'd also like to think that with this knowledge, my children, and

> grandchildren will be given the best opportunity to live suffer-less from

> any health complications. This makes finding Bee's website 3 times as

> important then most would think!

>

> Thoughts?

>

>

>

> >

> > > +++Hi Corinne. The SCD is very different from my program and that's why

> so many people come here after trying it. The major difference is the high

> " good " fats, cod liver oil, lower carbs, and many others of course. It's the

> good fats on my program that are very important! Of course all of the

> nutrients, including supplements, on my program work together.

> > >

> > > +++You say you switched to my program - so how long have you been on

> it, since it takes time to heal and detoxify naturally, and the SCD doesn't

> do what my program does. What difference do you expect to have?

> > >

> > > +++What kind of relief are you expecting?

> > > >

> >

> > > +++The high good fats in combination with cod liver oil, etc. work

> together to naturally chelate out all heavy metals, so it isn't advisable to

> replace any fillings, and it isn't necessary on this program.

> >

> > > +++I'm not medical, so please I wouldn't know what diastasis recti is.

> Please explain more about that condition, and how it affects you.

> > > >

> >

> > > +++That great you know this is the right diet. So I think you just need

> to learn more about how the body heals and detoxifies itself naturally -

> take your time reading these articles:

> > > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php

> > >

> > > All the best, Bee

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Corrine, we too were on scd for a couple of years and then moved on to Gaps

inbetween. We found a tremendous difference in our healing coming here. The

biggest as Bee says is the fats, were you really on those sorts of ratios on

scd?

One thing I could suggest which has really worked for us has been replacing

butter for ghee, I think some people with really compromised guts can not

process any lactose. We all went into a big healing crissis when we came off it.

Same also went for the lemon, which again we weren't tolerating. I only suggest

these extreme measures for people in trouble long term with the diet, and

actually there are very few of them.

Its difficult to estimate how poorly you are with chronic illness and therefore

how far you have to go. My daughter was very very obviously poorly, but

everything that she has had trouble with I do too. We spend most of our energy

in the kitchen on fats and preparing the softest and most digestible meats. We

care less and less about the veg and infact have recently experimented with not

having any - and feel fabulous! Do you eat plenty of eggs and fish? Are you

taking your hcl in the right dose?

All the best

..

>

[Guest guest]

,

I have actually been thinking that it might be emotional stress that is keeping

me this way. Candida has really thrown a huge dent in my marriage. I am

constantly tired and sick, and have constant vaginal issues therefore it is

EXTREMELY difficult to be intimate in any way. My husband is amazing and takes

such good care of me. But he is not feeling loved at all w/ the lack of

intimacy. We try to do things together for him (sorry if its too much info) but

it still isn't quite the same. We also can't enjoy the things we used to do

together. We always used to cook together, but he has no interest in doing it

anymore with this diet. He loves to bake, but there really is not much baking on

this diet. We loved going out to eat and trying new foods, but thats not an

option. He really has been very supportive, but it still doesn't fix things.

Both of our " buckets " are empty and we just can't seem to fill them. Not to

mention we have 3 young children, one that is autistic, also on the diet. Our

life is super stressful and we just can't seem to find any rest or relief. Which

unfortunately seems like it will never end until I am better, but I can't get

better if I'm under constant stress, so its just a vicious cycle.

Corinne

> > >

> > > > +++Hi Corinne. The SCD is very different from my program and that's why

> > so many people come here after trying it. The major difference is the high

> > " good " fats, cod liver oil, lower carbs, and many others of course. It's the

> > good fats on my program that are very important! Of course all of the

> > nutrients, including supplements, on my program work together.

> > > >

> > > > +++You say you switched to my program - so how long have you been on

> > it, since it takes time to heal and detoxify naturally, and the SCD doesn't

> > do what my program does. What difference do you expect to have?

> > > >

> > > > +++What kind of relief are you expecting?

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > +++The high good fats in combination with cod liver oil, etc. work

> > together to naturally chelate out all heavy metals, so it isn't advisable to

> > replace any fillings, and it isn't necessary on this program.

> > >

> > > > +++I'm not medical, so please I wouldn't know what diastasis recti is.

> > Please explain more about that condition, and how it affects you.

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > +++That great you know this is the right diet. So I think you just need

> > to learn more about how the body heals and detoxifies itself naturally -

> > take your time reading these articles:

> > > > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php

> > > >

> > > > All the best, Bee

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OH MY GOODNESS. I have not been following this post and just happen

to glance at the part about diastasis recti! I have the same thing!

I, too, am very thin. I've been very thin and very strong my whole

life. I attributed my diastasis to not only the thinness, but also

that I did pullups (my own bodyweight) throughout the entire

pregnancy. I actually did 2 pullups the day before I went into

labor. I think the extra weight from gravity thru my abdomen from

hanging, not to mention the pull thru the abs, lats, etc. during the

pullups was enough to tear my muscles up! Why I did that, I'm not

sure. Because I could and it became a game. For my second child I was

much more careful and conscious as to how I used by body.

None the less, if I get the slightest bit of bloating (eat the wrong

thing, experience healing reactions, for example) my stomach will look

6 months pregnant.

I do not get constipated but I think that is because I have done so

much healing before I ever had kids. I also take extra magnesium at

night that I think helps keep things moving smoothly. I feel as

though I, too, don't have the counter pressure as you so perfectly

described!!!

Anyway, just thought you may want to know you are not crazy when it

comes to this. My midwife/homeopath says it's something I should have

had fixed yesterday. She says you can have just the diastasis sewn up

orthoscopically, so no big incision. I plan to research the options

this year and think about it. She had hers done and said it was

fine. She did no antibiotics and only did homeopathy to recover!

[Guest guest]

>

> OH MY GOODNESS. I have not been following this post and just happen to glance

at the part about diastasis recti! I have the same thing!

> I, too, am very thin. I've been very thin and very strong my whole

> life. I attributed my diastasis to not only the thinness, but also that I

did pullups (my own bodyweight) throughout the entire

> pregnancy. I actually did 2 pullups the day before I went into

> labor. I think the extra weight from gravity thru my abdomen from

> hanging, not to mention the pull thru the abs, lats, etc. during the pullups

was enough to tear my muscles up! Why I did that, I'm not sure. Because I could

and it became a game. For my second child I was much more careful and conscious

as to how I used by body.

>

> None the less, if I get the slightest bit of bloating (eat the wrong thing,

experience healing reactions, for example) my stomach will look 6 months

pregnant.

>

> I do not get constipated but I think that is because I have done so much

healing before I ever had kids. I also take extra magnesium at night that I

think helps keep things moving smoothly. I feel as

though I, too, don't have the counter pressure as you so perfectly

described!!!

>

> Anyway, just thought you may want to know you are not crazy when it comes to

this. My midwife/homeopath says it's something I should have had fixed

yesterday. She says you can have just the diastasis sewn up orthoscopically,

so no big incision. I plan to research the options this year and think about

it. She had hers done and said it was fine. She did no antibiotics and only

did homeopathy to recover!

>

>

>

@@ Hi & Corrine,

Diastasis Recti is structural damage caused physically/mechanically and not so

much by nutrient deficiency, unless one was born with this condition. Then

perhaps this may play a role due to their mother's health status at the time of

pregnancy and birth. Although women acquire this structural injury more, men

can also acquire it as well.

And yes, abdominal damage will effect the back as well in varying degree and

thus will cause strength imbalance. Since the back is the opposing connective

muscle it will try to compensate. And yes, it has been reported to have an

impact on the digestive & elimination process for some people. Depending on the

severity of their injury.

Nonetheless, after researching & skimming a forum or two, it seems seeking a

qualified Women's Health Physio / Physiotherapist to give you appropriate

exercises to strenghten your pelvic floor, deep abdominal and back muscles is a

good first step.

These exercises are proven to improve back pain as well as incontinence(lack of

bladder or bowel control). Albeit, it may not improve the look or feel of those

big gaps but you will be helping to decrease your back pain and tone the deeper

abdominals which will help you feel better. Unfortunately surgery is required

for unresolved big gaps that worry you aesthetically.

Some women have also reported some relief wearing a spandex like abdominal

binder found at a surgical supply store or back supports. However, this is not

a long term solution and should not be practiced long term neither. Although

acceptable short term or occasionally.

Medical Insurance will not usually cover this injury unfortunately, since it is

considered cosmetic. The exception is if your Diastasis Recti condition

qualifies as a necessary procedure i.e it relates to digestive/elimination

problems or pain that alters your quality of life according to your

physician.... then Medical Insurance may cover a percentage of the

corrective/cosmetic surgery.

Lastly, doing abdominal exercises i.e situps or weight lifting type exercises is

NOT RECOMMENDED at this point. Since this can worsen the situation. Of course

nutrition is also important in regards to ALL muscle damage & repair and it has

a role in prevention too.

As a caveat, women should never do direct abdominal exercises i.e situps,

crunches ..etc, during their pregnancy, since this makes them more prone to

this type of injury.

Some of my information was sourced here :

http://www.peertrainer.com/LoungeCommunityThread.aspx?ForumID=1 & ThreadID=18914

Best in Health

Ed

group moderator

[Guest guest]

Corinne,

After I read this, something clicked and I can understand exactly how you feel.

I was on birth control pills for 10 years and then had two children, struggling

with candida and young children and had thyroid issues. So I can understand

your exhaustion. I think that my working on my emotional issues may have helped

everything for my physical healing to fall into place. Some of the things that

I did were EFT (do a search on the internet), yoga, breathing exercises (sounds

like nothing, but they do work) Bee has some on her website and Weil has

some and there are DVDs to follow along with meditation, I read Eckhart Tolle's

A New Earth. The breathing exercises are the cheapest and you just need to be

consistent with them and they will start working.

Can you make a date night once a month with your husband and find someone to

watch the kids you can trust? I lost two husbands with all my craziness and

brain fog and hormonal disruptions (not that I picked the most supportive ones

to begin with) so I would definitely make that relationship a priority. I think

that eating out once a month shouldn't halt your progress. Many people have

mentioned about keeping the cheating confined to a two hour window and not

having it hurt their healing. I have gone out to eat and not eaten the best

choice and have been ok. I just seem to detox more after doing it. We can't

live like prisoners all our lives, can we?

I had went to many doctors and natural doctors and this diet was the one that I

can actually feel that my hormones are finally not going crazy.

Can you afford to go to a spa for an afternoon or something? Make some time for

yourself even though I know it's very hard to do. Oprah has these inspirational

emails that you can sign up for and they give little tips about how to make

yourself a priority, which is very important if have others to care for. Taking

an epsom salt bath can give you time to yourself as well.

I'm just throwing things out there and I know I've mentioned a lot. If you can

start with just one thing and move forward from there, you will see a

difference. And if something isn't working for you, then just move on to the

next thing. No big deal. As your kids get older, the physical energy required

to take care of them does subside. I know that doesn't help now.

Look for the joy in the small things and start being grateful for what you do

have. Hey, you've found Bee already! It took me 10 years to find her. The

fact that you are looking to stop this cycle means that you are already starting

to heal.

Kim

>

> ,

>

> I have actually been thinking that it might be emotional stress that is

keeping me this way. Candida has really thrown a huge dent in my marriage. I am

constantly tired and sick, and have constant vaginal issues therefore it is

EXTREMELY difficult to be intimate in any way. My husband is amazing and takes

such good care of me. But he is not feeling loved at all w/ the lack of

intimacy. We try to do things together for him (sorry if its too much info) but

it still isn't quite the same. We also can't enjoy the things we used to do

together. We always used to cook together, but he has no interest in doing it

anymore with this diet. He loves to bake, but there really is not much baking on

this diet. We loved going out to eat and trying new foods, but thats not an

option. He really has been very supportive, but it still doesn't fix things.

Both of our " buckets " are empty and we just can't seem to fill them. Not to

mention we have 3 young children, one that is autistic, also on the diet. Our

life is super stressful and we just can't seem to find any rest or relief. Which

unfortunately seems like it will never end until I am better, but I can't get

better if I'm under constant stress, so its just a vicious cycle.

>

> Corinne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I too feel as though the diet is not working as well as it should - my

digestion is awful at the moment and has got progressively worse - to the extent

that I now have gastroparesis - food sitting in my stomach for hours (last night

I ate at around 6pm and my stomach didn't empty until 3am this morning - and all

I had was pureed chicken and broccoli with the veg water!!!

It is keeping me awake - most nights I am not asleep until at least 2am and I am

exhausted.

You may have something with the butter. That has been a constant right through

the 2 years of the SCD followed by the last 9 months I have been on Bee's Diet.

I have tried not having butter in the past for maybe a week or so but maybe I

was not off it long enough to see any real difference.

I have some ghee in the fridge, and I am also thinking of getting some goats'

butter to use instead, as the s-beta 1 protein in that apparently does not

trigger reactions like the s-alpha 1 protein in cows milk.

I am not absorbing the nutrition as I feel I should be and the butter could be

driving continuous damage in my gut. It is very common that those with Celiac

Disease also have issues with casein and the proteins in soy and corn, as well

as gluten.

Until I can get my digestion working properly, I can't hope to be healing

anything like I should be at this stage.

Ali.

>

> Hi Corrine, we too were on scd for a couple of years and then moved on to Gaps

inbetween. We found a tremendous difference in our healing coming here. The

biggest as Bee says is the fats, were you really on those sorts of ratios on

scd?

> One thing I could suggest which has really worked for us has been replacing

butter for ghee, I think some people with really compromised guts can not

process any lactose. We all went into a big healing crissis when we came off it.

Same also went for the lemon, which again we weren't tolerating. I only suggest

these extreme measures for people in trouble long term with the diet, and

actually there are very few of them.

> Its difficult to estimate how poorly you are with chronic illness and

therefore how far you have to go. My daughter was very very obviously poorly,

but everything that she has had trouble with I do too. We spend most of our

energy in the kitchen on fats and preparing the softest and most digestible

meats. We care less and less about the veg and infact have recently experimented

with not having any - and feel fabulous! Do you eat plenty of eggs and fish? Are

you taking your hcl in the right dose?

> All the best

>

> .

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I do not eat fruit at all anymore. When I started SCD 3 years ago I had fruit

only on holidays as a treat and even then is was like 2 apple slices or a couple

strawberries at a time. Since I discovered Bee's diet 1 1/2 years ago I haven't

had any at all. Basically on when I started SCD I was only eating meat and

veggies, I started only cooking with coconut oil. I was taking coconut oil a few

times a day as an antifungal as well as a drop of oregano oil each day. (I

stopped the oregano oil once I started bee's program b/c she said it wasn't

necessary). I also stopped taking probiotics for the same reason. On SCD was not

eating butter, but once I found bee's diet I stated eating it again. I was even

taking supplements pretty close to bee's program but as soon as I discovered her

program I adjusted them to be correct. I honestly was on her diet probably 90%

of the way before I even discovered it. So for 1 1/2 years I was doing it 90%,

plus 1 1/2 years 100%. Even if I am missing something or doing something wrong

the amount of time that I have been doing this I should be healed more than I

am. Don't you think? Bee is constantly telling people that even when they cheat

their healing is not backtracked b/c they are still feeding their bodies the

nutrients it needs to heal and detoxify. But I haven't even been cheating for

the last 1 1/2 years and even before that it was very miniscule amounts every

few months. I have been giving my body the proper nutrients for 3 years but am

only slightly better for it.

>

> Also, I haven't been doing coffee enemas from the beginning. I actually just

started them about 4 months ago b/c I still wasn't better. I thought that maybe

it was what I was missing. I was hoping that they would make the difference I

needed.

+++Hi Corrine,

You haven't been getting the high good fats in combination with supplements like

I recommend. It's the high good fats that make a big difference. All of the

nutrients work together and your fats, protein and carbs must be in the correct

ratios.

That's why you calculate protein, fat and carb ratios using these two

references:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods8.php

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foods9.php

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Dear Corinne,

Your condition may not be able to be reversed. However, even if you do not heal

completely, or according to what you expect, you are still better off getting

all of the proper nutrition on this program, since it certainly won't do you any

harm.

All the best, Bee

>

> Ok, I think I need to re explain my situation without labels, b/c even when I

was on SCD I wasn't eating everything it allowed b/c I knew I shouldn't.

>

> For 3 years I have been eating nothing but meat and veggies. For the first

year and a half I had maybe a 1/4 cup of fruit on holidays. I was also eating

almond and pecan butters, but after a 1 1/2 years I stopped eating those too. I

was eating a lot of coconut oil. It is the only oil I cook with. 3 years ago I

also started taking cod liver oil as well as calcium and magnesium. I wasn't

eating butter, but then added 1 1/2 years ago and readjusted my supplements and

food ratios to be perfectly in line with your program. However, when doing so I

was happy to see that I was already eating very close to what I should be.

>

> I just feel like I have been on your diet 90% of the way for a year and a half

and 100% of the way for the last year and a half that I should be healed by now.

But I still have CONSTANT vaginal infections, nipple thrush, headaches including

migraines a few times a month, my energy level is better than before but I am

still not where I should be. I feel only slightly better than before I started

dieting. Honestly I expected to be healed by now or at least not being in

constant agony everyday anymore.

>

> Diastasis Recti is a disorder defined as a separation of the rectus abdominis

muscle into right and left halves. Normally, the two sides of the muscle are

joined at the linea alba at the body midline. However, my linea alba was ripped

in half therefore my abdominals no longer are connected in the center of my

stomach, instead they lay open and stay at my sides. No longer have core support

and have constant back problems. They are very week as they cannot work

together. I cannot even lift 2 milk jugs without hurting myself. Also when I

lay on my stomach there is a huge gapping hole where the abs should be and I can

actually see my intestines under the the skin. My stomach is also very tender

b/c there is no protection from my abdominals. If my toddler jumps on my lap and

knees me in the stomach it is extremely painful. Since this condition I have

also noticed that my bowels move very slowly, whether they are hard or soft they

are very hard to pass b/c I have no muscles to help push them out. I am assuming

that this cannot be good as it allows waste to stay in my body longer than it

should.

>

> I understand your feelings about the fillings. I've read all the articles on

your website. I understand the natural healing process. However, since I have

not healing after doing this for so long, I thought that maybe it could be the

problem since I have so many. Practically every tooth in my mouth has amalgam in

them and some of them are huge. I just thought that maybe my small little body

is just too overburdened that it just can't heal.

>

> I'm just looking for answers. I have been doing this for 3 years and had such

little progress that there must be something more that I need to do.

>

> I really appreciate all the help this forum has been, I have learned so much

and I feel like this is the only place I can go for help at this point, but I am

starting to give up hope and I do not know what to do next.

>

> Corinne

[Guest guest]

Hi Ali,

You should see the doctor to get a current diagnosis of your digestive issues,

and let me know.

Bee

>

> Hi, I too feel as though the diet is not working as well as it should - my

digestion is awful at the moment and has got progressively worse - to the extent

that I now have gastroparesis - food sitting in my stomach for hours (last night

I ate at around 6pm and my stomach didn't empty until 3am this morning - and all

I had was pureed chicken and broccoli with the veg water!!!

>

> It is keeping me awake - most nights I am not asleep until at least 2am and I

am exhausted.

>

> You may have something with the butter. That has been a constant right

through the 2 years of the SCD followed by the last 9 months I have been on

Bee's Diet. I have tried not having butter in the past for maybe a week or so

but maybe I was not off it long enough to see any real difference.

>

> I have some ghee in the fridge, and I am also thinking of getting some goats'

butter to use instead, as the s-beta 1 protein in that apparently does not

trigger reactions like the s-alpha 1 protein in cows milk.

>

> I am not absorbing the nutrition as I feel I should be and the butter could be

driving continuous damage in my gut. It is very common that those with Celiac

Disease also have issues with casein and the proteins in soy and corn, as well

as gluten.

>

> Until I can get my digestion working properly, I can't hope to be healing

anything like I should be at this stage.

[Guest guest]

<snip>

> Nonetheless, after researching & skimming a forum or two, it seems seeking a

qualified Women's Health Physio / Physiotherapist to give you appropriate

exercises to strenghten your pelvic floor, deep abdominal and back muscles is a

good first step.

>

> These exercises are proven to improve back pain as well as incontinence(lack

of bladder or bowel control). Albeit, it may not improve the look or feel of

those big gaps but you will be helping to decrease your back pain and tone the

deeper abdominals which will help you feel better. Unfortunately surgery is

required for unresolved big gaps that worry you aesthetically.

>

> Some women have also reported some relief wearing a spandex like abdominal

binder found at a surgical supply store or back supports. However, this is not

a long term solution and should not be practiced long term neither. Although

acceptable short term or occasionally.

+++Hi , Corrine and Ed,

What you are talking about is not only structural damage but also unhealthy

muscles, connective tissues, unhealthy cell membranes, etc.

Ed is right that nutrition is very important too.

Proper nutrition means changing over all of the body's cell membranes to being

constructed out of 50% saturated fat, which takes time. It also means

eliminating toxins that make all of the cell membranes rigid/stiff, and that

requires proper detoxification too which the body becomes more able to do on

this program. Nutrients, hormones, and even water are less able to get into

stiff cells where they are needed, and the cells are less able to get rid of

their own natural waste products.

Hernias are an example of weak muscles, but of course it is different than what

you are talking about. My friend had a bad groin hernia and when he stuck to my

program he had very little problems with it, not even needing his supportive

girdle. When he went off it, he had to wear his girdle. Of course he also

needed to stay on the program long enough to actually strengthen his muscles.

Many people have had operations to correct structural issues, but if the muscles

are weak and unhealthy they won't totally correct the issues. So it is important

to get healthy too!

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Ed,

Actually, my former work before becoming a mom was a Corrective

Exercise Specialist and Nutrition and lifestyle Coach. I worked a lot

with women with back pain, diastasis recti, etc. While the exercises can

improve the situation a lot for some women, that is not the case for

all. And, typically, it needs to be done much sooner after birth.

Trust me, I knew what to do and it still did not work.

I also have looser skin and fascia than most. I always have. I'm

lean and muscular and look like a 'hard body', but in actuality, I'm

quite 'soft'. My fascia is just not tight. SO, the stretch of two

babies damaged the muscle and while I got a little closure early on,

the laxity in the skin/fascia adds to the issue. My bowels are very visible

moving and rolling around under the skin I imagine there is a slight hernia as

well, or at least a very thin layer of fascia holding things in.

I know more women who were not helped by the exercises than who were.

I'm very familiar with the approaches out there and it only works some

of the time.

> >

> > OH MY GOODNESS. I have not been following this post and just happen to

glance at the part about diastasis recti! I have the same thing!

>

> > I, too, am very thin. I've been very thin and very strong my whole

> > life. I attributed my diastasis to not only the thinness, but also that I

did pullups (my own bodyweight) throughout the entire

> > pregnancy. I actually did 2 pullups the day before I went into

> > labor. I think the extra weight from gravity thru my abdomen from

> > hanging, not to mention the pull thru the abs, lats, etc. during the

pullups was enough to tear my muscles up! Why I did that, I'm not sure. Because

I could and it became a game. For my second child I was much more careful and

conscious as to how I used by body.

> >

> > None the less, if I get the slightest bit of bloating (eat the wrong thing,

experience healing reactions, for example) my stomach will look 6 months

pregnant.

> >

> > I do not get constipated but I think that is because I have done so much

healing before I ever had kids. I also take extra magnesium at night that I

think helps keep things moving smoothly. I feel as

> though I, too, don't have the counter pressure as you so perfectly

> described!!!

> >

> > Anyway, just thought you may want to know you are not crazy when it comes

to this. My midwife/homeopath says it's something I should have had fixed

yesterday. She says you can have just the diastasis sewn up orthoscopically,

so no big incision. I plan to research the options this year and think about

it. She had hers done and said it was fine. She did no antibiotics and only

did homeopathy to recover!

> >

> >

> >

>

> @@ Hi & Corrine,

>

> Diastasis Recti is structural damage caused physically/mechanically and not so

much by nutrient deficiency, unless one was born with this condition. Then

perhaps this may play a role due to their mother's health status at the time of

pregnancy and birth. Although women acquire this structural injury more, men

can also acquire it as well.

>

> And yes, abdominal damage will effect the back as well in varying degree and

thus will cause strength imbalance. Since the back is the opposing connective

muscle it will try to compensate. And yes, it has been reported to have an

impact on the digestive & elimination process for some people. Depending on the

severity of their injury.

>

> Nonetheless, after researching & skimming a forum or two, it seems seeking a

qualified Women's Health Physio / Physiotherapist to give you appropriate

exercises to strenghten your pelvic floor, deep abdominal and back muscles is a

good first step.

>

> These exercises are proven to improve back pain as well as incontinence(lack

of bladder or bowel control). Albeit, it may not improve the look or feel of

those big gaps but you will be helping to decrease your back pain and tone the

deeper abdominals which will help you feel better. Unfortunately surgery is

required for unresolved big gaps that worry you aesthetically.

>

> Some women have also reported some relief wearing a spandex like abdominal

binder found at a surgical supply store or back supports. However, this is not

a long term solution and should not be practiced long term neither. Although

acceptable short term or occasionally.

>

> Medical Insurance will not usually cover this injury unfortunately, since it

is considered cosmetic. The exception is if your Diastasis Recti condition

qualifies as a necessary procedure i.e it relates to digestive/elimination

problems or pain that alters your quality of life according to your

physician.... then Medical Insurance may cover a percentage of the

corrective/cosmetic surgery.

>

> Lastly, doing abdominal exercises i.e situps or weight lifting type exercises

is NOT RECOMMENDED at this point. Since this can worsen the situation. Of

course nutrition is also important in regards to ALL muscle damage & repair and

it has a role in prevention too.

>

> As a caveat, women should never do direct abdominal exercises i.e situps,

crunches ..etc, during their pregnancy, since this makes them more prone to

this type of injury.

>

> Some of my information was sourced here :

>

> http://www.peertrainer.com/LoungeCommunityThread.aspx?ForumID=1 & ThreadID=18914

>

> Best in Health

> Ed

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[Guest guest]

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> Hi Ed,

>

> Actually, my former work before becoming a mom was a Corrective

> Exercise Specialist and Nutrition and lifestyle Coach. I worked a lot

> with women with back pain, diastasis recti, etc. While the exercises can

> improve the situation a lot for some women, that is not the case for

> all. And, typically, it needs to be done much sooner after birth.

> Trust me, I knew what to do and it still did not work.

>

> I also have looser skin and fascia than most. I always have. I'm

> lean and muscular and look like a 'hard body', but in actuality, I'm

> quite 'soft'. My fascia is just not tight. SO, the stretch of two

> babies damaged the muscle and while I got a little closure early on,

> the laxity in the skin/fascia adds to the issue. My bowels are very visible

moving and rolling around under the skin I imagine there is a slight hernia as

well, or at least a very thin layer of fascia holding things in.

>

> I know more women who were not helped by the exercises than who were.

> I'm very familiar with the approaches out there and it only works some

> of the time.

>

>

>

@@ Hi ,

Thanks for that supplemental information. Although , I did stipulate

The Physiotherapist and related exercise was " a good first step " .

And I agree with everything you mentioned. The people at the forum with this

issue also share the same consensus thus why I sourced a link to the forum of

people afflicted with this experience.

http://www.peertrainer.com/LoungeCommunityThread.aspx?ForumID=1 & ThreadID=18914

Thus, surgery for " Diastasis Recti " seems the most successful approach in

addressing this issue , accordingly. Thus again the reason for the link I

submitted for people's review of others experience & encouragement.

Lastly, I too have experience/history with exercise , nutrition in conjunction

to martial arts. Here is me, now at 46 years old. Picture is worth a 1000

words.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs290.snc4/40835_1350577361161_11331\

69265_30803205_503308_n.jpg

My actions are my credentials, not my diplomas No disrespect to you, that's

just me. Nonetheless and regardless I respect your advice and share your

fitness enthusiasm.

With Appreciation,

Ed

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[Guest guest]

Hi Alison, I'm always intregued by your stuggle - having stugggled greatly as a

family ourselves and wonder if you should try all those things I suggested for

corrine. Do you take the electrolyte drink? Are you very careful of your ratios?

Would you consider going on the all meat and fat diet? Have you tried the hcl

again recently, I think this hurdle is a crucial one, it was very very big for

us but we had to do it so slow. The other thing we do which really helps, but is

only possible once you can tolerate lots of fats is just eating twice a day.

This gives your digestive system lots of time to process everything so you are

not building up a back log of undigested material that the mico organisms then

have to come and clean up for you. Those of us battling with severe digestive

issues have our work cut out for us, but by golly its worth it! (Don't worry

about reacting to the protein in the butter, I'm convinced that as candida

sufferes we are having problems with the milk sugar.)

>

> Hi, I too feel as though the diet is not working as well as it should - my

digestion is awful at the moment and has got progressively worse - to the extent

that I now have gastroparesis - food sitting in my stomach for hours (last night

I ate at around 6pm and my stomach didn't empty until 3am this morning - and all

I had was pureed chicken and broccoli with the veg water!!!

>

> It is keeping me awake - most nights I am not asleep until at least 2am and I

am exhausted.

>

> You may have something with the butter. That has been a constant right

through the 2 years of the SCD followed by the last 9 months I have been on

Bee's Diet. I have tried not having butter in the past for maybe a week or so

but maybe I was not off it long enough to see any real difference.

>

> I have some ghee in the fridge, and I am also thinking of getting some goats'

butter to use instead, as the s-beta 1 protein in that apparently does not

trigger reactions like the s-alpha 1 protein in cows milk.

>

> I am not absorbing the nutrition as I feel I should be and the butter could be

driving continuous damage in my gut. It is very common that those with Celiac

Disease also have issues with casein and the proteins in soy and corn, as well

as gluten.

>

> Until I can get my digestion working properly, I can't hope to be healing

anything like I should be at this stage.

>

> Ali.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Alison, Sorry forgot to sign! Best wishes from(a very tired) !

> >

> > Hi Corrine, we too were on scd for a couple of years and then moved on to

Gaps inbetween. We found a tremendous difference in our healing coming here. The

biggest as Bee says is the fats, were you really on those sorts of ratios on

scd?

> > One thing I could suggest which has really worked for us has been replacing

butter for ghee, I think some people with really compromised guts can not

process any lactose. We all went into a big healing crissis when we came off it.

Same also went for the lemon, which again we weren't tolerating. I only suggest

these extreme measures for people in trouble long term with the diet, and

actually there are very few of them.

> > Its difficult to estimate how poorly you are with chronic illness and

therefore how far you have to go. My daughter was very very obviously poorly,

but everything that she has had trouble with I do too. We spend most of our

energy in the kitchen on fats and preparing the softest and most digestible

meats. We care less and less about the veg and infact have recently experimented

with not having any - and feel fabulous! Do you eat plenty of eggs and fish? Are

you taking your hcl in the right dose?

> > All the best

> >

> > .

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again Corrine, well you poor thing, I can so sympathise, it sounds so similar

to what our family struggled through! I would be so interested to know what the

answers to the questions that I asked.I would be especially interested to hear

if you had managed to eat as much fat on scd as you are meant to do on this

program and indeed had managed to avoid the sweet veg like squash and carrots -

we didn't!!

The other thing I didn't have time to discus was the mercury fillings. I

wondered had you caught some of the discussion we had recently about toxicity

and vaccinations. If you look at my last few messages there should be quite a

bit. My daughter was poisoned by PCB's which are also a neurological poison and

we tried so many different forms of chelation without any success. I believe

that when you are overloaded with internal toxicity you can not cope with any

enviromental ones. At her sickest I could not take my daughter into shops or

supermarkets, town halls or museums or other people's homes. Her body was so

overloaded that she couldn't detoxify at all. FATS are essential in repairing

especially the nervous system. Taking your fillings out now (which would release

more murcury into your body)when you are still healing would add insult to

injury. Sorry not to be able to write more today, but do feel free to ask if I

can help further.

All the best

>

> ,

>

> I have actually been thinking that it might be emotional stress that is

keeping me this way. Candida has really thrown a huge dent in my marriage. I am

constantly tired and sick, and have constant vaginal issues therefore it is

EXTREMELY difficult to be intimate in any way. My husband is amazing and takes

such good care of me. But he is not feeling loved at all w/ the lack of

intimacy. We try to do things together for him (sorry if its too much info) but

it still isn't quite the same. We also can't enjoy the things we used to do

together. We always used to cook together, but he has no interest in doing it

anymore with this diet. He loves to bake, but there really is not much baking on

this diet. We loved going out to eat and trying new foods, but thats not an

option. He really has been very supportive, but it still doesn't fix things.

Both of our " buckets " are empty and we just can't seem to fill them. Not to

mention we have 3 young children, one that is autistic, also on the diet. Our

life is super stressful and we just can't seem to find any rest or relief. Which

unfortunately seems like it will never end until I am better, but I can't get

better if I'm under constant stress, so its just a vicious cycle.

>

> Corinne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Corinne. I have had the same issues myself regarding doing this a long time

and not being as far along as I'd like to be myself. I started a candida diet

in Feb 09 then went to Gaps in April and then found the intro online in Sept and

did that for 11 months with no cheating except for on New Years. Actually it

was a 4 day cheat and then been 100 percent since then and switched to Bee's

diet in beginning of August. Although, like you, I was pretty much on it

already because I wasn't eating fruit or nuts. Just soup all day long pretty

much. What has helped me since getting on Bee's diet is adding back in the

foods that I thought I was allergic to and adding a little more fat.

But I have had my ups and downs since August as well and even today isn't one of

my better days. I'm still very sensitive to certain foods and if I eat to much

of a certain food it can throw me off for a couple days. But I just wanted to

say how important it is to try to decrease the stress load on yourself. I know

first hand that stress can cause you to go nowhere.

I know when I am not feeling better I have to find out what I'm doing wrong with

the program. It might be something as simple as eating too much coconut oil.

It took me 6 weeks to figure out I added too much coconut oil to my diet and

then I had to decrease it and feel like I have been healing every week since. I

know you have been on this diet forever and I feel your pain but you have to

take it slow. If you're not feeling well I suggest take a few days off of foods

you know you're sensitive to and a few days off of coconut oil until you feel

better. Then add back the foods in slowly.

I know when I add in too many healing foods at one time it causes my depression

to become real bad which stresses me out which causes me to not heal and go

backwards. Not feeling good in itself can be stressful. Hopefully my

suggestions help. Good Luck, Danny.

> > > >

> > > > > +++Hi Corinne. The SCD is very different from my program and that's

why

> > > so many people come here after trying it. The major difference is the high

> > > " good " fats, cod liver oil, lower carbs, and many others of course. It's

the

> > > good fats on my program that are very important! Of course all of the

> > > nutrients, including supplements, on my program work together.

> > > > >

> > > > > +++You say you switched to my program - so how long have you been on

> > > it, since it takes time to heal and detoxify naturally, and the SCD

doesn't

> > > do what my program does. What difference do you expect to have?

> > > > >

> > > > > +++What kind of relief are you expecting?

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > +++The high good fats in combination with cod liver oil, etc. work

> > > together to naturally chelate out all heavy metals, so it isn't advisable

to

> > > replace any fillings, and it isn't necessary on this program.

> > > >

> > > > > +++I'm not medical, so please I wouldn't know what diastasis recti is.

> > > Please explain more about that condition, and how it affects you.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > +++That great you know this is the right diet. So I think you just

need

> > > to learn more about how the body heals and detoxifies itself naturally -

> > > take your time reading these articles:

> > > > > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php

> > > > >

> > > > > All the best, Bee

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