Guest guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 I don't have the time to go into this at the moment, but the ro water is acidic. Acidic=inflamation. Distilled water is without minerals, and leaches the minerals from your body. The Japanese have been using a "water ionizer" that alkylizes your blood, etc. I have not gotten one yet, but we're working on it. My sons are sold on it. Re: Water filters I am replying to an older post ... I heard this as well - that only RO systems take out fluoride... We have RO for drinking but for the rest of the house, we have what is called an Urban Defender - it takes out most stuff like chlorine and other terrible chemicals, but not fluoride - because a whole house RO is a little too pricey. We know drinking fluoride is bad - but what about bathing in it? Do we absorb it through our skin like other stuff? How much of an issue is this? Any opinions? Thanks! Marlena >> The only way to get rid of fluoride is reverse osmosis. Honestly the counter top fliter systems aren't worth the money for the little they do. The make it taste better but really don't take much out.> > Steph> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 We absorb much more than we could ever drink. RO systems are not practical since they are very slow and would take a very long time to fill up a tub. I asked Wholly Water if they took out fluoride and perchlorate and they replied " yes " . If you call them and ask specifics about slowness and practicality for showers, I would like to know what they said. I can't afford anything right now but keep myself apprised in case a miracle happens. CEO@... Magnetizer@... http://wholly-water.com Thanks. ELizabeth On Jan 3, 2009, at 4:54 PM, marlenaappletree wrote: I am replying to an older post ... I heard this as well - that only RO systems take out fluoride... We have RO for drinking but for the rest of the house, we have what is called an Urban Defender - it takes out most stuff like chlorine and other terrible chemicals, but not fluoride - because a whole house RO is a little too pricey. We know drinking fluoride is bad - but what about bathing in it? Do we absorb it through our skin like other stuff? How much of an issue is this? Any opinions? Thanks! Marlena Parashis artpages@... artpagesonline.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 dr weill just had this advice in his e-mail tip of the day: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/TIP03165/Are-You-Showering-in-Chlorine.html marja On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Parashis <artpages@...> wrote: We absorb much more than we could ever drink.RO systems are not practical since they are very slow and would take a very long time to fill up a tub. I asked Wholly Water if they took out fluoride and perchlorate and they replied " yes " . If you call them and ask specifics about slowness and practicality for showers, I would like to know what they said. I can't afford anything right now but keep myself apprised in case a miracle happens.CEO@...Magnetizer@... http://wholly-water.comThanks.ELizabeth On Jan 3, 2009, at 4:54 PM, marlenaappletree wrote:I am replying to an older post ...I heard this as well - that only RO systems take out fluoride... We have RO for drinking but for the rest of the house, we have what is called an Urban Defender - it takes out most stuff like chlorine and other terrible chemicals, but not fluoride - because a whole house RO is a little too pricey. We know drinking fluoride is bad - but what about bathing in it? Do we absorb it through our skin like other stuff? How much of an issue is this? Any opinions? Thanks!Marlena Parashis artpages@...artpagesonline.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Please send scientific proof that this is the case. I am very alkaline on my R/O water. This is something that people assert all the time yet there is no basis to it. Re: Re: Water filters I don't have the time to go into this at the moment, but the ro water is acidic. Acidic=inflamation. Distilled water is without minerals, and leaches the minerals from your body. The Japanese have been using a "water ionizer" that alkylizes your blood, etc. I have not gotten one yet, but we're working on it. My sons are sold on it. Messages in this topic (41) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic MARKETPLACE From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Do they filter out perchlorate? Also, when you say they reduce the trace radioactive and heavy metal contaminants contained in the industrial fluorides and will react to form calcium fluoride - a naturally occurring form of fluoride found in mineral springs. does that mean just a little or almost all? This is important. The system sounds wonderful but not if " helps " means trace amounts. Thanks, On Jan 3, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Dr. Loretta Lanphier wrote: You might want to check out Wellness Filters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 > They do not remove the fluoride but reduce it to calcium fluoride which is > non-toxic and not retained in the body. Dear Dr Lanphier, I would like to hear more about this. There is so much fear of drinking tea which has calcium fluoride. I drink it anyway, because my intuition is that the fluoride in tea is not harmful. Dorothy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 , I don't have RO water here, but have a water distiller. I checked the distilled water with pHydrion strips, and found that the distilled water has a pH = 5.8. I suspect a similar pH might be attributed to RO water, as it is also void of buffering agents (as well as everything else). > > Please send scientific proof that this is the case. I am very alkaline on my R/O water. This is something that people assert all the time yet there is no basis to it. > > > > > Re: Re: Water filters > > > > I don't have the time to go into this at the moment, but the ro water is acidic. Acidic=inflamation. Distilled water is without minerals, and leaches the minerals from your body. The Japanese have been using a " water ionizer " that alkylizes your blood, etc. I have not gotten one yet, but we're working on it. My sons are sold on it. > > > Messages in this topic (41) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Database | Polls | Calendar > > > > > MARKETPLACE > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity > a.. 21New Members > Visit Your Group > New business? > Get new customers. > > List your web site > > in Search. > > Drive Traffic > Sponsored Search > > can help increase > > your site traffic. > > Find helpful tips > for Moderators > > on the > > Groups team blog. > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 that's why it has a specific use in detoxing, for a specific period of time. if drinking the body has to give up precious alkaline minerals (esp. calcium ) to bring the pH up to neutral to maintain homeostasis. (blood pH 7.35 to 7.45). linda rn Re: Re: Water filters> > > > I don't have the time to go into this at the moment, but the ro water is acidic. Acidic=inflamation. Distilled water is without minerals, and leaches the minerals from your body. The Japanese have been using a "water ionizer" that alkylizes your blood, etc. I have not gotten one yet, but we're working on it. My sons are sold on it. > > > Messages in this topic (41) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Database | Polls | Calendar > > > > > MARKETPLACE> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity> a.. 21New Members> Visit Your Group > New business?> Get new customers.> > List your web site> > in Search.> > Drive Traffic> Sponsored Search> > can help increase> > your site traffic.> > Find helpful tips> for Moderators> > on the > > Groups team blog.> .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hi Dorothy The following was taken from a post at curezone that I had in one of my folders. Possibly this will help in understanding the safety of calcium fluoride. If we look at the LD50 rating it sheds a little light about calcium fluoride. For those who don’t know what the LD50 rating is, LD stands for " Lethal Dose " . LD50 is the amount of a material, given all at once, which causes the death of 50% (one half) of a group of test animals. The LD50 is one way that is used to measure the short-term poisoning potential (acute toxicity) of a material. The LD50 rating of elemental fluoride is 52 mg/kg, which is very low. In other words this indicates that it is a very toxic substance. The LD50 rating for Calcium-Fluoride is 4,250 mg/kg. That is about the same rating that table salt gets. In other words while pure fluoride is highly toxic, calcium fluoride is about as toxic as table salt. (Notice we are talking about toxicity, not the same properties as table salt.) It seems the calcium nearly totally neutralizes the fluoride. http://www.frzee.org/Fluoride.doc - pretty good article about the history of using fluoride and the effective use of propaganda. Be Well, Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH www.oasisadvancedwellness.com -----Original Message----- > They do not remove the fluoride but reduce it to calcium fluoride which is non-toxic and not retained in the body. Dear Dr Lanphier, I would like to hear more about this. There is so much fear of drinking tea which has calcium fluoride. I drink it anyway, because my intuition is that the fluoride in tea is not harmful. Dorothy ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 I checked both the distilled which I'm drinking now per my chiro and the ro water I buy from the water store and both were 5.8. The prills water made with the ro is 6.4 and my saliva is 7.2. Just my experiment. Nonie>> , I don't have RO water here, but have a water distiller. I > checked the distilled water with pHydrion strips, and found that the > distilled water has a pH = 5.8. I suspect a similar pH might be > attributed to RO water, as it is also void of buffering agents (as > well as everything else).> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Me too Steph...and I test my water regularly. V > > Please send scientific proof that this is the case. I am very alkaline on my R/O water. This is something that people assert all the time yet there is no basis to it. > > > > > Re: Re: Water filters > > > > I don't have the time to go into this at the moment, but the ro water is acidic. Acidic=inflamation. Distilled water is without minerals, and leaches the minerals from your body. The Japanese have been using a " water ionizer " that alkylizes your blood, etc. I have not gotten one yet, but we're working on it. My sons are sold on it. > > > Messages in this topic (41) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Database | Polls | Calendar > > > > > MARKETPLACE > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity > a.. 21New Members > Visit Your Group > New business? > Get new customers. > > List your web site > > in Search. > > Drive Traffic > Sponsored Search > > can help increase > > your site traffic. > > Find helpful tips > for Moderators > > on the > > Groups team blog. > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Is it flouride that teas contain or flourine? What is the difference between the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hi other Lorri, I have been using Aquasana filters for years. I did tons of research before choosing them and they came highly recommended from health advocates I respect. I have the counter top version and the shower filter and am very pleased with both. http://www.aquasana.com/ Hope this helps Lorri in NH Lorri wrote: > > > I need to replace my filter and would like one a > little more effective than my Pur. I can't afford > a reverse osmosis unit but wondered if anyone has > an opinion about the other countertop units that > are available. I'm looking at the 80.00 - 100.00 > range. I'd love one that filters out fluoride > along with all the other stuff, any ideas or > opinions? > > Thanks, > > Lorri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hey there, How ya been? Thanks for the info, that's one I was looking at. Seattle Lorri _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lorri Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Water Filters Hi other Lorri, I have been using Aquasana filters for years. I did tons of research before choosing them and they came highly recommended from health advocates I respect. I have the counter top version and the shower filter and am very pleased with both. http://www.aquasana <http://www.aquasana.com/> ..com/ Hope this helps Lorri in NH Lorri wrote: > > > I need to replace my filter and would like one a > little more effective than my Pur. I can't afford > a reverse osmosis unit but wondered if anyone has > an opinion about the other countertop units that > are available. I'm looking at the 80.00 - 100.00 > range. I'd love one that filters out fluoride > along with all the other stuff, any ideas or > opinions? > > Thanks, > > Lorri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Lorri, This filter looks pretty good. About how long would the countertop one last? Thanks, Sherry > > > I need to replace my filter and would like one a > little more effective than my Pur. I can't afford > a reverse osmosis unit but wondered if anyone has > an opinion about the other countertop units that > are available. I'm looking at the 80.00 - 100.00 > range. I'd love one that filters out fluoride > along with all the other stuff, any ideas or > opinions? > > Thanks, > > Lorri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 HI Lori,   To my knowledge there isn't a filter out there that removes flouride other than an R.O. Personally I thought I could not afford an Ro unit too. But when push comes to shove I would rather have that than cable, a house phone and a dinner out once in a while. I have financed all types of things beforre...but nothing as important as clean safe water for my family. We got an RO unit from Steel Tec. I runs about $75.00 a month. I think it is a small price to pay for all it's  benefits, including peace of mind.  Regards,  Adrienne > > > I need to replace my filter and would like one a > little more effective than my Pur. I can't afford > a reverse osmosis unit but wondered if anyone has > an opinion about the other countertop units that > are available. I'm looking at the 80.00 - 100.00 > range. I'd love one that filters out fluoride > along with all the other stuff, any ideas or > opinions? > > Thanks, > > Lorri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 We use the New Enviro counter top 10 stage water filter www.newwaveenviro.com I do not know how it compares to Aquasana, I will have to check it out also. Always looking for a better mousetrap! Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I just emailed Aquasana to find out if they have any information regarding the difference between the New Enviro counter top unit and Aquasana's. I did notice they have a shower filter that is like the regular drinking water filter. Mmmmmmmmmm. This is interesting. If it takes out more than just chlorine, I will try the shower unit. Thanks, Lorri for bringing this up. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Just a little something to think about...that if the entire house water isn't being filtered than all the clothes and sheets we spend so much time in may be loaded down with chems. Or maybe we are all jumping through hoops for nothing, after all they may force vaccinate us very soon.  Regards,      A From: Diane and <sunflowr@...> Subject: Re:Water Filters Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 12:21 PM  I just emailed Aquasana to find out if they have any information regarding the difference between the New Enviro counter top unit and Aquasana's. I did notice they have a shower filter that is like the regular drinking water filter. Mmmmmmmmmm. This is interesting. If it takes out more than just chlorine, I will try the shower unit. Thanks, Lorri for bringing this up. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Why does it cost $75 a month? I bought a Watts Premier RO at Sam's Club about three years ago for under $250 and I only spend $30 twice a year for filters and they- generally send me a 10% coupon to help pay for the filters. ew Re: Water Filters Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:24:11 -0700 (PDT)  HI Lori,   To my knowledge there isn't a filter out there that removes flouride other than an R.O. Personally I thought I could not afford an Ro unit too. But when push comes to shove I would rather have that than cable, a house phone and a dinner out once in a while. I have financed all types of things beforre...but nothing as important as clean safe water for my family. We got an RO unit from Steel Tec. I runs about $75.00 a month. I think it is a small price to pay for all it's  benefits, including peace of mind.  Regards,  Adrienne > > > I need to replace my filter and would like one a > little more effective than my Pur. I can't afford > a reverse osmosis unit but wondered if anyone has > an opinion about the other countertop units that > are available. I'm looking at the 80.00 - 100.00 > range. I'd love one that filters out fluoride > along with all the other stuff, any ideas or > opinions? > > Thanks, > > Lorri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 It is unit that filters the entire house. The main unit is on the outside of the home  and then the RO at the sinks. After reseaching, finding out that chlorine and many of the other chemicals are harmful, in mnay cases even more harmful in steam form, I prefered to bath my family and wash our clothes in clean water....not to mention the beneifts of the garden water.  Regards,     A > > > I need to replace my filter and would like one a > little more effective than my Pur. I can't afford > a reverse osmosis unit but wondered if anyone has > an opinion about the other countertop units that > are available. I'm looking at the 80.00 - 100.00 > range. I'd love one that filters out fluoride > along with all the other stuff, any ideas or > opinions? > > Thanks, > > Lorri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Ernest, one more thing is that if there isn't a high quality pre filter then the RO unit gets clogged much quicker. We have a water test kit, the one test is a precipitation test, it pulls together the solids in water so one can see what is there. We have tested, for ourselves, water that claimed to be distilled and water that claimed to have been through RO and there had been lots of solids, still present. We test our RO water and it is pure. I highly recommend a test kit.    Regards,    Adrienne > > > I need to replace my filter and would like one a > little more effective than my Pur. I can't afford > a reverse osmosis unit but wondered if anyone has > an opinion about the other countertop units that > are available. I'm looking at the 80.00 - 100.00 > range. I'd love one that filters out fluoride > along with all the other stuff, any ideas or > opinions? > > Thanks, > > Lorri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I would love an entire house unit but live in apartment with limited space and that is not an option here. Lorri _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Adrienne o Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: Re: Re:Water Filters Just a little something to think about...that if the entire house water isn't being filtered than all the clothes and sheets we spend so much time in may be loaded down with chems. Or maybe we are all jumping through hoops for nothing, after all they may force vaccinate us very soon. Regards, A From: Diane and <sunflowrtheriver (DOT) <mailto:sunflowr%40theriver.com> com> Subject: Re:Water Filters @ <mailto:%40> Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 12:21 PM I just emailed Aquasana to find out if they have any information regarding the difference between the New Enviro counter top unit and Aquasana's. I did notice they have a shower filter that is like the regular drinking water filter. Mmmmmmmmmm. This is interesting. If it takes out more than just chlorine, I will try the shower unit. Thanks, Lorri for bringing this up. Diane [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Is anybody else not getting all the emails? I'm only noticing, because of the originals attached to the replies. I never got some of the originals! messing up again? Thia On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Adrienne o <artnuwa11@...>wrote: > > > Ernest, one more thing is that if there isn't a high quality pre filter > then the RO unit gets clogged much quicker. We have a water test kit, the > one test is a precipitation test, it pulls together the solids in water so > one can see what is there. We have tested, for ourselves, water that claimed > to be distilled and water that claimed to have been through RO and there had > been lots of solids, still present. We test our RO water and it is pure. I > highly recommend a test kit. > > > Regards, > > Adrienne > > > > > > > > I need to replace my filter and would like one a > > little more effective than my Pur. I can't afford > > a reverse osmosis unit but wondered if anyone has > > an opinion about the other countertop units that > > are available. I'm looking at the 80.00 - 100.00 > > range. I'd love one that filters out fluoride > > along with all the other stuff, any ideas or > > opinions? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Lorri > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I have noticed that I see answers to emails that I never saw the question for. ew Re: Water Filters Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:56:51 -0400 Â Is anybody else not getting all the emails? I'm only noticing, because of the originals attached to the replies. I never got some of the originals! messing up again? Thia On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Adrienne o <artnuwa11@...>wrote: > > > Ernest, one more thing is that if there isn't a high quality pre filter > then the RO unit gets clogged much quicker. We have a water test kit, the > one test is a precipitation test, it pulls together the solids in water so > one can see what is there. We have tested, for ourselves, water that claimed > to be distilled and water that claimed to have been through RO and there had > been lots of solids, still present. We test our RO water and it is pure. I > highly recommend a test kit. > > > Regards, > > Adrienne > > > > > > > > I need to replace my filter and would like one a > > little more effective than my Pur. I can't afford > > a reverse osmosis unit but wondered if anyone has > > an opinion about the other countertop units that > > are available. I'm looking at the 80.00 - 100.00 > > range. I'd love one that filters out fluoride > > along with all the other stuff, any ideas or > > opinions? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Lorri > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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