Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 What exactly is NADH can someone please tell me? In @y..., " jay igert " <JCKCI@l...> wrote: > Does anyone know if nadh will effect a medication. The doctor has me on Wellbutrin I was sure if there would be a reaction. > > Caren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 , NADH stands for nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide, also called coenzyme 1. It is a substance our bodies need to convert food into energy. It has also been found to have 4 other functions: 1)cell regulation and DNA repair; 2)enhancement of the immune system by increasing the effectiveness of WBC function; 3)it destroys free radicals; and 4)it increases the production of adrenaline and dopamine which are necessary to stimulate strength, movement, coordination, alertness, cognitive functions, mood, sex drive, and growth hormone secretions. Dr. Birkmayer has done a large study on NADH and how it has been found to be beneficial to sufferers of CFS. He has written a text (I'm not sure if this means a book or simply the results of the study) " The Energizing Coenzyme. " Apparently the study he did at town University Medical Center indicated that it had enough benefit where the FDA approved NADH for evaluation as a medical treatment. e > What exactly is NADH can someone please tell me? > > > > > > In @y..., " jay igert " <JCKCI@l...> wrote: > > Does anyone know if nadh will effect a medication. The doctor has > me on Wellbutrin I was sure if there would be a reaction. > > > > Caren > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 I did find it on vitamin shoppe.com too but haven't ordered it yet. I am feeling pretty good again, today I worked out and did light weights and lots of stretching in between and felt pretty good. I am getting over a nasty sore throat. I talked to Dr Blais office today and they told me all saline implants have defective valves and they all allow fluid to go back and forth in the body creating many problems. I know everyone here already knows this stuff, it just really freaks me out that these things are being put in women and they must know this is happening. How can this be? I don't get it at all. It just seems so disgusting that the FDA approved something that can ruin your health like this. I am more sure than ever now that I am suffering some kind of infection with some kind of bugs from my implants. I do feel I will recover eventually but I am angry at the manufacturers of these implants that are making all this money off of women who just want to be beautiful and look like all the models and actresses and women on tv and in magazines. I am beginning to realize also that allot of these women we think have implants are wearing falsies and gel bras etc. If anyone saw the movie Miss congeniality you know what I am talking about. We are all being fooled into thinking everyone in hollywood has perfect breasts when in fact I think allot of the women we see may have implants, but allot of them in fact are wearing prosthetic type devices as well. ARG...can you tell I am angry today. e are you taking the NADH? well I will probably go ahead and order some and also I am going to get some more MSM etc.... In @y..., eRene@a... wrote: > , > > The NADH is only available through ProHealth. Their > website is www.immunesupport.com. The name of it is > ENADA. It isn't cheap, but I don't think it's terribly > expensive. > > The study on NADH is available in the ls of Allergy, > Asthma, and Immunology (Vol 82, pp 185-191, Feb 1999). > The cost of the NADH (for 30 tablets) is $19.95. You > take 1-2 tablets/day. The cost for 60 tabs is $36.95. > > If you'd like to order the catalog, which is also where > I get my MSM and malic acid, the # is 800-366-6056. No > one else is selling NADH as of yet, and probably won't > for a while. > > Let me know if you have any more questions or need any > more info. > > e > > Patty, > > I am really really glad to hear that your doing better finally, I > > hope that it lasts and that you will finally get rid of the awful > > brain fog. I think there is still hope for us all, and when I look > > back at how awful I felt when I still had my implants I know that I > > took the right advise and did the right thing for my health by > > removing them. I am also blessed that my husband is so supportive and > > loving and how he tells me my breasts are beautiful and all > > that ...it means alot. I realize my breasts will never be huge or > > voluptuous but they are small and fit the rest of me, and these new > > gel bras are great, even better than the waterbras these things > > bounce like real boobs are look so great under tight slinky tops. I > > feel fantastic about how I look in them. > > I am back on the supplements and will give them a good go again > > before I take a break from them. I really want to try the NADH but I > > haven't been able to find it around here yet. > > Well, just wanted to say that I think it is great all the hard work > > you have put into this site and how much I look forward to reading > > these posts everyday. > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > > > > In @y..., " Patty " <faussettdp@m...> wrote: > > > Hi Ladies, > > > Just wanted to share with you that I have been feeling really, > > really good. > > > > > > I have been doing my intramuscular B12 shots every other day, as > > well as eating alot of garlic. : ) I think the B12 shots were one > > of my missing links where the brain fog is concerned. I should have > > been doing these much, much more regularly, especially with the > > diagnosis of macrocytosis, which my doctor NEVER discussed with me. > > > > > > I've found a way to actually EAT alot of raw garlic, and I have > > found myself craving it all the time now. I know garlic is a wonder > > herb, but I have always had a hard time getting it in ways other than > > in spaghetti sauce or other foods as a seasoning. I couldn't > > understand how some people could eat 12 cloves of garlic in one day! > > > > > > Well, I found out. I eat alot of caesar salad, for one (that recipe > > I posted), but I also have started eating garlic with my bread, > > wrapping each clove or half a large clove in wad of bread and chewing > > them together. It was strong initially, but now, I am craving it. I > > also eat it occasionally with plain chicken breasts, clove by clove. > > I never would have thought of it, except I read that is how the > > Greeks eat garlic sometimes. I can easily eat 6 or more cloves in > > one sitting. > > > > > > So, I am getting lots of garlic, and hopefully killing things. The > > only down side is the social aspect. Geez. I picked up my teenage > > son and his friends at the movies the other night and while we were > > driving home one kid says, " What's that smell? " !!! I wanted to die > > of embarrasment!! > > > > > > Oh well. Funny stuff to look back on. > > > Patty > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 , The reason I recommended immunesupport was that the study exclusively used the NADH from them. No other NADH has been studied other than the ENADA NADH. And this site deals only with people who have FMS/CFS, so all their products are geared towards us. And very few of them contain silica or silicon dioxide. I don't know why women would want to look like they have bigger breasts, period. Even after my explant, while I like the results, I still feel that my breasts are too big. I'm starting a diet, so I hope that I lose some weight in my breasts. I am always wearing big, baggy shirts to hide my breasts. And I'm always looking for bras in 's Secret that might " smush " them down. And everything they have is padded, or lightly padded, or push up or whatever. It makes me want to puke!! No, I am not taking the NADH because one of the rx meds I'm now could potentially interact with it. But if I get off the rx med, I do plan to try it, as everything I've read about NADH is incredible. So, if you get it, you'll have to let us all know. And remember, it may take up to 4-6 wks to begin working, so don't give up!! Take care, e > I did find it on vitamin shoppe.com too but haven't ordered it yet. I > am feeling pretty good again, today I worked out and did light > weights and lots of stretching in between and felt pretty good. I am > getting over a nasty sore throat. I talked to Dr Blais office today > and they told me all saline implants have defective valves and they > all allow fluid to go back and forth in the body creating many > problems. I know everyone here already knows this stuff, it just > really freaks me out that these things are being put in women and > they must know this is happening. How can this be? I don't get it at > all. It just seems so disgusting that the FDA approved something that > can ruin your health like this. I am more sure than ever now that I > am suffering some kind of infection with some kind of bugs from my > implants. I do feel I will recover eventually but I am angry at the > manufacturers of these implants that are making all this money off of > women who just want to be beautiful and look like all the models and > actresses and women on tv and in magazines. I am beginning to realize > also that allot of these women we think have implants are wearing > falsies and gel bras etc. If anyone saw the movie Miss congeniality > you know what I am talking about. We are all being fooled into > thinking everyone in hollywood has perfect breasts when in fact I > think allot of the women we see may have implants, but allot of them > in fact are wearing prosthetic type devices as well. ARG...can you > tell I am angry today. > > e are you taking the NADH? well I will probably go ahead and > order some and also I am going to get some more MSM etc.... > > > > > > > In @y..., eRene@a... wrote: > > , > > > > The NADH is only available through ProHealth. Their > > website is www.immunesupport.com. The name of it is > > ENADA. It isn't cheap, but I don't think it's terribly > > expensive. > > > > The study on NADH is available in the ls of Allergy, > > Asthma, and Immunology (Vol 82, pp 185-191, Feb 1999). > > The cost of the NADH (for 30 tablets) is $19.95. You > > take 1-2 tablets/day. The cost for 60 tabs is $36.95. > > > > If you'd like to order the catalog, which is also where > > I get my MSM and malic acid, the # is 800-366-6056. No > > one else is selling NADH as of yet, and probably won't > > for a while. > > > > Let me know if you have any more questions or need any > > more info. > > > > e > > > Patty, > > > I am really really glad to hear that your doing better finally, I > > > hope that it lasts and that you will finally get rid of the awful > > > brain fog. I think there is still hope for us all, and when I > look > > > back at how awful I felt when I still had my implants I know that > I > > > took the right advise and did the right thing for my health by > > > removing them. I am also blessed that my husband is so supportive > and > > > loving and how he tells me my breasts are beautiful and all > > > that ...it means alot. I realize my breasts will never be huge or > > > voluptuous but they are small and fit the rest of me, and these > new > > > gel bras are great, even better than the waterbras these things > > > bounce like real boobs are look so great under tight slinky tops. > I > > > feel fantastic about how I look in them. > > > I am back on the supplements and will give them a good go again > > > before I take a break from them. I really want to try the NADH > but I > > > haven't been able to find it around here yet. > > > Well, just wanted to say that I think it is great all the hard > work > > > you have put into this site and how much I look forward to > reading > > > these posts everyday. > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In @y..., " Patty " <faussettdp@m...> wrote: > > > > Hi Ladies, > > > > Just wanted to share with you that I have been feeling really, > > > really good. > > > > > > > > I have been doing my intramuscular B12 shots every other day, > as > > > well as eating alot of garlic. : ) I think the B12 shots were > one > > > of my missing links where the brain fog is concerned. I should > have > > > been doing these much, much more regularly, especially with the > > > diagnosis of macrocytosis, which my doctor NEVER discussed with > me. > > > > > > > > I've found a way to actually EAT alot of raw garlic, and I have > > > found myself craving it all the time now. I know garlic is a > wonder > > > herb, but I have always had a hard time getting it in ways other > than > > > in spaghetti sauce or other foods as a seasoning. I couldn't > > > understand how some people could eat 12 cloves of garlic in one > day! > > > > > > > > Well, I found out. I eat alot of caesar salad, for one (that > recipe > > > I posted), but I also have started eating garlic with my bread, > > > wrapping each clove or half a large clove in wad of bread and > chewing > > > them together. It was strong initially, but now, I am craving > it. I > > > also eat it occasionally with plain chicken breasts, clove by > clove. > > > I never would have thought of it, except I read that is how the > > > Greeks eat garlic sometimes. I can easily eat 6 or more cloves > in > > > one sitting. > > > > > > > > So, I am getting lots of garlic, and hopefully killing things. > The > > > only down side is the social aspect. Geez. I picked up my > teenage > > > son and his friends at the movies the other night and while we > were > > > driving home one kid says, " What's that smell? " !!! I wanted to > die > > > of embarrasment!! > > > > > > > > Oh well. Funny stuff to look back on. > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Well I don't know how you ended up with too big of breasts after explant, I am curious, did you gain allot of weight since then. What made you get implants in the first place if you didn't like big breasts? I know I only got them to fill out the sag I had after gaining and loosing allot of weight and of course after having a baby. Anyhow, I just like being proportioned and filling out my clothes. I am pretty small, at 5'3 " and 125 pounds(that is 5 pounds more than I like to be " sigh " )but am only an A cup and really liked being a nice C cup. I do think my implants looked nice, but def not worth what they did to my health. Thankyou for the advise about the website, I will probably order some from them. You mentioned being on rx meds that might interact, I am curious what these might be as I take some rx meds myself. Let me know. I appreciate your help and knowledge in these areas thanks so much. In @y..., eRene@a... wrote: > , > > The reason I recommended immunesupport was that the > study exclusively used the NADH from them. No other > NADH has been studied other than the ENADA NADH. And > this site deals only with people who have FMS/CFS, so > all their products are geared towards us. And very few > of them contain silica or silicon dioxide. > > I don't know why women would want to look like they have > bigger breasts, period. Even after my explant, while I > like the results, I still feel that my breasts are too > big. I'm starting a diet, so I hope that I lose some > weight in my breasts. I am always wearing big, baggy > shirts to hide my breasts. And I'm always looking for > bras in 's Secret that might " smush " them down. > And everything they have is padded, or lightly padded, > or push up or whatever. It makes me want to puke!! > > No, I am not taking the NADH because one of the rx meds > I'm now could potentially interact with it. But if I > get off the rx med, I do plan to try it, as everything > I've read about NADH is incredible. So, if you get it, > you'll have to let us all know. And remember, it may > take up to 4-6 wks to begin working, so don't give up!! > > Take care, > e > > I did find it on vitamin shoppe.com too but haven't ordered it yet. I > > am feeling pretty good again, today I worked out and did light > > weights and lots of stretching in between and felt pretty good. I am > > getting over a nasty sore throat. I talked to Dr Blais office today > > and they told me all saline implants have defective valves and they > > all allow fluid to go back and forth in the body creating many > > problems. I know everyone here already knows this stuff, it just > > really freaks me out that these things are being put in women and > > they must know this is happening. How can this be? I don't get it at > > all. It just seems so disgusting that the FDA approved something that > > can ruin your health like this. I am more sure than ever now that I > > am suffering some kind of infection with some kind of bugs from my > > implants. I do feel I will recover eventually but I am angry at the > > manufacturers of these implants that are making all this money off of > > women who just want to be beautiful and look like all the models and > > actresses and women on tv and in magazines. I am beginning to realize > > also that allot of these women we think have implants are wearing > > falsies and gel bras etc. If anyone saw the movie Miss congeniality > > you know what I am talking about. We are all being fooled into > > thinking everyone in hollywood has perfect breasts when in fact I > > think allot of the women we see may have implants, but allot of them > > in fact are wearing prosthetic type devices as well. ARG...can you > > tell I am angry today. > > > > e are you taking the NADH? well I will probably go ahead and > > order some and also I am going to get some more MSM etc.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In @y..., eRene@a... wrote: > > > , > > > > > > The NADH is only available through ProHealth. Their > > > website is www.immunesupport.com. The name of it is > > > ENADA. It isn't cheap, but I don't think it's terribly > > > expensive. > > > > > > The study on NADH is available in the ls of Allergy, > > > Asthma, and Immunology (Vol 82, pp 185-191, Feb 1999). > > > The cost of the NADH (for 30 tablets) is $19.95. You > > > take 1-2 tablets/day. The cost for 60 tabs is $36.95. > > > > > > If you'd like to order the catalog, which is also where > > > I get my MSM and malic acid, the # is 800-366-6056. No > > > one else is selling NADH as of yet, and probably won't > > > for a while. > > > > > > Let me know if you have any more questions or need any > > > more info. > > > > > > e > > > > Patty, > > > > I am really really glad to hear that your doing better finally, I > > > > hope that it lasts and that you will finally get rid of the awful > > > > brain fog. I think there is still hope for us all, and when I > > look > > > > back at how awful I felt when I still had my implants I know that > > I > > > > took the right advise and did the right thing for my health by > > > > removing them. I am also blessed that my husband is so supportive > > and > > > > loving and how he tells me my breasts are beautiful and all > > > > that ...it means alot. I realize my breasts will never be huge or > > > > voluptuous but they are small and fit the rest of me, and these > > new > > > > gel bras are great, even better than the waterbras these things > > > > bounce like real boobs are look so great under tight slinky tops. > > I > > > > feel fantastic about how I look in them. > > > > I am back on the supplements and will give them a good go again > > > > before I take a break from them. I really want to try the NADH > > but I > > > > haven't been able to find it around here yet. > > > > Well, just wanted to say that I think it is great all the hard > > work > > > > you have put into this site and how much I look forward to > > reading > > > > these posts everyday. > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In @y..., " Patty " <faussettdp@m...> wrote: > > > > > Hi Ladies, > > > > > Just wanted to share with you that I have been feeling really, > > > > really good. > > > > > > > > > > I have been doing my intramuscular B12 shots every other day, > > as > > > > well as eating alot of garlic. : ) I think the B12 shots were > > one > > > > of my missing links where the brain fog is concerned. I should > > have > > > > been doing these much, much more regularly, especially with the > > > > diagnosis of macrocytosis, which my doctor NEVER discussed with > > me. > > > > > > > > > > I've found a way to actually EAT alot of raw garlic, and I have > > > > found myself craving it all the time now. I know garlic is a > > wonder > > > > herb, but I have always had a hard time getting it in ways other > > than > > > > in spaghetti sauce or other foods as a seasoning. I couldn't > > > > understand how some people could eat 12 cloves of garlic in one > > day! > > > > > > > > > > Well, I found out. I eat alot of caesar salad, for one (that > > recipe > > > > I posted), but I also have started eating garlic with my bread, > > > > wrapping each clove or half a large clove in wad of bread and > > chewing > > > > them together. It was strong initially, but now, I am craving > > it. I > > > > also eat it occasionally with plain chicken breasts, clove by > > clove. > > > > I never would have thought of it, except I read that is how the > > > > Greeks eat garlic sometimes. I can easily eat 6 or more cloves > > in > > > > one sitting. > > > > > > > > > > So, I am getting lots of garlic, and hopefully killing things. > > The > > > > only down side is the social aspect. Geez. I picked up my > > teenage > > > > son and his friends at the movies the other night and while we > > were > > > > driving home one kid says, " What's that smell? " !!! I wanted to > > die > > > > of embarrasment!! > > > > > > > > > > Oh well. Funny stuff to look back on. > > > > > Patty > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 They do have it on the immune support page, it is called ENADALERT and they are 10mg sublingual.... In @y..., " jay igert " <JCKCI@l...> wrote: > How do you get the subliqual? I looked up immune support and I just see the ones you swallow. What is the brand? > > Caren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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