liver

[Guest guest]

CS = colloidal silver

Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 9:06:25 PM, you wrote:

> Hello you guys:

> You're going to think I'm a dummy, but this email below was ended

> with, " I just wish I had known about CS back then. " WHAT IS CS?

> Bonnie

> Liver

> Osiyo Sidanelvi!

> Hello My Family!

> When I had candidiasis (systemic candida infection) my DO put me

> on Milk Thistle 500 mg twice a day to help the liver clear itself

> and heal itself from the toxins built up and stored by taking huge

> doses of Diflucan. Milk Thistle also flushes stored fats from the liver.

> I was on a very strict diet of no sugar, transfats, processed

> flours, high carb veggies, etc of any kind.

> I just wish I had known of CS back then.

> Love

> Bob

> Adageyudi

> Staya Udanvti

>

[Guest guest]

Bonnie: Compared to the correct liver product, milk thistle is

more of an over-promoted myth. Milk thistle tends to promote

glutathione increase, but it doesn't provide the precursors

needed to make the glutathione. The biggest liver support is

glutathione; precursors are plentifiul in undenatured whey and

selenium.

Here's a whey link so you have the ability to compare attributes

of different undenatured wheys and select the right (potency and

price) product.

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/cold-processed-whey.html

Personally, I think the milk thistle in addition to the whey and

selenium would be good, but won't replace them by a long shot.

Duncan

On 7 Dec 2006 at 5:24, Coconut Oil

wrote:

>

> Posted by: " Bonnie Cole " bonnieview@... anunnakica

> Date: Wed Dec 6, 2006 9:10 pm ((PST))

>

>

>

>

> Below you were talking about Milk Thistle and I bought some. I

> thought it would help the Liver...on the bottle it says... " Consult a

> Health Care Practitioner if you have impaired Liver function " .

>

> Isn't Milk Thistle SPECIFICALLY used for impaired Liver function? I

> wasn't sure if I should use it.

>

> Thanks for clearing that up for me, anyone.

>

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie!

CS (Colloidal Silver is actually larger particles of silver vs the

nano-particles of EIS) or EIS = electrically isolated silver ions is a magic

cure.

I call it CS for simplicity. I make my own from an off-cast cd player 5 VDC 750

mA transformer, alligator clips, a quart mason jar, plastic lid to insert the 6 "

99.999 % pure 14 AWG silver electrodes in and a 1/4 " bend for the clips. I cook

this for 8 to 10 hours and get a 15 to 20 ppm product that will KILL single cell

pathogens on contact (IE: candida or yeast).

For further info join the silver list: http://silverlist.org/

You can buy commercial units at www.silverpuppy.com or www.silvergen.com

I have been taking a tbls of vco with every meal for about three weeks now and

my body temp has raised from 96.8 to normal 98.6.....

Love

Bob

Adageyudi

Staya Udanvti

[Guest guest]

Good luck . The best gall bladder, liver flush is by Hulda .

I've done it with good results. Good luck man.

liver

I have a liver problem too, Hyperbilirubinemia.

My Bilirubin count has been high for at least a year. Also some liver

enzymes are very high.

Tested negative for Hepatitis A, B and C and.

Ultrasound confirmed no blockage in bile ducts.

Have been taking many herbs to unclog the liver in addition to gall

bladder flushes and acupuncture.

Viral/bacterial infection?

My doctor is hoping my current treatments of 8,000 IU of vitamin D a

day and weekly UV Light treatments of the blood will kill off the bad

stuff and help get the immune system working again to the point where

it corrects itself.

We'll see.

On Jun 21, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Marc wrote:

> McAfee wrote:

>> I think there is more going on than I understand and I believe that

>> the

>> EM frequencies are freeing up toxins that have lodged within fats and

>> tissues and releasing them into the blood stream.

>

> I think this is also the case.

>

> However, the mobilization of toxins would probably also happen for a

> " normal " person, so I think an ES person must also have a problem where

> the usual processes of detoxification in the liver/kidneys/colon are

> not

> working 100%.

>

> Marc

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Me too. 4 times

On Jun 21, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Bourgeois wrote:

> Good luck . The best gall bladder, liver flush is by Hulda

> .

>

> I've done it with good results. Good luck man.

>

> liver

>

>

> I have a liver problem too, Hyperbilirubinemia.

> My Bilirubin count has been high for at least a year. Also some liver

> enzymes are very high.

> Tested negative for Hepatitis A, B and C and.

> Ultrasound confirmed no blockage in bile ducts.

> Have been taking many herbs to unclog the liver in addition to gall

> bladder flushes and acupuncture.

> Viral/bacterial infection?

> My doctor is hoping my current treatments of 8,000 IU of vitamin D a

> day and weekly UV Light treatments of the blood will kill off the bad

> stuff and help get the immune system working again to the point where

> it corrects itself.

> We'll see.

>

>

> On Jun 21, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Marc wrote:

>

>> McAfee wrote:

>>> I think there is more going on than I understand and I believe that

>>> the

>>> EM frequencies are freeing up toxins that have lodged within fats and

>>> tissues and releasing them into the blood stream.

>>

>> I think this is also the case.

>>

>> However, the mobilization of toxins would probably also happen for a

>> " normal " person, so I think an ES person must also have a problem

>> where

>> the usual processes of detoxification in the liver/kidneys/colon are

>> not

>> working 100%.

>>

>> Marc

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

>> Good luck . The best gall bladder, liver flush is by Hulda

>> .

> Me too. 4 times

I did the Hulda liver flush over 10 times, and never noticed

much improvement at all from this. I did however see a lot of

strange stuff come out of me, so it must have done SOMETHING...

Marc

[Guest guest]

With most people the elektrosmog is attacking the liver.

The stuff coming out is not strange.

It consists fof gallstones together with cholesterol stones.

Many people who did this 24 hour priceless liver cleansing method, did feel

afterwards much better.

They were less bothered by the elektrosmog, and had more energy.

Greetings,

Claessens

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Re: liver

>>> Good luck . The best gall bladder, liver flush is by Hulda

>>> .

>

>> Me too. 4 times

>

> I did the Hulda liver flush over 10 times, and never noticed

> much improvement at all from this. I did however see a lot of

> strange stuff come out of me, so it must have done SOMETHING...

>

> Marc

>

>

[Guest guest]

> The stuff coming out is not strange.

> It consists fof gallstones together with cholesterol stones.

The stuff that I was referring to looked like black gravel. This

is different than the green blobs that most people report (and

I also saw on other flushes)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

I was just thinking, have you tried FIR lights or saunas? I know the UV

is for breaking down the bilirubin, but the other might help you sweat

that and other stuff out.

I sometimes just sleep with my 250watt one on me all night. Feels great.

Well, I don't about as it warms up in the summer, but up to now it's

been good.

~ Snoshoe

>

> I have a liver problem too, Hyperbilirubinemia.

> My Bilirubin count has been high for at least a year. Also some liver

> enzymes are very high.

> Tested negative for Hepatitis A, B and C and.

> Ultrasound confirmed no blockage in bile ducts.

> Have been taking many herbs to unclog the liver in addition to gall

> bladder flushes and acupuncture.

> Viral/bacterial infection?

> My doctor is hoping my current treatments of 8,000 IU of vitamin D a

> day and weekly UV Light treatments of the blood will kill off the bad

> stuff and help get the immune system working again to the point where

> it corrects itself.

> We'll see.

>

[Guest guest]

Does anyone else have large brown spots on the backs of their hands? Mine

are very bad and I think it's a combination of the incoming pollution and

the

electronic problems I have. I feel so ashamed of them.

Maureen

Re: liver

> Hey ,

> I was just thinking, have you tried FIR lights or saunas? I know the UV

> is for breaking down the bilirubin, but the other might help you sweat

> that and other stuff out.

>

> I sometimes just sleep with my 250watt one on me all night. Feels great.

> Well, I don't about as it warms up in the summer, but up to now it's

> been good.

>

> ~ Snoshoe

>

>

> >

> > I have a liver problem too, Hyperbilirubinemia.

> > My Bilirubin count has been high for at least a year. Also some liver

> > enzymes are very high.

> > Tested negative for Hepatitis A, B and C and.

> > Ultrasound confirmed no blockage in bile ducts.

> > Have been taking many herbs to unclog the liver in addition to gall

> > bladder flushes and acupuncture.

> > Viral/bacterial infection?

> > My doctor is hoping my current treatments of 8,000 IU of vitamin D a

> > day and weekly UV Light treatments of the blood will kill off the bad

> > stuff and help get the immune system working again to the point where

> > it corrects itself.

> > We'll see.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

m.a.norman wrote:

> Does anyone else have large brown spots on the backs of their hands? Mine

> are very bad and I think it's a combination of the incoming pollution and

> the electronic problems I have. I feel so ashamed of them.

When I was at my worst (6 years ago), I had some brown spots on my face.

These faded away with all my detoxification efforts, and I think they

are mostly gone now.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Thanks Marc. I've found that in the past after bad bouts they're worse

and

they do fade, but come back again when the problem is bad.

Maureen

Re: Re: liver

> m.a.norman wrote:

> > Does anyone else have large brown spots on the backs of their hands?

Mine

> > are very bad and I think it's a combination of the incoming pollution

and

> > the electronic problems I have. I feel so ashamed of them.

>

> When I was at my worst (6 years ago), I had some brown spots on my face.

> These faded away with all my detoxification efforts, and I think they

> are mostly gone now.

>

> Marc

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Maureen

I just signed on. I am on a few other EMF lists but I love this one.

I am working on an introductory post but I want to jump in on this one.

My husband has several on his arms. He has been going through a deep

course of classical homeopathy and they got worse. He finally went to

the butcher and got a couple of butterfly (thin) cuts of steak. He

kept one on for about 24 hours and they lightened considerably but

they were pretty hot to the touch. He then applied organic castor

oil and wrapped it in saran and went to sleep. The next morning the

spots were significantly diminished. He is now sleeping with a

poultice of the second steak.

The homeopath thinks that he has a very old virus from when he was

about 9 years old. Classical homeopathy is a tough course to follow

but has had so many problems for about 10 years that it has

been very worthwhile. I don't think there are too many good classical

homeopaths around.

Good health to you all and I will finish my intro soon.

Yolanda

On Jun 22, 2007, at 2:00 AM, m.a.norman wrote:

> Does anyone else have large brown spots on the backs of their

> hands? Mine

> are very bad and I think it's a combination of the incoming

> pollution and

> the

> electronic problems I have. I feel so ashamed of them.

>

> Maureen

[Guest guest]

Thanks Yolande it sounds like something is in the meat the body

is deprived of and is replenishes by it..

Maureen

Re: Re: liver

> Hi Maureen

>

> I just signed on. I am on a few other EMF lists but I love this one.

> I am working on an introductory post but I want to jump in on this one.

>

> My husband has several on his arms. He has been going through a deep

> course of classical homeopathy and they got worse. He finally went to

> the butcher and got a couple of butterfly (thin) cuts of steak. He

> kept one on for about 24 hours and they lightened considerably but

> they were pretty hot to the touch. He then applied organic castor

> oil and wrapped it in saran and went to sleep. The next morning the

> spots were significantly diminished. He is now sleeping with a

> poultice of the second steak.

>

> The homeopath thinks that he has a very old virus from when he was

> about 9 years old. Classical homeopathy is a tough course to follow

> but has had so many problems for about 10 years that it has

> been very worthwhile. I don't think there are too many good classical

> homeopaths around.

>

> Good health to you all and I will finish my intro soon.

>

> Yolanda

>

> On Jun 22, 2007, at 2:00 AM, m.a.norman wrote:

>

> > Does anyone else have large brown spots on the backs of their

> > hands? Mine

> > are very bad and I think it's a combination of the incoming

> > pollution and

> > the

> > electronic problems I have. I feel so ashamed of them.

> >

> > Maureen

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Jun 22, 2007, at 1:03 PM, m.a.norman wrote:

Or if one looked at it from a homeopathic perspective of like cures

like the meat was curing the meat of his body. At one point with the

brown spots they turned very angry and red and a bit bloody looking.

This might have been part of the homepathic aggravation (bringing the

dis-ease out so that it can exit the body). A steak poultice is a

very old remedy for a black eye.

Good health,

Yolanda

> Thanks Yolande it sounds like something is in the meat the body

> is deprived of and is replenishes by it..

>

> Maureen

>

> -

>> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

if you see a "normal" doctor they may want to remove the gallbladder just like they want to cut out everything else LOL I have never had another attack and the pectin took care of the first one so don't give up any body parts without a fight!

Engtovo

liver

Posted by: " Copp" nana_0357@... nana_0357@...

Sat Nov 7, 2009 7:14 pm (PST)

I never even considered gallbladder! Thanks so much to those of you who have replied to my post. I will be seeing my doc this week and will definately discuss this with her. It is so hard sometimes to seperate health issues from Iodine. What is a detox reaction and what is something else altogether. That is exactly why this sight is such a tremendous resource. Thanks to all who contribute.

[Guest guest]

Great information! Thanks so much!

[Guest guest]

I belong to the Native Nutrition group and Sally Fallon, Prsident of the Weston

A. Price Foundation (WAPF) says

1. grass fed beef does not have significantly more Omega 3, what it does have

is CLA, a cancer fighting agent.

2. Liver does not store toxins

3. There are plenty of places to order grass-fed beef, including liver, from.

Search on Google or search on the westonaprice.org site (which just changed it's

beautifully simple site to one many of us are upset about due to it's

complexity).

4. Join a WAPF chapter in your area (found in their site) and join one of their

buying groups to get price breaks.

Liver

>

>Back in the 60's, my cousin had MS.  My aunt did all kinds of research and

used to feed her raw liver.  (I don't think it helped; she had terribly

progressive MS and died within 10 years.)

> 

>Today, I have MS.  I'm not even sure there is safe liver out there for

purchase.  Doesn't the liver filter toxins?  Maybe there is organic liver out

there somewhere.

> 

>Anyway, according to Dr. Klenner protocol for MS, I now get liver injections

twice a week.  This way, I don't have to worry about the taste at all--and hold

the onions!!

> 

>Beverly

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Beverly,

Are you familiar with the MS link to low Vitamin D.3 levels? Look up

the VitaminDCouncil.org.

[Guest guest]

And this has what to do with Iodine?

Owner

Re:Liver

Beverly,Are you familiar with the MS link to low Vitamin D.3 levels? Look up the VitaminDCouncil.org.

[Guest guest]

Does iodine help you with the MS? We read about the benefits but I'm most

interested in personal stories.

Cheers,

Joan

>

> Back in the 60's, my cousin had MS.  My aunt did all kinds of research and

used to feed her raw liver.  (I don't think it helped; she had terribly

progressive MS and died within 10 years.)

>  

> Today, I have MS.  I'm not even sure there is safe liver out there for

purchase.  Doesn't the liver filter toxins?  Maybe there is organic liver out

there somewhere.

>  

> Anyway, according to Dr. Klenner protocol for MS, I now get liver injections

twice a week.  This way, I don't have to worry about the taste at all--and hold

the onions!!

>  

> Beverly

>

[Guest guest]

Elizebeth,

There is a difference between cuts of meat in terms of nutrient value.

Organ meats, liver, kidney are very high in nutrients.

Much higher than say sirloin,fillet or rump steak for the same weight.

Strangely though organ meats are much cheaper.

Consider the vitamins and mineral content of the 100g of lamb's liver shown in this link

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/lamb-veal-and-game-products/4669/2

For example vitamin A 25999 IU or 520% of the daily value,(DV)

0r Niacin 83% of the DV or folate 100% of the DV, B12 1428% of DV.

and in minerals iron 57% Dv, Copper 492% DV, Selenium 166 %DV

and provides 51% of protein intake DV.

All of the above are part of any healthy regime and in a bio available

form unlike many synthetic vitamins.with dubious origins and GMO

ancestry.

Iron too is heme which is much more bio available than nonheme as in lentils

and beans.

B12 is so high makes one wonder about the scientific status of Daily Values.

however B12 deficiency can create serious health problems.and is difficult

to get in a vegetarian diet.

The other important consideration is the inflammatory factor. or how acid

is the food we are eating as acidity can give rise to inflammation.

To overcome this problem the owner of the site shown above, has a colourful

triangle which shows a colourful triangle with an inflammatory number.

for lamb its -670 so quite acidic. One would need to balance this with much more alkaline foods vegetables, including greens,parsley,cabbage etc.

inflammationfactor.com. shows the inflammatory values of regular foods. which you may

find interesting.

From: Parashis <artpages@...>Subject: Re: Liveriodine Date: Tuesday, 16 February, 2010, 14:20

I belong to the Native Nutrition group and Sally Fallon, Prsident of the Weston A. Price Foundation (WAPF) says1. grass fed beef does not have significantly more Omega 3, what it does have is CLA, a cancer fighting agent.2. Liver does not store toxins3. There are plenty of places to order grass-fed beef, including liver, from. Search on Google or search on the westonaprice. org site (which just changed it's beautifully simple site to one many of us are upset about due to it's complexity).4. Join a WAPF chapter in your area (found in their site) and join one of their buying groups to get price breaks. Liver>>Back in the 60's, my cousin had MS. My aunt did all kinds of research and used to feed her raw liver. (I don't think it helped; she had terribly progressive MS and died within 10 years.)> >Today, I have MS. I'm not even sure there is safe liver out there for purchase. Doesn't the liver filter toxins? Maybe there is organic liver out there somewhere.> >Anyway, according to Dr. Klenner protocol for MS, I now get liver injections twice a week. This way, I don't have to worry about the taste at all--and hold the onions!!> >Beverly>>>

[Guest guest]

Hi,Mauricio!! I eat Organic dry fruit, i do not have a problem with eating it in

moderation..( they can get molds if not stored proper)like anything else... is

this warning only for people with Liver problems?? Thannx ) tte

>

> A good organic kombucha brewed in lead free glass not ceramic or metal will

help as it is a body detoxifier and helps to alkalinize the body.

> The body requires a variety of nutritients and our present food supply is

lacking which is why as a Nutrition Coach I recommend high powered supplements.

>

> [section removed - product advertising is not allowed - Moderator]

>

> Avoid white bread, sugar, white flour and potatoes and dried fruit. Where

ever possible get organic meats and produce.

> Stay in touch.

>

> Mauricio Duarte, PTA

> Nutrition Coach

> ANA Certified for DSHEA Compliance

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,Mauricio!! I eat Organic dry fruit, i do not have a problem with eating it in

moderation..( they can get molds if not stored proper)like anything else... is

this warning only for people with Liver problems?? Thannx ) tte

>

> A good organic kombucha brewed in lead free glass not ceramic or metal will

help as it is a body detoxifier and helps to alkalinize the body.

> The body requires a variety of nutritients and our present food supply is

lacking which is why as a Nutrition Coach I recommend high powered supplements.

>

> [section removed - product advertising is not allowed - Moderator]

>

> Avoid white bread, sugar, white flour and potatoes and dried fruit. Where

ever possible get organic meats and produce.

> Stay in touch.

>

> Mauricio Duarte, PTA

> Nutrition Coach

> ANA Certified for DSHEA Compliance

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey tte,

Dried fruit should be consumed in very small quantities due to their high

levels of sugar.

Mauricio Duarte, PTA

Nutrition Coach

ANA Certified for DSHEA Compliance

________________________________

From: Jahjet <jahjet@...>

kombucha tea

Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 11:59:10 AM

Subject: Re: liver

Hi,Mauricio! ! I eat Organic dry fruit, i do not have a problem with eating it

in moderation.. ( they can get molds if not stored proper)like anything else...

is this warning only for people with Liver problems?? Thannx ) tte

>

> A good organic kombucha brewed in lead free glass not ceramic or metal will

help as it is a body detoxifier and helps to alkalinize the body.

> The body requires a variety of nutritients and our present food supply is

lacking which is why as a Nutrition Coach I recommend high powered supplements.

>

> [section removed - product advertising is not allowed - Moderator]

>

> Avoid white bread, sugar, white flour and potatoes and dried fruit. Where

ever possible get organic meats and produce.

> Stay in touch.

>

> Mauricio Duarte, PTA

> Nutrition Coach

> ANA Certified for DSHEA Compliance

>

>

>

>

>