Guest guest Posted June 7, 2000 Report Share Posted June 7, 2000 Hi Tommy - I looked at this site but couldn't see a calculator. Tell me where to point my mouse please! Leaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2000 Report Share Posted June 8, 2000 Cheers Tommy. Leaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 In a message dated 2/8/01 3:38:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, " Axel" < BfLForce@...> writes: If you are suspicious that your results were inaccurate, getting your body fat % measured another way - and I mention some in that post - might be a good idea. Nah, I'm not suspicious about it. I know the instrument was fully calibrated, and I know the pitfalls. This wasn't a Tanita scale. I had similar results a while back when I first had it checked. I just wonder at my own body (something that made all my surgeons marvel), how it functions, how people make such incredible generalizations about weight. Consider that most weight tables would put just my lean body mass as ideal, when with even the most modest amount of fat added, but almost have me overweight (by their determination.) 147 lbs for a 5'6" woman is interesting. I know many women at that weight that want to lose weight, just because of the number itself. It makes me think about all those patients that get to the doctor's office, and have such anxiety attacks about being weighed, and what I can do to change things. Yanno? a "When there is a hill to climb, don't think that waiting will make it smaller." -- Unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 Hi a! In post 16464, " Re: Getting Started, " I include some comments about bio-electrical impedance as a method for measuring body fat. You might want to read that post, because it may offer some insight regarding the accuracy of your test. I definitely know of people who've had odd results from that method, and I offer some quotes from an article I read recently on that subject that might help explain why. If you are suspicious that your results were inaccurate, getting your body fat % measured another way - and I mention some in that post - might be a good idea. I hope that helps! Energetically, --- FMBC: Fitness and the Mind-Body Connection an unofficial Transformation Support site and " on ramp " for Body-for-LIFE by Cherita and Axel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 Hi a! I understand exactly what you mean. You are absolutely right that people practically have anxiety attacks about weight - when in fact, weight alone says so little! You're also right that individuals differ in ways that are utterly relevant to health - and it's a shame that so often, people will make the mistake of assuming that their " numbers " need to match someone else's. I misunderstood what you were saying in your first post. Sorry about that. I believe I understand you quite well now, though! Energetically, --- FMBC: Fitness and the Mind-Body Connection an unofficial Transformation Support site and " on ramp " for Body-for-LIFE by Cherita and Axel http://fitmind.home.mindspring.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 I didn't have any either and got some free ones offered along with a Netrition order just in case you ever order from them. They have this place on their website where you can enter your data obtained from the calipers and it will approximate your bodyfat. Don't accept any of it as gospel since it is only an estimation. You will just know kind of what bodyfat ballpark you're in. Stasia > Where can I get my body fat done? My gym does not have personal > trainers (!!) and my doctor doesn't do it. Or should I just get my > own calipers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 I'm told the calipers are the best if you can handle them. I couldn't. :-( So I went and bought a Tanita scale which I dont think is the best. Others have suggested an Omron which I am sorry I didn't buy. There. Understand? lol Rita body fat Where can I get my body fat done? My gym does not have personal trainers (!!) and my doctor doesn't do it. Or should I just get my own calipers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 It is hard to give someone a number to shoot for. You just have to make sure to get to the point where you and your mirror agree as to how you want to look. You might be completely happy at 15% and can maintain from there. Or you might want to drop on down to 13%. It depends on what your mirror(and your swimsuit) says. Once you reach your desired bodyfat(or lack of) it is going to require the same effort to maintain as it did to lose in the first place. If you have to have a goal number, go for 15% and see how you look. If you can stand not weighing every day, don't. It's like watching grass grow. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 It is hard to give someone a number to shoot for. You just have to make sure to get to the point where you and your mirror agree as to how you want to look. You might be completely happy at 15% and can maintain from there. Or you might want to drop on down to 13%. It depends on what your mirror(and your swimsuit) says. Once you reach your desired bodyfat(or lack of) it is going to require the same effort to maintain as it did to lose in the first place. If you have to have a goal number, go for 15% and see how you look. If you can stand not weighing every day, don't. It's like watching grass grow. Stasia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Hi Noelle - I went on biofitness but couldn't find how to do the bf calculation - do you have to buy the program in order to do that? Thanx. Rita Body Fat Yesterday I asked about the Tanita body fat scales. This morning I measured and did the body fat calculator on biofitness.com. SUPRISINGLY my body fat calcuated at 20.1%. Which to some of you is still high, I am sure. I thought it would be much higher than that given the belly fat etc. Anyway, now my question is what is the right percentage I should shoot for? I mean, I know how I want my body to look. I want to be tight and toned. BUT, should I aim for 13 %, 15 % what? For the first time in my life, after 15 years of yo-yo dieting, crash diets, diet pills, you name it, I was not disapointed this morning when I steped on the scale and saw that I had not lost any weight. I have to say it was most liberating. I know I am still going to weigh, pretty much every day but I know that I am not going to feel the disapointment and guilt associated with not seeing the pounds decrease. This has to the best! Noelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Thank you so much Shonda! Body Fat > > > Yesterday I asked about the Tanita body fat scales. > This morning I measured and did the body fat calculator on > biofitness.com. SUPRISINGLY my body fat calcuated at 20.1%. Which > to some of you is still high, I am sure. I thought it would be much > higher than that given the belly fat etc. Anyway, now my question is > what is the right percentage I should shoot for? > I mean, I know how I want my body to look. I want to be tight and > toned. BUT, should I aim for 13 %, 15 % what? > For the first time in my life, after 15 years of yo-yo dieting, crash > diets, diet pills, you name it, I was not disapointed this morning > when I steped on the scale and saw that I had not lost any weight. I > have to say it was most liberating. I know I am still going to > weigh, pretty much every day but I know that I am not going to feel > the disapointment and guilt associated with not seeing the pounds > decrease. This has to the best! > Noelle > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 No problem:) > > Hi Noelle - I went on biofitness but couldn't find how to do the bf > calculation - do you have to buy the program in order to do that? > > Thanx. > > Rita > > Body Fat > > > > > > Yesterday I asked about the Tanita body fat scales. > > This morning I measured and did the body fat calculator on > > biofitness.com. SUPRISINGLY my body fat calcuated at 20.1%. > Which > > to some of you is still high, I am sure. I thought it would be > much > > higher than that given the belly fat etc. Anyway, now my > question is > > what is the right percentage I should shoot for? > > I mean, I know how I want my body to look. I want to be tight and > > toned. BUT, should I aim for 13 %, 15 % what? > > For the first time in my life, after 15 years of yo-yo dieting, > crash > > diets, diet pills, you name it, I was not disapointed this > morning > > when I steped on the scale and saw that I had not lost any > weight. I > > have to say it was most liberating. I know I am still going to > > weigh, pretty much every day but I know that I am not going to > feel > > the disapointment and guilt associated with not seeing the pounds > > decrease. This has to the best! > > Noelle > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 lol ... I am waiting with baited breath. Rita Re: Body Fat OK - being the skeptic that I am, I was ready to go w/ all guns loaded and pointed when I saw this " online bodyt fat calculator. " I entered my measurements (or, at least, what I think are my measurements), and was very surprised to see how close it was to the Omron! HOWEVER, I still do nto trust it. This was one set of measurements, one time. Since I have been on BFL for over 2 years, I have lots of measurements stored on my PC at home. I conduct the grand experiemetn this weekend - entering my info for the past 2 years to see how this site comepares with my omron readings over the past 2 years........ stay tuned... Jill > > Hi Noelle - I went on biofitness but couldn't find how to do the bf > calculation - do you have to buy the program in order to do that? > > Thanx. > > Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 hersheione wrote: > Yesterday I asked about the Tanita body fat scales. > This morning I measured and did the body fat calculator on > biofitness.com. SUPRISINGLY my body fat calcuated at 20.1%. Which > to some of you is still high, I am sure. I thought it would be much > higher than that given the belly fat etc. Anyway, now my question is > what is the right percentage I should shoot for? > I mean, I know how I want my body to look. I want to be tight and > toned. BUT, should I aim for 13 %, 15 % what? > For the first time in my life, after 15 years of yo-yo dieting, crash > diets, diet pills, you name it, I was not disapointed this morning > when I steped on the scale and saw that I had not lost any weight. I > have to say it was most liberating. I know I am still going to > weigh, pretty much every day but I know that I am not going to feel > the disapointment and guilt associated with not seeing the pounds > decrease. This has to the best! > Noelle 20% is my goal. Serenity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 lol Re: Body Fat The bio site puts me at 26-27% bodyfat. My handheld omron has me at 35-36%. Dont knwo which one is more correct, but for the sake of my sanity, I like the bio one:) Shonda > > > Hi Noelle - I went on biofitness but couldn't find how to do the > bf > > calculation - do you have to buy the program in order to do that? > > > Thanx. > > > Rita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 I can't wait for the results of your experiment! Sounds like the kind of nutty thing I'd do! Re: Body Fat OK - being the skeptic that I am, I was ready to go w/ all guns loaded and pointed when I saw this " online bodyt fat calculator. " I entered my measurements (or, at least, what I think are my measurements), and was very surprised to see how close it was to the Omron! HOWEVER, I still do nto trust it. This was one set of measurements, one time. Since I have been on BFL for over 2 years, I have lots of measurements stored on my PC at home. I conduct the grand experiemetn this weekend - entering my info for the past 2 years to see how this site comepares with my omron readings over the past 2 years........ stay tuned... Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 You do something nutty? Nope, cant imagine that. LOL > I can't wait for the results of your experiment! Sounds like the kind of nutty > thing I'd do! > > > > Re: Body Fat > > > OK - being the skeptic that I am, I was ready to go w/ all guns > loaded and pointed when I saw this " online bodyt fat calculator. " I > entered my measurements (or, at least, what I think are my > measurements), and was very surprised to see how close it was to the > Omron! > > HOWEVER, I still do nto trust it. This was one set of measurements, > one time. Since I have been on BFL for over 2 years, I have lots of > measurements stored on my PC at home. I conduct the grand > experiemetn this weekend - entering my info for the past 2 years to > see how this site comepares with my omron readings over the past 2 > years........ stay tuned... > > Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Only, you would take a picture of the omron with yout results and post it on your website! :-)~ Actually - this makes all the sense in the world - before I risk putting my foot in my mouth, I want to get the facts straight. Nothing like using yourself as a human guinea pig. ;-) Jill *** My first scientific experiment was when I was 3. I was feeding bananas to my younger sister to see if she would turn into a monkey! > I can't wait for the results of your experiment! Sounds like the kind of nutty > thing I'd do! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 > I don't have any kind of home tool to measure with. I plan on > getting callipers next month. But for now, I just had to see what > kind of starting point to be at. BOTTOM line is I know I want this > gut gone and my butt tight and toned. > What is the handheld version like and what is the cost on it? > Thanks, > Noellecheck their website: www.omron.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 I can see why Jill and I may come to blows at times...we're orthoexic!!! Or have some other disorder that hasn't been named yet. I would totally do the same thang...now, if I can only learn to measure accurately!!! Astra > I can't wait for the results of your experiment! Sounds like the kind of nutty > thing I'd do! > > > > Re: Body Fat > > > OK - being the skeptic that I am, I was ready to go w/ all guns > loaded and pointed when I saw this " online bodyt fat calculator. " I > entered my measurements (or, at least, what I think are my > measurements), and was very surprised to see how close it was to the > Omron! > > HOWEVER, I still do nto trust it. This was one set of measurements, > one time. Since I have been on BFL for over 2 years, I have lots of > measurements stored on my PC at home. I conduct the grand > experiemetn this weekend - entering my info for the past 2 years to > see how this site comepares with my omron readings over the past 2 > years........ stay tuned... > > Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 I personally have no desire to get down that low. 20% is my goal. That is not only healthy, but compartively easy to maintain (from what I hear - I don't think I was ever that low.) With my current lean mass (136) I know I would look pretty darn good at 20% BF. (I am guessing that would put me at about size 8 give or take a size or 2). If I get there and decide that I need to be lower, then I will cross that bridge when I get to it. Those who are down to 12% or less only stay that way for a short time (as in before a competition), and go higher during the rest of the time. I cannot imagine the great deal of work with having to go that low each time you " compete " - not to mention that the up and down's are probably not good for you either..... Jill > I have a question for you all about body fat. I was looking through the new > BFL journal and quite a few of the women are claiming body fat at12% or > lower. Some of them I believe, some of them, I don't. But that isn't the > point. What is the point? Does everyone realize that we (women) are supposed > to have our bodyfat between 20 and 25% to be healthy? And if you go under 17% > it will start really wreaking havoc with your body? If you get down under 13% > you can seriously compromise your body. > > Now I do understand that some of these " body fat goals " were reached for the > comptiton, but could they be promoting something that could be very > unhealthy? > > Ana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 17% is actually very healthy for an active woman. As long as you get there in a healthy way (strength training and healthy eating, not a starvation diet and hours of cardio) most women won't have a problem with estrogen levels and menstrual irregularities unless they're well below 12%. That's why bodybuilders and fitness competitors tend to only drop into the single digits for a few weeks of competition and then they come back up into the low or mid-teens to maintain. The average American woman is 33% body fat. The most often cited healthy range for women is 20-25%. Professional (women) skiers and swimmers and softball players tend to be around 18-22%. Distance runners are usually around 17-19%. Professional aerobics instructors and fitness competitors in the off season tend to be around 14-17%. Fitness and figure competitors go onstage in the 9-13% range. Olympic gymnasts and ballerinas tend to be around 10%. Female bodybuilders are always in the single digits for competition. If you've ever seen pictures of Pam Brown with her trophy, she was 6% in that photo. Wait... here it is: http://www.bodychangers.com/pbrown_inter.shtml I like to be around 14-16%. That's where I am in most of my photos. It's lean but it's maintainable without doing anything stupid. I've been below 20% for years and I'm in excellent health. If you've ever checked out my What I Eat page, I'm hardly starving myself or doing anything unhealthy to keep a low percentage. In fact, most of time I'm carrying around a giant cooler of food that would make Jethro Bodine envious. :-) Where you set your final goal is a very personal thing. If you're looking for general good health, a small pant size, and easy maintenance, 20-25% might be an excellent goal. If you want a lean, athletic look with good muscle definition and nothing jiggling in a bikini, you have to go lower. Most people don't know what their final percentage will be until they get there and live at that weight for a while. If you have to eat too little and train too hard to maintain it, you'll be unhappy and won't stay there very long. It's kind of self-regulating in that regard. Nobody's going to drop their body fat dangerously low and not realize it. If you go to the Files section of the club, I put a Fat Loss / Muscle Gain calculator in there (Microsoft Excel). It helps you figure out how many pounds of fat you would need to lose and how much muscle you would need to gain to hit a particular percentage and weight. It can help you decide if your goals are realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Yikes!! That's scary! According to that I've lost 40 pounds of fat while losing 11 pounds of muscle! I feel so much stronger now- I know I'm stronger actually. I could have sworn that I'd have gained muscle! I must be doing something wrong. > 17% is actually very healthy for an active woman. As long as you get there in a > healthy way (strength training and healthy eating, not a starvation diet and > hours of cardio) most women won't have a problem with estrogen levels and > menstrual irregularities unless they're well below 12%. That's why bodybuilders > and fitness competitors tend to only drop into the single digits for a few weeks > of competition and then they come back up into the low or mid-teens to maintain. > > The average American woman is 33% body fat. The most often cited healthy range > for women is 20-25%. Professional (women) skiers and swimmers and softball > players tend to be around 18-22%. Distance runners are usually around 17-19%. > Professional aerobics instructors and fitness competitors in the off season tend > to be around 14-17%. Fitness and figure competitors go onstage in the 9-13% > range. Olympic gymnasts and ballerinas tend to be around 10%. Female > bodybuilders are always in the single digits for competition. If you've ever > seen pictures of Pam Brown with her trophy, she was 6% in that photo. Wait... > here it is: http://www.bodychangers.com/pbrown_inter.shtml > > I like to be around 14-16%. That's where I am in most of my photos. It's lean > but it's maintainable without doing anything stupid. I've been below 20% for > years and I'm in excellent health. If you've ever checked out my What I Eat > page, I'm hardly starving myself or doing anything unhealthy to keep a low > percentage. In fact, most of time I'm carrying around a giant cooler of food > that would make Jethro Bodine envious. :-) > > Where you set your final goal is a very personal thing. If you're looking for > general good health, a small pant size, and easy maintenance, 20- 25% might be an > excellent goal. If you want a lean, athletic look with good muscle definition > and nothing jiggling in a bikini, you have to go lower. Most people don't know > what their final percentage will be until they get there and live at that weight > for a while. If you have to eat too little and train too hard to maintain it, > you'll be unhappy and won't stay there very long. It's kind of self- regulating > in that regard. Nobody's going to drop their body fat dangerously low and not > realize it. > > If you go to the Files section of the club, I put a Fat Loss / Muscle Gain > calculator in there (Microsoft Excel). It helps you figure out how many pounds > of fat you would need to lose and how much muscle you would need to gain to hit > a particular percentage and weight. It can help you decide if your goals are > realistic. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 > > The average American woman is 33% body fat. The most often cited healthy range > for women is 20-25%. Professional (women) skiers and swimmers and softball > players tend to be around 18-22%. Distance runners are usually around 17-19%. > Professional aerobics instructors and fitness competitors in the ...> Hey - Funny you should mention that...... I kinda set my goals to be on par with the USA Women's National Ice Hockey team. I looked at the media guide to see what the average weight was for the players who are 5'4 " - 5'5 " . The avg weight is 143, with the range from 130-158 (and 2 players at 155.) I assume that these players are in pretty good shape. If the player who is 155 has a BF of 20%, her lean mass is 124. (I am currently 136). If get to 20% and keep my lean mass, I would weigh 170. (and have 12 pounds more lean mass than this elite athlete.) Not bad. If she is 15%, her lean mass is 132, and I am only a " bit " chunkier than this elite athlete. Still not bad. Going on the assumption that the women skiers and hockey players are similar in body structure, the 20% rule is more likely. I'm not sure if this is a fair assumption - but I ski and play hockey - and both use similar muscles (this is where I get my assumption.) Actually - I Just went to the ski team website - of the skiers 5'4 and 5'5 - they weight 140, 140, and 137, respectively. If they are 20% BF, this puts their LEAN mass at 111. I would have 25 pounds MORE LEAN MASS than these elite athletes. Imagine how I could kick their butts on the slopes!! =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Lean mass is anything that's not fat - including water, bones, skin, internal organs. There's no way you lost 11 pounds of muscle. It was probably just water weight. Re: Body Fat Yikes!! That's scary! According to that I've lost 40 pounds of fat while losing 11 pounds of muscle! I feel so much stronger now- I know I'm stronger actually. I could have sworn that I'd have gained muscle! I must be doing something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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