Re: gastroparesis (weak stomach)

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I have not seen any improvement with my stomach and wondering how long I

should expect before it improves at all. I don't know how much longer I can take

this. Maybe it's a para-esophageal hernia that may require surgery? or tumour?

I've always had major stomach issues but not this bad, and it got this bad after

I ate a " normal " meal of 2 eggs and some cooked broccoli and tomatoes. I had

been eating smaller meals but was trying to get my ratios in and ate the whole

thing which I didn't usually do and after that it was this bad. I'm on pureed

food right now but even still I can barely eat anything as my stomach feels like

it's ripping apart. It's so uncomfortable I want to rip my insides out, I'm very

concerned and in much agony and not sure if I need to go see a doctor or just

wait for improvement?

>

+++Hi ,

You should see a doctor to get an accurate diagnosis, so you know what is going

on. It doesn't mean you " have to " follow their treatments, but you need

confirmation.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

Thanks for your response, I guess I'll go see a doctor then. Gives me anxiety

just thinking about it, my doctor doesn't believe in candida and I've tried to

find another doctor that does but haven't had any luck. Do you happen to know

any doctors in Vancouver BC that are knowledgeable with this? My doctor will end

up being shocked at how swollen and large my stomach looks and without the

understanding of candida. I think I'll post again to see if anyone else lives in

Vancouver.

Thank you,

> +++Hi ,

>

> You should see a doctor to get an accurate diagnosis, so you know what is

going on. It doesn't mean you " have to " follow their treatments, but you need

confirmation.

>

> The best to you, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi .

I have been wondering if the issues I am still battling with may be to do with

Helicobacter. I haven't seen much if any improvement with my stomach either.

I am wondering if, because the sulphur in eggs and the sulforaphanes in broccoli

both can inhibit Helicobacter, whether it had a bit of a rebellion when you ate

them together?

Whilst I have found quite a lot of things improving, the issues with my stomach

almost seem to be getting worse! I have had a barium meal which has shown

'nothing wrong'. But I get a lot of gas - and I have something going on in my

back/left hand side around or just below armpit level.

Interestingly I wondered if the beggars are living in a 'pocket' of gas up in

the 'top' of my stomach. Today, after I had my egg drink I laid down on my back

for a few minutes. Immediately I could feel stuff going on in my back below my

left shoulder-blade and for some time it was itching and quite a bit of gas was

going down with the egg drink.

So I am going to carry on doing that when I have my egg drink, and make lots of

broccoli soup (laying down after that too). It seems that brassicas - broccoli,

cauli, cabbage etc., are very good at controlling it. Also the amount of

sulforaphanes in broccoli sprouts is far higher than the mature plants so I am

looking for some seeds in bulk too. It seems that broccoli sprouts may actually

kill it.

Have you been tested for Helicobacter? I was, about two years ago, but it came

back negative. Apparently, a negative result does not rule it out though, so I

may try and get tested again - maybe a different test, if there is one

available.

They are very resistant little beggars. I would never go down the antibiotic

route because they can become resistant and then are even harder to get rid of.

I may have had them for years.

Bee thought I might be retracing, but the side/back thing and the gas has been

going on for a couple of years now (even though my diet was very low-carb all

that time, albeit not quite the same as Bee's diet) and is showing no sign of

abating - sometimes it feels as though my guts are trying to climb out through

my throat! I have been taking the coconut oil for well over a year and have

been on Bee's diet proper for about three months.

I can sympathise with you - it is very frustrating. How long have you been on

Bee's diet?

Ali.

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I have not seen any improvement with my stomach and wondering how long I

should expect before it improves at all. I don't know how much longer I can take

this. Maybe it's a para-esophageal hernia that may require surgery? or tumour?

I've always had major stomach issues but not this bad, and it got this bad after

I ate a " normal " meal of 2 eggs and some cooked broccoli and tomatoes. I had

been eating smaller meals but was trying to get my ratios in and ate the whole

thing which I didn't usually do and after that it was this bad. I'm on pureed

food right now but even still I can barely eat anything as my stomach feels like

it's ripping apart. It's so uncomfortable I want to rip my insides out, I'm very

concerned and in much agony and not sure if I need to go see a doctor or just

wait for improvement?

>

> Thank you,

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi .

>

> I have been wondering if the issues I am still battling with may be to do with

Helicobacter. I haven't seen much if any improvement with my stomach either.

+++Hi Ali. If you've had h. pylori in the past or any other stomach issues your

body will " retrace " each and every episode while it is healing itself - see this

article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

>

> I am wondering if, because the sulphur in eggs and the sulforaphanes in

broccoli both can inhibit Helicobacter, whether it had a bit of a rebellion when

you ate them together?

+++Sulphur is one of the 7 macrominerals that your body requires in amounts

higher than 2000 mg, and it is very important for detoxification.

> Whilst I have found quite a lot of things improving, the issues with my

stomach almost seem to be getting worse! I have had a barium meal which has

shown 'nothing wrong'. But I get a lot of gas - and I have something going on

in my back/left hand side around or just below armpit level.

+++That area could be your liver, which is the most important detoxification

organ in the body. Do dry skin brushing and coffee enemas to help it.

>

> Interestingly I wondered if the beggars are living in a 'pocket' of gas up in

the 'top' of my stomach. Today, after I had my egg drink I laid down on my back

for a few minutes. Immediately I could feel stuff going on in my back below my

left shoulder-blade and for some time it was itching and quite a bit of gas was

going down with the egg drink.

+++It is unlikely for h. pylori will be anyplace other than the opening between

the stomach and small intestines.

> So I am going to carry on doing that when I have my egg drink, and make lots

of broccoli soup (laying down after that too). It seems that brassicas -

broccoli, cauli, cabbage etc., are very good at controlling it. Also the amount

of sulforaphanes in broccoli sprouts is far higher than the mature plants so I

am looking for some seeds in bulk too. It seems that broccoli sprouts may

actually kill it.

+++H. pylori is caused by low stomach acid, so ensure you are doing everything

you can to improve your digestion, including HCl supplements:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s28

+++I had h. pylori ulcers since I was 14 years old, and had many attacks off and

on for many years prior to curing my candida when I was 47 years old.

<snip>

> Bee thought I might be retracing, but the side/back thing and the gas has been

going on for a couple of years now (even though my diet was very low-carb all

that time, albeit not quite the same as Bee's diet) and is showing no sign of

abating - sometimes it feels as though my guts are trying to climb out through

my throat! I have been taking the coconut oil for well over a year and have

been on Bee's diet proper for about three months.

+++Just consuming low-carb doesn't mean you'd not get those symptoms and my

program is not just low-carb.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Ali,

That's very interesting what you say about the sulphur and broccoli. hmm.. I was

just reading about helicobactor. I haven't been tested, do you know if there is

an accurate test that can be done to see if one has this?

very frustrating indeed. I can't really say how long I've been on this diet, I

kept falling on and off. On for a month, then fell off eating carbs like yogurt,

nut butter, and so stupidly rice cakes! I never even ate those things before but

they are lower in carbs so I had those instead but I would have been better off

having a piece of sprouted grain bread instead. rice cakes are bad for us. Then

back on for a couple months and then fell off again. It was always some

emotional reason why I would start eating comfort foods. But I'm much stronger

in my mind now!

Good luck to you with your stomach issues and I hope they get better too!

> >

> > Hi Bee,

> >

> > I have not seen any improvement with my stomach and wondering how long I

should expect before it improves at all. I don't know how much longer I can take

this. Maybe it's a para-esophageal hernia that may require surgery? or tumour?

I've always had major stomach issues but not this bad, and it got this bad after

I ate a " normal " meal of 2 eggs and some cooked broccoli and tomatoes. I had

been eating smaller meals but was trying to get my ratios in and ate the whole

thing which I didn't usually do and after that it was this bad. I'm on pureed

food right now but even still I can barely eat anything as my stomach feels like

it's ripping apart. It's so uncomfortable I want to rip my insides out, I'm very

concerned and in much agony and not sure if I need to go see a doctor or just

wait for improvement?

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I have been laying down after my egg drink, and having some broccoli

before going to bed for the last three days and I do think it is helping.

Tonight I am going to go down and have a tablespoon of olive oil before I go to

bed, because I have read that that can also help to get the better of HP too.

Still looking for a decent source of broccoli seeds for sprouting and will

probably get some in the next day or two.

There are several different tests for HP. Blood tests can be done, also stool

tests, and hydrogen breath tests. I would think that they are all advisable if

you can get them.

The blood tests can tell if you have ever had issues with HP, the stool tests

may be able to tell if the infection is current, and the HBT can also back up

the stool test. I am not sure that any of them are much good on their own. I

am sure that how successful the tests are can also depend a lot on who does them

too!

Ali.

> > >

> > > Hi Bee,

> > >

> > > I have not seen any improvement with my stomach and wondering how long I

should expect before it improves at all. I don't know how much longer I can take

this. Maybe it's a para-esophageal hernia that may require surgery? or tumour?

I've always had major stomach issues but not this bad, and it got this bad after

I ate a " normal " meal of 2 eggs and some cooked broccoli and tomatoes. I had

been eating smaller meals but was trying to get my ratios in and ate the whole

thing which I didn't usually do and after that it was this bad. I'm on pureed

food right now but even still I can barely eat anything as my stomach feels like

it's ripping apart. It's so uncomfortable I want to rip my insides out, I'm very

concerned and in much agony and not sure if I need to go see a doctor or just

wait for improvement?

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Alison,

The only Broccoli seeds that help HP are from caudill seed company which can be

ordered online, they are certified by BRASSICA, which are the only that will

help HP.  I have HP and have sprouted these, and they do help, but you have to

eat at least 4 oz. a day, which is alot, also, Hannaford supermarket tends to

carry these already to eat, but again, must be certified BRASSICA. 

I actually had an endoscopy to diagnose my HP.   had that because I had thrush

down my esophagus and couldnt eat for ten days, and then found out about the

stomache ulcer.  Also,  I drank raw homemade cabbage juice and apple cider

vinegar with water, to keep it at bay.  Good luck, Holly

________________________________

From: Alison <liasonframbod@...>

Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 7:44:05 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: gastroparesis (weak stomach)

 

Well, I have been laying down after my egg drink, and having some broccoli

before going to bed for the last three days and I do think it is helping.

Tonight I am going to go down and have a tablespoon of olive oil before I go to

bed, because I have read that that can also help to get the better of HP too.

Still looking for a decent source of broccoli seeds for sprouting and will

probably get some in the next day or two.

There are several different tests for HP. Blood tests can be done, also stool

tests, and hydrogen breath tests. I would think that they are all advisable if

you can get them.

The blood tests can tell if you have ever had issues with HP, the stool tests

may be able to tell if the infection is current, and the HBT can also back up

the stool test. I am not sure that any of them are much good on their own. I am

sure that how successful the tests are can also depend a lot on who does them

too!

Ali.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info!

I'll be eating more broccoli, and try and get some sprouts too! and hopefully

some testing will confirm what's going on.

> > > >

> > > > Hi Bee,

> > > >

> > > > I have not seen any improvement with my stomach and wondering how long I

should expect before it improves at all. I don't know how much longer I can take

this. Maybe it's a para-esophageal hernia that may require surgery? or tumour?

I've always had major stomach issues but not this bad, and it got this bad after

I ate a " normal " meal of 2 eggs and some cooked broccoli and tomatoes. I had

been eating smaller meals but was trying to get my ratios in and ate the whole

thing which I didn't usually do and after that it was this bad. I'm on pureed

food right now but even still I can barely eat anything as my stomach feels like

it's ripping apart. It's so uncomfortable I want to rip my insides out, I'm very

concerned and in much agony and not sure if I need to go see a doctor or just

wait for improvement?

> > > >

> > > > Thank you,

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that Holly. Interesting about the cabbage juice and ACV. But then

all sauerkraut is is fermented cabbage juice and that helps too.

I am not sure about the 'certification' on the broccoli seeds. All brassicas -

broccoli, cabbage, kale, etc contain sulforaphanes. They are more concentrated

in broccoli sprouts and I cannot see why that would not apply to most brassica

sprouts, if not all.

There is another 'branded' product called 'Broccosprouts' that claims to do the

same thing. Natural foods are natural foods and most of them work in similar

ways.

But whatever can be marketed, you can guarantee that someone will market it for

profit! I am sure that the seeds you have listed will work, but undoubtedly the

Broccosprouts work too, and I see no reason why any other Broccoli seeds I buy

(for a fraction of the price) wouldn't work also.

After all, at one time, virgin coconut oil was as cheap as chips, but now

everyone has jumped on the bandwagon, the price has hiked right up.

Sorry to be so skeptical - it's my natural suspicion of anything commercial

coming out......

Ali.

>

> Hi Alison,

>

> The only Broccoli seeds that help HP are from caudill seed company which can

be ordered online, they are certified by BRASSICA, which are the only that will

help HP.  I have HP and have sprouted these, and they do help, but you have to

eat at least 4 oz. a day, which is alot, also, Hannaford supermarket tends to

carry these already to eat, but again, must be certified BRASSICA. 

>

> I actually had an endoscopy to diagnose my HP.   had that because I had

thrush down my esophagus and couldnt eat for ten days, and then found out about

the stomache ulcer.  Also,  I drank raw homemade cabbage juice and apple cider

vinegar with water, to keep it at bay.  Good luck, Holly

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Alison <liasonframbod@...>

>

> Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 7:44:05 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: gastroparesis (weak stomach)

>

>  

> Well, I have been laying down after my egg drink, and having some broccoli

before going to bed for the last three days and I do think it is helping.

Tonight I am going to go down and have a tablespoon of olive oil before I go to

bed, because I have read that that can also help to get the better of HP too.

>

> Still looking for a decent source of broccoli seeds for sprouting and will

probably get some in the next day or two.

>

> There are several different tests for HP. Blood tests can be done, also stool

tests, and hydrogen breath tests. I would think that they are all advisable if

you can get them.

>

> The blood tests can tell if you have ever had issues with HP, the stool tests

may be able to tell if the infection is current, and the HBT can also back up

the stool test. I am not sure that any of them are much good on their own. I am

sure that how successful the tests are can also depend a lot on who does them

too!

>

> Ali.

>

[Guest guest]

HI Ali:  Look at the Hopkins University website, they did a study, the

Broccosprouts are the ones that you can buy in the stores, also certifide, but

what I read was that the seeds that I told you about had to be certified

Brassica.  I too am so skeptical, I did read alot, and the articles were quite

interesting, though it did state that after discontinuing the broccosprouts (or

homegrown ones) for a while the H Pylori returned.  Here's what I read about

the Broccosprouts from Hopkins

In response to consumer demand, supermarkets were flooded with product marketed

and sold as broccoli sprouts. But nationwide sampling conducted by Brassica

Protection Products revealed that many broccoli sprouts on the market contained

low or inconsistent levels of SGS. In fact, some " broccoli " sprouts tested were

not even broccoli!

 

The Cabbage juice worked great, about an inch slice of cabbage in a blender with

a cup of water and drink it immediately.  Hope any of this helps you make your

decision,

Holly

________________________________

From: Alison <liasonframbod@...>

Thanks for that Holly. Interesting about the cabbage juice and ACV. But then all

sauerkraut is is fermented cabbage juice and that helps too.

I am not sure about the 'certification' on the broccoli seeds. All brassicas -

broccoli, cabbage, kale, etc contain sulforaphanes. They are more concentrated

in broccoli sprouts and I cannot see why that would not apply to most brassica

sprouts, if not all.

There is another 'branded' product called 'Broccosprouts' that claims to do the

same thing. Natural foods are natural foods and most of them work in similar

ways.

But whatever can be marketed, you can guarantee that someone will market it for

profit! I am sure that the seeds you have listed will work, but undoubtedly the

Broccosprouts work too, and I see no reason why any other Broccoli seeds I buy

(for a fraction of the price) wouldn't work also.

After all, at one time, virgin coconut oil was as cheap as chips, but now

everyone has jumped on the bandwagon, the price has hiked right up.

Sorry to be so skeptical - it's my natural suspicion of anything commercial

coming out......

Ali.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Ali,

>

> That's very interesting what you say about the sulphur and broccoli. hmm.. I

was just reading about helicobactor. I haven't been tested, do you know if there

is an accurate test that can be done to see if one has this?

>

> very frustrating indeed. I can't really say how long I've been on this diet, I

kept falling on and off. On for a month, then fell off eating carbs like yogurt,

nut butter, and so stupidly rice cakes! I never even ate those things before but

they are lower in carbs so I had those instead but I would have been better off

having a piece of sprouted grain bread instead. rice cakes are bad for us. Then

back on for a couple months and then fell off again. It was always some

emotional reason why I would start eating comfort foods. But I'm much stronger

in my mind now!

+++Hi ,

There is no need to confirm whether you have helicobactor bacteria since this

program cures it along with candida and other health problems.

Of course you will have stomach problems if you don't follow the diet accurately

and consistently. All grains are not included for very good reasons, as

explained in my main candida article.

Ensure you are also doing everything recommended for improving your digestion:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s28

That's good you are stronger now and can resist comfort foods that are damaging

your health.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, I have been laying down after my egg drink, and having some broccoli

before going to bed for the last three days and I do think it is helping.

Tonight I am going to go down and have a tablespoon of olive oil before I go to

bed, because I have read that that can also help to get the better of HP too.

+++Hi Ali. If you have good fats like olive oil too close to bedtime it can

interfere with your sleep.

>

> Still looking for a decent source of broccoli seeds for sprouting and will

probably get some in the next day or two.

>

> There are several different tests for HP. Blood tests can be done, also stool

tests, and hydrogen breath tests. I would think that they are all advisable if

you can get them.

>

> The blood tests can tell if you have ever had issues with HP, the stool tests

may be able to tell if the infection is current, and the HBT can also back up

the stool test. I am not sure that any of them are much good on their own. I

am sure that how successful the tests are can also depend a lot on who does them

too!

+++As I wrote to there is no need to confirm whether you have HP or not

since this program cures it along with candida and other health issues. I cured

my HP.

+++Remember that your body must " retrace " any past episodes with stomach

problems even if you do not have h. pylori any more. That is because of how the

body heals itself.

I've seen this happen time and time again with many issues throughout the body.

For example, women who've had previous bladder infections will retrace them, yet

IF they get tested there will be no bugs present. That's because the body is

now healing itself, and doesn't actually " have the original disease. " Also a

lady who had many serious bouts of pneumonia got through her retracing without

drugs, of course, and when tested there were no bugs present like there were

when she had it before.

So please do not keep looking for fixes which are outside this program. Just

trust your body to heal itself as Nature intended by following this program.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

,

As I wrote to you this morning it isn't necessary to get tested for h. pyloria -

read my message so you understand why.

Cheers, Bee

>

> Thanks for the info!

> I'll be eating more broccoli, and try and get some sprouts too! and hopefully

some testing will confirm what's going on.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Holly.

Yes, I think you may be right about commercially grown broccoli sprouts - apart

from the fact that I have never seen them already grown here in the UK, or

touted for their health benefits, I would much rather buy the seed and grow the

sprouts myself. That way I can be more sure.

Cabbage juice water sounds a great idea - reminds me a bit of the cabbage soup

diet that was fashionable for a while! OF course, there are lots of viable

bacteria in the raw cabbage and like sauerkraut, that, I am sure would be very

effective.

I might try that too.

Regards, Ali.

>

> HI Ali:  Look at the Hopkins University website, they did a study, the

Broccosprouts are the ones that you can buy in the stores, also certifide, but

what I read was that the seeds that I told you about had to be certified

Brassica.  I too am so skeptical, I did read alot, and the articles were quite

interesting, though it did state that after discontinuing the broccosprouts (or

homegrown ones) for a while the H Pylori returned.  Here's what I read about

the Broccosprouts from Hopkins

>

>

> In response to consumer demand, supermarkets were flooded with product

marketed and sold as broccoli sprouts. But nationwide sampling conducted by

Brassica Protection Products revealed that many broccoli sprouts on the market

contained low or inconsistent levels of SGS. In fact, some " broccoli " sprouts

tested were not even broccoli!

>  

> The Cabbage juice worked great, about an inch slice of cabbage in a blender

with a cup of water and drink it immediately.  Hope any of this helps you make

your decision,

> Holly

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Alison <liasonframbod@...>

>

>

> Thanks for that Holly. Interesting about the cabbage juice and ACV. But then

all sauerkraut is is fermented cabbage juice and that helps too.

>

> I am not sure about the 'certification' on the broccoli seeds. All brassicas -

broccoli, cabbage, kale, etc contain sulforaphanes. They are more concentrated

in broccoli sprouts and I cannot see why that would not apply to most brassica

sprouts, if not all.

>

> There is another 'branded' product called 'Broccosprouts' that claims to do

the same thing. Natural foods are natural foods and most of them work in similar

ways.

>

> But whatever can be marketed, you can guarantee that someone will market it

for profit! I am sure that the seeds you have listed will work, but undoubtedly

the Broccosprouts work too, and I see no reason why any other Broccoli seeds I

buy (for a fraction of the price) wouldn't work also.

>

> After all, at one time, virgin coconut oil was as cheap as chips, but now

everyone has jumped on the bandwagon, the price has hiked right up.

>

> Sorry to be so skeptical - it's my natural suspicion of anything commercial

coming out......

>

> Ali.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

I was going to see a doctor about a proper diagnosis on my stomach issues, as I

asked you in my earlier post and you said I should. I'm still on liquid food and

following the diet.

>

> +++Hi ,

>

> There is no need to confirm whether you have helicobactor bacteria since this

program cures it along with candida and other health problems.

>

> Of course you will have stomach problems if you don't follow the diet

accurately and consistently. All grains are not included for very good reasons,

as explained in my main candida article.

>

> Ensure you are also doing everything recommended for improving your digestion:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s28

>

> That's good you are stronger now and can resist comfort foods that are

damaging your health.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

The problem is Bee, that this issue has been with me for the last three years -

getting worse over the last two. Whilst at the moment it is relatively 'quiet'

it doesn't take very much to trigger it off again, and that is why I feel that

it is an ongoing problem rather than 'retracing'.

It is relatively quiet but it is still there. I still have discomfort in my

back, soreness behind my ribs on my left side below my armpit, and no evidence -

yet - that it is going to be going away any time soon.

If I am at all gassy, it gets worse and my left arm goes numb or gets pins and

needles, and this is how it has been all the way through.

The muscles across my back below my shoulder-blades are weak, and sometimes I

have a real hunch when I am tired.

Maybe I am just being too skeptical, but I just haven't seen any evidence so far

that it is healing. What is compressing against my ribs inside I haven't a

clue. Whether it is my stomach, the end of my liver, or my spleen, or pancreas

or something else, I just don't know.

Who knows though, I may wake up tomorrow, or next week, or next month and find

it gone! I so hope so.

I don't doubt you Bee - but I would like to think that there may be some things

within the confines of the diet that would perhaps help ease the situation....

On a positive note - by the time I reached my three month marker, not only had

the detoxing started to abate, but much to my relief ('scuse the pun) I am no

longer constipated, so that has settled at least some of my anxiety!

Ali.

> >

> > Well, I have been laying down after my egg drink, and having some broccoli

before going to bed for the last three days and I do think it is helping.

Tonight I am going to go down and have a tablespoon of olive oil before I go to

bed, because I have read that that can also help to get the better of HP too.

>

> +++Hi Ali. If you have good fats like olive oil too close to bedtime it can

interfere with your sleep.

> >

> > Still looking for a decent source of broccoli seeds for sprouting and will

probably get some in the next day or two.

> >

> > There are several different tests for HP. Blood tests can be done, also

stool tests, and hydrogen breath tests. I would think that they are all

advisable if you can get them.

> >

> > The blood tests can tell if you have ever had issues with HP, the stool

tests may be able to tell if the infection is current, and the HBT can also back

up the stool test. I am not sure that any of them are much good on their own.

I am sure that how successful the tests are can also depend a lot on who does

them too!

>

> +++As I wrote to there is no need to confirm whether you have HP or

not since this program cures it along with candida and other health issues. I

cured my HP.

>

> +++Remember that your body must " retrace " any past episodes with stomach

problems even if you do not have h. pylori any more. That is because of how the

body heals itself.

>

> I've seen this happen time and time again with many issues throughout the

body. For example, women who've had previous bladder infections will retrace

them, yet IF they get tested there will be no bugs present. That's because the

body is now healing itself, and doesn't actually " have the original disease. "

Also a lady who had many serious bouts of pneumonia got through her retracing

without drugs, of course, and when tested there were no bugs present like there

were when she had it before.

>

> So please do not keep looking for fixes which are outside this program. Just

trust your body to heal itself as Nature intended by following this program.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ali:   It's fun to grow the sprouts, takes about 5 days, and you have to

rinse them 2 times a day, I bought 2 sprouting jars, so I could have them ready

at different times.  I do hope this helps your stomache as it has helped

mine.   I didn't realize you are in the UK, maybe you could go online to the

Hopkins Brassica website and write to them to see if any live sprouts are

sold anywhere near you.  Good luck sprouting!   Also, sprouting yourself, you

know they are healthy and no recalls!   Holly

________________________________

From: Alison <liasonframbod@...>

Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 4:06:55 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: gastroparesis (weak stomach)

 

Thanks Holly.

Yes, I think you may be right about commercially grown broccoli sprouts - apart

from the fact that I have never seen them already grown here in the UK, or

touted for their health benefits, I would much rather buy the seed and grow the

sprouts myself. That way I can be more sure.

Cabbage juice water sounds a great idea - reminds me a bit of the cabbage soup

diet that was fashionable for a while! OF course, there are lots of viable

bacteria in the raw cabbage and like sauerkraut, that, I am sure would be very

effective.

I might try that too.

Regards, Ali.

>

> HI Ali:  Look at the Hopkins University website, they did a study, the

Broccosprouts are the ones that you can buy in the stores, also certifide, but

what I read was that the seeds that I told you about had to be certified

Brassica.  I too am so skeptical, I did read alot, and the articles were

quite interesting, though it did state that after discontinuing the

broccosprouts (or homegrown ones) for a while the H Pylori

returned.  Here's what I read about the Broccosprouts from Hopkins

>

>

> In response to consumer demand, supermarkets were flooded with product

marketed and sold as broccoli sprouts. But nationwide sampling conducted by

Brassica Protection Products revealed that many broccoli sprouts on the market

contained low or inconsistent levels of SGS. In fact, some " broccoli " sprouts

tested were not even broccoli!

>  

> The Cabbage juice worked great, about an inch slice of cabbage in a blender

with a cup of water and drink it immediately.  Hope any of this helps you

make your decision,

> Holly

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Alison <liasonframbod@...>

>

>

> Thanks for that Holly. Interesting about the cabbage juice and ACV. But then

all sauerkraut is is fermented cabbage juice and that helps too.

>

> I am not sure about the 'certification' on the broccoli seeds. All brassicas -

broccoli, cabbage, kale, etc contain sulforaphanes. They are more concentrated

in broccoli sprouts and I cannot see why that would not apply to most brassica

sprouts, if not all.

>

> There is another 'branded' product called 'Broccosprouts' that claims to do

the same thing. Natural foods are natural foods and most of them work in similar

ways.

>

> But whatever can be marketed, you can guarantee that someone will market it

for profit! I am sure that the seeds you have listed will work, but undoubtedly

the Broccosprouts work too, and I see no reason why any other Broccoli seeds I

buy (for a fraction of the price) wouldn't work also.

>

> After all, at one time, virgin coconut oil was as cheap as chips, but now

everyone has jumped on the bandwagon, the price has hiked right up.

>

> Sorry to be so skeptical - it's my natural suspicion of anything commercial

coming out......

>

> Ali.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> The problem is Bee, that this issue has been with me for the last three years

- getting worse over the last two. Whilst at the moment it is relatively 'quiet'

it doesn't take very much to trigger it off again, and that is why I feel that

it is an ongoing problem rather than 'retracing'.

+++Hi Ali. All areas of your body don't always heal in backward consecutive

order according to Hering's Law of Cure. I think your body wasn't ready to

retrace your stomach issues before, but it is able to do it now.

In fact dis-ease processes are exactly the same as healing/ detoxifying

processes, with the only difference being that a person on this healthy program

is progressing towards health rather than becoming more and more unhealthy, or

dis-eased.

The medical field labels each and every " sign " of poor health as separate

dis-eases, illnesses, symptoms, etc. instead of calling them what they actually

are, i.e. " signs " the body is working hard at maintaining its health in spite of

poor nutrition, toxins, etc., which means it is trying to heal and detoxify

itself.

To feel more secure you are progressing and not getting worse read the section

Healing Reactions Versus Disease Reactions in this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

I just finished retracing another one of the hundreds of ulcer attacks I'd had

in my life, which certainly took its time to happen since I've been on the high

fat program for some time. But I also went through tremendous stress in those

years, so healing wouldn't progress normally either. I just go with the flow,

knowing my body is doing its job. The attacks are never as bad as they were

originally of course, and I always feel more renewed afterward.

>

>>> It is relatively quiet but it is still there. I still have discomfort in my

back, soreness behind my ribs on my left side below my armpit, and no evidence -

yet - that it is going to be going away any time soon. If I am at all gassy, it

gets worse and my left arm goes numb or gets pins and needles, and this is how

it has been all the way through.

+++That's normal to happen too.

>

> The muscles across my back below my shoulder-blades are weak, and sometimes I

have a real hunch when I am tired.

>

> Maybe I am just being too skeptical, but I just haven't seen any evidence so

far that it is healing. What is compressing against my ribs inside I haven't a

clue. Whether it is my stomach, the end of my liver, or my spleen, or pancreas

or something else, I just don't know.

+++You could get checked by the doctor so you " know " what is actually going on.

>

> Who knows though, I may wake up tomorrow, or next week, or next month and find

it gone! I so hope so.

>

> I don't doubt you Bee - but I would like to think that there may be some

things within the confines of the diet that would perhaps help ease the

situation....

>

> On a positive note - by the time I reached my three month marker, not only had

the detoxing started to abate, but much to my relief ('scuse the pun) I am no

longer constipated, so that has settled at least some of my anxiety!

+++You just need to learn more so you feel more secure about what is happening

with your body.

All the best, Bee