Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Hi Patty, You bet ya.s manditory and has even gotten it when he went in on a sick visit last year.Never had any problems from it.Siblings and parents of a chronicly ill child should get them too. Hugs Becki and 6 systemic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Patty, I never allowed my kids to get the flu shot. My mother in law use to get them every year but she would get sick. My sister gets them every year and she does good with them, Since s immune system is low anyway and my hubbys I just try and keep them inside and up the vitamin C. And cross my fingers The shot would be worth it IF we knew if would react to it or my hubby since they both are sensitive. Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Patty, has had a flu shot every year since diagnosis. Both her pediatrician and her rheumatologist want her to get it. I believe that it is because of the meds more than the JRA itself but I wouldn't swear to that. :-) I'd ask Caitlin's pediatrician what he thinks. Liz Flu Shot Anyone? Hi All: I was reading AOL news and they mentioned who should get the flu vaccine, etc. Does anyone here get them for their children, themselves and family members? Any problems with them? I am thinking with Caitlin's JRA that she should get one. Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Hi Patty, Yes, Robbie and I get them -I had to have them every year in the military, and since retiring, working in a hospital it just makes sense too. I have NEVER gotten sick from a flu shot - had them for over 20 years now. Last year, Robbie got sick before I got him in for one - won't make that mistake this year, I don't think he had the flu last year - I think it was a 24 hr virus that caused his vomitting episode on top of the flare that put him in the hospital - but I don't like taking chances. It is the ONLY vaccine I have allowed Robbie to have since diagnosed. It is due to the meds lowering his bodie's immune system, not the JRA - though if not taking meds that do that, and if you have JRA, a bout with the flu could certainly trigger a flare. I would certainly discuss it with the ped and rheumy first - though all of Robbie's docs wanted him to have it (Nephrologist, Rheumatologist, and Pediatrician) and it was the only vaccine they have encouraged me to have him take since diagnosis. Val Rob's Mom (6,systemic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 In a message dated 9/23/04 8:41:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Arthurnator@... writes: > > Hi Patty, > You bet ya.s manditory and has even gotten it when he went in on a sick > > visit last year.Never had any problems from it.Siblings and parents of a > chronicly ill child should get them too. > Hugs > Becki and 6 systemic > Hi Becki: Has even gotten the flu after the vaccination? I can just see my family's faces when I tell them it's flu shot time! Going to call doctors and double check and make the appointments. Does your insurance cover the shot for everyone in the family? Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 We never took any flu shots for Juho (or anyone else). He could have it for free being " a risk child " but our rheumy told us it's not necessary if he stays healthy. He hasn't had any infections for many years now, except one time: Last year we had a proper influenza in this family (11 people down...) Me and my dh were really sick, and the only healthy family member was three years old... very funny... Juho was pretty sick, too, but our doc said th flu shot wouldn't have work on that virus anyway. We put ARAVA and MTX on break for two weeks until Juho was ok again. Soili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Yes, we get them for the whole family every year. 's younger brother was born with a birth defect which resulted in compromised lung function. The first winter the other 3 kids all got the flu. By some miracle, Zach avoided it.. probably as he was not mobile yet. So, that is one reason. Since Zach is *high risk* health-wise, he and all family members should get it. (Back then.. that first winter, no one thought to mention it...UGH!). Secondly, after having 3 kids with the flu at the same time... you don't ever want to go thru that again..LOL! In fact, one of my daughters asks for the flu shot every winter. She'll start soon with ...Isn't it time to get the flu shot? The older girls have enough memories of it that they don't want to take a chance. Marsha & (8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Hi Patty, s never gotten the flu nor his sister or me.I don't know if our insurance pays for it or not.Our peds office just charges $15 for the shot and the LPN does it.Our co-pay to see the doc is $15 so it pretty much evens out.So many people die every year from the flu,especial the elderly and children that I don't worry about insurance.Another thing is I used to be able to get the shot at the peds office when the kids got theirs but due to the shortage they are only doing the kids. Hugs Becki and 6systemic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 In a message dated 9/23/04 10:12:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, carneyval@... writes: > a bout with the flu could certainly trigger a flare. I would certainly > discuss it with the ped and rheumy first - though all of Robbie's docs wanted > him to have it (Nephrologist, Rheumatologist, and Pediatrician) and it was the > only vaccine they have encouraged me to have him take since diagnosis. > Hi Val: That triggering thing is a huge issue:( I have decided on the two job offers I have received and the one I am taking is in a school. So I think we will all get the shots. Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Hi Robbin: Has ever had any reactions from childhood vaccinations? Caitlin had a problem with the DTP and thereafter only received the DT, not the Pertussis part. Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 In a message dated 9/24/04 9:14:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, marsham@... writes: > Secondly, after having 3 kids with the flu at the same time... you don't > ever want to go thru that again..LOL! In fact, one of my daughters asks for > the flu shot every winter. She'll start soon with ...Isn't it time to get > the flu shot? The older girls have enough memories of it that they don't > want to take a chance. > > Marsha & (8) > Hi Marsha: She clearly has a great memory.....asking if it's time for the flu shot. I know Caitlin will be wanting Emla cream on her arm, but it won't help much with an IM injection. Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 In a message dated 9/24/04 4:24:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Arthurnator@... writes: > Another thing is I used to be able to get the shot > at the peds office when the kids got theirs but due to the shortage they > are > only doing the kids. > Hugs > Becki and 6systemic > Hi Becki: I know our peds office sees adults with allergies (if their kids go to the practice). It woud be great if they could give my husband and I the flu shots too. Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Just to clarify: The flu shot cannot give you the flu. It is NOT a live virus. What sometimes MIGHT happen, is if you are coming down with something anyway, and you get the flu shot anyway, your body may then cease working on whatever it was coming down with and 'work on' making antibodies to the flu instead, and then you get sick with whatever. Hope this makes sense. I have given thousands of flu shots in my career and am well schooled in this; we were taught by official directors (medical directors and doctors) of the health department. It is a very common myth prevalent in the community, but once again, let me assure you, a flu shot does not have the ability to give you the flu as it is a KILLED virus. and Rob 15 Spondy PS My hubbie, myself and Rob get ours every year. Never an adverse reaction. On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:15:04 EDT Emeraldsx3@... writes: In a message dated 9/23/04 8:41:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Arthurnator@... writes: > > Hi Patty, > You bet ya.s manditory and has even gotten it when he went in on a sick > > visit last year.Never had any problems from it.Siblings and parents of a > chronicly ill child should get them too. > Hugs > Becki and 6 systemic > Hi Becki: Has even gotten the flu after the vaccination? I can just see my family's faces when I tell them it's flu shot time! Going to call doctors and double check and make the appointments. Does your insurance cover the shot for everyone in the family? Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Hi Patty, You've probably gotten tons of replies already, but I'm behind. The rheumy definitely suggests that Hunter gets a flu shot and we all get one to try to keep it out of the house for his sake. Stacia and Hunter 8 systemic, iritis > Hi All: > > I was reading AOL news and they mentioned who should get the flu vaccine, > etc. Does anyone here get them for their children, themselves and family > members? Any problems with them? I am thinking with Caitlin's JRA that she should > get one. > > Take care. > Patty > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 To further claridy the flu shot situation.... is right, of course, about the flu shot not causing the flu because it is a dead virus. HOWEVER, there is a nasal spray flu vaccine that does contain a LIVE virus and all chronically ill people should stay away from it. I've asked two different doctors about the availability of the flu shot this year and they have each said early to mid-Oct. We're going in as soon as they have it because we were too late and they had run out for my younger girls second booster last year. Stacia and Hunter 8 systemic, iritis > Just to clarify: > The flu shot cannot give you the flu. It is NOT a live virus. What > sometimes MIGHT happen, is if you are coming down with something anyway, > and you get the flu shot anyway, your body may then cease working on > whatever it was coming down with and 'work on' making antibodies to the > flu instead, and then you get sick with whatever. Hope this makes sense. > I have given thousands of flu shots in my career and am well schooled in > this; we were taught by official directors (medical directors and > doctors) of the health department. It is a very common myth prevalent in > the community, but once again, let me assure you, a flu shot does not > have the ability to give you the flu as it is a KILLED virus. > and Rob 15 Spondy > PS My hubbie, myself and Rob get ours every year. Never an adverse > reaction. > > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:15:04 EDT Emeraldsx3@a... writes: > In a message dated 9/23/04 8:41:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Arthurnator@w... writes: > > > > > > Hi Patty, > > You bet ya.s manditory and has even gotten it when he went in on a > sick > > > > visit last year.Never had any problems from it.Siblings and parents of > a > > chronicly ill child should get them too. > > Hugs > > Becki and 6 systemic > > > > Hi Becki: > > Has even gotten the flu after the vaccination? I can just see my > family's faces when I tell them it's flu shot time! Going to call > doctors and > double check and make the appointments. Does your insurance cover the > shot for > everyone in the family? > > Take care. > Patty > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 Hi Stacia: WE have never gotten the flu shot, none of us. If the doctor's see no problem with it (I doubt they well, but you never know), then we will all get one this year. What is the best time to get one? Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Hi e: Are you planning on getting yours as soon as it's available in October? I am going to call tomorrow to see when our peds expects the vaccine in. Thanks. Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 --Patty, Nick will be getting the shot this year...hes had it before ( in 2 doses) when he was younger because of his asthma. But he has not gotten one lately as his asthma is gone. I didnt do one last year as he was not on all the meds he is now, but i think this year it would be wise to do so. Ill be talking to his doc when we see her in Oct. Hugs Helen and (7,systemic) - In , Emeraldsx3@a... wrote: > Hi All: > > I was reading AOL news and they mentioned who should get the flu vaccine, > etc. Does anyone here get them for their children, themselves and family > members? Any problems with them? I am thinking with Caitlin's JRA that she should > get one. > > Take care. > Patty > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 -As a side note to this.... I believe that each year the flu shot is made up of the main strains that they ( im assuming the CDC) think are going to be the main ones to be a problem in that particular year. Theres 1000's of different stains of flu and if one of the strains thats NOT in the vaccine become a problem the flu shot will not protect you for that one. Correct me if im wrong someone ))) THis is how it was explanied a long time ago to me..... Hugs Helen and (7,systemic) -- In , snooksmama@j... wrote: > Just to clarify: > The flu shot cannot give you the flu. It is NOT a live virus. What > sometimes MIGHT happen, is if you are coming down with something anyway, > and you get the flu shot anyway, your body may then cease working on > whatever it was coming down with and 'work on' making antibodies to the > flu instead, and then you get sick with whatever. Hope this makes sense. > I have given thousands of flu shots in my career and am well schooled in > this; we were taught by official directors (medical directors and > doctors) of the health department. It is a very common myth prevalent in > the community, but once again, let me assure you, a flu shot does not > have the ability to give you the flu as it is a KILLED virus. > and Rob 15 Spondy > PS My hubbie, myself and Rob get ours every year. Never an adverse > reaction. > > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:15:04 EDT Emeraldsx3@a... writes: > In a message dated 9/23/04 8:41:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Arthurnator@w... writes: > > > > > > Hi Patty, > > You bet ya.s manditory and has even gotten it when he went in on a > sick > > > > visit last year.Never had any problems from it.Siblings and parents of > a > > chronicly ill child should get them too. > > Hugs > > Becki and 6 systemic > > > > Hi Becki: > > Has even gotten the flu after the vaccination? I can just see my > family's faces when I tell them it's flu shot time! Going to call > doctors and > double check and make the appointments. Does your insurance cover the > shot for > everyone in the family? > > Take care. > Patty > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Helen, You are most definetly right. It is a guessing game. They get together early in the calendar year to decide what strains they think will be prevalent. Sometimes they are right, sometimes not. I posted a couple articles from the CDC about the flu vaccine. I believe I read it here but if not, a reminder you should NOT get the nasal flu vaccine. It is a LIVE virus. The time is near to roll up your sleeves. Lets all not get the flu and its side effects this year. Funny thing is my daughter with poly JRA has missed it the last couple times it hit our house and we were barely able to keep my sons out of hospital with pneumonia. Had we had better insurance I'm sure they would have been there! e hburger64 <hburger64@...> wrote: -As a side note to this.... I believe that each year the flu shot is made up of the main strains that they ( im assuming the CDC) think are going to be the main ones to be a problem in that particular year. Theres 1000's of different stains of flu and if one of the strains thats NOT in the vaccine become a problem the flu shot will not protect you for that one. Correct me if im wrong someone ))) THis is how it was explanied a long time ago to me..... Hugs Helen and (7,systemic) -- In , snooksmama@j... wrote: > Just to clarify: > The flu shot cannot give you the flu. It is NOT a live virus. What > sometimes MIGHT happen, is if you are coming down with something anyway, > and you get the flu shot anyway, your body may then cease working on > whatever it was coming down with and 'work on' making antibodies to the > flu instead, and then you get sick with whatever. Hope this makes sense. > I have given thousands of flu shots in my career and am well schooled in > this; we were taught by official directors (medical directors and > doctors) of the health department. It is a very common myth prevalent in > the community, but once again, let me assure you, a flu shot does not > have the ability to give you the flu as it is a KILLED virus. > and Rob 15 Spondy > PS My hubbie, myself and Rob get ours every year. Never an adverse > reaction. > > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:15:04 EDT Emeraldsx3@a... writes: > In a message dated 9/23/04 8:41:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Arthurnator@w... writes: > > > > > > Hi Patty, > > You bet ya.s manditory and has even gotten it when he went in on a > sick > > > > visit last year.Never had any problems from it.Siblings and parents of > a > > chronicly ill child should get them too. > > Hugs > > Becki and 6 systemic > > > > Hi Becki: > > Has even gotten the flu after the vaccination? I can just see my > family's faces when I tell them it's flu shot time! Going to call > doctors and > double check and make the appointments. Does your insurance cover the > shot for > everyone in the family? > > Take care. > Patty > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Helen, I researched the CDC web site about this all last year. I think you are mostly right about the flu shot...it can only be made to protect against known viruses. They make the shot to fulfill the purposes of what happened in the '03-04 flu season. They have no way of predicting if the flu strain is going to change and what a variation would look like this '04-05 season. So in a nutshell, it's certainly not a guarantee against anything that can happen in " 04- 05, but more of an " insurance " (lots of loop-holes), but the flu shot is still a " must have " for chronically ill families. Additionally, last fall, if you were under either 7-8 years old, if this was your first flu shot, you needed one shot and then another booster in 30 days, according to the CDC. We were in the position of getting only one flu shot last year for all my three kids that should have gotten a booster after 30 days. By that time, the flu shot was available anymore. I've talked to CDC recently and if you've already had the flu shot at least once in previous years, you just need one this year, and no booster necessary. Stacia andn Hunter 8 systemic, iritis > > Just to clarify: > > The flu shot cannot give you the flu. It is NOT a live virus. What > > sometimes MIGHT happen, is if you are coming down with something > anyway, > > and you get the flu shot anyway, your body may then cease working > on > > whatever it was coming down with and 'work on' making antibodies > to the > > flu instead, and then you get sick with whatever. Hope this makes > sense. > > I have given thousands of flu shots in my career and am well > schooled in > > this; we were taught by official directors (medical directors and > > doctors) of the health department. It is a very common myth > prevalent in > > the community, but once again, let me assure you, a flu shot does > not > > have the ability to give you the flu as it is a KILLED virus. > > and Rob 15 Spondy > > PS My hubbie, myself and Rob get ours every year. Never an adverse > > reaction. > > > > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:15:04 EDT Emeraldsx3@a... writes: > > In a message dated 9/23/04 8:41:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > Arthurnator@w... writes: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patty, > > > You bet ya.s manditory and has even gotten it when he went > in on a > > sick > > > > > > visit last year.Never had any problems from it.Siblings and > parents of > > a > > > chronicly ill child should get them too. > > > Hugs > > > Becki and 6 systemic > > > > > > > Hi Becki: > > > > Has even gotten the flu after the vaccination? I can just > see my > > family's faces when I tell them it's flu shot time! Going to call > > doctors and > > double check and make the appointments. Does your insurance cover > the > > shot for > > everyone in the family? > > > > Take care. > > Patty > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 I have complex partial seizures following a stroke 2 years ago. I had my second gran mal within 24 hours of receiving a flu shot 2 years ago. Despite ever having had the flu, my doctor persisted in talking me into getting one. I did get the shot last year as this same doctor vehemently insisted the shot was NOT a trigger ( He may or may not have ben right, I'll never know.) I was fine afterwards this time around. Just a little redness and itching around the injection area for about a week. ~ --- mehim2catsnbaby <mehim2catsnbaby@...> wrote: > Look at the fifth bullet point under Precautions: > > http://www.immune.org.nz/site_resources/Professionals/latest% > 20resources/table_comparing_influenza_vaccine_for_2005_season_.pdf > > I think that most - if not all of us- here go out of our way to avoid > triggers for seizures in ourselves and/or our kids. I'll bet those of > you who got the flu shot were not told of this potential side effect. > > Please excuse me while I go holler, rant, and jump up and down that > they would then say that the shot should be given anyway! Grrrr! > > -tina > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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