Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 Finally, someone else with this symptom!! I have the same problem. Does her nose get dry as well? I get this problem where my nose gets really dry and I can't smell very good sometimes. I don't get colds, runny nose, or cough or anything like that. JL April L Tyree wrote: > > From: April L Tyree <tyree.pines@...> > > was mentioning this evening that she can't smell much. I remember > she mentioned the same thing over a year ago, even though in neither case > did she have a cold (hasn't gotten one in a very long time). Is this yet > another symptom related to CFS? > > April > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Grow your list the most and receive a $5000 donation > to the charity of your choice. > > See our homepage for details on our new ONEreach incentive programs. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 In a message dated 4/28/99 11:10:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, theocean@... writes: > I have the same problem. > Does her nose get dry as well? I get this problem where my nose gets > really dry and I can't smell very good sometimes. I don't get colds, > runny nose, or cough or anything like that. JL Hello...... All the above is the same with me except I get a cough, tickle type, not allerygs, ? right in the throat, usually when I am feeling wiped fatigued , I think, maybe dry also. I just use a water soaked kleenex for my nostrils, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 1999 Report Share Posted April 29, 1999 April, I'm not sure if this is part of CFIDS, but my daughter has the opposite problem. She has hyperactive smelling ability and her doctor felt it was part of the central nervous system's problem pertaining to senses. Not being able to smell could be the same thing. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 1999 Report Share Posted April 29, 1999 Message text written by INTERNET:onelist >April, I'm not sure if this is part of CFIDS, but my daughter has the opposite problem. She has hyperactive smelling ability and her doctor felt it was part of the central nervous system's problem pertaining to senses. Not being able to smell could be the same thing. Gail < That's interesting because I can tell what someone had for lunch two hours after the food was gone from their office. I can also smell food at a restaurant and replicate it at home. This is not a happy thing when the litter box needs changing, tho!! Christa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 1999 Report Share Posted April 29, 1999 In a message dated 4/29/99 12:19:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TCraig1@... writes: << This is not a happy thing when the litter box needs changing, tho!! >> No, Chistie, this isn't great, but someone who lacks smelling acutely often overlooks the litter box, which isn't any better for visitors!!! Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 1999 Report Share Posted April 29, 1999 Some days I can smell a bug pooter from the next state....other times I can't smell anything at all. I heard it is something to do with the brain malfunction common in CFIDS. sense of smell >From: April L Tyree <tyree.pines@...> > > was mentioning this evening that she can't smell much. I remember >she mentioned the same thing over a year ago, even though in neither case >did she have a cold (hasn't gotten one in a very long time). Is this yet >another symptom related to CFS? > >April > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Grow your list the most and receive a $5000 donation >to the charity of your choice. > >See our homepage for details on our new ONEreach incentive programs. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 > I believe I could recognize it with a blind fold on. But I do tend to be > able to smell things that others can't. Supposedly that is part of adrenal > fatigue. > Donna>> Donna, I too have a very keen sense of smell, taste, hearing, etc, my husband equates it with that of an animal ... I just looked at it as a gift or being highly sensitive to ones surroundings. How does one get their adrenals tested for fatigue? I think due to the stress of everyday life, one can have varying levels of stress on the adrenals. I know a few other women who have mentioned having keen sense of taste & smell. Maybe its a gal thing? LOL Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 > <<One symptom of lagging adrenals is getting dizzy when you quickly rise > from and sitting or laying position. >> I thought that was from low blood pressure?! <<> My sense of smell is so strong that, not only can I smell things that no > one else can smell, but the smell is overwhelming. I almost threw up at my > mothers house one day.>> I have to admit, mine sense of smell is not THAT good. Theres got to be some info somewhere that will let you test your adrenals. How about muscle testing? Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 -----Original Message----- Donna, I too have a very keen sense of smell snip How does one get their adrenals tested for fatigue snip Terri Hi Terri. I am not sure. I never have $ for testing of anything, so I have to figure stuff out on my own by looking a symptoms. One symptom of lagging adrenals is getting dizzy when you quickly rise from and sitting or laying position. Hyper responses to stress, like near misses in your car or loud noises. These were all well known to me. But the hyper ability to smell was something I read on the net. My sense of smell is so strong that, not only can I smell things that no one else can smell, but the smell is overwhelming. I almost threw up at my mothers house one day. I had to run from the guest room to the back porch and throw open the door and get fresh air to keep from tossing my cookies or fainting, just from some old dried flowers she had there. They had really strong florist shop odor on them from all the chems they use to preserve. I had several people smell them and they said they couldn't smell anything at all. And I was dumbfounded. The intense perfume and chemical smell was overwhelming to me. And, apparently that is not from a clean diet, but from wacked adrenals. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 -----Original Message----- Donna, I too have a very keen sense of smell snip How does one get their adrenals tested for fatigue snip Terri Hi Terri. I am not sure. I never have $ for testing of anything, so I have to figure stuff out on my own by looking a symptoms. One symptom of lagging adrenals is getting dizzy when you quickly rise from and sitting or laying position. Hyper responses to stress, like near misses in your car or loud noises. These were all well known to me. But the hyper ability to smell was something I read on the net. My sense of smell is so strong that, not only can I smell things that no one else can smell, but the smell is overwhelming. I almost threw up at my mothers house one day. I had to run from the guest room to the back porch and throw open the door and get fresh air to keep from tossing my cookies or fainting, just from some old dried flowers she had there. They had really strong florist shop odor on them from all the chems they use to preserve. I had several people smell them and they said they couldn't smell anything at all. And I was dumbfounded. The intense perfume and chemical smell was overwhelming to me. And, apparently that is not from a clean diet, but from wacked adrenals. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 -----Original Message----- Donna, I too have a very keen sense of smell snip How does one get their adrenals tested for fatigue snip Terri Hi Terri. I am not sure. I never have $ for testing of anything, so I have to figure stuff out on my own by looking a symptoms. One symptom of lagging adrenals is getting dizzy when you quickly rise from and sitting or laying position. Hyper responses to stress, like near misses in your car or loud noises. These were all well known to me. But the hyper ability to smell was something I read on the net. My sense of smell is so strong that, not only can I smell things that no one else can smell, but the smell is overwhelming. I almost threw up at my mothers house one day. I had to run from the guest room to the back porch and throw open the door and get fresh air to keep from tossing my cookies or fainting, just from some old dried flowers she had there. They had really strong florist shop odor on them from all the chems they use to preserve. I had several people smell them and they said they couldn't smell anything at all. And I was dumbfounded. The intense perfume and chemical smell was overwhelming to me. And, apparently that is not from a clean diet, but from wacked adrenals. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 An easy way to test adrenals is to take your blood pressure lying down and again standing up. As you stand up your blood pressure will go up slightly to compensate for the blood going to the head. When the adrenals are weak the blood pressure will go down slightly when you stand up. Weak adrenals will cause chronic fatigue, difficult sleeping and allergies. Hope this helps. Earn a dime every time you receive email! Sign up FREE at: http://www.MintMail.com/?m=1143746 Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph Personal and Financial Freedom www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (home page) www.herbs4health.com (herb shop) www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom) www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words; they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. Re: Re:sense of smell > -----Original Message----- > > Donna, > I too have a very keen sense of smell > snip > How does one get their adrenals tested for fatigue > snip > Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 An easy way to test adrenals is to take your blood pressure lying down and again standing up. As you stand up your blood pressure will go up slightly to compensate for the blood going to the head. When the adrenals are weak the blood pressure will go down slightly when you stand up. Weak adrenals will cause chronic fatigue, difficult sleeping and allergies. Hope this helps. Earn a dime every time you receive email! Sign up FREE at: http://www.MintMail.com/?m=1143746 Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph Personal and Financial Freedom www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (home page) www.herbs4health.com (herb shop) www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom) www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words; they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. Re: Re:sense of smell > -----Original Message----- > > Donna, > I too have a very keen sense of smell > snip > How does one get their adrenals tested for fatigue > snip > Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 my .02: i have heard anecdotally that people with very weak liver function have an acute sense of smell. i know this from personal experience- the weaker i am the less tolerant i become of toxic fumes and on days when i feel strong i can tolerate the worst that the disgusting city of new york has to offer. when the liver is not working well, the adrenals will be under extra strain as well. our basic senses kick into higher awareness when survival is threatened. embrace the extra information your body is giving you and pay attention to it. currently i am smelling the chemical waste from the trade center attack as i live 1 mile north of it. my nose is telling me to move very far away from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 Re: Re:sense of smell > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Donna, > > I too have a very keen sense of smell > > snip > > How does one get their adrenals tested for fatigue > > snip > > Terri > > > > > > Hi Terri. I am not sure. I never have $ for testing of anything, so I > have to figure stuff out on my own by looking a symptoms. One symptom of > lagging adrenals is getting dizzy when you quickly rise from and sitting or > laying position. Hyper responses to stress, like near misses in your car or > loud noises. These were all well known to me. But the hyper ability to > smell was something I read on the net. > > > > My sense of smell is so strong that, not only can I smell things that no > one else can smell, but the smell is overwhelming. I almost threw up at my > mothers house one day. I had to run from the guest room to the back porch > and throw open the door and get fresh air to keep from tossing my cookies or > fainting, just from some old dried flowers she had there. They had really > strong florist shop odor on them from all the chems they use to preserve. I > had several people smell them and they said they couldn't smell anything at > all. And I was dumbfounded. The intense perfume and chemical smell was > overwhelming to me. And, apparently that is not from a clean diet, but from > wacked adrenals. > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2003 Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 I have been told that taking supplements of zinc will bring back my smell and taste. Has anyone tried that and if so did it work? I am taking 30mg 2x a day, just started and keep forgetting it so at this rate it isn't likely to come back soon. I use my husband to smell things for me too. Sometimes he is cranky about it, he likes the tasting part better. He is a much better cook than me cause I can't spice things well and am allergic to many spices. So...I often get out of cooking cause I can't taste and he gets fussy and takes over. Works for me! ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 : My understanding is that the sense of smell goes directly from the olfactory bulb to the amygdala. This is the only one of the five sense that does that. Since the Amygdala are directly under the temporal lobes, I think your finding of a disconnect patter is significant. I would have a tendency to try T3/4 training and see if that might help. Mark www.markwaller.com Mark Waller, Ph.D. LMFT The Waller Group Family Counseling, Inc.17451 Bastanchury Rd #204-35Yorba 4091 Riverside Dr. Ste 112Chino mail@...www.markwaller.com tel: (714) 528-8484 (909) 238-9434 From: Eure [mailto:jessicamarieeure@...] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:20 AM Subject: Sense of Smell I did an assessment on a man who was in a car accident 10 years ago. The only lasting result of brain trauma from the accident is that he has no sense of smell. His assessement shows more hibeta in the right temporal lobe than the left and a significant amount of SMR activity at task, but nothing really stood out to me to indicate the damaged areas of his cortex. Just an interesting case and would love to be able to help him smell again. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Pete: The olfactory bulb, very involved in smell is right behind the eyes and slightly above. Anyone tried Fpz placement for training? Hal Schaus P.S. Got the BE but haven't seen your files yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 DITTO - change puppies for kids! My sense of smell has always been so important to me that when it's gone I can't help but feel depressed. When I was first ill and had lost my sense of taste and smell totally for a year, I thought that was it. Luckily our sense of smell is rarely damaged, just hidden. After my op I was also on my first pred burst. About a week after, I was chopping carrots for the kids tea and I popped a slice of carrot in my mouth. What happened next was so wierd because I saw a kaliedascope of colours, like fractals, while I ate the carrot. It was only after I finished that I realised i could taste it too and I then went round the house smelling everything I could. It really was amazing! Since then my sense of smell has come and gone many times, but I've not had the associated colours. Has this ever happened to anyone else?? Becky Ellen Niedenfuer <urania@...> wrote: I hear you, Karl. I am one of those whose sense of smell is so important to every day living that I get very depressed when I don't have it. My sense of smell used to be very acute....I could always smell things others couldn't - not a mixed blessing for me, as I am a nature lover, gardener, cook, puppy owner, and I spend my vacations on the coast of Maine. Not being able to smell the ocean is extremely frustrating. I could even live without taste if I could just smell my puppy and the rest of the things in my life including my husband. It is not fun to cook or garden. I try to time my kenalog shots to coincide with Springtime and the Holidays. It is during those times that I am happy. The rest of the time I feel trapped and detached from the world. I am thinking about asking my doctor for Prozac. Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win £10k with to make your dream a reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Your question and they way you thought it through imress me , I am going to do some research and will get back to you . What is your iron saturation level ? Sense of Smell Hello Group, I was diagnosed with HCV about 7 years ago, but as most, have likelybeen infected for many years before. Upon reflection, labs fromsurgery ~ 20 years ago indicate the virus. Unfortunately, back thennobody knew what they were dealing with.About the same time that I was diagnosed, I noticed that I seemed tobe losing my sense of smell. This was critical not only for the lossof pleasurable scents, but I was also a chef at the time and thisgreatly affected my work. My sense of smell has continued to diminishand now I can only detect scents that are very strong and directlyunder my nose. I have since learned that iron and zinc compete for the same bindingsites in our body. Because zinc plays a role in our sense of smell,theoretically, if it is being restricted from binding related toexcess iron, it might result in loss of this sensory factor. My labsindicate high levels of iron, but certainly not enough to establish adiagnosis of hemochromatosis. I have tried taking zinc supplementsfor short periods of time with no resolve.My question to the group is if anybody else has experienced thischallenge or read/heard anything about it? I would greatly appreciateany input the group may be able to offer.Warmest Regards,bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Loss of smell has also been strongly linked to neurological diseases such as Parkinsons, or altzheimers . I suggest you see a ENT , the other thing is that taking zinc has shown no medical merit . At least that is what the last article I sent you says . Sense of Smell Hello Group, I was diagnosed with HCV about 7 years ago, but as most, have likelybeen infected for many years before. Upon reflection, labs fromsurgery ~ 20 years ago indicate the virus. Unfortunately, back thennobody knew what they were dealing with.About the same time that I was diagnosed, I noticed that I seemed tobe losing my sense of smell. This was critical not only for the lossof pleasurable scents, but I was also a chef at the time and thisgreatly affected my work. My sense of smell has continued to diminishand now I can only detect scents that are very strong and directlyunder my nose. I have since learned that iron and zinc compete for the same bindingsites in our body. Because zinc plays a role in our sense of smell,theoretically, if it is being restricted from binding related toexcess iron, it might result in loss of this sensory factor. My labsindicate high levels of iron, but certainly not enough to establish adiagnosis of hemochromatosis. I have tried taking zinc supplementsfor short periods of time with no resolve.My question to the group is if anybody else has experienced thischallenge or read/heard anything about it? I would greatly appreciateany input the group may be able to offer.Warmest Regards,bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Loss of smell has also been strongly linked to neurological diseases such as Parkinsons, or altzheimers . I suggest you see a ENT , the other thing is that taking zinc has shown no medical merit . At least that is what the last article I sent you says . Sense of Smell Hello Group, I was diagnosed with HCV about 7 years ago, but as most, have likelybeen infected for many years before. Upon reflection, labs fromsurgery ~ 20 years ago indicate the virus. Unfortunately, back thennobody knew what they were dealing with.About the same time that I was diagnosed, I noticed that I seemed tobe losing my sense of smell. This was critical not only for the lossof pleasurable scents, but I was also a chef at the time and thisgreatly affected my work. My sense of smell has continued to diminishand now I can only detect scents that are very strong and directlyunder my nose. I have since learned that iron and zinc compete for the same bindingsites in our body. Because zinc plays a role in our sense of smell,theoretically, if it is being restricted from binding related toexcess iron, it might result in loss of this sensory factor. My labsindicate high levels of iron, but certainly not enough to establish adiagnosis of hemochromatosis. I have tried taking zinc supplementsfor short periods of time with no resolve.My question to the group is if anybody else has experienced thischallenge or read/heard anything about it? I would greatly appreciateany input the group may be able to offer.Warmest Regards,bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Geranium in particular came out time and time again as an oil > disliked (vehemently) normally, but during the week before > menstruation became irresistible. > How would this work using geranium in a perfume formula? Would there > be subtle yes/no's throughout the month? Or would it just *meld* into > the perfume? An essence has an effect, a blend of essences makes a combination of many effects, some of which tamper or exalt others. This is true for aromatherapy (synergy) and for olfactory psychology. It is like the story of a novel, you may dislike some character but love the novel, whose character is an integrant part. You should not avoid to use an essence that you want to blend for fear that some may dislike it, and you should not hope to make a perfume that everyone will like. You should just make the perfume. Abdussalaam Attar Profumo.it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 > When I worked as an aromatherapist I experimented with my regular > (female) clients testing their likes and dislikes at different time of > the month. I found a correlation between oils often *recommended* for > female disorders (clary, geranium, rose) and my clients response to > them. Geranium in particular came out time and time again as an oil > disliked (vehemently) normally, but during the week before > menstruation became irresistible. > How would this work using geranium in a perfume formula? Would there > be subtle yes/no's throughout the month? Or would it just *meld* into > the perfume? > I'm (definitely this time!) looking to make my first *real* (as > opposed to aromatherapy blend) perfume and have geranium in mind for > part of the heart note, so help on this would be appreciated > Thanks > LLx > I'm going out on a limb a bit here...but when I read your post I thought about the Chakra system of which all 7 are related to a specific color based on a specific vibration. The color of the second chakra which rules sexual function and balance is orange...This chakra also rules creativity....Rose geranium blends well with orange oils..petigrain, orange, neroli, neroli sur fleur....this makes me wonder with your experience in aromatherapy with geranium if a PMS perfume could be created...drive the moodiness away to a new found calm.... I'm serious. LF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 > Geranium in particular came out time and time again as an oil > > disliked (vehemently) normally, but during the week before > > menstruation became irresistible. My experience with Eden Botanical's bourbon geranium is that I couldn't get enough of it for about the first 6 months of using it...then, my nose wanted some diversity, but I still love it. And then I bought some bourbon geranium from another supplier (whose name I will not mention because I don't think it's pertinent nor kosher) expecting the same (what was I thinking?). Upon opening the 4-ounce bottle, I almost hurled as I clamped the bottly shut. What WAS that? So sweet. Sickening sweet. I've smelled the same top note come from various essential oils at health food stores and every time, I just can't understand why someone would put that on a shelf for sale. But, I decided to test this geranium...and within a minute or two on the skin (diluted with oil), the top note diminished to the point where intrigue arose. Within 5 or so minutes, I was really enjoying the oil. Very floral and green. After another 10 or so minutes, it became soft, sweet and floral...reminding me of white roses. And suddenly the sweetness of Amarige (which I love) came to mind. So, maybe I chose a good one after all... Just gotta find out how to blend so as to cover up (??), alter, or make use of that stench up top. And I've gotta find out what in the world I'm smelling. Maybe I should send samples to others who might know. I've asked the supplier for the C of A so that I can identify it, but I've not yet received a reply...maybe they're just busy or my question is not top priorty. I'll try again and call. No worries. I'll use the oil in personal bathtub blends at the very least. The hot water should kick that top note outa there fast. ~Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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