Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 O.K. I have two pounds of this salt at home and use it for everything. I also use celtic sea salt that has just as many minerals in it including floride and iodine. Are these same as the man-made kind? I thought that natural minerals did not harm the body. I need to find out quick. I already have thyroid issues. Thanks, F. > > A number of my friends have been encouraging me to try Himalayan salt, a new premium health-promoting salt. Therefore, I found the following analysis of Himalayan salt particularly interesting. Zoe > > Salt Fluoridation > A fascinating set of links on fluoridating salt, including how fluoridated salt was marketed. Also has information on " Himalayan Salt " , which is currently being marketed as a premium salt. " " Himalaya Salt " may easily possess more fluoride than conventional, artificially fluoridated salt. " " In addition, people are advised to bathe their feet in a 10% salt/water solution, which results bathing the feet in water with a fluoride content of 30 ppm. " > http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/salt_index.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 have you checked out the link on Himalaya Salt http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/himalaya.html ??? The whole site has information on fluoride, and that might be of help to you. I think you are in error that "natural minerals do not harm the body". All the trace minerals are harmful when taken in excess. That is why it is so important with regards to iodine to determine what is "excess", and why Abraham's work proposing a new idea of what is necessary, and what is too much, is so critical. Zoe Re: Himalayan Salt O.K. I have two pounds of this salt at home and use it for everything. I also use celtic sea salt that has just as many minerals in it including floride and iodine. Are these same as the man-made kind? I thought that natural minerals did not harm the body. I need to find out quick. I already have thyroid issues.Thanks,F.>> A number of my friends have been encouraging me to try Himalayan salt, a new premium health-promoting salt. Therefore, I found the following analysis of Himalayan salt particularly interesting. Zoe> > Salt Fluoridation > A fascinating set of links on fluoridating salt, including how fluoridated salt was marketed. Also has information on "Himalayan Salt", which is currently being marketed as a premium salt. ""Himalaya Salt" may easily possess more fluoride than conventional, artificially fluoridated salt." "In addition, people are advised to bathe their feet in a 10% salt/water solution, which results bathing the feet in water with a fluoride content of 30 ppm." > http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/salt_index.html> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Hi, I am new to this group but I have been involved with alternative medicine for 30 years. I am not an expert but I would like to stress that there is natural fluoride which should not be confused with the fluoride that is used in our water supplies,etc. That fluoride is a waste product that is highly toxic and should not be consumed in comparison to naturally occurring fluoride which is not a buy product nor toxic. I use Himalayan salt (not exclusively) so I will be researching this to find out what kind of fluoride it has in it. I sincerely doubt they are adding the toxic by product to the salt. Just my 2 cents. Allyn From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of jeanyward Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:28 PM iodine Subject: Re: Himalayan Salt Thanks Zoe. I hope that I do not take my salts in excess. I need to find out if I have been harming myself using the salt. I usual put 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon a day in my drinking water. And of course I use it for cooking. I'll just have to cotact the company I purchase from to verify this also. Thanks again, F. > > > > A number of my friends have been encouraging me to try Himalayan > salt, a new premium health-promoting salt. Therefore, I found the > following analysis of Himalayan salt particularly interesting. Zoe > > > > Salt Fluoridation > > A fascinating set of links on fluoridating salt, including how > fluoridated salt was marketed. Also has information on " Himalayan > Salt " , which is currently being marketed as a premium > salt. " " Himalaya Salt " may easily possess more fluoride than > conventional, artificially fluoridated salt. " " In addition, people > are advised to bathe their feet in a 10% salt/water solution, which > results bathing the feet in water with a fluoride content of 30 ppm. " > > http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/salt_index.html > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 > natural fluoride which should not be > confused with the fluoride that is used in our water supplies,etc. That > fluoride is a waste product that is highly toxic and should not be consumed > in comparison to naturally occurring fluoride which is not a buy product nor > toxic. Most likely the form is calcium fluoride which may dissassociate into Ca once it's in the gut or may be bound so tightly it's doesn't come apart easily. I think though the problem is that our enviroment is now so permeated with fluoride getting anymore in any form is the problem. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Hi, F, Are you hypo or hyper? How much Himalayan Salt or Celtic Sea Salt you take depends on which way your thyroid is....but, these two natural salts, as far as my studies have shown, are safe and MUCH safer than table salt. The flouride and iodine in Himallayan salt and Celtic sea salt are organic and natural and are natural minerals. I did a lot of research, so, let me know if you want me to post some articles I found here. Dr. says that iodine balances the thyroid whether it is hypo or hyper, but, if you take too much iodine then you will go hyper...I posted his article here a week ago... Aimee Master Herbalist student Message 12 From: "jeanyward" Jeanyward@... Date: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:05am(PDT) Subject: Re: Himalayan SaltO.K. I have two pounds of this salt at home and use it for everything. I also use celtic sea salt that has just as many minerals in it including floride and iodine. Are these same as the man-made kind? I thought that natural minerals did not harm the body. I need to find out quick. I already have thyroid issues.Thanks,F. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I totally agree with you, Allyn, that there are two different kinds of flouride. The Himalayan salt and the Celtic Sea Salt are totally natural and have never had any additives... Aimee Master Herbalist student Message 24 From: "ALLYN FERRIS" aferris7272@... Date: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:23pm(PDT) Subject: Re: Himalayan SaltHi,I am new to this group but I have been involved with alternative medicinefor 30 years. I am not an expert but I would like to stress that there isnatural fluoride which should not be confused with the fluoride that is used in our water supplies,etc. Thatfluoride is a waste product that is highly toxic and should not be consumedin comparison to naturally occurring fluoride which is not a buy product nortoxic.I use Himalayan salt (not exclusively) so I will be researching this to findout what kind of fluoride it has in it. I sincerely doubt they are addingthe toxic by product to the salt.Just my 2 cents.Allyn Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 > I totally agree with you, Allyn, that there are two different kinds of flouride. The Himalayan salt and the Celtic Sea Salt are totally natural and have never had any additives... > -----> I've been trying to figure this one out. I thinkt he fluoride that natural can still give a problem where there's too much. People living in areas with " natural fluoride " in wells show horrible bone disfunction. The fluoride may be bound more tightly in the CaFl form rather than other forms but it's still a problem. Espcially given that pollution adds in more too our total load. A good place to ask this question is the flouride group. SOme very knowledgeable people on it. FluoridePoisoning/ Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hi, Lynn, That is true that too much natural flouride is bad...natural flouride in something must be balanced...same is true of iodine.....but, this is true of all minerals...if there is too much or too little in the body (from ingesting something with too little or too much), then, problems arise... Aimee Master Herbalist student Message 10 From: "Lynn" lyn122@... Date: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:41am(PDT) Subject: Re: Himalayan Salt> I totally agree with you, Allyn, that there are two different kindsof flouride. The Himalayan salt and the Celtic Sea Salt are totallynatural and have never had any additives...> -----> I've been trying to figure this one out. I thinkt he fluoridethat natural can still give a problem where there's too much. Peopleliving in areas with "natural fluoride" in wells show horrible bonedisfunction. The fluoride may be bound more tightly in the CaFl formrather than other forms but it's still a problem. Espcially given thatpollution adds in more too our total load. A good place to ask this question is the flouride group. SOme veryknowledgeable people on it.FluoridePoisoning/ Lynn Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Hi Allyn, very interesting. Please let us know what your research yields. It would be greatly appreciated. F. > > > > > > A number of my friends have been encouraging me to try > Himalayan > > salt, a new premium health-promoting salt. Therefore, I found > the > > following analysis of Himalayan salt particularly interesting. > Zoe > > > > > > Salt Fluoridation > > > A fascinating set of links on fluoridating salt, including how > > fluoridated salt was marketed. Also has information on " Himalayan > > Salt " , which is currently being marketed as a premium > > salt. " " Himalaya Salt " may easily possess more fluoride than > > conventional, artificially fluoridated salt. " " In addition, > people > > are advised to bathe their feet in a 10% salt/water solution, > which > > results bathing the feet in water with a fluoride content of 30 > ppm. " > > > http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/salt_index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Hi Aimee, I am hypo. Thanks, F. > > Hi, F, > > Are you hypo or hyper? How much Himalayan Salt or Celtic Sea Salt you take depends on which way your thyroid is....but, these two natural salts, as far as my studies have shown, are safe and MUCH safer than table salt. The flouride and iodine in Himallayan salt and Celtic sea salt are organic and natural and are natural minerals. I did a lot of research, so, let me know if you want me to post some articles I found here. > > Dr. says that iodine balances the thyroid whether it is hypo or hyper, but, if you take too much iodine then you will go hyper...I posted his article here a week ago... > > Aimee > Master Herbalist student > > Message 12 > From: " jeanyward " Jeanyward@... > Date: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:05am(PDT) > Subject: Re: Himalayan Salt > > > > O.K. I have two pounds of this salt at home and use it for > everything. I also use celtic sea salt that has just as many > minerals in it including floride and iodine. Are these same as the > man-made kind? I thought that natural minerals did not harm the > body. I need to find out quick. I already have thyroid issues. > > Thanks, > > F. > > > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 > That is true that too much natural flouride is bad...natural flouride in something must be balanced... what would you balance fluoride with? BTW...I just read that the average person is getting around 6mgs fluoride/day for pollution. The recomendation is 1 mg . that's what they based water fluoridation on. I can't imagine that anymore from any source could be good. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Personally Lilian, I have also been using this salt for years now and would use nothing else. The flouride thing is something that I was concerned about but I cannot tell you where I read it now because I forget things and have so much on my saved information section that it would take a month in sundays to find it, but it is only the flouride that they add to our water etc that is bad, I believe that the flouride in the salt is a naturally ocurring one and not the poison that comes from industry. You can only go by your own instincts in this and although this salt is more expensive in some places, it works out less because you use much less. Luv nne > > I have been using this for a while now, on the understanding that it was > better for me. I now read this and no longer know what to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 I can say that it is a true and real salt, I once watched a program on the himalayas and hubby and I said we didn't understand what they were doing to the snow and why it looked a strange colour, then they said that this was actually salt. I would imagine that anything that 'grows' naturally on a mountain must be good but you will have to be careful of where you buy it to make sure that you get the real thing. I hate these get rich at anyones expense people. Luv nne I am very concerned at the claim that any old salt is being passed off as Himalayan sea salt especially as I have received some from different suppliers and found their strength to differ greatly. Some seems to have helped considerably and other salt I'm not so sure about.Luv Bella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Hi all, Fluoride in any form is not great and it is best to minimise our intake as much as possible. nne is correct that naturally occurring fluoride is better than the chemical added to much of our food and medicines but I would need to look in to this more to be happy deliberately adding to my fluoride intake by taking it in salt. I'm hoping someone else will have the facts about fluoride etc in himalayan sea salt and other types of sea salt. Luv Bella > it, but it is only the flouride > that they add to our water etc that is bad, I believe that the flouride > in the salt is a naturally ocurring one and not the poison that comes > from industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Hi nne, I think I may have worded my last message badly. Yes, I know that Himalayan sea salt is real but from what that article said there are imitations being produced and being passed off as the real deal. Sorry to have caused confusion. Luv Bella > > > I can say that it is a true and real salt, I once watched a program on the > himalayas and hubby and I said we didn't understand what they were doing to the > snow and why it looked a strange colour, then they said that this was > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 I also worded badly Bella because I hadn't even thought that you meant that, just that as in everything these days, there are nasty people out there willing to compromise our health by selling to us at great expense, cheap imitations. Luv nne Hi nne,I think I may have worded my last message badly. Yes, I know that Himalayan sea salt is real but from what that article said there are imitations being produced and being passed off as the real deal.Sorry to have caused confusion.Luv Bella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 I think that you will find some people saying everything we put into our mouths or on our skins is wrong, and we just have to take it with a pinch of salt! This will make me careful of where I buy my himalayan salt from however, and not necessarily the cheapest website. I have only bought from saltshack so far, which is fairly cheap, and was someone on the original TPA site I think? I guess there could even be people out there colouring normal salt to inflate the price. I think I remember that apples naturally contain fluoride too but we do not avoid them, but this is naturally occurring fluoride & not the nasty stuff they add to water which is a waste product they are trying to get rid of. It is like comparing progest cream with progestins, but that is another story of more corruption / money grabbing big companies. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 The Himalayas were created when the sub-continent of India crashed into Asia, slowly thrusting up the mountains. I believe that fossils of sea creatures have been found there, just as they have also been found at the top of peaks in the Rocky Mountains. The minerals were born in the sea; they are just higher now. The coastal range in Washington, the Olympics, were formed during subduction and were scraped off the bottom and thrust up in a similar manner. I am sure the mineral content of Himalayan salt would stand up to analysis. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 I would call it an opinion rather than a truth. Alobar On 6/1/08, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote: > Hello: > > Someone on this List sent in a Post a few weeks ago STATING that Himalayan Salt did not cause water retention or high blood pressure as do OTHER SALTS. > > Is that true? > > Thanks, > Bonnie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 No. Actually, it is the truth. You can read all about it in " Water & Salt, The Essence of Life " by Hendel & Ferreira. Love and Laughter, Anne > > Hello: > > > > Someone on this List sent in a Post a few weeks ago STATING that Himalayan Salt did not cause water retention or high blood pressure as do OTHER SALTS. > > > > Is that true? > > > > Thanks, > > Bonnie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Books promote all sorts of ideas. Are there any peer reviewed studies published in reputable journals? I agree that crappy salt like Morton's is not good for one because of all the additives and because the mineral balance has been disrupted. However, some so-called natural salts contain high levels of Cadmium and other toxic minerals. Water retention (edema) can come because one takes in too much Sodium and insufficient Potassium. Sea salt contains some Potassium, but not very much. I put equal parts sea salt and NOW brand Potassium Chloride in my blender and grind them together to further increase my Potassium intake. Alobar On 5/2/08, annezipkes <acutez@...> wrote: > No. Actually, it is the truth. You can read all about it in " Water & > Salt, The Essence of Life " by Hendel & Ferreira. > > Love and Laughter, > Anne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Great idea, Alobar. Lynda Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote: Sea salt contains some Potassium, but not very much. I put equal parts sea salt and NOW brand Potassium Chloride in my blender and grind them together to further increase my Potassium intake. Alobar On 5/2/08, annezipkes <acutez@...> wrote: > No. Actually, it is the truth. You can read all about it in " Water & > Salt, The Essence of Life " by Hendel & Ferreira. > > Love and Laughter, > Anne > > --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 No, Morton Salt is not 'not good' for one because of all the additives. It's 'not good' for one because it's been processed down to only sodium chloride . . . . which is bio-toxic. Pure Himalayan Salt is complete with all trace minerals. The body uses it as necessary . . . . balancing blood pressure (up or down) in the process. That is not to say that, if one has other chronic or organic imbalances that are affecting blood pressure, that simply taking Pure Himalayan Salt would be sufficient to bring blood pressure back to normal. Like I said . . . . read the book, do your research, see for yourself. Love and Laughter, Anne > > No. Actually, it is the truth. You can read all about it in " Water & > > Salt, The Essence of Life " by Hendel & Ferreira. > > > > Love and Laughter, > > Anne > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Bonnie, the sodium in salt including Himalayan and Celtic can promote rhabdomyolysis especially when potassium intake is low. This is a sometimes fatal wasting disorder (think cardiac arrest, kidney failure); wasting of healthy tissues is something you don't need Duncan > > Hello: > > Someone on this List sent in a Post a few weeks ago STATING that Himalayan Salt did not cause water retention or high blood pressure as do OTHER SALTS. > > Is that true? > > Thanks, > Bonnie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 No, Bonnie, I'm saying to reduce rhabdomyolysis risk none of us should allow excess salt in our diets, and that we should avoid potassium deficiency because it will undermine a health program. I don't buy salt at all, relying instead on whatever's in my cheese and processed food for sodium. I do buy " No-Salt " , which is potassium salts, for salting my food. Duncan > > > > Hello: > > > > Someone on this List sent in a Post a few weeks ago STATING that > Himalayan Salt did not cause water retention or high blood pressure as > do OTHER SALTS. > > > > Is that true? > > > > Thanks, > > Bonnie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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