Please advise -- Is this okay to use for a urinary tract infection?

[Guest guest]

I bought something called Mannose and botanicals for my urinary tract infection.

The ingredients are:

d-mannose  - 5 gm

bearberry leaf

blueberry -- whole fruit powder

cranberry -- whole fruit powder

Dandelion root

goldenrod

goldenseal

parsley

Obviously, this contains things that are not on the diet.  I am feeling very

worried, however, that if I don't treat this UTI I might end up having to take

an antibiotic -- which I do NOT want to do if I can possibly help it.  I am

drinking lots of water and eating raw garlic, but don't know if that is going to

clear the infection.  I almost wonder if taking this --- and risking the

recurrence of thrush in my baby -- is a better option than the UTI getting out

of control and ending up on an antibiotic. 

Bee, can you advise?  I was thinking of taking it tonight.

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

>

> I bought something called Mannose and botanicals for my urinary tract

infection.

>

> The ingredients are:

>

> d-mannose  - 5 gm

>

> bearberry leaf

>

> blueberry -- whole fruit powder

>

> cranberry -- whole fruit powder

>

> Dandelion root

>

> goldenrod

>

> goldenseal

>

> parsley

>

> Obviously, this contains things that are not on the diet.  I am feeling very

worried, however, that if I don't treat this UTI I might end up having to take

an antibiotic -- which I do NOT want to do if I can possibly help it.  I am

drinking lots of water and eating raw garlic, but don't know if that is going to

clear the infection.  I almost wonder if taking this --- and risking the

recurrence of thrush in my baby -- is a better option than the UTI getting out

of control and ending up on an antibiotic. 

>

> Bee, can you advise?  I was thinking of taking it tonight.

>

> Thanks!

>

@@ Hi ,

As you suspected, some of the ingredients in that product contain things that

may aggravate your UTI , rather than not. Thus, inadvisable. We've also had

many on group with UTI's that considered antibiotics.

However, instead many approached the issue with parsley tea and other

suggestions listed below and recovered, as I'm sure you can too. Get some

parsley from your local supermarket, if you have none in the house or you may

make garlic tea. Which you'll find the recipe in the link I've provided, below.

How to make Parsley Tea

* Boil 4 cups of filtered water.

* Remove the water from the heat.

* Mince (cut up finely) 4 heaping teaspoons of fresh parsley

(including stems, & roots if you can get them).

* Steep 20 minutes; strain — it is okay to drink hot or cold, and

it may be reheated without harming it, but do not boil it.

* Drink all 4 cups throughout the course of one day, for 6-7 days.

, here is the link to the above suggestion and more.

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/women5.php

Best in Health,

Ed

group moderator

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

My own experience with UTI's is that in the past when they got

terrible I took the antibiotics (unhappily) and of course they made

the candida much worse. But since I've been working toward being on

Bee's diet completely and on it strictly (about 7 or 8 months), I've

realized something for myself. What 'feels' like a urinary infection

is in fact so totally candida-related that being very strict with the

diet for 3 to 5 days I found it simply disappeared! I have no idea

how to explain it; if it is more candida localized in the area or

something else related, so I call it " candida related. " And it was

bad enough that I had severe burning on urination. A western doctor

would caution that antibiotics are so 'needed' because of possible

kidney infection, etc. These symptoms just went away completely when

I was strict for just a few days.

I didn't know about the parsley tea for UTI's and other things that

Ed advised, or I would have tried those, of course. Parsley tea is

very powerful -- I know because for literally decades I've seen

references to it for some types of cleansings (sorry, don't remember

now), and once I drank too much at one time and paid the price with

healing reactions.

I hope you can recover quickly, -- I know how annoying these

symptoms are.

To Health,

Jude

At 03:20 PM 11/26/2010, you wrote:

>

>

>I bought something called Mannose and botanicals for my urinary

>tract infection.

>

>The ingredients are:

>

>d-mannose - 5 gm

>

>bearberry leaf

>

>blueberry -- whole fruit powder

>

>cranberry -- whole fruit powder

>

>Dandelion root

>

>goldenrod

>

>goldenseal

>

>parsley

>

>Obviously, this contains things that are not on the diet. I am

>feeling very worried, however, that if I don't treat this UTI I

>might end up having to take an antibiotic -- which I do NOT want to

>do if I can possibly help it. I am drinking lots of water and

>eating raw garlic, but don't know if that is going to clear the

>infection. I almost wonder if taking this --- and risking the

>recurrence of thrush in my baby -- is a better option than the UTI

>getting out of control and ending up on an antibiotic.

>

>Bee, can you advise? I was thinking of taking it tonight.

>

>Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you , Ed.  I will try the parsley tea, as well as the garlic tea.  I am

already eating raw garlic.

Any ideas on how to treat the mastitis?

Thanks again,

From: Ed <imysterios@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Please advise -- Is this okay to use for a urinary

tract infection?

Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 6:50 PM

 

>

> I bought something called Mannose and botanicals for my urinary tract

infection.

>

> The ingredients are:

>

> d-mannose  - 5 gm

>

> bearberry leaf

>

> blueberry -- whole fruit powder

>

> cranberry -- whole fruit powder

>

> Dandelion root

>

> goldenrod

>

> goldenseal

>

> parsley

>

> Obviously, this contains things that are not on the diet.  I am feeling very

worried, however, that if I don't treat this UTI I might end up having to take

an antibiotic -- which I do NOT want to do if I can possibly help it.  I am

drinking lots of water and eating raw garlic, but don't know if that is going to

clear the infection.  I almost wonder if taking this --- and risking the

recurrence of thrush in my baby -- is a better option than the UTI getting out

of control and ending up on an antibiotic. 

>

> Bee, can you advise?  I was thinking of taking it tonight.

>

> Thanks!

>

@@ Hi ,

As you suspected, some of the ingredients in that product contain things that

may aggravate your UTI , rather than not. Thus, inadvisable. We've also had

many on group with UTI's that considered antibiotics.

However, instead many approached the issue with parsley tea and other

suggestions listed below and recovered, as I'm sure you can too. Get some

parsley from your local supermarket, if you have none in the house or you may

make garlic tea. Which you'll find the recipe in the link I've provided, below.

How to make Parsley Tea

* Boil 4 cups of filtered water.

* Remove the water from the heat.

* Mince (cut up finely) 4 heaping teaspoons of fresh parsley

(including stems, & roots if you can get them).

* Steep 20 minutes; strain — it is okay to drink hot or cold, and

it may be reheated without harming it, but do not boil it.

* Drink all 4 cups throughout the course of one day, for 6-7 days.

, here is the link to the above suggestion and more.

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/women5.php

Best in Health,

Ed

group moderator

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jude, for your input.  I didn't have much pain when urinating. Rather,

just a frequent urge to urinate, plus pain in my lower, left abdominal region.

And a terrible headache. And the mastitis.  I have not been drinking nearly

enough water over the past few days, and have also not gotten much sleep. 

I think you experience of what once seemed like a UTI being candida-related is

fascinating and will keep it in mind, for sure.  I am not fully on the diet. 

I think part of the culprit was that I was drinking too  much decaf coffee. 

Like 3 cups a day.  That will now stop.

Thanks again,

>

>

>I bought something called Mannose and botanicals for my urinary

>tract infection.

>

>The ingredients are:

>

>d-mannose - 5 gm

>

>bearberry leaf

>

>blueberry -- whole fruit powder

>

>cranberry -- whole fruit powder

>

>Dandelion root

>

>goldenrod

>

>goldenseal

>

>parsley

>

>Obviously, this contains things that are not on the diet. I am

>feeling very worried, however, that if I don't treat this UTI I

>might end up having to take an antibiotic -- which I do NOT want to

>do if I can possibly help it. I am drinking lots of water and

>eating raw garlic, but don't know if that is going to clear the

>infection. I almost wonder if taking this --- and risking the

>recurrence of thrush in my baby -- is a better option than the UTI

>getting out of control and ending up on an antibiotic.

>

>Bee, can you advise? I was thinking of taking it tonight.

>

>Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

<snip>

> Obviously, this contains things that are not on the diet.  I am feeling very

worried, however, that if I don't treat this UTI I might end up having to take

an antibiotic -- which I do NOT want to do if I can possibly help it.  I am

drinking lots of water and eating raw garlic, but don't know if that is going to

clear the infection.  I almost wonder if taking this --- and risking the

recurrence of thrush in my baby -- is a better option than the UTI getting out

of control and ending up on an antibiotic. 

>

> Bee, can you advise?  I was thinking of taking it tonight.

+++Hi ,

I thought I advised that your body was retracing a previous UTI, so there won't

be any bugs? So you want to treat something that is non-existent? Please

re-read my message to you!

If you want to check it out, get tested and let me know if they find any bugs of

any kind.

If you are on this program you cannot get so bad you'd ever need a poison like

antibiotics to treat something. What do you think people did before drugs and

poisons were available? Back then doctors were still advising people to eat

well, particularly the body building nutrients like meats, eggs, butter, and to

not have sugars and starches.

I think it is important for you to read more so you understand the natural

healing processes your body goes through. Then you won't become so scared and

think you need to treat each and every symptom like doctors do <<<We know that

doesn't work!!

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you , Ed.  I will try the parsley tea, as well as the garlic tea.  I

am already eating raw garlic.

>

> Any ideas on how to treat the mastitis?

+++Hi ,

I also advised that your mastitis is because of " retracing " and the timing is

right as far as how long you've been on this program.

Please re-read my message to you about this, and also read the article on

retracing. You are becoming overly concerned about something that is normal to

happen on this program.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks, Jude, for your input.  I didn't have much pain when urinating.

Rather, just a frequent urge to urinate, plus pain in my lower, left abdominal

region. And a terrible headache. And the mastitis.  I have not been drinking

nearly enough water over the past few days, and have also not gotten much sleep.

+++Hi ,

When the kidneys and bladder are getting rid of toxins you will feel the

frequent urge to urinate too, so that is nothing abnormal. However, ensure you

aren't having fruits of any kind since they will make your bladder burn and

increase your urge to urinate, along with having too much tea.

Your headache is also caused by toxins being released.

Any nutrients you are giving your body to this point will help your body heal

even if you aren't completely on the program. Therefore your UTI and mastitis,

which were more recent, will be among the first symptoms your body will retrace.

Bee

[Guest guest]

+++Hi ,

I thought I advised that your body was retracing a previous UTI, so there won't

be any bugs? So you want to treat something that is non-existent? Please

re-read my message to you!  

Bee, I don't recall getting a previous message.  I looked twice for a response,

but didn't see it.  I apologize if I overlooked it.

Thanks,

If you want to check it out, get tested and let me know if they find any bugs of

any kind.

If you are on this program you cannot get so bad you'd ever need a poison like

antibiotics to treat something. What do you think people did before drugs and

poisons were available? Back then doctors were still advising people to eat

well, particularly the body building nutrients like meats, eggs, butter, and to

not have sugars and starches.

I think it is important for you to read more so you understand the natural

healing processes your body goes through. Then you won't become so scared and

think you need to treat each and every symptom like doctors do <<<We know that

doesn't work!!

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee, thanks for your reply. 

I am sorry if I missed your previous response to my question.  I looked --

twice, I thought -- for an email and did not find one. I did get one from Ed,

who guided me toward parsley tea -- YUM! -- thanks, Ed.

Again, I'm sorry if I missed your first response.  I must have somehow missed

it.  Sorry to make you respond twice. 

Best,

From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Please advise -- Is this okay to use for a

urinary tract infection?

Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:59 AM

 

>

> Thanks, Jude, for your input.  I didn't have much pain when urinating.

Rather, just a frequent urge to urinate, plus pain in my lower, left abdominal

region. And a terrible headache. And the mastitis.  I have not been drinking

nearly enough water over the past few days, and have also not gotten much sleep.

+++Hi ,

When the kidneys and bladder are getting rid of toxins you will feel the

frequent urge to urinate too, so that is nothing abnormal. However, ensure you

aren't having fruits of any kind since they will make your bladder burn and

increase your urge to urinate, along with having too much tea.

Your headache is also caused by toxins being released.

Any nutrients you are giving your body to this point will help your body heal

even if you aren't completely on the program. Therefore your UTI and mastitis,

which were more recent, will be among the first symptoms your body will retrace.

Bee

[Guest guest]

I'm going through this too,and am very discouraged. I use to get UTI's often

which is why I'm in the condition I am today. Everytime with antibiotics which I

believe has put me into a vicious cycle. I was able to avoid UTI's for 2 years

which I thought was due to changing my diet to Traditional, adding probiotics

and natural vitamins. But, then back in June I got another infection. I tried

several herbal things, D-Mannose, Echinasea, etc. but, after 10 days of

excruciating pain I succumed to the antibiotic. Then, this past Tuesday, I began

feeling the familiar itch that seems to be the way it starts out, so right away

I started the D-Mannose and got a culture done to see if it was bacteria. In the

mean time, I started parsely tea on Thursday (Thanksgiving) but, wasn't able to

give it chance to see if it worked because by then it was getting worse instead

of better. Again I worried that it would go to my kidneys, and the pain was so

bad. I still waited to get the results of the culture which turned out to be

ecoli and I finally gave in to the antibiotic. Today although the pain is slowly

going away, I still feel the itch that I usually feel before the infection

starts. So, I'm thinking it must be yeast and I'm pretty much feeling doomed

because, If it's candida, it's going to get even worse with the antibiotic which

in turn will cause more UTI's. If I don't find something that really works to

kill bacteria other than antibiotics it will end up beating me. About 6 weeks

ago, I started GAPS intro so, I would think I'd be starving the bad bugs and

yeast etc. The only thing that could be is that I have been eating butternut

squash but, compared to what I was eating before, it's very minimal so, why

would this come on now whem I'm eating better than ever? Except for the

butternut squash,which I stopped as of yesterday, is there something else I

could do right now to thwart the yeast quick enough as to not risk another

infection as soon as I get rid of this one. I know I'm rambling on and I'm in

such a panic right now. Someone gave me some ideas of alternatives for

antibiotics and of course I will have them on hand for the next time, but, if

the don't work what then??? I'm hesitant to send this because I know there's no

quick fixes but, I feel so desperate. Thanks for listening.

Lori

>

> <snip>

> > Obviously, this contains things that are not on the diet.  I am feeling very

worried, however, that if I don't treat this UTI I might end up having to take

an antibiotic -- which I do NOT want to do if I can possibly help it.  I am

drinking lots of water and eating raw garlic, but don't know if that is going to

clear the infection.  I almost wonder if taking this --- and risking the

recurrence of thrush in my baby -- is a better option than the UTI getting out

of control and ending up on an antibiotic. 

> >

> > Bee, can you advise?  I was thinking of taking it tonight.

>

> +++Hi ,

>

> I thought I advised that your body was retracing a previous UTI, so there

won't be any bugs? So you want to treat something that is non-existent? Please

re-read my message to you!

>

> If you want to check it out, get tested and let me know if they find any bugs

of any kind.

>

> If you are on this program you cannot get so bad you'd ever need a poison like

antibiotics to treat something. What do you think people did before drugs and

poisons were available? Back then doctors were still advising people to eat

well, particularly the body building nutrients like meats, eggs, butter, and to

not have sugars and starches.

>

> I think it is important for you to read more so you understand the natural

healing processes your body goes through. Then you won't become so scared and

think you need to treat each and every symptom like doctors do <<<We know that

doesn't work!!

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm going through this too,and am very discouraged. I use to get UTI's often

which is why I'm in the condition I am today. Everytime with antibiotics which I

believe has put me into a vicious cycle. I was able to avoid UTI's for 2 years

which I thought was due to changing my diet to Traditional, adding probiotics

and natural vitamins. But, then back in June I got another infection. I tried

several herbal things, D-Mannose, Echinasea, etc. but, after 10 days of

excruciating pain I succumed to the antibiotic. Then, this past Tuesday, I began

feeling the familiar itch that seems to be the way it starts out, so right away

I started the D-Mannose and got a culture done to see if it was bacteria. In the

mean time, I started parsely tea on Thursday (Thanksgiving) but, wasn't able to

give it chance to see if it worked because by then it was getting worse instead

of better. Again I worried that it would go to my kidneys, and the pain was so

bad. I still waited to get the results of the culture which turned out to be

ecoli and I finally gave in to the antibiotic. Today although the pain is slowly

going away, I still feel the itch that I usually feel before the infection

starts. So, I'm thinking it must be yeast and I'm pretty much feeling doomed

because, If it's candida, it's going to get even worse with the antibiotic which

in turn will cause more UTI's. If I don't find something that really works to

kill bacteria other than antibiotics it will end up beating me. About 6 weeks

ago, I started GAPS intro so, I would think I'd be starving the bad bugs and

yeast etc. The only thing that could be is that I have been eating butternut

squash but, compared to what I was eating before, it's very minimal so, why

would this come on now whem I'm eating better than ever? Except for the

butternut squash,which I stopped as of yesterday, is there something else I

could do right now to thwart the yeast quick enough as to not risk another

infection as soon as I get rid of this one. I know I'm rambling on and I'm in

such a panic right now. Someone gave me some ideas of alternatives for

antibiotics and of course I will have them on hand for the next time, but, if

the don't work what then??? I'm hesitant to send this because I know there's no

quick fixes but, I feel so desperate. Thanks for listening.

>

+++Hi Lori,

If you had stayed on parsley tea it would have helped you. My sister is a nurse

and she cured her infection by drinking it for 7 days, after 2 rounds of

antibiotics didn't help her.

Many people come here from GAPS and other programs because they don't get the

results from them. Other programs also believe you can starve candida, or kill

it off in order to cure it, but that is not true, and many of the foods they

recommend are damaging or too high in sugars. It has been known for centuries

that sugars and starches aren't healthy for humans.

So candida cannot be cured by " killing it off " or " starving it " like others

believe.

Candida is only cured by building up the immune system, which is done by:

1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (my diet plus supplements),

2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and

cancer),

3) Eliminating damaging foods, and

4) Eliminating toxins in general.

When you are healthy enough your own body will automatically " make " candida (or

any bug, cancer, etc.) change back into the organism it is supposed to be when

the body is healthy.

This program has proved over and over again to be an overall healing program

that improves anyone's health, and that's why it isn't just for people with

candida.

For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by members

of this group:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

It is very important that you read and learn first so you will understand what

you need to do and why. So ensure you read two important articles so you know

what you need to do and why:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

The best in health, Bee