Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I would avoid them as they have aluminium in them.. Aluminium is a neural toxin. We use the BK range of enamel pots- they are more pricey however they come with a life time guarantee.. We try to bake stuff rather than frying it.... The BK range is good as it can go on both hob and in the oven. and is of steel construction- no aluminium at all. BK is belgium I think ... will try to get a supplier for you.. our local shop is Marchants Bury St Edmunds tel 01284 705636- Good news is that they have 25% off everything at the moment and will ship for only £4.95 on orders less than £70 or free is more than this... We have had ours for at least 7 years and they are still fab. Similarly on aluminium front avoid tin foil and any food presented in Aluminium. Hope this helps... am glad you asked, I did not know local shop had such a reduction on... I am off to see what I can buy! Regards Tracey On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Charlotte Okparaeke <cylkev@...> wrote: Do you think these pans are ok? Otherwise what type of pans do people use for frying?http://www.lakeland.co.uk/typhoon-green-pan-kyoto-range/F/product/12909_12910 thanksCharlotte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I would avoid them as they have aluminium in them.. Aluminium is a neural toxin. We use the BK range of enamel pots- they are more pricey however they come with a life time guarantee.. We try to bake stuff rather than frying it.... The BK range is good as it can go on both hob and in the oven. and is of steel construction- no aluminium at all. BK is belgium I think ... will try to get a supplier for you.. our local shop is Marchants Bury St Edmunds tel 01284 705636- Good news is that they have 25% off everything at the moment and will ship for only £4.95 on orders less than £70 or free is more than this... We have had ours for at least 7 years and they are still fab. Similarly on aluminium front avoid tin foil and any food presented in Aluminium. Hope this helps... am glad you asked, I did not know local shop had such a reduction on... I am off to see what I can buy! Regards Tracey On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Charlotte Okparaeke <cylkev@...> wrote: Do you think these pans are ok? Otherwise what type of pans do people use for frying?http://www.lakeland.co.uk/typhoon-green-pan-kyoto-range/F/product/12909_12910 thanksCharlotte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 We have a stainless steel fry pan. Everything sticks if I use a high heat - but at a lower heat it works fine ... just needs cleaning. We use coconut oil and butter in it. A little honey helps just a bit if things are sticking a bit too much. Then a quick soak with warm soapy water and a rub with sodium bicarb gets everything off easily. Best wishes, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 We have a stainless steel fry pan. Everything sticks if I use a high heat - but at a lower heat it works fine ... just needs cleaning. We use coconut oil and butter in it. A little honey helps just a bit if things are sticking a bit too much. Then a quick soak with warm soapy water and a rub with sodium bicarb gets everything off easily. Best wishes, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi Sandy We were guided away from stainless steel several years ago as there are a number of heavy metals in the stainless steel and if there is an acid reaction between the food and the stainless steel, it allows some of the heavy metals to move onto the food. Was it things like cadmium ? At the time we were guided to try to stick with enamel.. Stainless steel is heaps better than aluminium Tracey On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Sandy and Tim <sandyandtim@...> wrote: We have a stainless steel fry pan. Everything sticks if I use a high heat - but at a lower heat it works fine ... just needs cleaning. We use coconut oil and butter in it. A little honey helps just a bit if things are sticking a bit too much. Then a quick soak with warm soapy water and a rub with sodium bicarb gets everything off easily.Best wishes, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi Sandy We were guided away from stainless steel several years ago as there are a number of heavy metals in the stainless steel and if there is an acid reaction between the food and the stainless steel, it allows some of the heavy metals to move onto the food. Was it things like cadmium ? At the time we were guided to try to stick with enamel.. Stainless steel is heaps better than aluminium Tracey On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Sandy and Tim <sandyandtim@...> wrote: We have a stainless steel fry pan. Everything sticks if I use a high heat - but at a lower heat it works fine ... just needs cleaning. We use coconut oil and butter in it. A little honey helps just a bit if things are sticking a bit too much. Then a quick soak with warm soapy water and a rub with sodium bicarb gets everything off easily.Best wishes, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi Tracey, Thanks. Yes - I looked at Dr mercola on this - he doesn't like stainless steel he sells a type of pan he likes. Have you got a link for those bk pans? I can find enamel coated pans but wouldn't be sure of the quality. Are the dk good? Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi Tracey, Thanks. Yes - I looked at Dr mercola on this - he doesn't like stainless steel he sells a type of pan he likes. Have you got a link for those bk pans? I can find enamel coated pans but wouldn't be sure of the quality. Are the dk good? Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Dear Sandy The only place I know of is our local cookware shop -- Marchants in Bury St Edmunds. They have a 25% off sale at the moment.. The BK range have a life time guarantee on them and they are good.. I have mainly bought the casserole pots at they can be used to fry, boil and bake- and often I used all three processes to produce a meal - saves on washing up. Marchants will post for a cost of £4.95 on orders of less than £70 and free if more.... I only have enamel pots pans and bakeware with a few glass pyrexes- everything else got dumped some time ago Marchants number is 01284 705636. I have been really pleased with the pots- and a bit like the stainless steel they prefer being used at moderate temperatures if frying. Tracey On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Sandy and Tim <sandyandtim@...> wrote: Hi Tracey,Thanks. Yes - I looked at Dr mercola on this - he doesn't like stainless steel he sells a type of pan he likes. Have you got a link for those bk pans? I can find enamel coated pans but wouldn't be sure of the quality. Are the dk good?Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Dear Sandy The only place I know of is our local cookware shop -- Marchants in Bury St Edmunds. They have a 25% off sale at the moment.. The BK range have a life time guarantee on them and they are good.. I have mainly bought the casserole pots at they can be used to fry, boil and bake- and often I used all three processes to produce a meal - saves on washing up. Marchants will post for a cost of £4.95 on orders of less than £70 and free if more.... I only have enamel pots pans and bakeware with a few glass pyrexes- everything else got dumped some time ago Marchants number is 01284 705636. I have been really pleased with the pots- and a bit like the stainless steel they prefer being used at moderate temperatures if frying. Tracey On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Sandy and Tim <sandyandtim@...> wrote: Hi Tracey,Thanks. Yes - I looked at Dr mercola on this - he doesn't like stainless steel he sells a type of pan he likes. Have you got a link for those bk pans? I can find enamel coated pans but wouldn't be sure of the quality. Are the dk good?Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Thanks Tracey - I will have a look in our local shops and see what they have. We use glass for the oven (very pleased with a huge roasting pan my mum found) but use stainless steel for our pans and steamer. But we'll look again at enamel alternatives. Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Dear Sandy We also have purchased a collection of enamel low allergy pressure cookers made by Silit- unfortunately these are only available in mainland Europe -so we stock up on parts when we are there.. They are fab as they cook at below 100 degrees so cook the food and preserve the vitamins and goodness Really excellent for soups and stews.. only take 10 mins at full pressure and very nutritious too. The BK stuff is not that widely available- they look like old fashioned cookware with a black enamel outer and a blue enamel inner.. you may be able to find something on line... If you find one check price against Marchants as tehe 25% makes a big difference.. Best wishes Tracey On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Sandy and Tim <sandyandtim@...> wrote: Thanks Tracey - I will have a look in our local shops and see what they have. We use glass for the oven (very pleased with a huge roasting pan my mum found) but use stainless steel for our pans and steamer. But we'll look again at enamel alternatives. Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Thanks Tracey - you have me thinking. I was looking awhile back at slo-cooking and clay pot cooking. Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Tracey, I wonder how one can be sure enamel is safe? Has it been analysed? Quite a few years ago (over 20) there was a problem with Le Creuset pans leaching cadmium if the enamel was damaged - so I threw out my old Le Creuset and haven't ever replaced them and have used stainless steel ever since, not storing food in the pans. My frying pans are cast iron. I dare say there's something wrong with them too, LOL. Margaret I bought a ceramic pan from a charity shop as these are supposed to be safe but they only rarely turn up on e-bay and sell for a fortune. > > > > > > > Thanks Tracey - I will have a look in our local shops and see what they > > have. We use glass for the oven (very pleased with a huge roasting pan my > > mum found) but use stainless steel for our pans and steamer. But we'll look > > again at enamel alternatives. > > Sandyxx > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 the other thing I have aquired is a halogen oven which has a massive glass dish and is self cleaning Yippee.. The halogen cooker can defrost... which is a real plus as I will not NUC anything in our house... These are available from time to time on the shopping channels... Margaret you are correct about the chipped enamel, however the pots I have seem pretty indestructable.. The have survived a few falls to the floor in their 6 years... The slow cooker is good,,, The glazed earthenware inner with its glaze should also be quite inert... and I think the baked clay like they use in the Med are also quite inert... we used the clay pots when I lived in Africa... and Yippee once again they cannot be washed in detergents.and improve with the layers of several baking processes. Best Wishes Tracey On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Sandy and Tim <sandyandtim@...> wrote: Thanks Tracey - you have me thinking.I was looking awhile back at slo-cooking and clay pot cooking.Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Actually 10 x new boxed sets of corning ceramic pans are currently listed on e-bay. I can't post the link but if you search " BNIB Corningware Corning Ware Corelle 10 pcs set " it will come up . £130 plus £19 postage. I don't know whether any of the pans have saucepan handles. Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 PS I don't know whether they can be used on the stove top. Margaret > > Actually 10 x new boxed sets of corning ceramic pans are currently listed on e-bay. I can't post the link but if you search " BNIB Corningware Corning Ware Corelle 10 pcs set " it will come up . £130 plus £19 postage. I don't know whether any of the pans have saucepan handles. > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 What about glass pots like those: http://www.purenature24.com/shop/a1922/glas-kochtopf-madonna-mit-deckel.html?cr=\ GBP & I have an enamel cast iron frying pan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I think batteries as well Margaret, will suck on batteries if he manages to get hold of them and actually tries to get them out of toys and remote controls. I think I read somewhere that lots of the soil in E Anglia has Cadmium from some expiraments done during WW2 and is still there to this day. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Margaret, thanks for posting this, it makes sense to me, on the last tests we did, cadmium came up and I couldn't understand why... we have been using enamel pots recently from le Creuset, and although the enamel is not damaged, it may well be coming from there (((( From: mcollins2001uk <m.collins9@...>Autism Treatment Sent: Wednesday, 13 May, 2009 19:00:23Subject: Re: Frying pans Tracey, I wonder how one can be sure enamel is safe? Has it been analysed?Quite a few years ago (over 20) there was a problem with Le Creuset pans leaching cadmium if the enamel was damaged - so I threw out my old Le Creuset and haven't ever replaced them and have used stainless steel ever since, not storing food in the pans. My frying pans are cast iron. I dare say there's something wrong with them too, LOL.MargaretI bought a ceramic pan from a charity shop as these are supposed to be safe but they only rarely turn up on e-bay and sell for a fortune.> > >> >> > Thanks Tracey - I will have a look in our local shops and see what they> > have. We use glass for the oven (very pleased with a huge roasting pan my> > mum found) but use stainless steel for our pans and steamer. But we'll look> > again at enamel alternatives.> > Sandyxx> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I should check with the manufacturer as they surely would have eliminated this from the enamel? if you have ever smoked your child may have taken in cadmium from you during gestation and breast-feeding. Cadmium stays in the body a very long time ie 10 years or more and cigarettes are a common source. Margaret > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Tracey - I will have a look in our local shops and see what they > > > have. We use glass for the oven (very pleased with a huge roasting pan my > > > mum found) but use stainless steel for our pans and steamer. But we'll look > > > again at enamel alternatives. > > > Sandyxx > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Are le Crueset enamel or are they glazed cast iron? The le C stuff I had in the past is glazed cast iron- we were pointed towards enamel as the enamelling creates a glass cover to the surface which in theory prevents leeching of toxic stuff.. I may be mad, but I think you can get cadmium from kettles too as the elements tend to be stainless steel. Tracey On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM, ebjdp <ebjdp@...> wrote: Margaret, thanks for posting this, it makes sense to me, on the last tests we did, cadmium came up and I couldn't understand why... we have been using enamel pots recently from le Creuset, and although the enamel is not damaged, it may well be coming from there (((( From: mcollins2001uk <m.collins9@...>Autism Treatment Sent: Wednesday, 13 May, 2009 19:00:23Subject: Re: Frying pans Tracey, I wonder how one can be sure enamel is safe? Has it been analysed?Quite a few years ago (over 20) there was a problem with Le Creuset pans leaching cadmium if the enamel was damaged - so I threw out my old Le Creuset and haven't ever replaced them and have used stainless steel ever since, not storing food in the pans. My frying pans are cast iron. I dare say there's something wrong with them too, LOL. MargaretI bought a ceramic pan from a charity shop as these are supposed to be safe but they only rarely turn up on e-bay and sell for a fortune.> > >> >> > Thanks Tracey - I will have a look in our local shops and see what they > > have. We use glass for the oven (very pleased with a huge roasting pan my> > mum found) but use stainless steel for our pans and steamer. But we'll look> > again at enamel alternatives. > > Sandyxx> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I am wary of enamel because it is probably all made in China and we know what standards of health and safety are like there. I threw out my old Polish enamel coffee pots because of heavy metal issues as I was told these leached. Margaret > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Tracey - I will have a look in our local shops and see what they > > > > have. We use glass for the oven (very pleased with a huge roasting pan > > my > > > > mum found) but use stainless steel for our pans and steamer. But we'll > > look > > > > again at enamel alternatives. > > > > Sandyxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 from the Wikipedia entry on Le Creuset: <<<Le Creuset cookware is known for its varied and vibrant colors. Some Le Creuset glazes at the red end of the spectrum (namely " cherry " , " brick, " and " flame " ) contain a small amount of cadmium, which can be toxic. In response to California Proposition 65 (1986) and similar legislation in the United Kingdom, Le Creuset changed their glaze formulation in the mid 1990s so that the cadmium in the glaze is chemically bound. The interior cream colored enamel - the surface that comes in contact with the food - does not and has never contained cadmium>>> Le Creuset is enamelled cast iron. In my experience the cream colored lining eventuially becomes pitted so some iron would start leaching through, but if you are careful and don't use metal implements this shouldn't happen for a long time. Margaret > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Tracey - I will have a look in our local shops and see what they > > > > have. We use glass for the oven (very pleased with a huge roasting pan > > my > > > > mum found) but use stainless steel for our pans and steamer. But we'll > > look > > > > again at enamel alternatives. > > > > Sandyxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 They are enamelled cast iron, I've just phone the manufacturer and they told me they are perfectly safe (of course....) and that because of the pbm they had many years ago they do not contain cadmium anymore..... But then nothing is perfect because I think that stainless steel can have nickel...... From: Tracey Clewer <thelifechangers@...>Autism Treatment Sent: Thursday, 14 May, 2009 13:34:32Subject: Re: Re: Frying pans Are le Crueset enamel or are they glazed cast iron? The le C stuff I had in the past is glazed cast iron- we were pointed towards enamel as the enamelling creates a glass cover to the surface which in theory prevents leeching of toxic stuff.. I may be mad, but I think you can get cadmium from kettles too as the elements tend to be stainless steel. Tracey On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:15 AM, ebjdp <ebjdp (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Margaret, thanks for posting this, it makes sense to me, on the last tests we did, cadmium came up and I couldn't understand why... we have been using enamel pots recently from le Creuset, and although the enamel is not damaged, it may well be coming from there (((( From: mcollins2001uk <m.collins9@ntlworld .com>Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.comSent: Wednesday, 13 May, 2009 19:00:23Subject: Re: Frying pans Tracey, I wonder how one can be sure enamel is safe? Has it been analysed?Quite a few years ago (over 20) there was a problem with Le Creuset pans leaching cadmium if the enamel was damaged - so I threw out my old Le Creuset and haven't ever replaced them and have used stainless steel ever since, not storing food in the pans. My frying pans are cast iron. I dare say there's something wrong with them too, LOL.MargaretI bought a ceramic pan from a charity shop as these are supposed to be safe but they only rarely turn up on e-bay and sell for a fortune.> > >> >> > Thanks Tracey - I will have a look in our local shops and see what they> > have. We use glass for the oven (very pleased with a huge roasting pan my> > mum found) but use stainless steel for our pans and steamer. But we'll look> > again at enamel alternatives.> > Sandyxx> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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