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Hi Virginia,

Basically, Niacinamide, while useful for treating osteoarthritis, doesn't have

the same vasodialating, or blood-vessel widening, effects, that niacin has.

Because of the flush it's recommended that you start out slow and build up. This

is a good site that will explain everything:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/niacin.html

You can find niacin on line. To start out low just type in 50mg niacin. It's

very inexpensive. Carlson labs is good. Just be sure to NOT get what's called

the no-flush niacin as that won't have the effect you want. You can also get it

in 25mg but I would just cut the 50mg. tabs in half to start out with. And

always take it after a meal. Have fun - it can be quite an experience, but don't

let the flush scare you.

Best,

Dee

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> No, she didn't tell me that. Does the niacinamide do the same thing as the

> niacin? Where do you get it?

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I would say get off carbs except non starchy vegetables. When you go on a

lower carb

Regimen, your Triglycerides go down.

Do some research online, there is tons of information out there. Be sure

to

Look for natural help instead of drugs.

k

-- Re: Cholesterol

<<I'm recently diagnosed Type II Diabetic. My latest labs show my

cholesterol to be Triglycerides are 458 and HDL is 35. The report says it

can't accurately calculate my LDL because the Triglycerides are so high. The

doc wants me on 2000mg/day of niacin and gave me a script for Gemfibrozil

600mg/day.

I know there's some debate about cholesterol and triglycerides. Is there

something natural I can do to get these numbers more in line with what's

considered normal?>>

I don't know about Diabetes and Cholesterol , seems to go together,

I have CAD and supposed to be on Cholesterol meds, which I do not take , I

managed to get my triglycerides down to 77 and HDL up to 62

( Ratio 4.2) with diet and exercise , I work out 7 days a week en ear 4 tbs

of coconut oil daily.

There is a herbal remedy called Cholestin , Red yeast Rice, there is

another product , can't think of it right now

Edy

Edy Dykstra-Blum

Bizzeeboots Old English Sheepdogs

bizzeeboots@...

www.gbwebs.com/bizzeeboots

<http://www.shopperseldorado.com>

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How long did you use it before you saw results Edy?

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Edy

Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:32 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Cholesterol

Virhginia , I found the other product.

Years ago I used to take this and works real well

http://www.nuturaproducts.com/cholestolgold.html

Edy

Edy Dykstra-Blum

Bizzeeboots Old English Sheepdogs

bizzeeboots@... <mailto:bizzeeboots%40gbwebs.com>

www.gbwebs.com/bizzeeboots

<http://www.shopperseldorado.com>

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I used this for about 6 weeks and of course on a very strict diet , and had

bloodwork done and cholesterol was in " safe range " .( this was about 12

years ago)

Also Exercise is very important , my best friend in Holland just has been

through all of this , she had a heart attack and was diagnosed with Diabetes

II , she does not tolerate any statin drugs .

If you want any more info , e-mail me privately and I'll ask my friend to

send me some tips and idea's for you

Edy

Edy Dykstra-Blum

Bizzeeboots Old English Sheepdogs

bizzeeboots@...

www.gbwebs.com/bizzeeboots

<http://www.shopperseldorado.com>

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I was diagnosed type 2 nearly 20 years ago and up until 3/4 years ago I was

in bad shape on an insulin pump (150 units per day) and maxed out on meds

and I was just getting worse. Cholesterol was 'way bad' in spite of max

doses of statins.

Then I quit and adopted a Low Carb High Fat regime. Within 3 months I was

off my insulin pump, 3 moths later I was off my meds. My cholesterol is now

as good as it can get. I'm 66 now and my BP is 130/70 my blood sugar levels

are those of a non diabetic.

It's simple really - what makes me mad is that no one told me about this 20

years ago but of course there is no money in healthy people.

/G.

2011/4/28 Edy <bizzeeboots@...>

> I used this for about 6 weeks and of course on a very strict diet , and

> had

> bloodwork done and cholesterol was in " safe range " .( this was about 12

> years ago)

>

> Also Exercise is very important , my best friend in Holland just has been

> through all of this , she had a heart attack and was diagnosed with

> Diabetes

> II , she does not tolerate any statin drugs .

>

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> If you want any more info , e-mail me privately and I'll ask my friend to

> send me some tips and idea's for you

>

>

>

> Edy

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> Edy Dykstra-Blum

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> Bizzeeboots Old English Sheepdogs

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> bizzeeboots@...

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> www.gbwebs.com/bizzeeboots

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> <http://www.shopperseldorado.com>

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I like your name " Old Grumpy " . Lol

It should read " happy " . That's great news/better late

Than never. Awesome testimony for low carb woe.

Did you take any supplements? Or do this basically from

Eating. Thanks for sharing

k

-- Re: Re: Cholesterol

I was diagnosed type 2 nearly 20 years ago and up until 3/4 years ago I was

in bad shape on an insulin pump (150 units per day) and maxed out on meds

and I was just getting worse. Cholesterol was 'way bad' in spite of max

doses of statins.

Then I quit and adopted a Low Carb High Fat regime. Within 3 months I was

off my insulin pump, 3 moths later I was off my meds. My cholesterol is now

as good as it can get. I'm 66 now and my BP is 130/70 my blood sugar levels

are those of a non diabetic.

It's simple really - what makes me mad is that no one told me about this 20

years ago but of course there is no money in healthy people.

/G.

2011/4/28 Edy <bizzeeboots@...>

> I used this for about 6 weeks and of course on a very strict diet , and

> had

> bloodwork done and cholesterol was in " safe range " .( this was about 12

> years ago)

>

> Also Exercise is very important , my best friend in Holland just has been

> through all of this , she had a heart attack and was diagnosed with

> Diabetes

> II , she does not tolerate any statin drugs .

>

>

>

> If you want any more info , e-mail me privately and I'll ask my friend to

> send me some tips and idea's for you

>

>

>

> Edy

>

> Edy Dykstra-Blum

>

> Bizzeeboots Old English Sheepdogs

>

> bizzeeboots@...

>

> www.gbwebs.com/bizzeeboots

>

> <http://www.shopperseldorado.com>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear ,

I'm Swedish and Gubbe means 'Old Bloke' so Grumpy Old bloke seemed

appropriate at the time;-)

When it became apparent to me that the establishment was not helping I

became very disillusioned. To this day I cannot understand the powers that

motivate the collusion between the establishment, government policy and the

monetary power of the pharmaceutical industry. Obviously there is a money

motivation for the individuals involved and therein lies the motivation to

keep people ill and promote expensive chemical products mostly in pill form

which nonetheless are derived from nature anyway. The morality and ethics

involved could well be the next war concerning the greedy collusion of the

tiny percentage of rich people who control our lives. French revolution?

Sorry, I digress and I rant. Here's the thing. Having done the LCHF wol the

first year I was totally amazed by my improved health and loss of weight as

indeed was my doctor. My diabetes nurse just got angry as I was doing the

opposite of everything she had been told and exclaimed that I would become

seriously ill if I continued - that was at least 3 years ago and I feel

great! I also found that I could indulge a taste or two of a midsummer new

potato or some dark chocolat and other treats without it efecting my BS

levels, so now I am on a sort of relaxed LCHF regime but maintaining my

weight loss and my blood sugar levels - without medication.

This LCHF regime has resulted in me now never being hungry - wierd. I have

my routines, Bacon, Eggs, and the occasional tomato for breakfast. I must

admit that then that's it sometimes it for the day - but I'm just not hungry

so why stuff my face? I used to weigh 130 kilos, I'm only 5'5 " so that was a

lot, now and I weigh a steady 82 kilos though as I get older I have decided

to lose a bit more I will go down to 75 before next winter - that's the plan

anyway. All my blood work results are great and my blood pressure is 130/70

which I'm told is good all things considered.

Well, heres the thing. If anybody reading this is not feeling too good then

give it a go- it's a doddle compared with stopping smoking or whatever and

you will feel results in just a few days.

I take vitamin D supplements because I don't get much sun up here and I

enjoy my home made wine and moonshine.

My improved health is based on simple logic. If we are to accept the theory

of evolution then we have evolved chronologically which means that it's

about 5 seconds before midnight evolutionary wise. Less than a minute ago we

discovered how to grow grain which filled our tummies and meant we didn't

have to charge around hunting and gathering. The problem is that we don't do

very well on fast carbohydrates as indeed our farm animals don't either.

It's just fact.

Here are a few sites expanding on the theme:

Prof Feinmans blogg:

Feinman<http://rdfeinman.wordpress.com/>

..

Taubes blog <http://www.garytaubes.com/blog/>. Startad i dec 2010

Eat Wild. Scientific References <http://www.eatwild.com/references.html>

The Heart Scan Blog <http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/> Dr

Instead of Mom <http://www.insteadofmom.com/> Lotta Byström

Weight of the Evidence <http://weightoftheevidence.wordpress.com/> Regina

Wilshire's blog

Barry Groves

<http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/>

Dr Mercola <http://www.mercola.com/>

Dr Vernon's blog <http://rjr10036.typepad.com/askdrvernon/>

Kwasnievski Optimal

Nutrition<http://ahoa.org.au/optimal_nutrition/optimal/optimal_nutrition.html>

Livin' la vida locarb <http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/>- blogg

LCHF <http://lowcarbhighfat-sandra.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post.html>, en

finsk blogg på engelska

LCHF - A Way of Life

<http://annikadahlqvistblogenglish.blogspot.com/>beth ssons

översättning av min blogg

LCHF.de <http://www.lchf.de/> En LCHF-sida på tyska

En spansk LCHF-blogg <http://lchf-dietasueca.blogspot.com/>

LC South Africa <http://www.lowcarbsa.co.za/> Deon van der Merwes sida

Hyperlipid <http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/> 's blog

The Omnivore - The great Cholesterol Con<http://www.thegreatcholesterolcon.com/>

Weston a Price <http://www.westonaprice.org/index.html>

Vegetarian Lowcarb <http://immuneweb.org/lowcarb/>

Dr Briffas blog <http://www.drbriffa.com/blog>

Nutrition & Metabolism <http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/home>

D-solve en undervisningssajt på engelska <http://www.dsolve.com/> om

diabetes och LCHF

Diabetes without complications <http://www.survivediabetes.com/>

Lowcarbportal <http://www.lowcarbportal.com/>

Junkfood Science <http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/>

Diabetes-diet.org.uk <http://www.diabetes-diet.org.uk/>

Best wishes

/G.

2011/4/28 K <kamako@...>

> I like your name " Old Grumpy " . Lol

> It should read " happy " . That's great news/better late

> Than never. Awesome testimony for low carb woe.

> Did you take any supplements? Or do this basically from

> Eating. Thanks for sharing

> k

>

>

>

>

> -- Re: Re: Cholesterol

>

> I was diagnosed type 2 nearly 20 years ago and up until 3/4 years ago I was

> in bad shape on an insulin pump (150 units per day) and maxed out on meds

> and I was just getting worse. Cholesterol was 'way bad' in spite of max

> doses of statins.

>

> Then I quit and adopted a Low Carb High Fat regime. Within 3 months I was

> off my insulin pump, 3 moths later I was off my meds. My cholesterol is now

> as good as it can get. I'm 66 now and my BP is 130/70 my blood sugar levels

> are those of a non diabetic.

>

> It's simple really - what makes me mad is that no one told me about this 20

> years ago but of course there is no money in healthy people.

>

> /G.

>

> 2011/4/28 Edy <bizzeeboots@...>

>

> > I used this for about 6 weeks and of course on a very strict diet , and

> > had

> > bloodwork done and cholesterol was in " safe range " .( this was about 12

> > years ago)

> >

> > Also Exercise is very important , my best friend in Holland just has been

> > through all of this , she had a heart attack and was diagnosed with

> > Diabetes

> > II , she does not tolerate any statin drugs .

> >

> >

> >

> > If you want any more info , e-mail me privately and I'll ask my friend to

> > send me some tips and idea's for you

> >

> >

> >

> > Edy

> >

> > Edy Dykstra-Blum

> >

> > Bizzeeboots Old English Sheepdogs

> >

> > bizzeeboots@...

> >

> > www.gbwebs.com/bizzeeboots

> >

> > <http://www.shopperseldorado.com>

> >

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Wow, there's a " couple " links there. Lol

I am thrilled To read your testimony. Thanks for sharing.

I will keep these links as well for future references and learning.

k

-- Re: Re: Cholesterol

>

> I was diagnosed type 2 nearly 20 years ago and up until 3/4 years ago I

was

> in bad shape on an insulin pump (150 units per day) and maxed out on meds

> and I was just getting worse. Cholesterol was 'way bad' in spite of max

> doses of statins.

>

> Then I quit and adopted a Low Carb High Fat regime. Within 3 months I was

> off my insulin pump, 3 moths later I was off my meds. My cholesterol is

now

> as good as it can get. I'm 66 now and my BP is 130/70 my blood sugar

levels

> are those of a non diabetic.

>

> It's simple really - what makes me mad is that no one told me about this

20

> years ago but of course there is no money in healthy people.

>

> /G.

>

> 2011/4/28 Edy <bizzeeboots@...>

>

> > I used this for about 6 weeks and of course on a very strict diet , and

> > had

> > bloodwork done and cholesterol was in " safe range " .( this was about 12

> > years ago)

> >

> > Also Exercise is very important , my best friend in Holland just has

been

> > through all of this , she had a heart attack and was diagnosed with

> > Diabetes

> > II , she does not tolerate any statin drugs .

> >

> >

> >

> > If you want any more info , e-mail me privately and I'll ask my friend

to

> > send me some tips and idea's for you

> >

> >

> >

> > Edy

> >

> > Edy Dykstra-Blum

> >

> > Bizzeeboots Old English Sheepdogs

> >

> > bizzeeboots@...

> >

> > www.gbwebs.com/bizzeeboots

> >

> > <http://www.shopperseldorado.com>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I propose those links be put in the forum database, however that is done. Thanks

for the resources!

Weldon

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On Apr 28, 2011 9:35 PM, K <kamako@...> wrote:

Wow, there's a " couple " links there. Lol

I am thrilled To read your testimony. Thanks for sharing.

I will keep these links as well for future references and learning.

k

-- Re: Re: Cholesterol

>

> I was diagnosed type 2 nearly 20 years ago and up until 3/4 years ago I

was

> in bad shape on an insulin pump (150 units per day) and maxed out on meds

> and I was just getting worse. Cholesterol was 'way bad' in spite of max

> doses of statins.

>

> Then I quit and adopted a Low Carb High Fat regime. Within 3 months I was

> off my insulin pump, 3 moths later I was off my meds. My cholesterol is

now

> as good as it can get. I'm 66 now and my BP is 130/70 my blood sugar

levels

> are those of a non diabetic.

>

> It's simple really - what makes me mad is that no one told me about this

20

> years ago but of course there is no money in healthy people.

>

> /G.

>

> 2011/4/28 Edy <bizzeeboots@...<mailto:bizzeeboots%40gbwebs.com>>

>

> > I used this for about 6 weeks and of course on a very strict diet , and

> > had

> > bloodwork done and cholesterol was in " safe range " .( this was about 12

> > years ago)

> >

> > Also Exercise is very important , my best friend in Holland just has

been

> > through all of this , she had a heart attack and was diagnosed with

> > Diabetes

> > II , she does not tolerate any statin drugs .

> >

> >

> >

> > If you want any more info , e-mail me privately and I'll ask my friend

to

> > send me some tips and idea's for you

> >

> >

> >

> > Edy

> >

> > Edy Dykstra-Blum

> >

> > Bizzeeboots Old English Sheepdogs

> >

> > bizzeeboots@...<mailto:bizzeeboots%40gbwebs.com>

> >

> > www.gbwebs.com/bizzeeboots

> >

> > <http://www.shopperseldorado.com>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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great story, grumpy

I appreciate the website links -- good info. many thanks

elaine

>

> Dear ,

>

> I'm Swedish and Gubbe means 'Old Bloke' so Grumpy Old bloke seemed

> appropriate at the time;-)

>

> When it became apparent to me that the establishment was not helping I

> became very disillusioned. To this day I cannot understand the powers that

> motivate the collusion between the establishment, government policy and the

> monetary power of the pharmaceutical industry. Obviously there is a money

> motivation for the individuals involved and therein lies the motivation to

> keep people ill and promote expensive chemical products mostly in pill form

> which nonetheless are derived from nature anyway. The morality and ethics

> involved could well be the next war concerning the greedy collusion of the

> tiny percentage of rich people who control our lives. French revolution?

>

> Sorry, I digress and I rant. Here's the thing. Having done the LCHF wol the

> first year I was totally amazed by my improved health and loss of weight as

> indeed was my doctor. My diabetes nurse just got angry as I was doing the

> opposite of everything she had been told and exclaimed that I would become

> seriously ill if I continued - that was at least 3 years ago and I feel

> great! I also found that I could indulge a taste or two of a midsummer new

> potato or some dark chocolat and other treats without it efecting my BS

> levels, so now I am on a sort of relaxed LCHF regime but maintaining my

> weight loss and my blood sugar levels - without medication.

>

> This LCHF regime has resulted in me now never being hungry - wierd. I have

> my routines, Bacon, Eggs, and the occasional tomato for breakfast. I must

> admit that then that's it sometimes it for the day - but I'm just not hungry

> so why stuff my face? I used to weigh 130 kilos, I'm only 5'5 " so that was a

> lot, now and I weigh a steady 82 kilos though as I get older I have decided

> to lose a bit more I will go down to 75 before next winter - that's the plan

> anyway. All my blood work results are great and my blood pressure is 130/70

> which I'm told is good all things considered.

>

> Well, heres the thing. If anybody reading this is not feeling too good then

> give it a go- it's a doddle compared with stopping smoking or whatever and

> you will feel results in just a few days.

>

> I take vitamin D supplements because I don't get much sun up here and I

> enjoy my home made wine and moonshine.

>

> My improved health is based on simple logic. If we are to accept the theory

> of evolution then we have evolved chronologically which means that it's

> about 5 seconds before midnight evolutionary wise. Less than a minute ago we

> discovered how to grow grain which filled our tummies and meant we didn't

> have to charge around hunting and gathering. The problem is that we don't do

> very well on fast carbohydrates as indeed our farm animals don't either.

> It's just fact.

>

> Here are a few sites expanding on the theme:

>

> Prof Feinmans blogg:

> Feinman<http://rdfeinman.wordpress.com/>

> .

>

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