Guest guest Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 HiBee, Just did another blood test to check thyroid levels. My dr and I are now doing this on a monthly basis. I started the diet early July, 2009, but things really started moving in Oct 2009 when we got my Vit A intake where it should be. My question: Six weeks ago when we checked my thyroid levels, I was low--T3 was 218, reference range 230-240. At that time I suspected it was low because I felt a dip in energy and my skin became more dry than it was already. The time before my dr had lowered my compounded Armour thyroid to 60mg from 90mg/day. For many years I had taken the 60mg dose. Last time we checked and it was low (218) my dr and I decided to leave me at 60mg since the thyroid is in process of healing. She agreed with me to let's wait and see. I suspect my levels are still low--skin still very dry and flaky, especially on legs and arms, and energy still low. I've had some pretty major emotional stuff going on, too. Finally, the question: Any idea what I should be aiming for in regards to how much thyroid hormone to take in relation to the length of time I've been on the diet? I've taken thyroid hormone for 13 years. I understand your disclaimer if you can't advise here. I'm trying to figure out if I should convince my doc to leave me at 60mg and continue to wait and see, or if it would be better to bump up again. I suspect she will want to do that. Thank your for your hard work and concern for others! Leesa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2010 Report Share Posted May 22, 2010 > > HiBee, > > Just did another blood test to check thyroid levels. My dr and I are now doing this on a monthly basis. I started the diet early July, 2009, but things really started moving in Oct 2009 when we got my Vit A intake where it should be. > > My question: Six weeks ago when we checked my thyroid levels, I was low--T3 was 218, reference range 230-240. At that time I suspected it was low because I felt a dip in energy and my skin became more dry than it was already. The time before my dr had lowered my compounded Armour thyroid to 60mg from 90mg/day. For many years I had taken the 60mg dose. Last time we checked and it was low (218) my dr and I decided to leave me at 60mg since the thyroid is in process of healing. She agreed with me to let's wait and see. I suspect my levels are still low--skin still very dry and flaky, especially on legs and arms, and energy still low. I've had some pretty major emotional stuff going on, too. > > Finally, the question: Any idea what I should be aiming for in regards to how much thyroid hormone to take in relation to the length of time I've been on the diet? I've taken thyroid hormone for 13 years. I understand your disclaimer if you can't advise here. I'm trying to figure out if I should convince my doc to leave me at 60mg and continue to wait and see, or if it would be better to bump up again. I suspect she will want to do that. +++Hi Leesa, Your doctor seems to be working with you very well on this, so just keep testing and follow what your doctor recommends. I wouldn't " try to " convince him/her since the symptoms you describe may not be related to your thyroid. Those symptoms can happen because of detoxifying or because of other things going on. Ensure you become familiar with high thyroid symptoms. IF you get them you should see your doctor and get tested immediately, since it may mean your thyroid is recovering and taking meds is confusing it, throwing it into a tizzy from low to high, etc., like mine did, but we didn't know my thyroid would recover back then. Cheers, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Hi Leza,Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you can be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not to be adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as soon as possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when your thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm all for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward healing. in AlaskaOn Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry skin, little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as well as frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop of a hat. I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never eat and get consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and have been tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr last week and got a really huge work up and requested all the thyroids and hormone panels. Here is my thyroid T4 5.3T4, Free 0.78T3 81TSH 7.92My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it or just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour if I can fix it without. Advice PLEASE!Leza Heed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on " fixing " the thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you need. The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't have thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. Because of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the thyroid. By the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes the problem. Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to take thyroid meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen rather than Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of a hormone you gotta have. Take the Armour! -- moderator On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > Hi Leza, > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the Armour > so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you can be > healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not to be > adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as soon as > possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when your thyroid > levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm all for solving > the root issue but there are times when hormone replacement is > essential to give your body a jump start toward healing. > > in Alaska > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral daily > for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I have long > thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry skin, little > crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as well as frequent > constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop of a hat. I also > suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never eat and get > consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and have been > tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr last week and > got a really huge work up and requested all the thyroids and hormone > panels. Here is my thyroid > > T4 5.3 > T4, Free 0.78 > T3 81 > TSH 7.92 > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for Armour. > I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it or just > raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour if I can fix > it without. Advice PLEASE! > > Leza Heed > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, AngieOn Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote: The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on "fixing" the thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you need. The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't have thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. Because of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the thyroid. By the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes the problem. Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to take thyroid meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen rather than Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of a hormone you gotta have. Take the Armour! -- moderator On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > Hi Leza, > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the Armour > so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you can be > healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not to be > adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as soon as > possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when your thyroid > levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm all for solving > the root issue but there are times when hormone replacement is > essential to give your body a jump start toward healing. > > in Alaska > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral daily > for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I have long > thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry skin, little > crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as well as frequent > constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop of a hat. I also > suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never eat and get > consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and have been > tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr last week and > got a really huge work up and requested all the thyroids and hormone > panels. Here is my thyroid > > T4 5.3 > T4, Free 0.78 > T3 81 > TSH 7.92 > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for Armour. > I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it or just > raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour if I can fix > it without. Advice PLEASE! > > Leza Heed > > > > > > > > > > > -AngieHive mind level 5 worker: Honey producer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Thanks for the input! How should I dose my iodine now? I am at 25mg and was planning on increasing this week.Leza Heed From: Totten <afaltotten@...> iodine Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Thyroid levels , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, AngieOn Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote: The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on "fixing" the thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you need. The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't have thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. Because of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the thyroid. By the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes the problem. Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to take thyroid meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen rather than Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of a hormone you gotta have. Take the Armour! -- moderator On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > Hi Leza, > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the Armour > so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you can be > healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not to be > adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as soon as > possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when your thyroid > levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm all for solving > the root issue but there are times when hormone replacement is > essential to give your body a jump start toward healing. > > in Alaska > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral daily > for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I have long > thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry skin, little > crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as well as frequent > constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop of a hat. I also > suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never eat and get > consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and have been > tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr last week and > got a really huge work up and requested all the thyroids and hormone > panels. Here is my thyroid > > T4 5.3 > T4, Free 0.78 > T3 81 > TSH 7.92 > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for Armour. > I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it or just > raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour if I can fix > it without. Advice PLEASE! > > Leza Heed > > > > > > > > > > > -AngieHive mind level 5 worker: Honey producer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Leza-- There is no conflict. Start the Armour, maybe wait another week before you raise your iodine more. I don't really think there is anything to be concerned about, but generally it's preferable to only make one major change at a time so that you understand what any responses/symptoms might be related to. hope this helps. -- On 12 Feb 2012 at 12:34, leza wrote: > > > > Thanks for the input! How should I dose my iodine now? I am at 25mg > and was planning on increasing this week. Leza Heed > > From: Totten <afaltotten@...> > iodine > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: Thyroid levels > > > > , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement > is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than > hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, Angie > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote: > > > The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the > person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on " fixing " the > thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you need. > The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't have > thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. Because > of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the thyroid. By > the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes the problem. > Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to take thyroid > meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen rather than > Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of a hormone you > gotta have. > > Take the Armour! > > -- > moderator > > On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Leza, > > > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be > > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the > > Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you can > > be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not to be > > adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as soon as > > possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when your > > thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm all > > for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone > > replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward > > healing. > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry skin, > > little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as well as > > frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop of a hat. > > I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never eat and get > > consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and have been > > tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr last week and > > got a really huge work up and requested all the thyroids and hormone > > panels. Here is my thyroid > > > > T4 5.3 > > T4, Free 0.78 > > T3 81 > > TSH 7.92 > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it or > > just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour if I > > can fix it without. Advice PLEASE! > > > > Leza Heed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Angie > > Hive mind level 5 worker: Honey producer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I personally used Isocort until I didn't need it any more. My acupuncturist/ND prescribed just 1-2 pellets per day for me, although the label says up to 8. Some adrenal-educated folks, and some iodine list members, say that Isocort isn't strong enough to do the healing needed. Some say that HC is going to be needed so why bother with Isocort. However, Isocort cured it for me. Personally I'd rather give Isocort, a whole- extract, a chance before going to a refined product. But people say that HC is safe and effective, so it's really up to you and what you know about your own body/systems. I'm super sensitive, which can be a real hassle, but one upside is that I tend to respond to smaller doses of things. Certainly that was true for Isocort. -- moderator > , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement > is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than > hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, Angie > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote: > > > The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the > person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on " fixing " the > thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you need. > The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't have > thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. Because > of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the thyroid. By > the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes the problem. > Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to take thyroid > meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen rather than > Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of a hormone you > gotta have. > > Take the Armour! > > -- > moderator > > On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Leza, > > > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be > > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the > > Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you can > > be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not to be > > adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as soon as > > possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when your > > thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm all > > for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone > > replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward > > healing. > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry skin, > > little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as well as > > frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop of a hat. > > I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never eat and get > > consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and have been > > tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr last week and > > got a really huge work up and requested all the thyroids and hormone > > panels. Here is my thyroid > > > > T4 5.3 > > T4, Free 0.78 > > T3 81 > > TSH 7.92 > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it or > > just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour if I > > can fix it without. Advice PLEASE! > > > > Leza Heed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 THANK YOU, . Do you really think HC is safe? I've always heard hydrocortisone is a big no-no, at least for dealing with things like inflammation. Maybe it's different when it's directly for the adrenal glands? I'm giving Isocort a try first, but want to know if I can keep my options open or if Isocort is IT. -AngieOn Feb 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Baker wrote: I personally used Isocort until I didn't need it any more. My acupuncturist/ND prescribed just 1-2 pellets per day for me, although the label says up to 8. Some adrenal-educated folks, and some iodine list members, say that Isocort isn't strong enough to do the healing needed. Some say that HC is going to be needed so why bother with Isocort. However, Isocort cured it for me. Personally I'd rather give Isocort, a whole- extract, a chance before going to a refined product. But people say that HC is safe and effective, so it's really up to you and what you know about your own body/systems. I'm super sensitive, which can be a real hassle, but one upside is that I tend to respond to smaller doses of things. Certainly that was true for Isocort. -- moderator > , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement > is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than > hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, Angie > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote: > > > The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the > person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on "fixing" the > thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you need. > The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't have > thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. Because > of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the thyroid. By > the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes the problem. > Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to take thyroid > meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen rather than > Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of a hormone you > gotta have. > > Take the Armour! > > -- > moderator > > On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Leza, > > > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be > > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the > > Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you can > > be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not to be > > adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as soon as > > possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when your > > thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm all > > for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone > > replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward > > healing. > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry skin, > > little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as well as > > frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop of a hat. > > I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never eat and get > > consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and have been > > tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr last week and > > got a really huge work up and requested all the thyroids and hormone > > panels. Here is my thyroid > > > > T4 5.3 > > T4, Free 0.78 > > T3 81 > > TSH 7.92 > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it or > > just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour if I > > can fix it without. Advice PLEASE! > > > > Leza Heed -AngieHive mind level 5 worker: Honey producer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Personally, I would not take Isocort or HC without KNOWING I had low cortisol from a 4x per day saliva test. For general adrenal support, I would use an adaptogenic herb such as ashwagandha or rhodiola. in NS, Canada At 05:23 PM 12/02/12, you wrote: >I personally used Isocort until I didn't need it any more. My >acupuncturist/ND prescribed just >1-2 pellets per day for me, although the label says up to 8. > >Some adrenal-educated folks, and some iodine list members, say that >Isocort isn't strong >enough to do the healing needed. Some say that HC is going to be needed >so why bother >with Isocort. However, Isocort cured it for me. Personally I'd rather >give Isocort, a whole- >extract, a chance before going to a refined product. > >But people say that HC is safe and effective, so it's really up to you and >what you know >about your own body/systems. I'm super sensitive, which can be a real >hassle, but one >upside is that I tend to respond to smaller doses of things. Certainly >that was true for >Isocort. > >-- >moderator > > > > , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement > > is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than > > hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, Angie > > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote: > > > > > > The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the > > person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on " fixing " the > > thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you need. > > The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't have > > thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. Because > > of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the thyroid. By > > the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes the problem. > > Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to take thyroid > > meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen rather than > > Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of a hormone you > > gotta have. > > > > Take the Armour! > > > > -- > > moderator > > > > On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Leza, > > > > > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be > > > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > > > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > > > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the > > > Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you can > > > be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not to be > > > adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as soon as > > > possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when your > > > thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm all > > > for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone > > > replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward > > > healing. > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral > > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I > > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry skin, > > > little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as well as > > > frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop of a hat. > > > I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never eat and get > > > consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and have been > > > tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr last week and > > > got a really huge work up and requested all the thyroids and hormone > > > panels. Here is my thyroid > > > > > > T4 5.3 > > > T4, Free 0.78 > > > T3 81 > > > TSH 7.92 > > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for > > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it or > > > just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour if I > > > can fix it without. Advice PLEASE! > > > > > > Leza Heed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Mine are definitely low on the saliva test.On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:59 PM, wrote: Personally, I would not take Isocort or HC without KNOWING I had low cortisol from a 4x per day saliva test. For general adrenal support, I would use an adaptogenic herb such as ashwagandha or rhodiola. in NS, Canada At 05:23 PM 12/02/12, you wrote: >I personally used Isocort until I didn't need it any more. My >acupuncturist/ND prescribed just >1-2 pellets per day for me, although the label says up to 8. > >Some adrenal-educated folks, and some iodine list members, say that >Isocort isn't strong >enough to do the healing needed. Some say that HC is going to be needed >so why bother >with Isocort. However, Isocort cured it for me. Personally I'd rather >give Isocort, a whole- >extract, a chance before going to a refined product. > >But people say that HC is safe and effective, so it's really up to you and >what you know >about your own body/systems. I'm super sensitive, which can be a real >hassle, but one >upside is that I tend to respond to smaller doses of things. Certainly >that was true for >Isocort. > >-- >moderator > > > > , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement > > is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than > > hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, Angie > > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote: > > > > > > The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the > > person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on "fixing" the > > thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you need. > > The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't have > > thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. Because > > of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the thyroid. By > > the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes the problem. > > Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to take thyroid > > meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen rather than > > Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of a hormone you > > gotta have. > > > > Take the Armour! > > > > -- > > moderator > > > > On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Leza, > > > > > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be > > > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > > > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > > > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the > > > Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you can > > > be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not to be > > > adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as soon as > > > possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when your > > > thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm all > > > for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone > > > replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward > > > healing. > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral > > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I > > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry skin, > > > little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as well as > > > frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop of a hat. > > > I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never eat and get > > > consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and have been > > > tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr last week and > > > got a really huge work up and requested all the thyroids and hormone > > > panels. Here is my thyroid > > > > > > T4 5.3 > > > T4, Free 0.78 > > > T3 81 > > > TSH 7.92 > > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for > > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it or > > > just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour if I > > > can fix it without. Advice PLEASE! > > > > > > Leza Heed -AngieHive mind level 5 worker: Honey producer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 In that case, HC is definitely an option if Isocort doesn't work for you. HC in physiological doses is safe. It's just replacing what your body is supposed to be making anyway. Another option is the circadian T3 protocol as describes in his book " Recovering with T3: My Journey from Hypothyroidism to Good Health Using the T3 Thyroid Hormone " . Many have found that the timing of dosing that he uses has helped their adrenals. Some have also have had success using is timing with NTH. in NS, Canada At 06:22 PM 12/02/12, you wrote: Mine are definitely low on the saliva test. On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:59 PM, wrote: Personally, I would not take Isocort or HC without KNOWING I had low cortisol from a 4x per day saliva test. For general adrenal support, I would use an adaptogenic herb such as ashwagandha or rhodiola. in NS, Canada At 05:23 PM 12/02/12, you wrote: >I personally used Isocort until I didn't need it any more. My >acupuncturist/ND prescribed just >1-2 pellets per day for me, although the label says up to 8. > >Some adrenal-educated folks, and some iodine list members, say that >Isocort isn't strong >enough to do the healing needed. Some say that HC is going to be needed >so why bother >with Isocort. However, Isocort cured it f! or me. Personally I'd rather >give Isocort, a whole- >extract, a chance before going to a refined product. > >But people say that HC is safe and effective, so it's really up to you and >what you know >about your own body/systems. I'm super sensitive, which can be a real >hassle, but one >upside is that I tend to respond to smaller doses of things. Certainly >that was true for >Isocort. > >-- >moderator > > > > , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement > > is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than > > hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, Angie > > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote: > > > > > > The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the > > person has been sick a long time. Rather t! han fixating on " fixing " the > > thyroid, it's better to giv e your body the thyroid hormone you need. > > The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't have > > thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. Because > > of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the thyroid. By > > the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes the problem. > > Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to take thyroid > > meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen rather than > > Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of a hormone you > > gotta have. > > > > Take the Armour! > > > > -- > > moderator > > > > On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Leza, > > > > > > Your doctor is exactly c! orrect that your levels are very low. Be > > > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > > > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > > > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the > > > Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you can > > > be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not to be > > > adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as soon as > > > possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when your > > > thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm all > > > for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone > > > replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward > > > healing. > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > ! > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral > > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I > > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry skin, > > > little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as well as > > > frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop of a hat. > > > I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never eat and get > > > consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and have been > > > tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr last week and > > > got a really huge work up and requested all the thyroids and hormone > > > panels. Here is my thyroid > > > > > & ! gt; T4 5.3 > > > T4, Free 0.78 > > > T3 81 > > > TSH 7.92 > > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for > > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it or > > > just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour if I > > > can fix it without. Advice PLEASE! > > > > > > Leza Heed -Angie Hive mind level 5 worker: Honey producer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 HC is not the same as prednisone. Predinose is the " steroid " that is given for inflammation. But I haven't had to look at taking it myself, so no, I can't say that I personally am utterly convinced about it. I know Gracia takes HC, or did, and is very supportive about it. But since you want to start Isocort just start with that anyway and see where it takes you. -- On 12 Feb 2012 at 16:31, Totten wrote: > > > > THANK YOU, . Do you really think HC is safe? I've always heard > hydrocortisone is a big no-no, at least for dealing with things like > inflammation. Maybe it's different when it's directly for the adrenal > glands? I'm giving Isocort a try first, but want to know if I can keep > my options open or if Isocort is IT. -Angie > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Baker wrote: > > > I personally used Isocort until I didn't need it any more. My > acupuncturist/ND prescribed just 1-2 pellets per day for me, although > the label says up to 8. > > Some adrenal-educated folks, and some iodine list members, say that > Isocort isn't strong enough to do the healing needed. Some say that HC > is going to be needed so why bother with Isocort. However, Isocort > cured it for me. Personally I'd rather give Isocort, a whole- extract, > a chance before going to a refined product. > > But people say that HC is safe and effective, so it's really up to you > and what you know about your own body/systems. I'm super sensitive, > which can be a real hassle, but one upside is that I tend to respond > to smaller doses of things. Certainly that was true for Isocort. > > -- > moderator > > > , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement > > is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than > > hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, Angie > > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote: > > > > > > The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the > > person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on " fixing " > > the thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you > > need. The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't > > have thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. > > Because of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the > > thyroid. By the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes > > the problem. Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to > > take thyroid meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen > > rather than Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of > > a hormone you gotta have. > > > > Take the Armour! > > > > -- > > moderator > > > > On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Leza, > > > > > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be > > > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > > > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > > > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the > > > Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you > > > can be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not > > > to be adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as > > > soon as possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when > > > your thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm > > > all for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone > > > replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward > > > healing. > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral > > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I > > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry > > > skin, little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as > > > well as frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop > > > of a hat. I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never > > > eat and get consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and > > > have been tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr > > > last week and got a really huge work up and requested all the > > > thyroids and hormone panels. Here is my thyroid > > > > > > T4 5.3 > > > T4, Free 0.78 > > > T3 81 > > > TSH 7.92 > > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for > > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it > > > or just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour > > > if I can fix it without. Advice PLEASE! > > > > > > Leza Heed > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thanks, everyone. So you gained weight on the HC.... is that the experience people often have when they go on adrenal support? I ask because my weight ballooned 30 lbs in 3 months when I started Isocort... but at the same time, my iron plummeted and so did my thyroid. I am hearing conflicting messages. My ND says people can gain weight when they start adrenal therapy, the people on the adrenal group say no. Since my thyroid is still low and iron is low too, I'm leaning toward blaming it on the thyroid rather than the adrenal, but if anybody has any insight into this, it would be appreciated. I'm poised to increase my Isocort and am worried about gaining more weight. My thyroid meds have been increased but thyroid is still in the low range.Also.... do you think there might be a connection between going on the adrenal stuff and the plummet in thyroid, iron, and also selenium, actually? The adrenal folks say supporting the adrenals will help the thyroid meds get to the cells, so not to worry, but wondering what you guys think. -AngieOn Feb 12, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Buist, ND HC wrote: I took HC for a few months when my adrenals were really bad due to stress of my dad being in ICU and then having to remove him from the vent and him dying. It was really hard and it was what propped me up. I gained weight on it so I quit - even though it worked well. I used an adrenal glandular - Biotics Research Cytozyme AD and that worked for me. Never took Isocort. Buist, ND HC Re: Thyroid levels HC is not the same as prednisone. Predinose is the "steroid" that is given for inflammation. But I haven't had to look at taking it myself, so no, I can't say that I personally am utterly convinced about it. I know Gracia takes HC, or did, and is very supportive about it. But since you want to start Isocort just start with that anyway and see where it takes you.--On 12 Feb 2012 at 16:31, Totten wrote:> > > > THANK YOU, . Do you really think HC is safe? I've always heard> hydrocortisone is a big no-no, at least for dealing with things like> inflammation. Maybe it's different when it's directly for the adrenal> glands? I'm giving Isocort a try first, but want to know if I can keep> my options open or if Isocort is IT. -Angie> > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Baker wrote:> > > I personally used Isocort until I didn't need it any more. My> acupuncturist/ND prescribed just 1-2 pellets per day for me, although> the label says up to 8. > > Some adrenal-educated folks, and some iodine list members, say that> Isocort isn't strong enough to do the healing needed. Some say that HC> is going to be needed so why bother with Isocort. However, Isocort> cured it for me. Personally I'd rather give Isocort, a whole- extract,> a chance before going to a refined product.> > But people say that HC is safe and effective, so it's really up to you> and what you know about your own body/systems. I'm super sensitive,> which can be a real hassle, but one upside is that I tend to respond> to smaller doses of things. Certainly that was true for Isocort.> > --> moderator> > > , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement> > is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than> > hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, Angie> > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote:> > > > > > The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the> > person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on "fixing"> > the thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you> > need. The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't> > have thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power.> > Because of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the> > thyroid. By the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes> > the problem. Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to> > take thyroid meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen> > rather than Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of> > a hormone you gotta have.> > > > Take the Armour!> > > > --> > moderator> > > > On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Leza,> > > > > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be> > > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4> > > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your> > > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the> > > Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you> > > can be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not> > > to be adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as> > > soon as possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when> > > your thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm> > > all for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone> > > replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward> > > healing.> > > > > > in Alaska> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote:> > > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral> > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I> > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry> > > skin, little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as> > > well as frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop> > > of a hat. I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never> > > eat and get consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and> > > have been tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr> > > last week and got a really huge work up and requested all the> > > thyroids and hormone panels. Here is my thyroid> > > > > > T4 5.3> > > T4, Free 0.78> > > T3 81> > > TSH 7.92> > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for> > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it> > > or just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour> > > if I can fix it without. Advice PLEASE!> > > > > > Leza Heed> > > > > > -AngieHive mind level 5 worker: Honey producer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thanks. I'm just so skittish about steroids (although I'm taking progesterone... isn't that technically a steroid?). I try to approach medicine as holistically and naturally as possible. Thanks, everyone. -AOn Feb 12, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Baker wrote: HC is not the same as prednisone. Predinose is the "steroid" that is given for inflammation. But I haven't had to look at taking it myself, so no, I can't say that I personally am utterly convinced about it. I know Gracia takes HC, or did, and is very supportive about it. But since you want to start Isocort just start with that anyway and see where it takes you. -- On 12 Feb 2012 at 16:31, Totten wrote: > > > > THANK YOU, . Do you really think HC is safe? I've always heard > hydrocortisone is a big no-no, at least for dealing with things like > inflammation. Maybe it's different when it's directly for the adrenal > glands? I'm giving Isocort a try first, but want to know if I can keep > my options open or if Isocort is IT. -Angie > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Baker wrote: > > > I personally used Isocort until I didn't need it any more. My > acupuncturist/ND prescribed just 1-2 pellets per day for me, although > the label says up to 8. > > Some adrenal-educated folks, and some iodine list members, say that > Isocort isn't strong enough to do the healing needed. Some say that HC > is going to be needed so why bother with Isocort. However, Isocort > cured it for me. Personally I'd rather give Isocort, a whole- extract, > a chance before going to a refined product. > > But people say that HC is safe and effective, so it's really up to you > and what you know about your own body/systems. I'm super sensitive, > which can be a real hassle, but one upside is that I tend to respond > to smaller doses of things. Certainly that was true for Isocort. > > -- > moderator > > > , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement > > is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than > > hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, Angie > > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote: > > > > > > The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the > > person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on "fixing" > > the thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you > > need. The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't > > have thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power. > > Because of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the > > thyroid. By the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes > > the problem. Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to > > take thyroid meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen > > rather than Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of > > a hormone you gotta have. > > > > Take the Armour! > > > > -- > > moderator > > > > On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Leza, > > > > > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be > > > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4 > > > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your > > > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the > > > Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you > > > can be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not > > > to be adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as > > > soon as possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when > > > your thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm > > > all for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone > > > replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward > > > healing. > > > > > > in Alaska > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote: > > > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral > > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I > > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry > > > skin, little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as > > > well as frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop > > > of a hat. I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never > > > eat and get consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and > > > have been tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr > > > last week and got a really huge work up and requested all the > > > thyroids and hormone panels. Here is my thyroid > > > > > > T4 5.3 > > > T4, Free 0.78 > > > T3 81 > > > TSH 7.92 > > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for > > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it > > > or just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour > > > if I can fix it without. Advice PLEASE! > > > > > > Leza Heed > > > > > > -AngieHive mind level 5 worker: Honey producer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would give a couple of other things a try also. Amino acids can be a huge help, Metagenics Ultra Clear PH would provide those and also be beneficial for the liver and kidneys. Vitacost or Pure Prescriptions usually has the best price. Would also highly recommend juicing, beets, carrots, greens (kale or anything dark green), cucumbers, celery, and apple for sweetness if you want. Excellent for the liver and kidneys. Personally I think other issues should be addressed first prior to starting adrenal supplements like HC. If you can't juice then I'd recommend taking Nanogreens, www.fit4maui.com. Linn > > > > > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral > > > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I > > > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry > > > > skin, little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as > > > > well as frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop > > > > of a hat. I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never > > > > eat and get consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and > > > > have been tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr > > > > last week and got a really huge work up and requested all the > > > > thyroids and hormone panels. Here is my thyroid > > > > > > > > T4 5.3 > > > > T4, Free 0.78 > > > > T3 81 > > > > TSH 7.92 > > > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for > > > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it > > > > or just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour > > > > if I can fix it without. Advice PLEASE! > > > > > > > > Leza Heed > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Only HC made me gain weight. The adrenal glandular I took did not. Buist, ND HC Re: Thyroid levels HC is not the same as prednisone. Predinose is the "steroid" that is given for inflammation. But I haven't had to look at taking it myself, so no, I can't say that I personally am utterly convinced about it. I know Gracia takes HC, or did, and is very supportive about it. But since you want to start Isocort just start with that anyway and see where it takes you.--On 12 Feb 2012 at 16:31, Totten wrote:> > > > THANK YOU, . Do you really think HC is safe? I've always heard> hydrocortisone is a big no-no, at least for dealing with things like> inflammation. Maybe it's different when it's directly for the adrenal> glands? I'm giving Isocort a try first, but want to know if I can keep> my options open or if Isocort is IT. -Angie> > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Baker wrote:> > > I personally used Isocort until I didn't need it any more. My> acupuncturist/ND prescribed just 1-2 pellets per day for me, although> the label says up to 8. > > Some adrenal-educated folks, and some iodine list members, say that> Isocort isn't strong enough to do the healing needed. Some say that HC> is going to be needed so why bother with Isocort. However, Isocort> cured it for me. Personally I'd rather give Isocort, a whole- extract,> a chance before going to a refined product.> > But people say that HC is safe and effective, so it's really up to you> and what you know about your own body/systems. I'm super sensitive,> which can be a real hassle, but one upside is that I tend to respond> to smaller doses of things. Certainly that was true for Isocort.> > --> moderator> > > , do you have an opinion on which type of adrenal supplement> > is best? Is a natural adrenal supp (like Isocort) better than> > hydrocortisone, for example? Thanks, Angie> > > > On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Baker wrote:> > > > > > The problem is that by the time the thyroid function is bad, the> > person has been sick a long time. Rather than fixating on "fixing"> > the thyroid, it's better to give your body the thyroid hormone you> > need. The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism and if you don't> > have thyroid, you don't have energy and you don't have brain power.> > Because of its centrality, the body tries very hard to protect the> > thyroid. By the time it's gone bad, it's very rare that iodine fixes> > the problem. Sometimes iodine does, but most often, people need to> > take thyroid meds for life. I'm big on natural thyroid replacemen> > rather than Synthroid. It's not a drug, it's simply a replacement of> > a hormone you gotta have.> > > > Take the Armour!> > > > --> > moderator> > > > On 11 Feb 2012 at 21:14, Hidden Jewel wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Leza,> > > > > > Your doctor is exactly correct that your levels are very low. Be> > > thankful that you have a doctor who would prescribe a T3/T4> > > replacement. Start the Armour!!!!! You can work on supporting your> > > thyroid with nutrients at the same time. But get started on the> > > Armour so that your thyroid levels can get to a place where you> > > can be healthy. It is hard on your body for thyroid function not> > > to be adequate. You want to eliminate the drag on your system as> > > soon as possible. And let me tell you, it is a great feeling when> > > your thyroid levels get balanced out. It is like life returns. I'm> > > all for solving the root issue but there are times when hormone> > > replacement is essential to give your body a jump start toward> > > healing.> > > > > > in Alaska> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, leza <lezam7777@...> wrote:> > > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral> > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I> > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry> > > skin, little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as> > > well as frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop> > > of a hat. I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never> > > eat and get consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and> > > have been tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr> > > last week and got a really huge work up and requested all the> > > thyroids and hormone panels. Here is my thyroid> > > > > > T4 5.3> > > T4, Free 0.78> > > T3 81> > > TSH 7.92> > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for> > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it> > > or just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour> > > if I can fix it without. Advice PLEASE!> > > > > > Leza Heed> > > > > > -Angie Hive mind level 5 worker: Honey producer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Linn, If you wanted to go to IodineOT and talk to me about juicing -- for example, what are the pros & cons of which juicers, where else to go for more info on cleansing -- that would be great. Thanks, in Nashville > > > > > > > > > > I am very confused on this subject. I have been taking 2 iodoral > > > > > daily for about 6 months as well as every companion supplement. I > > > > > have long thought I had thyroid problems. I have dry hair, dry > > > > > skin, little crusty type patches on my skin, horrible nails as > > > > > well as frequent constipation. I am also moody and cry at the drop > > > > > of a hat. I also suffer from being cold a lot. I feel like I never > > > > > eat and get consistently bigger. I have thought this for years and > > > > > have been tested and told my thyroid is normal. I went to the dr > > > > > last week and got a really huge work up and requested all the > > > > > thyroids and hormone panels. Here is my thyroid > > > > > > > > > > T4 5.3 > > > > > T4, Free 0.78 > > > > > T3 81 > > > > > TSH 7.92 > > > > > My Dr said my thyroid was extremely low and gave me an RX for > > > > > Armour. I need advice or links to see if I should start taking it > > > > > or just raise my iodine further. I don't want to start the Armour > > > > > if I can fix it without. Advice PLEASE! > > > > > > > > > > Leza Heed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Certainly progesterone is a steroid, and so is estrogen a steroid. Animal/human steroids are hormones derived from cholesterol. Period. BTW, statins are drugs used to lower cholesterol (and derivative steroids) throughout the body.. This explains how statins shorten people's lives -- especially women's lives -- according to the W.H.O.- U.N. statistics from around the world. See the charts - http://www.spacedoc.com/obesity_cholesterol_death_rates_2 Bill --- At 12:58 PM 13 02 2012, Totten wrote: > >Thanks. I'm just so skittish about steroids (although I'm taking progesterone... isn't that technically a steroid?). I try to approach medicine as holistically and naturally as possible. Thanks, everyone. -A > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Why didn't anyone recommend pregnonelone for low adrenals like it was recommended to me? Is Isocort better or hydrocortisone than pregnonelone, what is the difference? Thanks Joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Pregnenolone and DHEA are not supplements to just take. They control sex hormones and must be monitored. You should test Pregnenolone and DHEA levels before supplementing. Buist, ND HC Re: Thyroid levels Why didn't anyone recommend pregnonelone for low adrenals like it was recommended to me? Is Isocort better or hydrocortisone than pregnonelone, what is the difference? Thanks Joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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