Re: Re:Interview Arthritis Survivor Margie Garrison

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I was on a special diet for GERD for like a year and a half and it was similar to what she's talking about for JRA.. and to be honest I ended up in a horrible flare. Then I went back to eating junk food every once in a while.. and I gotta say.. mind over body.. junk food just made me happier. You can't deny that our body likes what makes it happy. I duno these type of articles kind of annoy me.. its like saying that the solution is that easy. Eat a bunch of veggies and you'll be fine.

poly Jra 18

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Plus she has osteoarthritis which is the wear and tear disease... So she might have just gone from a not good diet to a good diet which probably took weight off her joints.. its not the same thing as rheumatoid

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That is exactly what I was thinking. I agree that a good diet is important, but when your immune system is attacking your own body, I think there is a something more at play here. JMHO, Michele (16,pauci & spondy)

-----Original Message-----From: superstahlisa@... [mailto:superstahlisa@...] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: Re: Re:Interview Arthritis Survivor Margie GarrisonPlus she has osteoarthritis which is the wear and tear disease... So she might have just gone from a not good diet to a good diet which probably took weight off her joints.. its not the same thing as rheumatoid To leave this mailing list, send request to: -unsubscribe

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The foods don'r cure our daughters Jra but it defenetly prevents her from having flares. She can eat whatever she wants but we balance the Ph with a variety of foods. that is what works for her.

mum to Jackie syst.poly.

>From: A Morse

>Reply- > >Subject: Re:Interview Arthritis Survivor Margie Garrison >Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 10:14:19 -0400 > >It is things like this that infuriate me, not for the idea that diet can >play a major role in the affect that some foods have on our bodies. Or >that the exclution of of foods from your diet may be beneficial to those >living with chronic degenertive conditions. >BUT THAT the reference in this article to tha fact that, " people with >arthritis use their arthritis to not do anything or to gain sympathy" >Or to even make the statement that, eating a certain diet will 'CURE' >arthritis! >I will agree that diet can and I have had in my experience, living with >jra, reactions to certain foods, that have triggered flares. >But reaction to foods is nothing uncommon or unusual, I believe it can be >refered to as 'Alergies' >I do feel that the midical community is indeed governed by the ALL MIGHTY >DOLLAR! and drug companies 'Prositute' them selfs to doctors, just to get >these doctors to endorse their product over that of the other company. >But I will not say that it can't work or help, in the treatment of a >chronic condition, be it JRA, MS, MD or any of the many other diseases >that afflect so many. >All any of these course of treatment are, are but management programs! >there is no such thing as a CURE! >Ask cancer patient who has experienced 'being cure' only to have it >return again some years later. >It is, in the medical community nothing more than, 'WHO HAS THE BUCKS! >for if you don't got em! Then you get what ever you get! >And there isn't any one going to tell me different. >That you recieve the same 'QUALITY of CARE' >no matter what insurance coverage you have. >And these type of beliefs of diet over disease, should not be pushed to >the trash can by doctors. Simply because it doesn't fall into the >accepted norm, of perscribed treatments. >I truely believe, that at the onset of any condition, 'WHY THE HELL >NOT'test patients for food reactions, AS A PART OF their treatment for >the condition. >I apologize for any ofense of my lanuage! >But I am so tiered of of the high minded belief of doctors. They may have >medical degrees, but really how much time do they spend with a patient, >to really know how well or not they react to treatment. >Hey! diebetics have to follow a perscribed dietary program! > A. Morse > > >On Fri, 30 May 2003 05:44:27 -0400 " Velinsky"

>writes: >I am in a very rowdy mood, would anyone here have the nerve to do >something like this? Do any of you feel there is merit in what she is >saying? Or do you think it is just hype....my heart says I would love to >believe her but my brain says NO WAY! > V > Interview: Arthritis Survivor Margie Garrison (author of >the book, “I Cured My Arthritis You Can Too!”) > > >Interview: Arthritis Survivor Margie Garrison > >http://www.arthritissupport.com/library/bulletinarticle.cfm?ID=748 & PROD=P >H173 > >Margie Garrison is a former arthritis patient and author of the book, “I >Cured My Arthritis You Can Too!” To learn more about Margie and her book >please visit: www.cureyourarthritis.com. >ArthritisSupport (AS:) When were you diagnosed with arthritis, and with >what type (osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis)? >Margie Garrison (MG): I was about 22 years old when I was diagnosed with >osteoarthritis. >AS: How did you feel both physically and mentally at the time of your >diagnosis? >MG: I had always been in great pain since the age of eleven, after I had >fallen against a metal bar at a carnival ride. I was always told it was >growing pains, or I was faking it, or that I would outgrow it. >AS: What types of treatments did your physician(s) prescribe, and at what >point did you decide these treatments were not helping you manage the >disease? >MG: The first treatment I received was gold treatments, which did nothing >but make my face go round and make me miserable. I called the Arthritis >Foundation for the name of a specialist and I changed doctors. >I was then put on steroids and had a week’s stay in the hospital. I had a >series of weights put on my feet, I guess to make me taller, who knows, >but it was awful. I also had a spinal tap as well as a spray applied to >where I hurt. The spray stopped the pain for maybe two hours, but the >doctor decided it was not a practical treatment for me because it had to >be done by a doctor in the office, and it was expensive. >Another of the 13 doctors I went to said one of my legs was shorter than >the other. He had me put lifts in one shoe. This was expensive, and then >he later said that did not work! I was then told to take just aspirin. >Additionally, I was told to exercise, but not to exercise if it hurt. >Since I hurt 24/7 I was puzzled. Finally I was put on a series of >painkillers that started with codeine and then avocet. >At age 54, when I was at my wits end, I was taking up to 12 avocets and >26 aspirin daily. I decided this could not go on. I could not face waking >up in the morning. My hands and feet were so swollen and painful to the >touch I just could not function. I even had to put a mattress in the back >of my station wagon so I could at least get out and get some fresh air >and scenery. >At that point I found Jack Goldstein M.D. and his book, “Triumph Over >Disease Through Fasting,” and called him. I did just what he said to do, >and got pain relief within days. >AS: What kinds of alternative treatments did you find helped you fight >the disease? >MG: First, I bought a juicer and juiced my foods. I stopped all sugars, >eating white flour and most cooked foods. No more caffeine and lots and >lots of water. >I gave up on all medications, and went to the Pawlings Health Manor to >fast. I stayed one-week and drank only water. It turned out to be the >beginning of the end of my arthritis. >AS: Briefly describe the lifestyle changes you undertook as part of your >treatment. What foods did you eat? How much did you exercise? Overall how >well did each of these changes help you? >MG: I ate plenty of salads and drank at least three glasses of fresh >juice per day. I started walking at least 15 minutes a day after I >finished my fast, and worked it up to ½ mile and then a mile daily. Each >step helped. I became more clear headed, I slept better and I was happy. >My hands and feet were no longer swollen and I could hold hands with my >husband for the first time. >It was a major shift in my life style. I had more ambition. The >experience made me so angry with those 13 doctors that I wrote my book >[“How I Cured My Arthritis, You Can Too”] in about three weeks and never >looked back. >AS: If these methods have helped you and others beat arthritis, why do >you think it isn’t widely accepted or practiced among physicians and the >medical community? >MG: In my research for the book I discovered that this method of >treatment had been available since 1876. It was used to cure people of >all sorts of diseases, especially the epidemics of that era. >Doctors for purely financial reasons did not accept it. As Dr. Jung of >Cal wrote: >“I had to treat my patients with arthritis in secret so I would not loose >my hospital privileges. I had a family and mortgages and >responsibilities.” >The Arthritis Foundation was so upset with me that when I went to one of >their conventions and tried to talk to people there about my success, >they had the security guards physically escort me out. They did not ask >me to leave, but took me by the arms and marched me out! >I was angry and devastated. I then learned that the top people in this >organization had no interest in finding a cure. In the 80’s they were >making in excess of $150,000 a year and had chauffeured limousines. I >found this case to be true in most degenerative disease organizations. A >cure would put them out of business. >When Jack Goldstein M.D. asked to speak at a colitis convention and told >how he cured his colitis with this method, he was also physically taken >off the stage. It is a disgrace. I understand the doctor’s frustration, >but it is a matter of getting people healthy, not making money. >AS: How do you feel about current pharmaceutical therapies, such as non >steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS), COX-2 inhibitors, etc.? >MG: I am strongly opposed to all of them. They make money for the drug >companies at the expense of the person who needs help. I took NSAIDS for >years, until I got better by stopping all drugs and then reading all of >the research. I was astounded by the side effects. I think it is criminal >to give them to anyone. The side affects are worse than the disease. >All drugs have side effects. People with degenerative diseases do not >need these side effects and besides they do not work. My newsletter, >“Amazing Secrets To Fantastic Health" is dedicated to showing people that >drugs are not needed because there is a better way. >AS: What can patients expect to feel as they progress along your plan? Is >it very difficult? Is it safe? >MG: They can expect to feel better in the first day or so and then have >maybe one or two days of feeling worse than ever as they detoxify their >system. Then it is a process of every day feeling better and better. They >will feel the old pain return if they eat something that is a no-no and >it will last about twelve hours and go away. They learn that if they >continue to eat that food they will pay with pain. >The plan is very safe. Patients do not stop any medications they are on, >and were given to them by doctors. Doctors do that. It is easy to follow >if they are sincere and honest with themselves that they want to stop >hurting. For those who want to continue to hurt and not change their >lifestyle it is difficult. Some people like to use their arthritis as an >excuse to not do things and to get coddled and attention. >Dr. Portnoy, who wrote the first testimonial in my book, was devastated >that he could help some of his patients but not his mother. She suffered >very much. She was in a wheelchair, had a nurse, a chauffeur and was >afraid of losing all that. She refused to do what he said would help her. > >AS: Did you have a support group helping you along? Do you feel that is >important? >MG: No, there were none at that time. Because of the dedication of Dr. >Goldstein and the time and effort he put into helping me, I have >dedicated my life to being there for those who hurt. My phone number is >available. I take all calls and answer all emails. I encourage people to >let me help them help themselves. I cannot imagine what I would have done >if I had not found this method of changing my life. >AS: What is the most important thing for arthritis patients to remember >while on their way to wellness? >MG: If it is to be up to me, they should write this on 3x5 cards and put >them everywhere: >* Learn to listen to their bodies. >* Read, study, and talk to those who have changed their health, not to >those who just want to give them cover-up drugs. > > >To leave this mailing list, send request to: > -unsubscribe > >

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Hello!,

I read your post I realize this has nothing to do with the diet but salts his stuff alot we watch him closely but he still does it and pours on the ketchup I know they both contain sodium Im just wondering if this has anything to do with what is wrong with him or has something to do with it somewhere.........oh well.

Teena, 13 jra

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Hi

Just to let you know that salt and ketchup are oposites in the way that salt is contracting and ketchup is expanding the body because of the sugar in ketchup. Ketchup has more sugar than a softdrink.

AND WHEN YOU EAT SOMETHING SALTY YOUR BODY AUTOMATICALY WANTS TO BALANCE IT WITH SOMETHING SWEET LIKE KETCHUP. Thats natures own way of balancing the Phlevel in the body or Ying and yang as they say in China.

If you manage to convince someone to eat less salt they will also automaticaly need/crave less sugar as ketchup, candy or sodas.

it is the unbalance between the sweet and salt that makes Jackies Jra flare and Not only what she eats (junkfood or not). pay attention to what your kids eat when they flare and try to see if it's more sweet foods than alkaline foods that goes in to their bodys and you might find the key to their flares just as we did,

Good luck

, mum to Jackie 6 syst.poly.

>From: Sel61wv@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re:Interview Arthritis Survivor Margie Garrison >Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:26:21 EDT > >Hello!, > > I read your post I realize this has nothing to do with the diet >but salts his stuff alot we watch him closely but he still does it and >pours on the ketchup I know they both contain sodium Im just wondering if this >has anything to do with what is wrong with him or has something to do with it >somewhere.........oh well. > >Teena, 13 jra The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*

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I totally agree on that one I have always payed attention to what eats he's defiantly not into veggies unless you call eatting peas. That is about it he is a very picky eater he can when he is not ill consume alot ,of course he's your typical teenager LOL he is hoping he can play maybe football this fall I told him go for it if your rheumy says ya can then do it! As far as trying to find out what could cause a flare in foods I have yet to find anything it's usually some physical activity or stress that will bring it on the last time it was a simple bike ride. We are into day 2 here and he is feeling tonz better:) he did say he had some ankle and knee pain last night but, he is not limping the limping worries me that tells me there is something not right there in the knee even if the ortho doc did say it was growing pains. We'll keep a close on it and get him into see a peds ortho.

Teena, 13 jra