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Hello Jimmy:

I had trouble when I was upped to 30mg from 20mg. I got " heavy

head " , numbness in the head, dizzyness,sureal feelings etc. Fewlt

pretty awful! I am now back to a more realistic feeling since I

dropped my dose back to 20mg after reporting to my Pdoc and checking

with some folks here....I suggest you call your doc asap. FWIW,

research seems to indicate no difference in trials between 10-20mg

for depression. However, for anxiety, 20mg seems to to better in the

tests.

Regards

Jeff

> Hi..just joined the group because I am having trouble with

Lexapro.

> I've been taking 20 mg of it for about two weeks now and all of a

> sudden I am getting dizzy. When I turn my head I get a " swishy "

> sound and I feel like I am going to fall down. This is the same

way

> I felt when I weaned off Paxil. Does anyone know if upping their

> dosage can cause this? I was on 10mg without any problem at all.I

> really can't stand it anymore.

> Thanks much everyone.

> Jimmy

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Kim,

Coconut oil is good for the kidneys. It acts like a tonic on the kidneys.

It's antimicrobial properties also help kill infections. Some studies have

shown that it can dissolve kidney stones. It is also a detoxifier and

cleanser. As toxins are removed you may experience what is known as a

healing crisis. This is an intense period of cleansing that is usually

accompanied by some discomfort. This may be what you are experiencing. These

symptoms only last a few days and they are not harmful. They are a sign that

the body is healing itself.

Bruce

Newbie question

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> Hello!

>

> I am new to this list and to coconut oil. I do have a question.

>

> I started using coconut oil about a week ago. I am using organic

> unrefined oil. I started with just one tablespoon on the first day,

> just to be sure I would have no adverse reaction. The 2nd day I

> increased to 2 tablespoons, and on the 3rd day and every day since I

> have used 3 tablespoons per day. I mix the liquid oil into a fruit

> smoothie each morning.

>

> This morning when I awoke I had a nasty pain in my lower back, on the

> left side. Throughout the day I have tried ibuprofen, aspirin and a

> warm tub soak to try to get some relief from the pain, but nothing

> has helped. I have read that coconut oil has traditionally been used

> for breaking up kidney stones. Though I have never had a problem

> (that I have known of) with my kidneys or with stones, I am wondering

> if perhaps the coconut oil could have caused an unknown stone to

> break up, causing me this pain?

>

> Any thoughts on this? The coconut oil is the only thing I can think

> of that has been different for me recently.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Kim

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Sandy, since Nina told me that Dr. A thought I was over eating or

eating too close to bed time, I have been trying to eat less and not

eat a couple of hours before bed time, the acid relux has been a lot

better. But if it does start to act up I just chew some Tums. I

hardly have any attacks now.

Deborah F.

>

> It is normal to feel like you swallowed a golfball...try sleeping

propped up, and make sure you take tiny sips of your liquids. Warm

seems to work better than cold.

>

>

> BIG HUGS, AND GOD'S BLESSINGS

> Dawnita May

> Lowpass, Oregon

> 10/05/05 dob " Iraida " 209/190/135 5ft 3inches

> " before " photos at: http://dawnita1961.myphotoalbum.com/

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hi

A NSV is a non scale victory. They are even more

gratifying than weight loss--sometimes! Welcome to

the board. You will find answers to all your

questions here.

Penny

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>

> Is it ok to put a few tablespoons of the oil in a small glass cup and

> microwave it for a few seconds to sofften it up?

No food in our house touches a microwave anymore. It diminishes

nutrient content of everything. There are several articles written

about the dangers of microwaves. Here's a good summary:

http://www.bodyecology.com/07/08/02/microwave_dangers.php

When I need to melt coconut oil, I put some into a small ramekin and

set on the stove next to something I'm cooking. You can also melt it

with hot water.

-vanessa

.... throw the microwave out

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If your oatmeal is hot when you add the coconut oil, then there is no need to

microwave it. It will melt right on the oatmeal.

& nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; IN NC

Wilkins

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From: sparky7722 & lt;Spark777@... & gt;

Subject: Newbie Question

Coconut Oil

Date: Sunday, June 15, 2008, 5:22 PM

Hello All,

I'm very new to the coconut oil community but after a week of research

on the oil, I am totally convinced that it can work miracles for ones

health and well being.

I have a very simple question. My wife and I want to add the oil to our

oatmeal every morning and it mixes best in a liquid form. We live in

the Pacific Northwest where the nights are cool and the oil is very

stiff after being left out on the counter all night.

Is it ok to put a few tablespoons of the oil in a small glass cup and

microwave it for a few seconds to sofften it up? If the oil is

microwaved even for a few second, does it in any way diminish it's

healthy properties?

Thank you,

and Patti

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You do not want to take a wonderful pure food like coconut oil and

ruin even a bit of it with a microwave oven.

Putting food or water or anything of any kind into a microwave is to

turn it into a non-food, non-water.

A woman was in the hospital for a routine surgery and there were no

complications expected. At one point, it was decided she should have

another pint of blood. The lady died. Why? The nurse who got the

blood warmed it in a microwave oven and this is the only reason they

can determine that it killed her. The story was on the Mercola site

and you can Search it within his website, www.mercola.com

Ever since I read that story, I figure, if the microwave made the

blood into a non-blood, it makes food into a non-food.

Another time, someone sent me pictures of several plants. Some had

been watered with regular tap water and some had been watered with

microwaved water cooled to room temperature. All those watered with

the microwaved water died. Since it was an unsigned email from an

unknown source, it could have been a hoax so I have been meaning to

do the test myself but haven't yet. If anyone does this test, please

let me know the outcome, if you would.

I have never owned a microwave thinking that one day they will find

something wrong with it.

There is only one good place for a microwave and that is in the

garbage.

Lennia

>

> Hello All,

>

> I'm very new to the coconut oil community but after a week of

research

> on the oil, I am totally convinced that it can work miracles for

ones

> health and well being.

>

> I have a very simple question. My wife and I want to add the oil to

our

> oatmeal every morning and it mixes best in a liquid form. We live

in

> the Pacific Northwest where the nights are cool and the oil is very

> stiff after being left out on the counter all night.

>

> Is it ok to put a few tablespoons of the oil in a small glass cup

and

> microwave it for a few seconds to sofften it up? If the oil is

> microwaved even for a few second, does it in any way diminish it's

> healthy properties?

>

> Thank you,

>

> and Patti

>

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I heat a bowl of water in the microwave and place a glass jar of coconut oil in

the warm water. By the time I am ready for it, it is melted. Or sometimes my DH

will do this for me before I get up :) Then he sets it (bowl and all) on a Mr.

Coffee mug warmer.

Chris/MI

> From: sparky7722 <Spark777@...>

>> I have a very simple question. My wife and I want to add

> the oil to our

> oatmeal every morning and it mixes best in a liquid form.

> We live in

> the Pacific Northwest where the nights are cool and the oil

> is very

> stiff after being left out on the counter all night.

>>

> Thank you,

>

> and Patti

>

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http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

> Another time, someone sent me pictures of several plants.

> Some had

> been watered with regular tap water and some had been

> watered with

> microwaved water cooled to room temperature. All those

> watered with

> the microwaved water died. Since it was an unsigned email

> from an

> unknown source, it could have been a hoax so I have been

> meaning to

> do the test myself but haven't yet. If anyone does

> this test, please

> let me know the outcome, if you would.

>

> Lennia

>

> /info/terms/

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I actually did this experiment myself, with cucumber seeds. Started in

pop up peat pots. One each: tap water, microwaved water, boiled water

(stove top). I boiled each of the last two to the exact same

temperature, and cooled.

I also ran a control, with 3 peat pots all watered entirely with tap

water, to see the natural variation on sprouting and growth progress.

There was no difference in the boiled tap water or microwaved water that

was outside normal variation. All plants thrived, all were transplanted

into the garden in due time, all grew well in the garden also.

sol

Fox wrote:

> http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

>

>

>

>

>> Another time, someone sent me pictures of several plants.

>> Some had

>> been watered with regular tap water and some had been

>> watered with

>> microwaved water cooled to room temperature. All those

>> watered with

>> the microwaved water died.

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Hi Vicki,

I HATE salt so it was very hard for me also. Someone on here

suggested I mix it with some warm water and sip it through a straw so

you don't taste it as much. It helps some.

Janie

>

> Hi folks,

>

> I am on day three of supplementing with Iodoral at 25 mg/daily. I

took

> the 50 mg on Monday with the loading test. I am using 2000 to 3000

> Vit. C as recommended, 200 mg selenium, and also trying to do the

salt

> loading. I am pretty sure I will be very bromine toxic, among other

> things so I want to get my body ready for detoxing when I increase

the

> Iodoral.

>

> My question is regarding the salt loading. I have tried adding 1/4

> tsp. sea salt to my water for drinking and well, I can drink it but

> it's pretty nasty. How do you all do the salt loading in a way that

is

> less nasty? My brain just isn't coming up with better options.

Thanks

> so much. My only symptoms right now are deep fatigue, but that's

not a

> new symptoms. I am thinking of increasing the Iodoral this weekend

to

> 37.5 mg. Is that foolish to do it so soon?

>

> Thanks so much! I appreciate you being here!

> Vicki

> in Indiana

>

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I put it with OJ and that works.

Steph

Re: newbie question

> Hi Vicki,

> I HATE salt so it was very hard for me also. Someone on here

> suggested I mix it with some warm water and sip it through a straw so

> you don't taste it as much. It helps some.

> Janie

>

>>

>> Hi folks,

>>

>> I am on day three of supplementing with Iodoral at 25 mg/daily. I

> took

>> the 50 mg on Monday with the loading test. I am using 2000 to 3000

>> Vit. C as recommended, 200 mg selenium, and also trying to do the

> salt

>> loading. I am pretty sure I will be very bromine toxic, among other

>> things so I want to get my body ready for detoxing when I increase

> the

>> Iodoral.

>>

>> My question is regarding the salt loading. I have tried adding 1/4

>> tsp. sea salt to my water for drinking and well, I can drink it but

>> it's pretty nasty. How do you all do the salt loading in a way that

> is

>> less nasty? My brain just isn't coming up with better options.

> Thanks

>> so much. My only symptoms right now are deep fatigue, but that's

> not a

>> new symptoms. I am thinking of increasing the Iodoral this weekend

> to

>> 37.5 mg. Is that foolish to do it so soon?

>>

>> Thanks so much! I appreciate you being here!

>> Vicki

>> in Indiana

>>

>

>

>

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I put mine in gel caps, you can get them online, or at the healthfood

store,

My son seen them, Be careful mom, they look just like meth, He was an

addict, Well, I sure once your and addict, your always one, So, He's

a sobber addict, He wants me to go to A narcotic meeting, for my

benzos, He has been clean for over 5 years, He probly wants to show

of his narcotic Mother, OH HOW PROUD,,,,,,

Good Luck, It works for me, The gel caps,

> >>

> >> Hi folks,

> >>

> >> I am on day three of supplementing with Iodoral at 25 mg/daily.

I

> > took

> >> the 50 mg on Monday with the loading test. I am using 2000 to

3000

> >> Vit. C as recommended, 200 mg selenium, and also trying to do

the

> > salt

> >> loading. I am pretty sure I will be very bromine toxic, among

other

> >> things so I want to get my body ready for detoxing when I

increase

> > the

> >> Iodoral.

> >>

> >> My question is regarding the salt loading. I have tried adding

1/4

> >> tsp. sea salt to my water for drinking and well, I can drink it

but

> >> it's pretty nasty. How do you all do the salt loading in a way

that

> > is

> >> less nasty? My brain just isn't coming up with better options.

> > Thanks

> >> so much. My only symptoms right now are deep fatigue, but that's

> > not a

> >> new symptoms. I am thinking of increasing the Iodoral this

weekend

> > to

> >> 37.5 mg. Is that foolish to do it so soon?

> >>

> >> Thanks so much! I appreciate you being here!

> >> Vicki

> >> in Indiana

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks everyone for your ideas on salt. I will experiment with those

ideas and see how I do.

Has anyone had mouth (gum) sores as a detox symptom? I have only been

on Iodoral this week, but now have three sore places on my gums within

the last 24 hours. No other changes to my diet or oral cleansing care.

I can put up with the sores, but it is a little worrisome if detox is

not the cause. Thanks again for your help!

I also have a slight fever and chills tonight. My temp is only 98.2,

but I generally run pretty low. (Undiagnosed hypothyroid? probably) My

dr. only checks your TSH which was fine, even with the new guidelines.

Yeah, I know, it doesn't tell you a thing about whether you actually

make T4 or T3, but I'm trying to work with him. Figure getting the

iodine into my system will help and he did let me have the loading test.

Thanks again, you guys are the best!

Blessings-

Vicki

in Indiana

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I hate salt, too, and can't tolerate it in water. So right, wrong, or

indifferent, I take the salt straight - and wash down with a glass of

water.

Cheryl

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I hate salt, too, and can't tolerate it in water. So right, wrong, or

indifferent, I take the salt straight - and wash down with a glass of

water.

Cheryl

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I just add the salt to my food like we did in the old days just on top of whatever I happen to be eating at the table or in the glass. Stir it up in cold or warmish foods. Can't do the salt water thing as would gag. Seems to be working just fine. Pam

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I hate salt, too, and can't tolerate it in water. So right, wrong, or indifferent, I take the salt straight - and wash down with a glass of water.Cheryl

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I couldn't STAND the sea salt (don't remember brand name) in water

either--but then when I bought the brand Celtic Sea Salt, I found the

taste actually pleasant, and don't mind taking it at all in water.

>

> Hi folks,

>

> I am on day three of supplementing with Iodoral at 25 mg/daily. I

took

> the 50 mg on Monday with the loading test. I am using 2000 to 3000

> Vit. C as recommended, 200 mg selenium, and also trying to do the

salt

> loading. I am pretty sure I will be very bromine toxic, among other

> things so I want to get my body ready for detoxing when I increase

the

> Iodoral.

>

> My question is regarding the salt loading. I have tried adding 1/4

> tsp. sea salt to my water for drinking and well, I can drink it but

> it's pretty nasty. How do you all do the salt loading in a way that

is

> less nasty? My brain just isn't coming up with better options.

Thanks

> so much. My only symptoms right now are deep fatigue, but that's

not a

> new symptoms. I am thinking of increasing the Iodoral this weekend

to

> 37.5 mg. Is that foolish to do it so soon?

>

> Thanks so much! I appreciate you being here!

> Vicki

> in Indiana

>

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Pain does come and go. I have an elbow joint that will flare, then do okay for

awhile, then flare again. Its worse in the mornings and in the evenings. My son,

with arthritis hurt a lot during the night.And in the mornings. Most of the time

during the day, he would say he was fine.

Its so hard when they are little to sort out what is going on. Is an OT seeing

her for her wrist? What would they do to her wrist in surgery?

, adult onset RA, mom to Rob, juvenile ankylosing spondylitis

newbie question

> My daughter Lucy (6) was just diagnosed with JA. Her right

> wrist has

> been completely stiff for over two months. We didn't get

> referred to a

> ped. rheumatologist until early December and he started her on

> Naproxen

> and Prednisone. There was no improvement and so she is on

> methotrexate

> as well. Her wrist is so locked up that he has said that

> if she

> doesn't have range of motion in another 10 days or so we are

> looking ar

> surgery. This doc is the longest practicing ped.

> rheumatologist in my

> area and I have been assured by everyone that she is in very

> good hands.

>

> Anyway, that's my intro, here's my question. The pain

> started in her

> right wrist. Next she complained of pain in her right

> knee. Then it

> was in her left wrist. Then her jaw. Her jaw is

> clicking and she is

> having trouble opening her mouth very wide. She complains that

> it is

> painful to sleep on her side because her hips hurt and tonight

> she said

> her left ankle hurt and her left big toe.

>

> And here's the thing - she's not a complainer at all.

> She's the

> youngest of four and she has never complained about pain.

> I had to

> tell her that she needed to tell me if something hurts. So

> now she

> comes and casually tells me that her ankle or whatever hurts,

> but if I

> ask her if her knee still hurts she says no.

>

> The PT says she has weakness in her knee joint even though she

> is

> reporting no pain. So is it normal for pain to come and

> go? Or is she

> just adapting to it and then not noticing it?

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Amy

>

>

>

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Hi Amy,

The " surgery " you are talking about is probably a steroid joint

injection. Don't be afraid of this. My daughter's wrists were

affected when she was first diagnosed, and she had very limited

motion. Two weeks after joint injections, her range of motion was

normal. For my daughter, joint injections have always made a

tremendous difference. In fact, she is scheduled Dec 29th to have

her knee, wrist and ankles injected. The scariest part about joint

injections is the anesthesia, but it has always been more than worth

it for my daughter.

We also had a nightime wrist splint made that keeps my daughter's

wrist straight in a neutral position. She doesn't seem to mind

wearing it at all, and it prevents the wrist from remaining in a

downward position.

Take care, and I hope your daughter improves soon!

Sophie

's mom, systemic jra, age 8

>

> My daughter Lucy (6) was just diagnosed with JA. Her right wrist

has

> been completely stiff for over two months. We didn't get referred

to a

> ped. rheumatologist until early December and he started her on

Naproxen

> and Prednisone. There was no improvement and so she is on

methotrexate

> as well. Her wrist is so locked up that he has said that if she

> doesn't have range of motion in another 10 days or so we are

looking ar

> surgery. This doc is the longest practicing ped. rheumatologist in

my

> area and I have been assured by everyone that she is in very good

hands.

>

> Anyway, that's my intro, here's my question. The pain started in

her

> right wrist. Next she complained of pain in her right knee. Then

it

> was in her left wrist. Then her jaw. Her jaw is clicking and she

is

> having trouble opening her mouth very wide. She complains that it

is

> painful to sleep on her side because her hips hurt and tonight she

said

> her left ankle hurt and her left big toe.

>

> And here's the thing - she's not a complainer at all. She's the

> youngest of four and she has never complained about pain. I had to

> tell her that she needed to tell me if something hurts. So now she

> comes and casually tells me that her ankle or whatever hurts, but

if I

> ask her if her knee still hurts she says no.

>

> The PT says she has weakness in her knee joint even though she is

> reporting no pain. So is it normal for pain to come and go? Or is

she

> just adapting to it and then not noticing it?

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Amy

>

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She is seeing an OT for her wrist and she has gained some forward motion.

But it is locked going back and to the side. She has about 10 more days to

see if the methotrexate can reduce the inflammation and unlock it. I don't

think they are talking about a steroid injection. I think he wants to have

an orthopedic surgeon do a soft tissue release surgery and repair the

damaged tissue in her wrist joint.

It's weird to see the pain come and go. It'd be nice if the whole disease

was more clear cut, but I guess this is the roller coaster ride that I'm in

for, isn't it?

Amy

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I will tell you a little bit of our wrist story, and you can glean

whatever information that may help you. n's wrists froze like

your daughter's. She was on mtx at the time. The rheumy kept

telling us that the newly introduced enbrel would loosen them up.

They were totally frozen. This particular rheumy didn't do joint

injections. When I asked about them, (I had learned about them from

this list) he said he didn't do them, and he knew of no one to

recommend us to. We had just switched to Kaiser at the time so we

went to them for info. We had to go thru the normal routes.

Pediatrician first. She recommended us to an ortho for injections.

At our appt., the ortho said she would have to have wrist surgery. I

came out in tears. I called my husband. He called the new rheumy,

who just moved into town. He took her the next day and then gave her

joint injections into the wrist. In two days, voila! Good as new!

The Kaiser hand surgeon called about 4 weeks later to schedule an

appt., and I told them it wasn't necessary. Her wrists were fine.

Now whenever they freeze up again, I schedule an injection. Let's

see, it has been about 3 years since her last one.

n has systemic jra. We are in our 10th year. Good luck.

(n, 19, systemic, and just home for Christmas!!)

On Dec 23, 2008, at 9:54 AM, hendricksonhouseful wrote:

> She is seeing an OT for her wrist and she has gained some forward

> motion.

> But it is locked going back and to the side. She has about 10 more

> days to

> see if the methotrexate can reduce the inflammation and unlock it.

> I don't

> think they are talking about a steroid injection. I think he wants

> to have

> an orthopedic surgeon do a soft tissue release surgery and repair the

> damaged tissue in her wrist joint.

>

> It's weird to see the pain come and go. It'd be nice if the whole

> disease

> was more clear cut, but I guess this is the roller coaster ride

> that I'm in

> for, isn't it?

>

> Amy

>

>

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