Guest guest Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Bee, while doing some research, I came across Candex: http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Essence-Candex-Yeast-Management-System-120-Veggie-Caps\ /3218?at=1 It contains Cellulase, Hemicellulase, Amylase, Invertase, and Glucoamylase. It received many awesome reviews. Would this be okay to take? Thanks. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 > > Bee, while doing some research, I came across Candex: http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Essence-Candex-Yeast-Management-System-120-Veggie-Caps\ /3218?at=1 > > > It contains Cellulase, Hemicellulase, Amylase, Invertase, and Glucoamylase. It received many awesome reviews. Would this be okay to take? Thanks. >Tom @@ Hi Tom, Candex is a antifungal/cleansing product that has been mentioned, a few times in the past. Paraphrasing Bee, Candex is a cleanse and it is going to be very hard on you, since it dumps too many toxins at once into your system, causing more severe die-off symptoms than are necessary. It is better to cleanse your body the natural, slow way on the high " good " fats in the program, which even gets rid of heavy metals. Journey onwards, Ed group moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Thanks, Ed, but the description and many of the reviewers disagree with you. " Yeasts and fungi can flourish only as long as their cell walls remain intact. Studies show that the natural enzymes in Candex dissolve these cell walls. Candex works gently, causing no " die off " reaction and has no adverse impact on healthy probiotics. " I think I may give it a shot. I'll let everybody know if it helps or not. > > > > Bee, while doing some research, I came across Candex: http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Essence-Candex-Yeast-Management-System-120-Veggie-Caps\ /3218?at=1 > > > > > > It contains Cellulase, Hemicellulase, Amylase, Invertase, and Glucoamylase. It received many awesome reviews. Would this be okay to take? Thanks. > > >Tom > > @@ Hi Tom, > > Candex is a antifungal/cleansing product that has been mentioned, a few times in the past. > > Paraphrasing Bee, Candex is a cleanse and it is going to be very hard on you, since it dumps too many toxins at once into your system, causing more severe die-off symptoms than are necessary. > > It is better to cleanse your body the natural, slow way on > the high " good " fats in the program, which even gets rid of heavy metals. > > Journey onwards, > Ed > group moderator > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 In the early stages of candida treatment I used Candex for three months according to their instructions. It didn't do anything - no die-off symptoms but no improvement either. That was my experience with it. Zack moderator On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:03 AM, tomabbatiellojr <tomabbatiellojr@...>wrote: > > > Thanks, Ed, but the description and many of the reviewers disagree with > you. > > " Yeasts and fungi can flourish only as long as their cell walls remain > intact. Studies show that the natural enzymes in Candex dissolve these cell > walls. Candex works gently, causing no " die off " reaction and has no adverse > impact on healthy probiotics. " > > I think I may give it a shot. I'll let everybody know if it helps or not. > > > > > > > > > Bee, while doing some research, I came across Candex: > http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Essence-Candex-Yeast-Management-System-120-Veggie-Caps\ /3218?at=1 > > > > > > > > > It contains Cellulase, Hemicellulase, Amylase, Invertase, and > Glucoamylase. It received many awesome reviews. Would this be okay to take? > Thanks. > > > > >Tom > > > > @@ Hi Tom, > > > > Candex is a antifungal/cleansing product that has been mentioned, a few > times in the past. > > > > Paraphrasing Bee, Candex is a cleanse and it is going to be very hard on > you, since it dumps too many toxins at once into your system, causing more > severe die-off symptoms than are necessary. > > > > It is better to cleanse your body the natural, slow way on > > the high " good " fats in the program, which even gets rid of heavy metals. > > > > Journey onwards, > > Ed > > group moderator > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 > > Thanks, Ed, but the description and many of the reviewers disagree with you. > > " Yeasts and fungi can flourish only as long as their cell walls remain intact. Studies show that the natural enzymes in Candex dissolve these cell walls. Candex works gently, causing no " die off " reaction and has no adverse impact on healthy probiotics. " +++Hi Tom, I suggest you read my newly revised article " Die-Off Symptoms & Herxheimer Reactions " which debunks both of those terms: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php Next, read this, which is the revised version of my main candida article, but I'm still working on it so it is not finished and still has a lot of sections I'm working on: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/test/revisedintro2.php#s1 Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Tom, Ed I've tried Candex for a while, without noticeable problems or increase in symptoms. In fact, it relieved my die-off symptoms, although it was not sufficient to 'cure' candida. I think diet change is still the key for that. I now use it occasionally to reduce flare-ups of symptoms. Ruth > > @@ Hi Tom, > > Candex is a antifungal/cleansing product that has been mentioned, a few times in the past. > > Paraphrasing Bee, Candex is a cleanse and it is going to be very hard on you, since it dumps too many toxins at once into your system, causing more severe die-off symptoms than are necessary. > > It is better to cleanse your body the natural, slow way on > the high " good " fats in the program, which even gets rid of heavy metals. > > Journey onwards, > Ed > group moderator > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 > > Thanks, Ed, but the description and many of the reviewers disagree with you. > > " Yeasts and fungi can flourish only as long as their cell walls remain intact. Studies show that the natural enzymes in Candex dissolve these cell walls. Candex works gently, causing no " die off " reaction and has no adverse impact on healthy probiotics. " > > I think I may give it a shot. I'll let everybody know if it helps or not. > @@ Snip @@ Hi Tom, That's fine, if you want to give Candex a go and do let us know how it goes for you. I Apologize, for the confusion and not explaining myself clearly, beforehand. However, for your clarification,I would state the paraphrase of Bee's statement, I used, refers to Candex possibly dumping too many toxins in conjunction with the diet. Which I assume you are still continuing the diet program. Moreover, I have reviewed many people's claim's on Candex and the bottom line , nobody reports recovery from Candida using it. When, people add other treatments, combined, most people report die off symptoms too intense and discontinue. Some people like, Zack, report no effect following regular dosage and for the one's that up the dosage, again are met with die off symptoms too uncomfortable. Thus, they also stop Candex. Some also found Candida was just kept at bay with Candex, pending the severity of their Candida issue. Giving the impression, their Candida was cured they cease the Candex, only to discover once they indulged on forbidden foods, their Candida issue was very much alive. Tom, you can go on Curezone's Candida forums and hear people trying all sorts of treatments, alone or in combination. And still years, later, in a lot of cases, no further ahead. Candex and many others have been tried there and to no avail. A lot of people in their desperation, sometimes fail to realize or remember the following: The only way to cure candida: Candida cannot be cured by " killing it off " by antifungals or otherwise. Candida is only cured by building up the immune system, which is done by: 1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements), 2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and cancer), 3) Eliminating damaging foods, and 4) Eliminating toxins in general. When the immune system is strong enough it will automatically " make " candida (or any bug, cancer, etc.) change back into the organism it is supposed to be when the body is healthy. Lastly, more is not better in regards to treatments and unfortunately, there are no magic pills. Best in Health, Ed group moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Hi Ed, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole " die-off " no " die-off " theroy of the Candida Problem..... In your response to Tom...even though we've been told a million times by Bee that Candida cannot be killed off....that " Die-off " is an unfounded statement. You refer to people getting overwhelmed with " Die-off " symptoms using Candex? What do you mean? I am so confused on this site with the constant use of the word " Die-off " ....Which is it???? Why are people getting intense " Die-off " reactions from using Candex...if Candida does not " Die-off " ?.....you guy and girls....need to get your stories straight....it is very confusing trying to figure out what is really truthful? Gail..(Curlygirl) > > > > Thanks, Ed, but the description and many of the reviewers disagree with you. > > > > " Yeasts and fungi can flourish only as long as their cell walls remain intact. Studies show that the natural enzymes in Candex dissolve these cell walls. Candex works gently, causing no " die off " reaction and has no adverse impact on healthy probiotics. " > > > > I think I may give it a shot. I'll let everybody know if it helps or not. > > > > @@ Snip > > @@ Hi Tom, > > That's fine, if you want to give Candex a go and do let us know how it goes for you. > > I Apologize, for the confusion and not explaining myself clearly, beforehand. > > However, for your clarification,I would state the paraphrase of Bee's statement, I used, refers to Candex possibly dumping too many toxins in conjunction with the diet. Which I assume you are still continuing the diet program. > > Moreover, I have reviewed many people's claim's on Candex and the bottom line , nobody reports recovery from Candida using it. When, people add other treatments, combined, most people report die off symptoms too intense and discontinue. > > Some people like, Zack, report no effect following regular dosage and for the one's that up the dosage, again are met with die off symptoms too uncomfortable. Thus, they also stop Candex. Some also found Candida was just kept at bay with Candex, pending the severity of their Candida issue. Giving the impression, their Candida was cured they cease the Candex, only to discover once they indulged on forbidden foods, their Candida issue was very much alive. > > Tom, you can go on Curezone's Candida forums and hear people trying all sorts of treatments, alone or in combination. And still years, later, in a lot of cases, no further ahead. Candex and many others have been tried there and to no avail. > > A lot of people in their desperation, sometimes fail to realize or remember the following: > > The only way to cure candida: > > Candida cannot be cured by " killing it off " by antifungals or otherwise. Candida is only cured by building up the immune system, which is done by: > > 1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements), > 2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also > feed bacteria and cancer), > 3) Eliminating damaging foods, and > 4) Eliminating toxins in general. > > When the immune system is strong enough it will automatically " make " candida (or any bug, cancer, etc.) change back into the organism it is supposed to be when the body is healthy. > > Lastly, more is not better in regards to treatments and unfortunately, there are no magic pills. > > Best in Health, > Ed > group moderator > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Hi Zack, I'm asking you along with Ed....why did you use the term " Die-Off " Does Candida " Die-off " ?.........Simple answer...Yes or No....no one would every know which it really is from this site and the moderators and the articles........so very, very, confusing...Gail.(Curlygirl) > > > > > > > > Bee, while doing some research, I came across Candex: > > http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Essence-Candex-Yeast-Management-System-120-Veggie-Caps\ /3218?at=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > It contains Cellulase, Hemicellulase, Amylase, Invertase, and > > Glucoamylase. It received many awesome reviews. Would this be okay to take? > > Thanks. > > > > > > >Tom > > > > > > @@ Hi Tom, > > > > > > Candex is a antifungal/cleansing product that has been mentioned, a few > > times in the past. > > > > > > Paraphrasing Bee, Candex is a cleanse and it is going to be very hard on > > you, since it dumps too many toxins at once into your system, causing more > > severe die-off symptoms than are necessary. > > > > > > It is better to cleanse your body the natural, slow way on > > > the high " good " fats in the program, which even gets rid of heavy metals. > > > > > > Journey onwards, > > > Ed > > > group moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Dear Gail, Please read the article that explains why the term " die-off " shouldn't be used, since I don't believe you'd be writing to Ed and Zack if you did. The term " die-off " has been used with regards to candida forever, and it takes time to switch over to writing " healing and detoxifying symptoms and reactions " instead. Bee > > > > > > Thanks, Ed, but the description and many of the reviewers disagree with you. > > > > > > " Yeasts and fungi can flourish only as long as their cell walls remain intact. Studies show that the natural enzymes in Candex dissolve these cell walls. Candex works gently, causing no " die off " reaction and has no adverse impact on healthy probiotics. " > > > > > > I think I may give it a shot. I'll let everybody know if it helps or not. > > > > > > > @@ Snip > > > > @@ Hi Tom, > > > > That's fine, if you want to give Candex a go and do let us know how it goes for you. > > > > I Apologize, for the confusion and not explaining myself clearly, beforehand. > > > > However, for your clarification,I would state the paraphrase of Bee's statement, I used, refers to Candex possibly dumping too many toxins in conjunction with the diet. Which I assume you are still continuing the diet program. > > > > Moreover, I have reviewed many people's claim's on Candex and the bottom line , nobody reports recovery from Candida using it. When, people add other treatments, combined, most people report die off symptoms too intense and discontinue. > > > > Some people like, Zack, report no effect following regular dosage and for the one's that up the dosage, again are met with die off symptoms too uncomfortable. Thus, they also stop Candex. Some also found Candida was just kept at bay with Candex, pending the severity of their Candida issue. Giving the impression, their Candida was cured they cease the Candex, only to discover once they indulged on forbidden foods, their Candida issue was very much alive. > > > > Tom, you can go on Curezone's Candida forums and hear people trying all sorts of treatments, alone or in combination. And still years, later, in a lot of cases, no further ahead. Candex and many others have been tried there and to no avail. > > > > A lot of people in their desperation, sometimes fail to realize or remember the following: > > > > The only way to cure candida: > > > > Candida cannot be cured by " killing it off " by antifungals or otherwise. Candida is only cured by building up the immune system, which is done by: > > > > 1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements), > > 2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also > > feed bacteria and cancer), > > 3) Eliminating damaging foods, and > > 4) Eliminating toxins in general. > > > > When the immune system is strong enough it will automatically " make " candida (or any bug, cancer, etc.) change back into the organism it is supposed to be when the body is healthy. > > > > Lastly, more is not better in regards to treatments and unfortunately, there are no magic pills. > > > > Best in Health, > > Ed > > group moderator > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'd be careful ... I have tried this stuff and it makes for horrible cramps ... even a fourth of a capsule full, and I think that they recommend taking two at a time. It's expensive, and not worth the pain in my opinion. -- > > > > Candex brand is recommended because it causes no die-off symptoms.....It > was a product recommended by my holistic nutritionist originally and I > really liked it, helped me a lot at the time I used it..... > > Blessings, Margaret > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 > > Tom, Ed > I've tried Candex for a while, without noticeable problems or increase in symptoms. In fact, it relieved my die-off symptoms, although it was not sufficient to 'cure' candida. I think diet change is still the key for that. I now use it occasionally to reduce flare-ups of symptoms. > Ruth > > @@ Snip @@ Hi Ruth, Thank you for sharing your experience with Candex. It is always great for everyone to hear others experiences. Sometimes we learn from each other. Insofar of all the comments/posts, including yours on Candex, proves my statement of it not curing Candida, still stands. Nor do I expect it will change. Moreover, in regards to symptoms, I also revised and stated symptom relief will fluctuate, which has also been demonstrated throughout all the posts insofar. Symptom relief & experience will vary among people, depending on the extent of their Candida issue. Again, like all antifungals/clenses its not the solution. At best, its a bandaid of comfort for some. Antifungals can be useful, they're just NOT the complete solution i.e garlic ... minus the price tag ;-) Thanks again Ruth. Questions & Experiences are always welcome. With Appreciation, Ed group moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Well, I've been taking the Candex for about a week and so far I haven't seen much difference. However, I'm sure it's too early to tell. I have been experiencing mild headaches and a lot of fatigue. It takes me along time just to get out of bed. Hopefully, that means it's working. > > > > > > > > Candex brand is recommended because it causes no die-off symptoms.....It > > was a product recommended by my holistic nutritionist originally and I > > really liked it, helped me a lot at the time I used it..... > > > > Blessings, Margaret > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 > > Well, I've been taking the Candex for about a week and so far I haven't seen much difference. However, I'm sure it's too early to tell. I have been experiencing mild headaches and a lot of fatigue. It takes me along time just to get out of bed. Hopefully, that means it's working. +++Hi Tom, I can definitely state that Candex is not helping you. The most important things for getting healthy are just this program, which includes: 1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements), 2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and cancer), 3) Eliminating damaging foods, and 4) Eliminating toxins in general. When the immune system is strong enough it will automatically " make " candida (or any bug, cancer, etc.) change back into the organism it is supposed to be when the body is healthy. It's like the manure pile and the flies, with the manure pile representing the poor condition of the body. You cannot get rid of the manure pile by killing off the flies. You must clean up the manure pile instead, which means building up your immune system. Also taking other supplements, herbs or spices, or even too many treatments overwhelms our bodies so they can actually stop and/or slow the healing processes. So K.I.S.S., which stands for Keep It Simple Sweetie! Just do this program and nothing else and Nature will look after you. God didn't make any stupid bodies, and the proper combination of nutrients are most important, along with the other things in the other 3 points above. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Well, I'm still continuing the diet and supplements. I'm going to continue with the Candex as I feel like I'm having a lot of " die off. " > > > > Well, I've been taking the Candex for about a week and so far I haven't seen much difference. However, I'm sure it's too early to tell. I have been experiencing mild headaches and a lot of fatigue. It takes me along time just to get out of bed. Hopefully, that means it's working. > > +++Hi Tom, > > I can definitely state that Candex is not helping you. The most important things for getting healthy are just this program, which includes: > 1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements), > 2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and cancer), > 3) Eliminating damaging foods, and > 4) Eliminating toxins in general. > > When the immune system is strong enough it will automatically " make " candida (or any bug, cancer, etc.) change back into the organism it is supposed to be when the body is healthy. > > It's like the manure pile and the flies, with the manure pile representing the poor condition of the body. You cannot get rid of the manure pile by killing off the flies. You must clean up the manure pile instead, which means building up your immune system. > > Also taking other supplements, herbs or spices, or even too many treatments overwhelms our bodies so they can actually stop and/or slow the healing processes. > > So K.I.S.S., which stands for Keep It Simple Sweetie! Just do this program and nothing else and Nature will look after you. God didn't make any stupid bodies, and the proper combination of nutrients are most important, along with the other things in the other 3 points above. > > All the best, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 > > Well, I'm still continuing the diet and supplements. I'm going to continue with the Candex as I feel like I'm having a lot of " die off. " +++Hi Tom, First of all " die-off " is a fabricated term that the medicos dreamed up in order to justify the use of antibiotics, which isn't applicable to getting healthy as explained in this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php In fact all dis-ease processes are exactly the same as the healing and detoxifying processes that are created by the body itself in an effort to maintain its health. The only difference for people on this healthy program is they are now progressing towards health rather than becoming more and more unhealthy, or dis-eased, because they are giving their body what it needs to " be healthy " according to Nature's Laws on Health. The medical field labels each and every " sign " of poor health as separate dis-eases, illnesses, symptoms, etc. However all of them are simply " signs " the body is working hard at maintaining its health in spite of poor nutrition, toxins, etc., so all of those " signs " are actually normal body reactions. When taking drugs, like antibiotics, which are toxic/poisonous, the body reacts by creating detoxifying symptoms in order to get rid of them and/or minimize their effect on the body. This is called " inflammation " as explained in my article about it. I cannot access it right now, but do a search on my website for it: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/ All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Thanks, Bee, but Candex is not an antibiotic. It's a group of enzymes. > > > > Well, I'm still continuing the diet and supplements. I'm going to continue with the Candex as I feel like I'm having a lot of " die off. " > > +++Hi Tom, > > First of all " die-off " is a fabricated term that the medicos dreamed up in order to justify the use of antibiotics, which isn't applicable to getting healthy as explained in this article: > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php > > In fact all dis-ease processes are exactly the same as the healing and detoxifying processes that are created by the body itself in an effort to maintain its health. > > The only difference for people on this healthy program is they are now progressing towards health rather than becoming more and more unhealthy, or dis-eased, because they are giving their body what it needs to " be healthy " according to Nature's Laws on Health. > > The medical field labels each and every " sign " of poor health as separate dis-eases, illnesses, symptoms, etc. However all of them are simply " signs " the body is working hard at maintaining its health in spite of poor nutrition, toxins, etc., so all of those " signs " are actually normal body reactions. > > When taking drugs, like antibiotics, which are toxic/poisonous, the body reacts by creating detoxifying symptoms in order to get rid of them and/or minimize their effect on the body. This is called " inflammation " as explained in my article about it. I cannot access it right now, but do a search on my website for it: > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/ > > All the best, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 > > Thanks, Bee, but Candex is not an antibiotic. It's a group of enzymes. +++Hi Tom, Yes, I know that. I was addressing your use of the term " die-off. " As far as Candex is concerned your body will digest it just like it does any other carbs, and it is high in fibers, which we know are damaging to our bodies. Therefore your body will " have to " create bacteria in the large colon in order to break down the fibers in Candex, which are the cells walls of all carbs/plant foods. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I have used Candex b4 too to get rid of candida, but I'm going to try olive leaf and maybe MMS. Does anyone know where to buy it? Thanks, On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:  mentioned a product called 'Candex'; it looks interesting. I was thinking of buying some & sending it to my mother (it is much cheaper US side of the pond). What do you think of the product? RegardsKrys-- I keep six honest serving-men  (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When  And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 ,You can purchase MMS at H2O Air Water Americas - I activate it with lemon juice, so I did not buy the citrus through them. I have never had candida, but MMS removes fungus, parasites and a multitude of pathogens. My mother is allergic to sulfa and antibiotics, so this is a better alternative. You can bathe in it too.http://www.h2oairwateramericas.com/ mentioned a product called 'Candex'; it looks interesting. I was thinking of buying some & sending it to my mother (it is much cheaper US side of the pond). What do you think of the product? RegardsKrys-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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