Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 , You might want to get some of Bruce Fife's books. Here is a start. www.qualityfirst.on.ca is the only source of the cold process centrifuged coconut oil worldwide. They have a patent on the process and supply all retailers with the product. Virgin oil from India (found at www.wildernessfamilynaturals.org) and coconutoil-online are the same oil. Tropical Traditions states that they use fresh, organic coconuts processed with no chemicals or high heat. They use a wet-milling cold process method of extration. I am getting this from my notes and invite anyone to correct me if I am wrong. I have used all these oils and love each one. HTH, Del " johncarryl " wrote: > > Folks: > > > I am researching coconut oil. Here are my current questions: > > * What is the difference between NATURAL coconut oil & HYDROGENATED > coconut oil ? > * Why is coconut oil often referred to as " VIRGIN " coconut oil ? > > * Where can I find a description of the coconut oil production > process ? > > * I am interested in coconut oil properties like: purity, texture, > flavor, quality, shade, etc. How can these be controlled during the > production process ? > > * Is there a description of the coconut oil production process > anywhere on the Internet ? > > * Is there any nutritional difference between coconut oil & coconut > milk ? > > > > Thanks, > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 My reply below your queries ----- Original Message ----- " johncarryl " wrote: > > Folks: > > > I am researching coconut oil. Here are my current questions: > > * What is the difference between NATURAL coconut oil & HYDROGENATED > coconut oil ? I believe natural coconut oil is what is now known as virgin coconut oil. This type of coconut oil is produced without the use of any chemical or any foreign body. It could be produced with heat or no heat application. Hydrogenated oil could be vegetable or coconut oil processed with the use of hydrogen to allow it to have longer shelf life. This now is proven to cause the arteries to get clogged due to its stickiness (it clings on the walls of arteries). > * Why is coconut oil often referred to as " VIRGIN " coconut oil ? Copied from virgin olive oil to define its purity. > > * Where can I find a description of the coconut oil production > process ? There are many processes. Maybe a google search would lead you to some websites. > > * I am interested in coconut oil properties like: purity, texture, > flavor, quality, shade, etc. How can these be controlled during the > production process ? First, selection of right age of coconut; Then grating -- shell should not be included in grated meat, etc.; Milk should be extracted from meat immediately to avoid contaminations; Proper room temperature if using fermentation process; frequency of removal of separated water; Time of fermentation process; Scooping of oil; further processing to remove moisture. Removal of moisture is very important because moisture left on the oil can turn the oil rancid. Even good centrifuged oil, if there is moisture in it, would turn bad. I've seen it happen. > * Is there a description of the coconut oil production process > anywhere on the Internet ? Yes, there was once an FAO article on google.> > * Is there any nutritional difference between coconut oil & coconut > milk ? Yes, coconut milk has every nutrient intact provided you take it very fresh. An 8 oz glass of very fresh coconut milk would give you the daily requirement of coconut oil. Coconut milk is easier to take than the oil. It is almost tasteless. You have to ingest it as soon as you can to avoid separation of water. > > > > Thanks, > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 HI, I have been reading the coconut oil posts and I am very interested, because I love this oil, but isn't coconut an ovoid for O's? Thanks Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 According to ER4YT, coconut oil is an avouid for secretors and a neutral for non-secretors. " A true friend is someone who thinks you are a good egg even though he knows you are slightly cracked From: bluequilter1 <bluequilter1@...> Subject: Coconut oil questions Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 8:22 PM Has anybody noticed a difference in the leaky gut syndrome after taking coconut oil? How much should a person take? How often? Empty stomach, or full? Thanks. Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 We had discussion about this a few years back. First of all, there was not the raw coconut oil when he did his research, which makes for 2 very different products, so we wondered if that made a difference. Second, I just rechecked the website and the information, to me, seems to be more indicative of the saturated fat that any other problem. Since coconut oil is liquid below 76 degrees, that would not be a factor in the human body. And from my experience with it on myself and others, this is one I leave open for questioning. I don't have any internal health situations that I can say the coconut oil has helped but on my skin in the winter it is marvelous! And there is the possibility that you can get internal benefits from external application of good fats and thus avoid possible reactions from digestion absorption. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:25 AM, susan forrester <sfor58@...> wrote: > According to ER4YT, coconut oil is an avouid for secretors and a neutral > for non-secretors. > > " A true friend is someone who thinks > you are a good egg > even though he knows > you are slightly cracked > > > > From: bluequilter1 <bluequilter1@... <bluequilter1%40>> > Subject: Coconut oil questions > <%40> > Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 8:22 PM > > Has anybody noticed a difference in the leaky gut syndrome after taking > coconut oil? > > How much should a person take? How often? Empty stomach, or full? > > Thanks. > > Maureen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I have wondered if Dr. D'Adamo tested raw dairy products instead of pasteurized homogenized if the results would be different too. ________________________________ From: s <responsiblywell@...> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:36:31 AM Subject: Re: Coconut oil questions We had discussion about this a few years back. First of all, there was not the raw coconut oil when he did his research, which makes for 2 very different products, so we wondered if that made a difference. Second, I just rechecked the website and the information, to me, seems to be more indicative of the saturated fat that any other problem. Since coconut oil is liquid below 76 degrees, that would not be a factor in the human body. And from my experience with it on myself and others, this is one I leave open for questioning. I don't have any internal health situations that I can say the coconut oil has helped but on my skin in the winter it is marvelous! And there is the possibility that you can get internal benefits from external application of good fats and thus avoid possible reactions from digestion absorption. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:25 AM, susan forrester <sfor58 (DOT) com> wrote: > According to ER4YT, coconut oil is an avouid for secretors and a neutral > for non-secretors. > > " A true friend is someone who thinks > you are a good egg > even though he knows > you are slightly cracked > > > > From: bluequilter1 <bluequilter1 <bluequilter1% 40> > > Subject: Coconut oil questions > @groups .com <%40gro ups.com> > Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 8:22 PM > > Has anybody noticed a difference in the leaky gut syndrome after taking > coconut oil? > > How much should a person take? How often? Empty stomach, or full? > > Thanks. > > Maureen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Maureen, Coconut oil definitely helped me reverse a severe case of leaky gut syndrome. I think it's important to note that identifying and then eliminating the source of the LGS is the most important factor in reversing the condition. For me, it was a simple matter of immediately switching away from my new diet and back to my old diet. Since I never ate processed or junk foods before or during this diet change, it was easy for me to identify the culprit of LGS as my new diet. For others, the most common solution may be to just eliminate all processed or junk foods altogether. Although I made noticeable improvements by switching diets, the healing process moved slowly. After discovering and adding coconut oil, I noticed an exponential improvement in my health and reversal of LGS. Coconut oil is often referred to as a " healing fat " . Saturated fatty acids comprise over half of your cell membranes. A highly saturated fat like coconut oil helps restore the cell membranes of your intestines while boosting your immune system. Even folks that have noticed a food sensitivity to eating coconut " meat " usually respond extremely well to the oil. If memory serves me correct, the general recommended daily intake of coconut oil is 1- tablespoon per 50lbs of bodyweight. As far as specific recommendations for LGS, I don't recall anyone credible advocating set amounts. Personally, I took 2 tablespoons of coconut oil 2 hours prior to eating (breakfast, lunch and dinner-in accordance with my bodyweight). My rationale was to have the coconut oil in my intestines ahead of food to promote healing. In addition, coconut oil any closer to mealtime greatly diminished my appetite, and taken with food made me feel so full that I was going to explode. Coconut oil too close to bedtime kept me up all night, but just prior to exercise was 10- times better than any so-called " energy drink " . -Mike > > Has anybody noticed a difference in the leaky gut syndrome after taking > coconut oil? > > How much should a person take? How often? Empty stomach, or full? > > Thanks. > > Maureen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 It's supposedly an avoid. That's what these posts are discussing. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 9:29 PM, myfreakycat <myfreakycat@...>wrote: > HI, I have been reading the coconut oil posts and I am very interested, > because I love this oil, but isn't coconut an ovoid for O's? > Thanks > Jo > > > -- Cheers, Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Coconut oil is neutral for O nonsecretors. ________________________________ From: s <responsiblywell@...> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:30:29 PM Subject: Re: Re: Coconut oil questions It's supposedly an avoid. That's what these posts are discussing. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 9:29 PM, myfreakycat <myfreakycat. au>wrote: > HI, I have been reading the coconut oil posts and I am very interested, > because I love this oil, but isn't coconut an ovoid for O's? > Thanks > Jo > > > -- Cheers, Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Wow. Mike it gave you that much energy? I better start using it again. Coconut oil too close to bedtime kept me up all night, but just prior to exercise was 10- times better than any so-called " energy drink " . -Mike > > Has anybody noticed a difference in the leaky gut syndrome after taking > coconut oil? > > How much should a person take? How often? Empty stomach, or full? > > Thanks. > > Maureen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 What brand of coconut oil do you use? " A true friend is someone who thinks you are a good egg even though he knows you are slightly cracked From: mdstxag91 <mdstxag91@...> Subject: Re: Coconut oil questions Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 1:12 PM Maureen, Coconut oil definitely helped me reverse a severe case of leaky gut syndrome. I think it's important to note that identifying and then eliminating the source of the LGS is the most important factor in reversing the condition. For me, it was a simple matter of immediately switching away from my new diet and back to my old diet. Since I never ate processed or junk foods before or during this diet change, it was easy for me to identify the culprit of LGS as my new diet. For others, the most common solution may be to just eliminate all processed or junk foods altogether. Although I made noticeable improvements by switching diets, the healing process moved slowly. After discovering and adding coconut oil, I noticed an exponential improvement in my health and reversal of LGS. Coconut oil is often referred to as a " healing fat " . Saturated fatty acids comprise over half of your cell membranes. A highly saturated fat like coconut oil helps restore the cell membranes of your intestines while boosting your immune system. Even folks that have noticed a food sensitivity to eating coconut " meat " usually respond extremely well to the oil. If memory serves me correct, the general recommended daily intake of coconut oil is 1- tablespoon per 50lbs of bodyweight. As far as specific recommendations for LGS, I don't recall anyone credible advocating set amounts. Personally, I took 2 tablespoons of coconut oil 2 hours prior to eating (breakfast, lunch and dinner-in accordance with my bodyweight). My rationale was to have the coconut oil in my intestines ahead of food to promote healing. In addition, coconut oil any closer to mealtime greatly diminished my appetite, and taken with food made me feel so full that I was going to explode. Coconut oil too close to bedtime kept me up all night, but just prior to exercise was 10- times better than any so-called " energy drink " . -Mike > > Has anybody noticed a difference in the leaky gut syndrome after taking > coconut oil? > > How much should a person take? How often? Empty stomach, or full? > > Thanks. > > Maureen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 " Wilderness Family Naturals " : Extra Virgin, Cold Pressed, Centrifuge Extracted, 100% Organic. -Mike > > What brand of coconut oil do you use? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Hi Bee and all, I have some questions regarding coconut oil. Is Jarrow Formulas EVCO ok on the diet? They say it's unrefined. http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Coconut-Oil-Extra-Virgin-32-oz-908-g/7227?a\ t=0 After epilation is it ok to apply coconut oil on skin or it will clog pores? And when going out in the sun what should I use for CO storage? I'm not gonna take it out of the jar and apply to my body... Ina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 > > Hi Bee and all, > I have some questions regarding coconut oil. > > Is Jarrow Formulas EVCO ok on the diet? They say it's unrefined. > http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Coconut-Oil-Extra-Virgin-32-oz-908-g/7227?a\ t=0 > > After epilation is it ok to apply coconut oil on skin or it will clog pores? > > And when going out in the sun what should I use for CO storage? I'm not gonna take it out of the jar and apply to my body... +++Hi Ina, That is a good coconut oil to take. Coconut oil does not clog the pores. I put it in small glass jars, and take one with me when I go to the beach. Or you could put some in a bottle that has a tip so you can squeeze it out into your hand. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Hi andra, What type of wax do you use? I'm trying to find a better one for my eyebrows and lip. If you have any suggestions I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Coconut oil is wonderful on the skin and will not clog your pores. I use it on my face daily and on my legs after waxing on a regular basis. Hope that helps, andra, a group moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 Hello , I make my own sugar-based wax, from a recipe I found on the internet. Before I started using it I double checked with Bee, who indicated that using sugar externally in this way wasn't the same as consuming it (should be obvious but I got very concerned ). The ingredients are: sugar lemon juice water glycerin Google around and you should find a whole number of recipes with instructions and amounts. You mix together the ingredients and heat them until they firm a bit. Of course, you need to wait for them to cool down before use, since you can burn yourself horribly with hot sugar! I use it on my legs; my mother has used it on her lip. Works a treat. One such batch (I think it's 2 cups sugar) easily is enough for 2 half-leg applications plus some left over. Here's to home pampering andra, a group moderator Hi andra, What type of wax do you use? I'm trying to find a better one for my eyebrows and lip. If you have any suggestions I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2010 Report Share Posted June 10, 2010 Oh wow! Thanks for the info...I will give it a try and let you know how it goes! Hello , I make my own sugar-based wax, from a recipe I found on the internet. Before I started using it I double checked with Bee, who indicated that using sugar externally in this way wasn't the same as consuming it (should be obvious but I got very concerned ). The ingredients are: sugar lemon juice water glycerin andra, a group moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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