Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I don't think any of these systems are quality water filter systems............that remove chlorine, toxic metals, lead, cadmium, arsenic, petrochemical and on and on. That is what you need and those ARE EXTREMELY expensive Just use one at point of drinking water Showers and baths are a problem and maybe can hook up something for just that, but more of a problem Sheri PS - if you are on digest, please change the subject line to reflect what you are ansewring to thanks At 12:06 AM 09/25/2003 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 9/24/2003 7:41:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, >Vaccinations writes: > >> I think Rain Soft is very good, but expensive. You should find them in the >> yellow pages. >> > >I have a rainsoft water treatment system and let me tell you we have been to >court fighting these people to produce a working piece of equipment, we spent >a year in litigation before they replaced the system, it workd but regular >maint. includes replacing $95 filters at least once a year in order to maintain >the warranty. I'd check Sears and such, they have home treatment systems for >about 1/2 the price > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Hi Sheri, do you know the price range for a good whole house system ?? I really want to get rid of ALL (lead, arsenic, toxic metals, chlorine etc.) in the entire house ! Thanks Tatjana > .........that remove chlorine, toxic metals, lead, cadmium, > arsenic, petrochemical and on and on. > That is what you need and those ARE EXTREMELY expensive > Just use one at point of drinking water > Showers and baths are a problem and maybe can hook up something for just > that, but more of a problem > > Sheri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 At 09:34 AM 09/25/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Sheri, > >do you know the price range for a good whole house system ?? > >I really want to get rid of ALL (lead, arsenic, toxic metals, chlorine etc.) in the entire house ! > >Thanks > >Tatjana There may be one on multi-pure but they ARE HUGELY expensive - MASSIVE > > > >> .........that remove chlorine, toxic metals, lead, cadmium, >> arsenic, petrochemical and on and on. >> That is what you need and those ARE EXTREMELY expensive >> Just use one at point of drinking water >> Showers and baths are a problem and maybe can hook up something for just >> that, but more of a problem >> >> Sheri >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Thanks for the information! I really hope I can find a filter system but with a limit of $ 1000 that could be difficult. The only affordable system I can find is http://www.bestfilters.com/Water_Filters_Detail.asp?CatID=C Thanks again Tatjana Re: water filters >> > There may be one on multi-pure but they ARE HUGELY expensive - MASSIVE > > > > > > > > > >> .........that remove chlorine, toxic metals, lead, cadmium, > >> arsenic, petrochemical and on and on. > >> That is what you need and those ARE EXTREMELY expensive > >> Just use one at point of drinking water > >> Showers and baths are a problem and maybe can hook up something for just > >> that, but more of a problem > >> > >> Sheri > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 At 02:38 PM 09/25/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Thanks for the information! > > > I really hope I can find a filter system but with a limit of $ 1000 that could be difficult. > >The only affordable system I can find is > >http://www.bestfilters.com/Water_Filters_Detail.asp?CatID=C > > >Thanks again Pleae read the info that I wrote and sent so you know what makes a good filter system All the criteria and standards This one is " Filters Chlorine taste and odor, sediment, rust, and particulate matter for crstal-clear great tasting water at all faucets. " That's it! That is NOTHING Sheri >Tatjana > > > > > Re: water filters > > >>> >> There may be one on multi-pure but they ARE HUGELY expensive - MASSIVE >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> .........that remove chlorine, toxic metals, lead, cadmium, >> >> arsenic, petrochemical and on and on. >> >> That is what you need and those ARE EXTREMELY expensive >> >> Just use one at point of drinking water >> >> Showers and baths are a problem and maybe can hook up something for just >> >> that, but more of a problem >> >> >> >> Sheri >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Thr problem with Rerverse Osmosis water is that it wastes more water that it actually produces during production. I had a guy try to tell his system was different but that is simply not true. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Check out www.plumbingsupply.com, click on reverse osmosis. They have a nice FAQ section. ALL RO systems reject water, as much as 10 gallons of water is sent down the drain for every gallon produced. Plus, you should consider what your goal is as RO water may not be the " pure " water you think it is. I live in southern California where water is extremely hard as well as extremely expensive. I can't afford to have waste water ging down the drain. Also RO water removes minerals. Aside from caking on everything I don't see how the minerals are harmful. It's the other stuff I don't want. Having said that I have a countertop water distiller. Hope this helps. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 I must admit, reverse osmosis water seems to lack a certain life force. " O " water, a brand sold here, adds oxygen to the water and it feels better to me. I suppose one of the bottoms lines is to wash the sprouts with water that has the least toxins, so reverse water would work. As would the New Environs 10 Stage water filter, under or on the counter, which purifies out the toxins, leaves in the minerals, and is not reverse osmosis. Hope this helps, Oh what have we done to this earth and her waters. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 I googled Environs 10 stage water filter and got nothing????? Where are you located? Thanks Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Sorry, it is New Wave Enviro at http://www.newwaveenviro.com/ This is a new web site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Try the http://www.newwaveenviro.com/ website. The 10 stage filter is pretty easy to use,just pop it in the cartridge holder for the counter top. Probably is cheaper than a RO unit, but I do not know about the bacteria build up. I am not sure how to test for that, but maybe the website has some info. I do not mean to prejudice anyone against RO water, I just don't care for the taste so much, but maybe there is a way to oxygenate it somehow. maybe with a food grade aeratetor that they use in aquarium! MMMmmm . anyone have any ideas on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Could you send us the link on this one? Zoe We have a filter that has 2 filters in it - carbon filter for all the normal stuff and a special filter for flouride. We get it from CWR (Clear Water Revival). Lynda Hoheisel - tell him I sent you if you order one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I am a MultiPure Rep. I will offer my 30% discount to any member here. They have a reverse osmosis system, whole house and shower filter. You can check them out www.multipure.com. The Women's Cancer Resource Center (which is very involved in enviornmental issues) highly recommends these. Email me off list if interested. kaje62@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Hi Beverly. I live in Canada, so the same products may not be available in your neck of the woods. However, while you're doing your water filter research, this link may be helpful. http://www.waterfiltercomparisons.net/WaterFilter_Comparison.cfm Cheers. Tom P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Beverly, you might not have been around a couple of weeks ago when this exact topic came up (see the archived messages) but the bottom line is that I recommend you get a BID from our " RESIDENT WATER EXPERT " who goes by the name of POOL GUY (35 years in the water biz). Pool Guy owns Eco Smart and can set you up with a spiffy new point-of-entry water purification system that you can live with for a long, long time. Will Winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Give Poolguy a try, but he might be out of the country right now. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Christmas is coming up and I want to give my son and myself a countertop filter system like Brita. But wonder if there's a filter for that? If I go on a Brita site the sales department will make claims that may not be true. Anyone know for sure what to get for lead, chlorine and fluoride? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 The ones that purify using REVERSE OSMOSIS process but the water will be also free of most dissolved salts which are also needed for the body. > > > Christmas is coming up and I want to give my son and myself a > countertop filter system like Brita. But wonder if there's a filter for > that? If I go on a Brita site the sales department will make claims > that may not be true. > > Anyone know for sure what to get for lead, chlorine and fluoride? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 I hate to mention it, but there are no countertop filters than can get rid of fluoride, to the best of my knowledge. And most of the run-of- the-mill filters can only get rid of 50-80% of the chlorine. The free-standing, gravity-fed British Berkefeld unit with special PF- 4 filters can get rid of fluoride, chlorine, lead, arsenic, MTBC (a gasoline additive), pesticides, herbicides, and much else. The slow filtering rate is necessary to effectively detoxify water, almost an impossibility with water running at tap rates. The Berkefeld unit (Big Berkey or Imperial Berkey) can also filter out pathogens down to 0.9 microns. And the ceramic " candle " filter can be recycled; that is you can boil it so that it's internal activated carbon filter can continue to filter out chlorine. It's pricey, but it is the best. The Red Cross use it in the field in many countries where the water is no potable. And, yes, iodine can be used to purify water (need a plug for iodine in this list!). > > > Christmas is coming up and I want to give my son and myself a > countertop filter system like Brita. But wonder if there's a filter for > that? If I go on a Brita site the sales department will make claims > that may not be true. > > Anyone know for sure what to get for lead, chlorine and fluoride? > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 In addition to fluoride, another dangerous chemical in our water is perchlorate, which is also detrimental to the thyroid. Perchlorate is rocket fuel and it's being dumped into the water supply in many cities (it's in our LA water supply thanks to the Jet Propulsion Labs -- among others I'm sure). http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3094072 & page=1 Most reverse-osmosis systems remove both fluoride and perchlorate. We only drink and cook with RO water now (we buy it in huge jugs from a local store that sells water). We are saving to buy a RO system in the new year. Ann Marie For the love of cheese. And butter. And bacon... http://www.cheeseslave.com On Nov 15, 2008, at 8:59 AM, yburkett wrote: > I hate to mention it, but there are no countertop filters than can get > rid of fluoride, to the best of my knowledge. And most of the run-of- > the-mill filters can only get rid of 50-80% of the chlorine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Does it get rid of perchlorate? Do you have a source? I appreciate the advice. On Nov 15, 2008, at 8:59 AM, yburkett wrote: I hate to mention it, but there are no countertop filters than can get rid of fluoride, to the best of my knowledge. And most of the run-of- the-mill filters can only get rid of 50-80% of the chlorine. The free-standing, gravity-fed British Berkefeld unit with special PF- 4 filters can get rid of fluoride, chlorine, lead, arsenic, MTBC (a gasoline additive), pesticides, herbicides, and much else. Parashis artpages@... artpagesonline.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Hello , I checked http://www.countrylivinggrainmills.com/filter.html, and I couldn't find perchlorate listed. If I run across a filter that can handle perchlorate, I'll post it. Is there another chemical designation for perchlorate? Perhaps it goes under another name in the link I posted above - look under the black filters. > > I hate to mention it, but there are no countertop filters than can get > rid of fluoride, to the best of my knowledge. And most of the run- of- > the-mill filters can only get rid of 50-80% of the chlorine. > > The free-standing, gravity-fed British Berkefeld unit with special PF- > 4 filters can get rid of fluoride, chlorine, lead, arsenic, MTBC (a > gasoline additive), pesticides, herbicides, and much else. > > > > Parashis > artpages@... > > artpagesonline.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 So you won't damage your health using a RO system, you need to buffer the output as it is acidic (like distilled water), and needs to have healthy minerals added back into it. Calcium carbonate fits the bill for getting the pH back up, but you would also preferably like to add magnesium, zinc, and selenium, with a trace of copper. However, since there are already copper pipes in U.S. homes, that might not be necessary. A little baking soda (pH = 8.2) will also raise the pH to a healthy level of 7.5 - 7.6. > > > I hate to mention it, but there are no countertop filters than can get > > rid of fluoride, to the best of my knowledge. And most of the run-of- > > the-mill filters can only get rid of 50-80% of the chlorine. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Also you can have your water tested to see if there is perchlorate and fluoride. Not all municipalities have these things in their water. I know we have them in LA city water. Ann Marie For the love of cheese. And butter. And bacon... http://www.cheeseslave.com On Nov 15, 2008, at 10:42 AM, yburkett wrote: > Hello , > > I checked http://www.countrylivinggrainmills.com/filter.html, and I > couldn't find perchlorate listed. If I run across a filter that can > handle perchlorate, I'll post it. Is there another chemical > designation for perchlorate? Perhaps it goes under another name in > the link I posted above - look under the black filters. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 , thanks for the baking soda idea to the water. I already add the 1/4 t of seasalt to it but that is a good idea. I have an Alka Blue filter that can be done as counter top and is done by acid /alkalyzed. I bought the extra arsenic/flouride filter for it. It was spendy but the water tastes quite lovely. I don't live where there is likely to be jet fuel in the water. We had it plumbed into the water line by the kitchen sink and it works great. I like the taste of the water best as nuetral. Pam On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:49 AM, yburkett <yburkett@...> wrote: > So you won't damage your health using a RO system, you need to > buffer the output as it is acidic (like distilled water), and needs > to have healthy minerals added back into it. Calcium carbonate fits > the bill for getting the pH back up, but you would also preferably > like to add magnesium, zinc, and selenium, with a trace of copper. > However, since there are already copper pipes in U.S. homes, that > might not be necessary. A little baking soda (pH = 8.2) will also > raise the pH to a healthy level of 7.5 - 7.6. > > > > >> >> > I hate to mention it, but there are no countertop filters than > can get >> > rid of fluoride, to the best of my knowledge. And most of the > run-of- >> > the-mill filters can only get rid of 50-80% of the chlorine. >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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