Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Patty, I wanted to forward this email to you because I saw that you were taking probiotics with FOS and thought you might be interested in reading the info below. Originally I had heard good things about the FOS but later read it wasn't a good idea if you are possibly struggling with symptoms of candida. This is from one of the knowledgeable men that are on the yeast list I belong to so it might be worth checking out. Hope this helps, Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: " Wally Jankowski " <waljan@...> <YEAST-L@...> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [YEAST-L] FOS > Back again, > > Now that I have some more time, I would like to expand on this question > of FOS. The question that FOS only feeds only the " good guys " and not the > " bad guys " , is something I would like to consider. FOS, or > Fructooligosaccharide, is a carbohydrate or sugar composed of several > monosaccharides. For some plants, like Jerusalem artichoke, asparagus, > agave, onions, also molds and bacteria, FOS is used the same way that > starches are, as food storage. This is a system probably developed by > bacteria and molds, to store foods in times of abundance for use in times of > scarcity. > Another important fact about FOS. Any FOS product is at the MAX only > 50-60% FOS. As a by-product of FOS fermentation, the sugars glucose and > sucrose are produced. This means that you are taking in between 50 and 40% > glucose and sucrose whenever you use FOS! > There are thousands of studies that prove that even pure FOS is > fermented by most bacterium and fungi. This after all is the reason that > they produced FOS in the first place, TO EAT. This delusion that they only > feed the " good guys " is an sales gimmick. The site that you listed was one > of the only honest sites that I have seen selling FOS. At least they are > telling people how it is made. > In following the Reduce, Repair and Replant method of candida treatment, > I think there are some important points to remember. There is always the > danger of replanting too soon before candida has been reduced and your > muscoal intestinal surface has been, or is being repaired. Once candida is > adhered to your mucous membranes, which it consumes as food, it isn't going > anywhere without a fight. This is especially true if it has taken root and > changed to it's fungal, invasive form. This is like planting flowers in a > snowstorm, in the dead of winter. It just doesn't work. > Now that I said all that, FOS doesn't have to be all bad. It just > depends how you use it. It's a great way to culture your own probiotics. > This is how I use it. I use a yogurt maker to culture it. About a quart of > water to maybe a 1/2 capsule of probiotic. I want to make sure that it is > given at least 24 hours to ferment these sugars. You can then use this > mixture in a number of ways. I use it to make a type of dessert custard. I > use about 3/4 cup of this cultured mixture to 3/4 cup of 24hr. heavy fat > (personal choice on my ketogenic diet) yogurt. To this I add a capsule of > Customs Probiotic CP-1, 3 teaspoons of psyllium, some sugar-free flavoring > (stevia or aspartame or orange, vanilla extract, millions of choices) and > last but not least, a 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of glutamine. Put this in a > blender, pour into dessert cups and voila! This had all three of the major > components of the Repair part of candida treatment. Those three are; > glutamine, short-chain-fatty acids, and fiber. Eating this dessert 3 times > a day, takes care of my Repair and Replant part of my treatment. The Reduce > part is done by my anti-fungals. > > Wally > There's lots of information on FOS in the archives. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Wally Jankowski " <waljan@...> > <YEAST-L@...> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:28 AM > Subject: Re: FOS > > > FOSHi , > > The quote below is taken from the site that you have listed dealing with > the product 'Nutraflora'. It's at the bottom of the page. Most FOS is made > the same way, using common black mold. There is more to this relationship > than just FOS being produced by fungus. I don't have the time at the moment > to go into it further, but I had to show you this. > > Wally > > " That's why FOS is synthesized using a natural process that optimizes the > yield. Recognizing this, in Japan today, over 500 commercially prepared > foods contain FOS (known there as " neosugar " ), with the endorsement of > Japan's Minister of Health. FOS, which is made by fermenting sucrose with a > fungus called Aspergillus niger (Aspergillus oryzae, for example is used to > make miso and soy sauce), is about 30% as sweet as sucrose. " -NutraFlora > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jules > YEAST-L@... > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:41 PM > Subject: FOS > > > I have always thought that the consensus on FOS was that it can feed the > bad guys (yeasts/bacteria) as well as the probiotics so not to take FOS. > However it has come up on another list that FOS helps to destroy the bad > guys. I am thinking that good guys need food (as well as the bad guys > needing food) so better the good guys should have some food to give them a > fighting chance? doesn't that seem logical? > > > these sites were referenced: > > > http://www.aimfamily.com/florafoo.htm > http://www.alternativemedicine.com/digest/issue14/14042R00.shtml > > > they say: > > > " Feeding friendly bacteria is not all that FOS do for us. FOS can also > > reduce the growth of unfriendly bacteria, > maintain regular bowel movements, > maintain cholesterol and triglyceride levels, > maintain healthy blood sugar levels. " > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.248 / Virus Database: 121 - Release Date: 4/11/01 > > For list options and information about candida see: > http://www.howdyneighbor.com/jbayliss > > For list archives see: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/yeast-l.html > > Opinions and experiences found here are for informational purposes > only and are not intended to replace professional health care. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 Thanks Jackie! I have taken a break from my supplements this week. I am fasting, and doing some internal cleansing. Thanks for the info! Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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