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> Bee, I have a high regard for your advise. I have been reading this digest as

long as I have been on the diet, 2 years this past September and have begun to

feel so much better.

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> However I still have a lot of fatigue, and ran my saliva cortisol levels last

week and compaired to ones from 4/09. I still go low around 5:00pm and into the

evening hour. Not sure what they do when I am NOT sleeping. I am on the

adrenal group and posted my results (if anyone wants to see I will add) and they

recommended Isocort. I don't feel good about this supplement. I was taking Dr.

's supplements a couple of year ago, all but the adrenal things, was too

afraid was very sensitive from just getting of benzodiazepines and was very

sick.

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> 11/19/10: DHEA 31.4 (137-336) 4/08: 17.5

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> 11/19/10: C-AM 12.0 (5.1-40.2 4/08: 12.8

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> 11/19/09: C-Noon 3.0 (2.1-15.7) 4/08: 1.9

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> 11/19/10: C-Evening 0.8 (1.8-12.1) 4/08: 1.4

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> 11/19/10: C-Night 0.3 (0.9-9.2) 4/08: 1.4

> I have read his book and ur site as my bible along with your diet for 2 years

now. I would like to use his adrenal products to help heal my adrenals. Do you

have any opinion on this Bee? I will never go off of the diet, can not. I have

read all your thyroid and adrenal info. I had my thyroid RAI in 2000, Graves

Disease. But I seriously believe I fried my adrenal many many years ago and they

are sick. I have just begun taking Nature Throid now, but they advise me to

treat adrenals more than this diet before I raise my NT.

+++Hi Gail. It is normal for cortisol levels to fluctuate throughout the day,

which are maximum in the morning, and lower towards night, while at midnight

they are minimum.

I believe your body is just now " retracing " taking Dr. 's supplements 2

years ago, because the thyroid is now going through its low stage and that's why

you are fatigued.

Did you know that cortisol levels are regulated by the pituitary gland (in the

head) by a growth hormone called ACTH? Growth hormones are produced in the

pituitary gland from cholesterol in the body, and it works to stimulate the

growth of cells, creating new cells, rebuild tissues, etc. For example, hair

growth is maintained by the production of growth hormone. Tissue repair from

injury and normal aging requires growth hormone.

If you take adrenal hormones to force cortisol levels up, it results in a

metabolic imbalance, which forces the pituitary gland to lower its growth

hormones.

I'm just reading Life Without Bread by Lutz, which has a chapter on hormones.

He writes: " Hormones have many functions as the body's messengers. In

scientific language, they are referred to as signalers. NOTE>>> They are so

important that all other signals within the cells are ignored when a hormonal

signal is sent. "

Gail if you take adrenal hormones it will interfere with all of the hormone

signaling processes throughout the body, but particularly those produced by the

pituitary gland.

He goes on to say: " Not only do hormones send signals they also can help perform

specific biochemical functions. For example, if you cut yourself, your body

sends out signals to repair and replace tissue. Growth hormone is associated

with new tissue growth. "

He writes this about the Metabolic Balancing Act: " The process of making new

tissue and new cells and breaking them down is called metabolism. Everything

that takes place to maintain life in your organs, tissues, cells, and inside

cells is lumped into the term " metabolism. "

Metabolism is the general term used to describe all the biochemical reactions

that keep the body alive. NOTE>>> Metabolism constitutes the balance between

making new tissue and breaking it down.

This balancing act is between the anabolic processes and the catabolic

processes. Anabolic processes are those that build molecules, tissue and even

organs in the body. An example is the replacement of tissue from an injury.

Catabolic processes are those that break down substances into simpler ones. An

example would be the breakdown of fat or sugar for use as energy.

Anabolism and catabolism are finely tuned processes that the body always strives

to keep in balance. If anabolic processes prevail, the result will be too much

building and not enough breaking down. Gaining weight represents excess

anabolism. If catabolic reactions dominate the physiology, there will be too

much tissue breakdown and a lack of tissue growth when needed. Hormones are the

messengers that strive to keep the body's anabolic and catabolic processes in

balance. "

He provides a diagram that shows the balancing act, and explains:

" . . . if any one of the hormones increases or decreases, relative to others, an

imbalance would occur. Small changes in this balance probably occur every day

in all of us, but it is the long-term effect of too much hormone weight on one

side of the hormonal teeter-totter that presents the real danger. "

The adrenals and thyroid produce catabolic hormones on the one side, while

anabolic hormones are insulin, sex hormones and growth hormones on the other

side.

Insulin is produced by the pancreas in order to maintain blood sugar levels, and

when they are increased to much due to a high-carb diet it leads to diabetes.

Growth hormones are produced in the pituitary gland from cholesterol in the

body, and it works to stimulate the growth of cells and tissues. For example,

hair growth is maintained by the production of growth hormone. Tissue repair

from injury and normal aging requires growth hormone.

In order to return to hormonal balance, either anabolic hormones must be

reduced, or catabolic hormones must increase. Either of these events contains a

potential problem that can lead to difference diseases.

+++Gail, this is what probably happened when your adrenals were fried.

On the anabolic side, the levels of growth hormone will often decrease to

achieve hormonal balance when insulin levels, or adrenal hormones are high.

Diminished amounts of growth hormone affect the health of the whole body,

including musculature, cartilage, bones, and arteries. All tissue requires

constant rebuilding to maintain proper function.

Growth hormone is also important for making new enzymes and other proteins in

the body. If enzymes are not replaced, then the damage that naturally occurs

during metabolism can have a negative effect on many cellular processes.

It also results in the ability of the pituitary gland to produce its hormones.

I also think you should not start on any thyroid hormones at this late stage

since it will cause imbalances just when your thyroid is trying to normalize.

All the best, Bee

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Hi Bee, thanks for anwering my question on Dr. 's products. First, I

should have mentioned, my thyroid has been destroyed by RAI since 2000, I must

take hormones for it. I just changed from Levo to NT, and so far so good. I had

labs consistent with Graves D. When they destroyed it, my life and health

changed compeletly. It has never been the same. Then put on a benzo for severe

insomnia, and then 2 years later, an 18 month taper pushed me over the edge.

Then I found you.

The products that I took did not have hormone in them, nor the ones I want to

take. They are supposed to be freezed dried to kill hormones. I really feel I

need some addiction support for my adrenals, I was under gross stress for the 18

months coming off the benzos, in pure rage 12 hours a day. And no sleep at all.

I am tapped completely out. I did find that I had a yeast infection with a stool

specimen, and that is when I found you. I definitely have Candia, after just a

month, my flu symptoms left. And if I eat bread I am bloated.

The other book that has been a Bible is " Life Without Bread " happy you are

reading it. I should have given credit to you, Dr. 's book and Life

without bread, all three are here and used just about daily for my resources.

Thanks Bee for all you do!

Gail

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> Hi Bee, thanks for anwering my question on Dr. 's products. First, I

should have mentioned, my thyroid has been destroyed by RAI since 2000, I must

take hormones for it. I just changed from Levo to NT, and so far so good. I had

labs consistent with Graves D. When they destroyed it, my life and health

changed compeletly. It has never been the same. Then put on a benzo for severe

insomnia, and then 2 years later, an 18 month taper pushed me over the edge.

Then I found you.

+++Hi Gail. I don't have a thyroid either, since it was destroyed by

radioactive iodine (RAI) in 1986 while I was curing my candida. That was

because my thyroid was beginning to normalize yet the doctor still had me taking

meds and iodine, so it went into a tizzy from low to serious Grave's Disease in

a short time.

+++However, I'm doing very well taking a combination of natural dessicated

thyroid and a bit of synthroid but I take doses 3 times a day, which helps a

lot.

> The products that I took did not have hormone in them, nor the ones I want to

take. They are supposed to be freezed dried to kill hormones.

+++Why would you want to take something that kills hormones?

I really feel I need some addiction support for my adrenals, I was under gross

stress for the 18 months coming off the benzos, in pure rage 12 hours a day. And

no sleep at all. I am tapped completely out. I did find that I had a yeast

infection with a stool specimen, and that is when I found you. I definitely have

Candia, after just a month, my flu symptoms left. And if I eat bread I am

bloated.

+++I think it is better to just allow Nature to take its course, stick to this

program and keep going. It will take as long as it takes to get healthy, which

can be different timing for you because of taking benzos for so long.

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> The other book that has been a Bible is " Life Without Bread " happy you are

reading it. I should have given credit to you, Dr. 's book and Life

without bread, all three are here and used just about daily for my resources.

+++I'm really enjoying Life Without Bread.

All the best, Bee

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