cholesterol

[Guest guest]

,

Before you let your doctor buly you to take the meds for the cholesterol,

educate yourself and then you can also educate your doctor. Cholesterol is a

myth, it is a nonexistant " problem " only making lots of money for big pharma.

Here is a link to a good site.

Barbara

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm

Hi! I've been taking coconut oil for about 2 months now and have been

enjoying increased energy, soft skin and weight loss. I was recently

diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and have quit smoking, and have lost

thirty pounds by eating healthy and exercising more.

Yesterday I received a call from my doctor's office telling me that my

bloodwork done several days ago shows that my cholesterol is high

(259) and my LDL is high also. I have never had a problem with

cholesterol and all of these readings were normal three months ago.

With all of my lifestyle changes, you would think the readings would

even be going down. My doctor has ordered me to stop taking my daily

2 tablespoons of coconut oil and wants to put me on Zocor...and I

don't want to do either.

I would appreciate your help!

[Guest guest]

In my opinion, your Dr. is full of baloney! I quit smoking, exercised daily,

lost weight and was able to stop my BP and Cholesterol medicines. Well, as a

matter of fact, I stopped them both on my own before going back to the Dr., but

my BP was good and my Cholesterol levels were better than ever without the

drugs! That was 10 years ago.....now I need to start my exercise program back

and lose that 30 pounds again, so I can get off the drugs again. Oh, and believe

this or not...my Cholesterol was 5,000 when I started the drugs for it in 1989.

I know it sounds unreal, but it IS true! Besides, I don't think 259 is high

enough to start taking the " bad for you " drugs. Only difference is that I am not

diabetic, so someone else may need to advise you on this. Just could not help

inserting my opinion!

My God I sit Beneath Thee

My Little Child Upon My Knee

My Little Child Looks Up To Me

And I Look Up To Thee

[Guest guest]

I have to agree with what someone else said.............. don't let your doctor

bully you. If need be find another doctor that is willing to work with you on

how you want things and not the other way around.

I had a doctor from 2001 until 2005 who was born in the middle east so he was

all up for my trying alternative meds for my Thyroid. They started me on

Synthroid and it seemed ok for a couple years until this stupid nurse was upping

my dose, mixing prescription up.............. I filed complaints and refused to

take those meds in 2004 because it just about killed me literally. I ended up

in emergency 3 different times thinking I was having a heart attack. I

stopped those meds and came online and started reading about Thyroids and found

out about Armour and VCO. I went back to my doctor and told him I wanted to

start using both and to give me a prescription for Armour which he did. His

nurse (different one) has a hissy fit.......................like I cared! I

actually threw her out of the doctors office and told her she was not my doctor.

Things went well and everything was in check with my using these. My

cholesterol level was normal so they told me, my Thyroid was also in check.

Unfortunately my doctor left to go back to school in Boston and has been gone

since summer of 2005. His replacement also is from the middle east and we got

along find. I just did not get along with the office manager and her refusal

to have access to our doctor when we wanted it so I filed against that practice

against her and the doctor. It seemed like it got solved but she started her

mess again last fall so I just up and left and found me another doctor.

I'm not sure of this one............. although he seems nice enough.............

and very progressive technology wise................ carries his laptop from

patient to patient and has registered via his website........... based on his

reaction to my alternative way of living I may end up with problems with him.

They ran blood test for my thyroid, liver, and such and I got a letter (not a

phone call) that my results were of the charts THIS TIME and he wants me to set

up an appointment to discuss my taking other type of meds which I am unwilling

to do. I have to admit that last year with the problems with that office

manager in with the other doctor that I did not follow my regime like l should

for the VCO but I did take my Armour everyday.

Anyway go with what you know feels right and works for you. I will never go

back to scientific meds for any medical condition I may ever have. I will

always seek and alternative way of healing myself.

I am not going back to this doctor until my next appointment which is May 7th.

I'm back on track with my VCO and Armour now. As for my cholesterol level it's

always been a tad high but due in part to my Thyroid problem. I was taking a

low dosage (can't remember what it was until my prescription ran out with the

other doctor) and that was in check back then. I now am trying Nature Made

Cholest Off which is suppose to lower cholesterol naturally.

I refuse to let any doctor bully me into taking Merck meds or any other

scientific unless they can prove to me that alternative and natural way of

healing works better and I haven't found any of them able to do that yet.

Carol

Hi! I've been taking coconut oil for about 2 months now and have been

enjoying increased energy, soft skin and weight loss. I was recently

diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and have quit smoking, and have lost

thirty pounds by eating healthy and exercising more.

Yesterday I received a call from my doctor's office telling me that my

bloodwork done several days ago shows that my cholesterol is high

(259) and my LDL is high also. I have never had a problem with

cholesterol and all of these readings were normal three months ago.

With all of my lifestyle changes, you would think the readings would

even be going down. My doctor has ordered me to stop taking my daily

2 tablespoons of coconut oil and wants to put me on Zocor...and I

don't want to do either.

I would appreciate your help!

.sal gnfisiing

[Guest guest]

Not telling you what you should do, but If I were in your position, I

would fire my doctor.

Alobar

On 3/2/07, jlta624 <jla2@...> wrote:

> Hi! I've been taking coconut oil for about 2 months now and have been

> enjoying increased energy, soft skin and weight loss. I was recently

> diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and have quit smoking, and have lost

> thirty pounds by eating healthy and exercising more.

>

> Yesterday I received a call from my doctor's office telling me that my

> bloodwork done several days ago shows that my cholesterol is high

> (259) and my LDL is high also. I have never had a problem with

> cholesterol and all of these readings were normal three months ago.

> With all of my lifestyle changes, you would think the readings would

> even be going down. My doctor has ordered me to stop taking my daily

> 2 tablespoons of coconut oil and wants to put me on Zocor...and I

> don't want to do either.

>

> I would appreciate your help!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with Alobar. I do have a question. What are your

numbers,exactly. What is the number for your HDL and what is your number

for your HDL. This makes a difference regardless of your cholesterol

total. With coconut oil, your HDL should rise, which is a good thing.

> > Hi! I've been taking coconut oil for about 2 months now and have

been

> > enjoying increased energy, soft skin and weight loss. I was recently

> > diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and have quit smoking, and have lost

> > thirty pounds by eating healthy and exercising more.

> >

> > Yesterday I received a call from my doctor's office telling me that

my

> > bloodwork done several days ago shows that my cholesterol is high

> > (259) and my LDL is high also. I have never had a problem with

> > cholesterol and all of these readings were normal three months ago.

> > With all of my lifestyle changes, you would think the readings would

> > even be going down. My doctor has ordered me to stop taking my daily

> > 2 tablespoons of coconut oil and wants to put me on Zocor...and I

> > don't want to do either.

> >

> > I would appreciate your help!

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think I remember reading -- Atkins or Eades ?? -- that your

cholesterol numbers can first increase then start lowering when

changing your diet (in their cases, to a low-carb diet) -- seems it

might be worth watching and observing your numbers for a spell of

time, perhaps several months??????? I'm NOT a doctor, this is just my

opinion...

> > > Hi! I've been taking coconut oil for about 2 months now and have

> been

> > > enjoying increased energy, soft skin and weight loss. I was

recently

> > > diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and have quit smoking, and have

lost

> > > thirty pounds by eating healthy and exercising more.

> > >

> > > Yesterday I received a call from my doctor's office telling me

that

> my

> > > bloodwork done several days ago shows that my cholesterol is

high

> > > (259) and my LDL is high also. I have never had a problem with

> > > cholesterol and all of these readings were normal three months

ago.

> > > With all of my lifestyle changes, you would think the readings

would

> > > even be going down. My doctor has ordered me to stop taking my

daily

> > > 2 tablespoons of coconut oil and wants to put me on Zocor...and

I

> > > don't want to do either.

> > >

> > > I would appreciate your help!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The only oils I use are flaxseed oil (don't ever heat) and coconut

oil. If you go on the Budwig diet and stick to it, it will solve all

your problems, it did for me. Just Google it for all the info you'll

need. Good luck.

[Guest guest]

High cholesterol had never been shown to be a health problem for

women.

> > Hi! I've been taking coconut oil for about 2 months now and

have been

> > enjoying increased energy, soft skin and weight loss. I was

recently

> > diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and have quit smoking, and have

lost

> > thirty pounds by eating healthy and exercising more.

> >

> > Yesterday I received a call from my doctor's office telling me

that my

> > bloodwork done several days ago shows that my cholesterol is high

> > (259) and my LDL is high also. I have never had a problem with

> > cholesterol and all of these readings were normal three months

ago.

> > With all of my lifestyle changes, you would think the readings

would

> > even be going down. My doctor has ordered me to stop taking my

daily

> > 2 tablespoons of coconut oil and wants to put me on Zocor...and I

> > don't want to do either.

> >

> > I would appreciate your help!

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I put flax seed in our home made bread... that's wrong, isn't it?

Health conscious people are now saying never to heat flax oil.

>

>

> The only oils I use are flaxseed oil (don't ever heat) and coconut

> oil. If you go on the Budwig diet and stick to it, it will solve all

> your problems, it did for me. Just Google it for all the info you'll

> need. Good luck.

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan, I have rad Dr. Ravnskov's article and his book, and other material

by him as well. I corresponded with him several times. I enumerated a bunch

of facts and he didn't address them. In addition, I wrote:

<<In your book you refer a number of times to a diet low in saturated fat as

" spartan " and " ascetic " , creating a sense of deprivation and misery. On

your website you say advocates of such a diet would " undermine the art of

cuisine, destroy the joy of eating. "

I just wanted to let you know that I have been near-vegan since 1985 and I

find the vegetarian cuisine far more tasty and delicious than anything in

the standard American meat-and-sugar diet.>>

He acknowledged me here and said he would correct this in the future, but

that many people, men in particular, feel they need meat and haven't gotten

vegetarian diets to work, palate-wise. Well, he is supposed to be in the

health business, not in the culinary business! If he can't get this food to

be tasty, then it's the cook's problem, not the doctor's problem, and he has

no business projecting this bias into his medical science.

He added that there is no evidence whatsoever that animal food, either fat

or red meat, is disadvantageous to your health. This is radically and

uproariously false. The evidence spills out of medical journals. For a

bibliography to get started, look in the reference section of Dr. Colin

's " The China Study. "

Overall, I found his perspective very narrow-headed and biased. He is

obviously coming from a he-man place of " don't mess with my meat " that I

have no need for.

I also find it very sad that a list dedicated to the virtues of Virgin

Coconut Oil should be dealing constantly with the issue of meat consumption.

Coconut is a plant. It grows from the ground. Red palm oil comes from a

plant. They should sing to the vegetarian way. I don't understand why they

are being constantly confounded with meat-eating. It's very clear from

reading this list that people on this track are completely unfamiliar with

whole grains and a whole-grain way of eating. If all you are comparing it

with is flour products and refined foods, no wonder you are attracted to

animal products. That makes sense.

Nina

Cholesterol

Agreeing with Duncan. My reading and research has run across this several

times.

My own cholesterol happens to be great even after using CO, although not

using it enough yet I don¹t think.

However, I wouldn¹t get overly concerned about high cholesterol numbers if I

did have them.

I do view CO as a pretty much miracle food so far! I use it for everything.

I only keep the Olive oil on hand for dh and I like the taste of sesame

added for flavor in smaller quantities on occasion.

Chantelle

On 11/23/08 2:29 PM, " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Another pointer would be the world's foremost cholesterol authority, a

> fella with pages of credentials, Uffe Ravnskov, has a famous article

> called the Cholesterol Myths, here:

> http://www.ravnskov.nu/

>

> High cholesterol has never been proven to cause disease.

>

> I agree that sesame seeds contain an antioxidant. All seeds do; that

> helps to preserve the oil in them from rancidity.

>

> Duncan

>

>

>> >

>> > Interesting - my info is that sesamin is an antioxidant. Anyway, I

> really

>> > agree with using both sesame oil and olive oil very sparingly. The

> only oils

>> > that I am comfortable using in relatively large quantities are VCO

> and red

>> > palm oil. Even these, however, I have cut back on, after having

> scooped up

>> > VCO like ice cream for months. A total cholesterol of 300, with an

> LDL of

>> > 160, was too over the top for me. So now I am more sparing.

>> >

>> > Nina

[Guest guest]

>

> I also find it very sad that a list dedicated to the virtues of

> Virgin Coconut Oil should be dealing constantly with the issue of

> meat consumption. Coconut is a plant. It grows from the ground. Red

> palm oil comes from a plant. They should sing to the vegetarian way.

How is that better than associating CO with meat eaters? Would you

categorize fish oil the same way?

> I don't understand why they are being constantly confounded with

> meat-eating.

Because every human on the planet has a two sets of meat-cutting

canine cuspids? Not to mention a diet rich in B12 to keep us from

going nuts.

> It's very clear from reading this list that people on this track are

> completely unfamiliar with whole grains and a whole-grain way of

> eating.

What is clear is that reliance on " medical journals " as a knowledge

base and thusly purporting those economically driven agendas as sane

medical advise, is about as productive as being vegetarian.

> If all you are comparing it with is flour products and refined

> foods, no wonder you are attracted to animal products. That makes

> sense.

For someone who has only been in the forum for a week or so, you sure

seem to have a handle on everyone's diet.

The reality is, you have NO idea the collective path of anyone on any

list - let alone this one.

And yes, culinary aspects are important when choosing a healthy diet.

We don't eat what's good for us because it tastes bad.

-vanessa

.... sheesh

[Guest guest]

, I've been on this forum for several years. I just wasn't

contributing recently.

I'll deal with your other points later. Let me just say - veg food is

extremely tasty when it is prepared well. It depends on the chef.

Nina

Re: Cholesterol

>

> I also find it very sad that a list dedicated to the virtues of

> Virgin Coconut Oil should be dealing constantly with the issue of

> meat consumption. Coconut is a plant. It grows from the ground. Red

> palm oil comes from a plant. They should sing to the vegetarian way.

How is that better than associating CO with meat eaters? Would you

categorize fish oil the same way?

> I don't understand why they are being constantly confounded with

> meat-eating.

Because every human on the planet has a two sets of meat-cutting

canine cuspids? Not to mention a diet rich in B12 to keep us from

going nuts.

> It's very clear from reading this list that people on this track are

> completely unfamiliar with whole grains and a whole-grain way of

> eating.

What is clear is that reliance on " medical journals " as a knowledge

base and thusly purporting those economically driven agendas as sane

medical advise, is about as productive as being vegetarian.

> If all you are comparing it with is flour products and refined

> foods, no wonder you are attracted to animal products. That makes

> sense.

For someone who has only been in the forum for a week or so, you sure

seem to have a handle on everyone's diet.

The reality is, you have NO idea the collective path of anyone on any

list - let alone this one.

And yes, culinary aspects are important when choosing a healthy diet.

We don't eat what's good for us because it tastes bad.

-vanessa

.... sheesh

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Nina Moliver wrote:

>

> He added that there is no evidence whatsoever that animal food, either fat

> or red meat, is disadvantageous to your health. This is radically and

> uproariously false. The evidence spills out of medical journals. For a

> bibliography to get started, look in the reference section of Dr. Colin

> 's " The China Study. "

>

Nina,

Just FYI, the China Study has been throroughly deconstructed and

bebunked. The raw data do not support the conclusions published.

Conflicting data from the study were completely left out. The same is

true of most of the studies published in medical journals re diets. The

data simply do not support the official conclusions.

sol

[Guest guest]

van essa wrote:

> And yes, culinary aspects are important when choosing a healthy diet.

> We don't eat what's good for us because it tastes bad.

>

Exactly. And exactly why I have so much trouble taking whey more than a

couple times per week. I don't like it, can't add fruit to it because of

blood sugar and carb issues, now can't add half and half to it, just

water, and it tastes nasty. Many times I think I'll have some in place

of a snack of other protein, but often my throat just closes and my

gorge rises at only the thought of it.

I may be unusual in that I love fast food. Mcs, Arctic Circle,

Taco Time, etc. I find it is a lot easier to avoid foods I don't like

than foods I really enjoy, no matter how bad I believe they are for me.

sol

[Guest guest]

For me, whey tastes yummy if I use far less water than the directions

tell me to use. When whey id creamy in my mouth ike drinkiing the

upper part of a bottle of un-homoginized milk, whey is far far more

pleasant.

Most people with addictions prefer their addictions, be they sugar

junkies, smokers, heroin addicts, or any other form of addictive

behavior. It takes both dilligence and perseverance to re-train

one's desires for unhealthy food. Also, leptin reisistance can play

a big part in getting us to crave fast food, which contain lots of

carbs, damaged fats, and flavor enhancers to fool the tastebuds..

Alobar

On 11/24/08, sol <solbun@...> wrote:

> van essa wrote:

> > And yes, culinary aspects are important when choosing a healthy diet.

> > We don't eat what's good for us because it tastes bad.

> >

> Exactly. And exactly why I have so much trouble taking whey more than a

> couple times per week. I don't like it, can't add fruit to it because of

> blood sugar and carb issues, now can't add half and half to it, just

> water, and it tastes nasty. Many times I think I'll have some in place

> of a snack of other protein, but often my throat just closes and my

> gorge rises at only the thought of it.

>

> I may be unusual in that I love fast food. Mcs, Arctic Circle,

> Taco Time, etc. I find it is a lot easier to avoid foods I don't like

> than foods I really enjoy, no matter how bad I believe they are for me.

> sol

>

[Guest guest]

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Alobar <alobar@...>

Date: Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Subject: Re: << Alternative-Medicine-Forum >> Re: Cholesterol

Alternative-Medicine-Forum

Below article is quite good, except for the section I quote below.

> --- Protein provides significant nutrition without causing a rise in blood

> sugar but the key is not just getting protein, the key is getting protein

> WITHOUT excess carbohydrates.

> --- With or without protein, excess carbohydrates cause a sharp rise in

> blood sugar and that produces an insulin response which leads to fat

production

> and storage, high triglycerides, and increased cholesterol.

> --- When you enjoy a delicious protein meal with only minimal carbohydrates

> coming primarily from fresh green vegetables or fresh seasonal fruit, you set

> up the IDEAL conditions to establish a perfect metabolic relationship

> between insulin and glucagon in your system and that is VERY, VERY GOOD!

The author(s) seem to have a vegan bias which blinds them. Getting

protein from FRUIT means one is eating lots of carbs. So fruit does

NOT provide protein with minimal carbs.

Meat is protein with minimal carbs. So is undenatured whey. I use

NOW brand whey protein isolate to give me amino acids with minimal

carbs.

Alobar

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:46 PM, <bestsurprise2002@...> wrote:

> Understanding Cholesterol

> _http://www.totalhealthdynamics.com/cholesterol.htm_

> (http://www.totalhealthdynamics.com/cholesterol.htm)

> by J. o, Ph.D.

>

> Let's clear up the confusion over cholesterol

>

> Cholesterol is essential to many life processes.

> Cholesterol is so important that it is produced in your body in 2 specific

> ways.

>

> First, cholesterol is made in the liver and from there is sent into the

> blood stream where, ideally, it is absorbed into the cells where it is used.

> Cholesterol that is not absorbed by the cells is transported back to the

liver

> where it is recycled or simply eliminated.

> In addition to being made in the liver, every cell in your body can and

> frequently does make the cholesterol it needs internally, PLUS every cell in

> your body has the ability to grab cholesterol circulating in the blood and

bring

> it into the cell for use. Your total blood cholesterol level is determined

> in large part by whether your cells make cholesterol internally, or instead

> gather the cholesterol they need directly out of your blood.

>

> Dietary cholesterol consumption has nothing whatsoever to do with

> determining whether your cells produce cholesterol internally or whether they

gather

> cholesterol directly from the blood.

> Numerous, excellent, doctor-directed studies have repeatedly demonstrated

> that even massive changes in the dietary cholesterol consumption, up or down,

> have only a minor effect on total cholesterol levels.

>

> There are 2 primary ways your cells get the cholesterol they need

>

> Either the cells manufacture the needed cholesterol internally and/or . .

> the cells send messengers from deep inside the cell to the cell's surface to

> grab the needed cholesterol out of the blood and bring it back inside the

cell

> for use.

>

> Keep in mind that the reason there is cholesterol circulating in your blood

> in the first place is because cholesterol is made in your liver and sent

> cycling through your bloodstream so it's available for the cells to use when

and

> if they need it.

>

> If your cells primarily manufacture the cholesterol they need internally,

> then no cellular messengers are sent to gather cholesterol from the blood and

> blood cholesterol levels tend to rise. If instead of manufacturing new

> cholesterol inside the cell, the cellular messengers are routinely sent to

gather

> cholesterol out of the blood for use in the cell, then blood cholesterol

levels

> typically remain low.

>

> The cells don't care which method is used to get the needed cholesterol BUT

> YOU SHOULD because there is a correlation between certain types of elevated

> cholesterol levels and heart problems.

>

> Much of the confusion over cholesterol has to do with the fact that the

> dietary consumption of cholesterol has only a very small effect on

determining

> total blood cholesterol levels.

> This means that trying to control cholesterol by rigorously avoiding all

> forms of dietary fat and consuming only low cholesterol foods is a

misdirected

> and highly inefficient approach to solving the problem.

>

> The key to lowering cholesterol is to shift your cells' preference FROM

> manufacturing new cholesterol internally TO using cell receptors to gather

> cholesterol out of the blood.

>

> By gathering cholesterol out of the blood to meet the cells ongoing

> cholesterol needs, blood cholesterol typically stays well within healthy

levels and

> the important HDL to LDL ratios stay in the healthy range. A specific enzyme

> with a long, complicated name controls the manufacture of cholesterol inside

> the cells. If that enzyme is active, cholesterol is made inside the cell and

> little or no cholesterol is scavenged from the blood.

> If the enzyme is NOT ACTIVE, then little if any cholesterol is made inside

> the cell and cholesterol is actively harvested directly out of the blood,

> which of course lowers the blood cholesterol levels.

> Better yet, low density lipoprotein, often considered the **bad

> cholesterol** is exactly what the cell is looking for when it gathers

cholesterol from

> the blood stream, so only does total cholesterol lower, but the *bad*

> cholesterol lowers the most.

>

> Popular cholesterol lowering drug works exactly the same way.

> Cholesterol lowering drugs inhibit the enzyme that activates cholesterol

> production inside the cell. If the cholesterol making enzyme is inhibited,

the

> cell receptors gather the needed cholesterol directly from the blood, which

of

> course lowers blood cholesterol levels.

>

> When you understand how easy it is to activate the cells that sweep

> cholesterol out of the blood, you*ll know the secret of easily establishing

and

> maintaining normal, healthy blood cholesterol levels.

>

> The *secret* is really no secret at all; in fact any medical biochemistry

> textbook clearly explains that insulin and glucagon are the two hormones that

> regulate the rate of cholesterol synthesis inside the cells.

> Insulin activates the enzyme that causes your cells to make cholesterol

> internally, which means high levels of insulin stimulate the continuous

> production of cholesterol.

> Glucagon does exactly the opposite, glucagon inhibits the enzyme that causes

> cholesterol production inside your cells, which results in the cell sending

> messengers to gather the needed cholesterol directly out of the blood,

> thereby reducing blood cholesterol levels.

>

> This is not new information; it is well known cellular biochemistry, in

> fact it is the EXACT biochemistry that expensive, cholesterol reducing drugs

are

> based on.

>

> The message is simple . . .

>

> when you begin eating in a way that avoids the production of excess insulin

> and puts glucagon in the metabolic driver's seat, your blood cholesterol

> level will fall effortlessly and you will realize that in the bigger picture,

> dietary cholesterol consumption is essentially a non-issue.

>

> There are two more pieces to the cholesterol puzzle, the first piece has to

> do with understanding the ratio between the *good cholesterol* and the *bad

> cholesterol* and the second piece of the puzzle has to do with fully

> understanding the effect diet has on cholesterol levels.

>

> First the ratios.

>

> Cholesterol ratios are simple. As soon as you understand the difference

> between LDL and HDL cholesterol, you will understand practically everything.

>

> -- Low density lipoproteins, or LDL, are proteins that transport

> cholesterol from the liver into the blood, making it available for absorption

into the

> cells.

> -- Low-density lipoproteins are like trucks, loaded with cholesterol,

> bringing it into the blood stream just in case it's needed.

> -- Unfortunately, if you eat in a way that causes the constant presence of

> excess insulin in your system, these LDL truckloads of cholesterol are not

> needed because the cells are making all the cholesterol they need internally.

>

> If the cells make all the cholesterol they need internally, that means

> low-density lipoproteins are carrying unnecessary, EXCESS cholesterol into

your

> blood, and this excess cholesterol builds up in the blood, tissues, and

> arteries setting the stage for serious health problems.

>

> -- High density lipoprotein, or HDL, help eliminate this excess cholesterol

> by collecting it from the tissues and arteries and transporting it out of

> the blood and back to the liver where it is recycled or disposed of.

> -- HDL particles are like the cholesterol clean-up crew. ·

> -- HDL particles are the empty trucks sent into the blood stream to load up

> all the excess cholesterol that has spilled out and collected in the tissues

> and arteries and then transport that excess cholesterol out of the blood.

> Clearly, cleaning up excess cholesterol lowers cholesterol levels.

>

> LDL is recognized as the *bad* cholesterol because LDL transports

> cholesterol into the blood. HDL is considered the *good* cholesterol because

HDL

> gathers up excess cholesterol and transports it out of the blood.

>

> With this in mind, it's easy to understand the importance of having the

> proper ratio of HDL to LDL. If the ratio of LDL to HDL is too high that means

> your blood is being loaded with cholesterol faster than the HDL cholesterol

> clean-up crew is removing it, which means excess cholesterol is building up

> inside the tissues and arteries and that's bad.

>

> Doctors have determined that having the proper ratio between HDL and LDL is

> a more important predictor of health than the level of total cholesterol.

>

> This means that someone with a total cholesterol level of 220 mg/dl and a

> good HDL to LDL ratio is in better shape health-wise than someone with a 175

> mg/dl cholesterol reading whose LDL level is too high compared to their HDL

> level.

>

> The two cholesterol ratio standards accepted by most doctors & researchers

> today are:

> 1. Total cholesterol divided by HDL should be below 4; and,

> 2. LDL divided by HDL should be below 3.

>

> There is almost universal agreement in the medical and scientific community

> that the further away your cholesterol ratios are from these standards the

> greater the risk of developing heart disease.

>

> It is INCORRECT to assume that lower and lower cholesterol levels somehow

> translate into better health.

> -- Research has clearly demonstrated that the **ideal healthy range** for

> cholesterol is in the 180 to 200 mg/dl range, and most importantly, with the

> proper HDL to LDL ratios.

> -- Historically, cholesterol levels over 200 correlate positively with

> increased risk of heart disease, and cholesterol levels lower than 180

correlate

> positively with almost every serious disease known except heart disease.

>

> So far we*ve discovered that insulin stimulates the production of

> cholesterol inside the cell thereby eliminating the need for the cell to

gather

> cholesterol from the blood.

> -- Given this, we now know that the key to maintaining normal, healthy

> cholesterol levels is to eat in a way that does not result in excess insulin

and

> in a way that puts glucagon in the metabolic driver's seat in your body.

> -- We*ve also learned that LDL carries cholesterol into the blood and

> tissues and that HDL carries cholesterol out of the blood and tissues and

that is

> why HDL is known as the *good* cholesterol.

>

> Now for the final piece of the cholesterol puzzle - the effect of food on

> cholesterol levels.

>

> -- While it is true that rigidly enforced, low fat, low cholesterol diets

> result in lower total cholesterol and lower LDL, it's also true that these

> diets result in a disproportionate drop in HDL levels. In other words, total

> cholesterol drops but HDL drops too much in relationship to LDL.

>

> -- Research has verified time and time again that higher cholesterol with

> good HDL to LDL ratios is overall much healthier than lower total cholesterol

> with poor HDL to LDL ratios.

>

> -- This means that while low fat, low cholesterol diets may result in lower

> total cholesterol, following these diets frequently INCREASES the risk of

> heart disease.

>

> -- Even though total cholesterol lowers, disease risk increases because the

> level of the *good* HDLs that transport cholesterol OUT of the blood drops

> too low compared to the drop in LDLs.

>

> -- When HDL is too low and LDL is too high it's virtually certain that the

> blood is flowing thick with the extra sticky LDL cholesterol and that

> cholesterol is building up inside the tissues and arteries.

>

> -- We already know that a diet high in carbohydrates stimulates excess

> insulin and that insulin causes cholesterol synthesis within the cell and

that

> means high carbohydrate diets are out as a practical means of trying to

control

> cholesterol and get optimum, healthy results.

>

> We also know that glucagon inhibits the production of cholesterol inside

> that cell and stimulates the cell to gather the cholesterol it needs directly

> from the blood, which, lowers blood cholesterol and improves the important

> HDL/LDL ratio.

>

> Now we know that low fat, low cholesterol diets result in lower overall

> cholesterol but low fat diets also cause the good HDL cholesterol to drop too

> low, and when HDL is too low the risk of disease increases.

>

> At this point, the two remaining questions are:

> 1.What dietary factors put glucagon in the metabolic driver's seat, and

> 2.What causes HDL to increase?

>

> Let's answer the second question first.

> -- Several highly controlled research studies have conclusively determined

> that a diet low in carbohydrates and higher in naturally occurring fats, like

> the fat in milk, cheese, butter, and meat, not only lower total cholesterol,

> but result in much healthier HDL to LDL ratios than are attained with diets

> low in fat and cholesterol.

>

> -- Reducing carbohydrates is vitally important because carbohydrates cause

> excess insulin and excess insulin causes most of the problems.

>

> -- If you reduce the carbs, you reduce the insulin;

>

> -- if you reduce the insulin, you INCREASE the glucagon; and

>

> -- if you increase the glucagon you are going to effortlessly burn fat,

> lower triglycerides, lower your total cholesterol, and improve your HDL to

LDL

> ratio. In other words, pull this off and you will literally improve your

> health in practically every way measurable.

>

> This is quite a turn of events

>

> -- For years we've been told eat low fat diets and pile on the carbs because

> they are low in fat and provide lots of energy.

> -- Clearly the ever-worsening tragedy of serious obesity, diabetes, and

> increasing heart disease has proven this advice to be wrong and it's wrong

> regardless of who gives it.

> -- The new advice is not based on **popular wisdom,** **common knowledge,**

> or **opinion.**

>

> The new advice is based on a more complete understanding of medical

> physiology, cellular biology, and the human endocrine system.

>

> -- The new advice has been proven repeatedly in highly controlled,

> doctor-directed, scientific studies that have produced real results with real

people.

> -- These studies have consistently demonstrated the insulin/glucagon

> relationship and proven beyond all doubt that consuming dietary cholesterol

has

> practically no meaningful effect on blood chemistry when compared to the

issue of

> getting your cells to harvest cholesterol directly from your blood instead

> of making it internally.

>

> The new advice is based entirely on how your body works.

>

> We already know that reducing carbohydrates, especially processed

> carbohydrates, will result in lower insulin levels.

>

> Now for the final question concerning metabolism - How do you put glucagon

> securely in the metabolic driver's seat and begin to enjoy the wonderful

> health benefits gained from establishing the proper insulin/glucagon balance

in

> your body.

>

> The answer in a word is PROTEIN

>

> --- Protein provides significant nutrition without causing a rise in blood

> sugar but the key is not just getting protein, the key is getting protein

> WITHOUT excess carbohydrates.

> --- With or without protein, excess carbohydrates cause a sharp rise in

> blood sugar and that produces an insulin response which leads to fat

production

> and storage, high triglycerides, and increased cholesterol.

> --- When you enjoy a delicious protein meal with only minimal carbohydrates

> coming primarily from fresh green vegetables or fresh seasonal fruit, you set

> up the IDEAL conditions to establish a perfect metabolic relationship

> between insulin and glucagon in your system and that is VERY, VERY GOOD!

>

> To help clarify the effect food has on the insulin-glucagon relationship,

> consider the following facts .

>

> --- A normal healthy person has slightly less than one single teaspoon of

> glucose circulating in their entire blood stream at any single time.

> --- Molecularly, carbohydrates are nothing more than several different kinds

> of sugar linked together. Once eaten, these sugars are quickly broken down

> into glucose which instantly enters your blood and causes blood sugar to rise

> rapidly, just like eating candy does.

> --- Since insulin production is the natural, healthy response to lower

> rapidly rising blood sugar, it's easy to understand that consuming sugar, or

> carbohydrates that quickly break down into sugar, will always result in a

quick

> rise in insulin.

>

> How many carbohydrates does it take to produce an insulin response?

>

> --- To answer this, keep in mind that 5 grams of carbohydrate equals

> approximately 1 teaspoon of sugar, which is close to the normal amount of

sugar

> found in the blood.

> --- Now, a single can of one of the more well-known brands of soft drinks

> lists 39 grams of carbohydrates in the nutrition information panel printed on

> the can.

> --- Divide 39 total carbohydrate grams by 5 grams per teaspoon and you

> quickly discover that this single can of soda water contains nearly 8

teaspoons of

> sugar that will actually enter your blood stream.

> --- Since 1 teaspoon of sugar is the normal healthy amount contained in the

> blood, 8 times that amount is clearly too much, which means if you drink that

> soft drink a quick rise in blood sugar and a quick insulin response to lower

> the rising blood sugar is absolutely guaranteed.

>

> How high do insulin levels climb in order to reduce rising blood sugar?

>

> According to the Textbook of Medical Physiology, insulin secreted to bring

> down rising blood sugar rises dramatically within 15 minutes and peaks 2-3

> hours later in ranges that are from 10 to 25 times above normal, and insulin

> levels remain elevated for hours.

>

> Now that you understand that once stimulated, insulin levels stay elevated

> for several hours, it's easy to understand how eating sugary foods or high

> carbohydrate meals and snacks throughout the day essentially insures that

> insulin stays abnormally high all day long and that glucagon is left entirely

out

> of the metabolic picture.

>

> The key to activating glucagon and putting it in the metabolic driver's seat

> is to eat meals with plenty of protein and, ideally, carbohydrates that come

> almost entirely from fresh vegetables. Like cholesterol, as long as you

> avoid the chemically altered fats that produce dangerous transfatty acids,

> dietary fat consumption is essentially a non issue because, much like

protein,

> natural fat is turned into structural raw material needed for cell growth and

> maintenance.

>

> Keep in mind that your body contains something on the order of a hundred

> trillion cells and each and every one of them is made from and contains both

> protein and fat.

>

> Not one single cell in your body is made from carbohydrates. Protein and fat

> consumption is essential to life, carbohydrate consumption is not.

>

> There is not a single disease state associated with a lack of carbohydrates

> in the diet. The reason for this is that dietary consumption of

> carbohydrates is simply not that important because your body can make all the

glucose it

> needs directly from protein and fat.

>

> The important point is that in order to keep excess insulin to a minimum and

> insure you have enough glucagon in your system, you need meals that contain

> protein and that are pointedly low in processed and starchy carbohydrates

> like bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, corn and so on.

>

> --- Eating in a way that avoids the production of excess insulin is, without

> question, the single most important thing you can do to lose weight easily,

> keep it off permanently and improve your health literally in every way

> measurable.

> --- Excess insulin is a serious threat to your health.

> --- Excess insulin is your enemy and excess insulin is produced in your body

> primarily as a direct result of your food choices.

> --- Excess insulin leads to higher triglycerides, higher cholesterol, poor

> HDL to LDL ratios, higher blood pressure, excess fat production and storage,

> obesity, insulin resistance, and dramatically increased risk for diabetes,

> heart disease, and stroke.

> ---Glucagon is your friend and enjoying protein meals with a minimum of

> processed carbohydrates activates glucagon in your system.

>

> Glucagon is the hormone that causes you to burn stored body fat for energy.

> When glucagon is in the metabolic driver's seat it is amazingly easy to

> establish and maintain your ideal healthy body weight ESPECIALLY when you are

> getting the essential nutrients.

>

> There is an increasing awareness in the medical community that total

> cholesterol levels are not as significant a predictor of heart disease as

they once

> believed to be as long as HDL and LDL are in proper relationship.

>

> --- There is a significant and growing amount of research that shows that

> cholesterol does not cause heart disease and the dietary consumption of foods

> containing cholesterol has only a minor effect in determining total

> cholesterol levels.

>

>

> RELEVENT LINKS

>

>

> Name Creator Actions

> Cholesterol & Homocysteine

> Elevated homocysteine was identified over 40 years ago as a better indicator

> of heart disease than high cholesterol. BUT the medical community took a

> U-Turn and stayed with the high cholesterol theory. There are several books

and

> articles on this website that discuss (elevated) homocysteine, how it affects

> your heart health and how to regulate homocysteine.

> _http://www.freewebs.com/stopped_our_statins/cholesterolhomocysteine.htm_

> (http://www.freewebs.com/stopped_our_statins/cholesterolhomocysteine.htm)

>

> Cholesterol Levels & Cardiovascular Disease

> By Duane Graveline, MD MPH ~ Despite the glowing reports statin drugs

> receive in the press for their risk reduction in stroke and heart attack,

strong

> evidence exists that they do so independently of cholesterol manipulation

> despite the past 35 years of vilification of this substance. **Most studies

have

> shown cholesterol not to be a significant risk factor for women. Additionally

> the elderly are protected just as much as younger individuals, although all

> studies have shown that cholesterol is only a weak risk factor, if at all,

for

> men older than fifty.** Read more.....

> _http://www.spacedoc.net/cholesterol.html_

> (http://www.spacedoc.net/cholesterol.html)

>

> Cholesterol and Heart Disease-- A Phony Issue

> _http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/fats_phony.html_

> (http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/fats_phony.html)

>

> Cholesterol is Needed to Help Your Brain Cells Communicate

> Cholesterol in your brain is key to the cell connections needed for memory

> and learning.Past research has suggested that brain *support cells* known as

> glial cells produce a substance that allows the brain's nerve cells, or

> neurons, to communicate. Thus the availability of cholesterol appears to

limit

> synapse development.

> _http://www.mercola.com/2001/nov/24/cholesterol.htm_

> (http://www.mercola.com/2001/nov/24/cholesterol.htm)

>

> Cholesterol:

> Many Links to Primary Articles including ones from What Doctors Don't Tell

> You

> _http://www.healthy.net/scr/condition.asp?ConditionId=71_ (http:

> //www.healthy.net/scr/condition.asp?ConditionId=71)

>

> Homocysteine Reduction - How Much Is Safe?

> Both cardiovascular and Alzheimer's disease have now been linked to the

> accumulation of a toxic amino acid called homocysteine.People with elevated

> homocysteine levels are more likely to have strokes, Alzheimer's disease and

> dementia, kidney disease, diseases of the eye, erectile dysfunction, and,

> especially, heart disease (De Bree A et al 2002).Homocysteine level is

affected by a

> number of influences, including lifestyle, dietary choices, and genetics. As

> we age, our ability to absorb nutrients decreases. As a result, less of the

> important B vitamins are available to help metabolize homocysteine.

> Homocysteine level is also increased by certain pharmaceuticals, an aging

metabolism,

> smoking, drinking too much alcohol or coffee, lack of exercise, obesity, and

> stress.Advocate relatively low homocysteine levels to help lower risk of

> disease.more

> _http://www.lef.org/protocols/heart_circulatory/homocysteine_reduction_01.htm_

>

> (http://www.lef.org/protocols/heart_circulatory/homocysteine_reduction_01.htm)

>

> Is atherosclerosis caused by high cholesterol?

> By Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD ~ The role of LDL-cholesterol for atherosclerosis

> growth has been exaggerated, a finding with consequences for the prevention

> of cardiovascular disease.

> _http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/95/6/397?ijkey=/Uh9j66HOHg.Y

> _

>

(http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/95/6/397?ijkey=/Uh9j66HOHg.Y)

..

>

> THE TRUTH ABOUT CHOLESTEROL

> By Dr. Howenstine, MD. Cholesterol is a vital substance needed in

> every cell of the body as it is the chemical precursor from which the body

> produces bile acids, provitamin D3, male and female sex hormones, and adrenal

> hormones (hydrocortisone and aldosterone that regulates sodium and potassium

> balance). Cholesterol is needed to construct the important membranes which

> surround cells.Cholesterol Is Not A Major Cause Of Arterial Disease. High

> cholesterol values protect against infection.

> _http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james23.htm_

> (http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james23.htm)

>

> THINCS [The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics]

> A steadily growing group of scientists, physicians, other academicians and

> science writers from various countries, representing different views about

the

> causation of atherosclerosis and cardiovascular disease. Scientific evidence

> in support of the cholesterol campaign is non-existent. Members of this

> group represent different views about the causation of atherosclerosis and

> cardiovascular disease, some of them are in conflict with others, but this is

a

> normal part of science. What we all oppose is that animal fat and high

> cholesterol play a role

> _http://www.thincs.org/_ (http://www.thincs.org/)

>

> The Benefits Of High Cholesterol

> By Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD ~ People with high cholesterol live the longest.

> High Cholesterol Protects Against Infection. Is Atherosclerosis an Infectious

> Disease? This statement seems so incredible that it takes a long time to

> clear one*s brainwashed mind to fully understand its importance. [Weston A

Price

> Foundation]

> _http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.html_

> (http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.html)

>

> The Oiling of America

> by Enig, PhD, & Sally Fallon. Cholesterol is the body's repair

> substance, **manufactured in large amounts when the arteries are irritated or

weak.

> Blaming heart disease on high serum cholesterol levels is like blaming

firemen

> who have come to put out a fire for starting the blaze. Cholesterol is

> needed for proper function of serotonin receptors in the brain.61 Serotonin

is the

> body's natural *feel-good* chemical. This explains why low cholesterol

> levels have been linked to aggressive and violent behavior, depression and

> suicidal tendencies. Dietary cholesterol plays an important role in

maintaining the

> health of the intestinal wall,62 which is why low-cholesterol vegetarian

diets

> can lead to leaky gut syndrome and other intestinal disorders. Animal foods

> containing saturated fat and cholesterol provide vital nutrients necessary

> for growth, energy and protection from degenerative disease. The 1984

> Cholesterol Consensus Conference final report was a whitewash, containing no

mention

> of the large body of evidence that conflicted with the lipid hypothesis. One

> of the blanks was filled with the number 200. The document defined all those

> with cholesterol levels above 200 mg/dL as *at risk* and called for mass

> cholesterol screening, even though the most ardent supporters of the lipid

> hypothesis had surmised in print that 240 should be the magic cutoff point.

.....

> the federal medical bureaucracy, by picking the number 200, had defined the

> vast majority of the American adult population as *at risk.* Animal foods

> containing saturated ....

> _http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/oiling.html_

> (http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/oiling.html)

>

> The Skinny on Fats by Enig, PhD.

> Good saturated fats (coconut oil & butter) help to raise HDL levels. Fats

> from animal & vegetable sources provide concentrated source of energy; they

> also provide building blocks for cell membranes & a variety of hormones &

> hormonelike substances. Fats as part of a meal slow down absorption so that we

can

> go longer without feeling hungry. Also they act as carriers for important

> fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E and K. Dietary fats are needed for the conversion

> of carotene to vitamin A, for mineral absorption & for a host of other

> processes. Pros & cons about the various fats and how they effect our bodies.

> **High serum cholesterol levels often indicate that the body needs

cholesterol to

> protect itself from high levels of altered, free-radical-containing fats.

> Just as a large police force is needed in a locality where crime occurs

> frequently, so cholesterol is needed in a poorly nourished body to protect

the

> individual from a tendency to heart disease and cancer. Blaming coronary

heart

> disease on cholesterol is like blaming the police for murder and theft in a

high

> crime area. Poor thyroid function (hypothyroidism) will often result in high

> cholesterol levels. When thyroid function is poor, usually due to a diet high

> in sugar and low in usable iodine, fat-soluble vitamins and other nutrients,

> the body floods the blood with cholesterol as an adaptive and protective

> mechanism, providing a superabundance of materials needed to heal tissues and

> produce protective steroids. Hypothyroid individuals are particularly

> susceptible to infections, heart disease and cancer.51 While serum

cholesterol levels

> provide an inaccurate indication of future heart disease, a high level of a

> substance called homocysteine in the blood has been positively correlated

with

> pathological buildup of plaque in the arteries and the tendency to form clots

> —a deadly combination. Folic acid, vitamin B6, vitamin B12 and choline are

> nutrients that lower serum homocysteine levels.**

> _http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html_

> (http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/skinny.html)

>

> Thryoid and high cholesterol

> Even slightly low thyroid levels can cause high cholesterol. Stringent

> standards of thyroid testing need to be used to evaluate and optimize the

thyroid

> - TSH needs to be under 2.0 and freeT4/T3 in the top half or third of

> reference range.

> _http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsstory.asp?docID=523151_

> (http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsstory.asp?docID=523151)

>

> Your Cholesterol is Low? Watch Out!

> Researcher Penelope K. Elias MD of Boston University reported recently in

> Psychosomatic Medicine that persons having naturally low cholesterol levels

> demonstrate poorer performance on a variety of cognitive tests. **The

> differences were not small,** she reported. Those in the lowest total

cholesterol group

> (a cholesterol level of under 200) were 49 percent more likely to perform

> poorly and 80 percent more likely to perform very poorly than were

> _http://www.spacedoc.net/low_cholesterol.html_

> (http://www.spacedoc.net/low_cholesterol.html)

>

> Understanding Cholesterol, HDL, LDL, Ratios, Lowering Cholesterol Naturally

> & More

> _http://www.drrussellshealthandweightlossblog.com/11/undestanding-cholesterol-

> hdl-ldl-ratios-lowering-cholesterol-naturally-more/#more-11_

>

(http://www.drrussellshealthandweightlossblog.com/11/undestanding-cholesterol-hd\

l-ldl-ratios-lo

> wering-cholesterol-naturally-more/#more-11)

>

>

> Understanding Cholesterol!

> Let's clear up the confusion over cholesterol! Cholesterol is so important

> that it is produced in your body in 2 specific ways. Doctors have determined

> that having the proper ratio between HDL and LDL is a more important

predictor

> of health than the level of total cholesterol. Now we know that low fat, low

> cholesterol diets result in lower overall cholesterol but low fat diets also

> cause the good HDL cholesterol to drop too low, and when HDL is too low the

> risk of disease increases. There is a significant and growing amount of

> research that shows that cholesterol does not cause heart disease and the

dietary

> consumption of foods containing cholesterol has only a minor effect in

> determining total cholesterol levels.When you begin eating in a way that

avoids the

> production of excess insulin and puts glucagon in the metabolic driver*s

> seat, your blood cholesterol level will fall effortlessly and you will

realize

> that in the bigger picture, dietary cholesterol consumption is essentially a

> non-issue.

> _http://www.totalhealthdynamics.com/cholesterol.htm_

> (http://www.totalhealthdynamics.com/cholesterol.htm)

>

[Guest guest]

There are essential amino acids, and essential fatty acids, but no

essential carbs that I'm aware of.

lou

[Guest guest]

>

> There are essential amino acids, and essential fatty acids, but no

> essential carbs that I'm aware of.

> lou

>

No, but there are essential vitamins and minerals.

Dolores

[Guest guest]

" Compared with muscle meats, organ meats are richer in just about

every nutrient, including minerals like phosphorus, iron, copper,

magnesium and iodine, and in B vitamins including B1, B2, B6, folic

acid and especially vitamin B12. Organ meats provide high levels of the

all-important fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E and K, especially if the

animals live outside in the sunlight and eat green grass. Organ meats

are also rich in beneficial fatty acids such as arachidonic acid, EPA

and DHA. Organ meats even contain vitamin C—liver is richer in vitamin

C than apples or carrots! Even if you add only small amounts of organ

meats to your ground meat dishes, you are providing your family with

super nutrition. . . in ways that everyone likes and are easy to

consume. "

from article by Sally Fallon, " Cooking With Mystery Meat " at

http://westonaprice.org

[Guest guest]

Dear Bee,

You will most likely tell me that you are unable to advise my friend since she

is not completely on your program, but her doc. told her that she has a high

level of cholesterol. Do such tests mean anything anyway for someone who is

following a low-carb, high-fat diet

many thanks in advance.à

bestest, helene

[Guest guest]

Did the doc warn you that taking Niacin will give ou false glucometer

readings? I take niacinamide, which does not give false glucometer

readings.

Alobar

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Virginia Leonard

<breckrider@...> wrote:

> I’m recently diagnosed Type II Diabetic.  My latest labs show my cholesterol

to be Triglycerides are 458 and HDL is 35.  The report says it can’t accurately

calculate my LDL because the Triglycerides are so high.  The doc wants me on

2000mg/day of niacin and gave me a script for Gemfibrozil 600mg/day.

>

>

>

> I know there’s some debate about cholesterol and triglycerides.  Is there

something natural I can do to get these numbers more in line with what’s

considered normal?

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, she didn't tell me that. Does the niacinamide do the same thing as the

niacin? Where do you get it?

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Alobar

Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:27 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Cholesterol

Did the doc warn you that taking Niacin will give ou false glucometer

readings? I take niacinamide, which does not give false glucometer

readings.

Alobar

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Virginia Leonard

<breckrider@...> wrote:

> I'm recently diagnosed Type II Diabetic. My latest labs show my

cholesterol to be Triglycerides are 458 and HDL is 35. The report says it

can't accurately calculate my LDL because the Triglycerides are so high.

The doc wants me on 2000mg/day of niacin and gave me a script for

Gemfibrozil 600mg/day.

>

>

>

> I know there's some debate about cholesterol and triglycerides. Is there

something natural I can do to get these numbers more in line with what's

considered normal?

>

>

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I never had a doc tell me my cholesterol levels were not good. I take

it for helping maintain stable blood sugars. Here in the US there are

myriad places online to buy it.

Alobar

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Virginia Leonard

<breckrider@...> wrote:

> No, she didn't tell me that.  Does the niacinamide do the same thing as the

> niacin?  Where do you get it?

>

>

>

> From: Coconut Oil

> [mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Alobar

> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:27 PM

> Coconut Oil

> Subject: Re: Cholesterol

>

>

>

> Did the doc warn you that taking Niacin will give ou false glucometer

> readings?  I take niacinamide, which does not give false glucometer

> readings.

>

> Alobar

>

> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Virginia Leonard

> <breckrider@...> wrote:

>> I'm recently diagnosed Type II Diabetic.  My latest labs show my

> cholesterol to be Triglycerides are 458 and HDL is 35.  The report says it

> can't accurately calculate my LDL because the Triglycerides are so high.

> The doc wants me on 2000mg/day of niacin and gave me a script for

> Gemfibrozil 600mg/day.

>>

>>

>>

>> I know there's some debate about cholesterol and triglycerides.  Is there

> something natural I can do to get these numbers more in line with what's

> considered normal?

>>

>>

>

[Guest guest]

Do you know whether it would work to lower triglycerides?

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Alobar

Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:33 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Cholesterol

I never had a doc tell me my cholesterol levels were not good. I take

it for helping maintain stable blood sugars. Here in the US there are

myriad places online to buy it.

Alobar

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Virginia Leonard

<breckrider@... <mailto:breckrider%40comcast.net> > wrote:

> No, she didn't tell me that. Does the niacinamide do the same thing as

the

> niacin? Where do you get it?

>

>

>

> From: Coconut Oil

<mailto:Coconut Oil%40>

> [mailto:Coconut Oil

<mailto:Coconut Oil%40> ] On Behalf Of Alobar

> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:27 PM

> Coconut Oil

<mailto:Coconut Oil%40>

> Subject: Re: Cholesterol

>

>

>

> Did the doc warn you that taking Niacin will give ou false glucometer

> readings? I take niacinamide, which does not give false glucometer

> readings.

>

> Alobar

>

> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Virginia Leonard

> <breckrider@... <mailto:breckrider%40comcast.net> > wrote:

>> I'm recently diagnosed Type II Diabetic. My latest labs show my

> cholesterol to be Triglycerides are 458 and HDL is 35. The report says it

> can't accurately calculate my LDL because the Triglycerides are so high.

> The doc wants me on 2000mg/day of niacin and gave me a script for

> Gemfibrozil 600mg/day.

>>

>>

>>

>> I know there's some debate about cholesterol and triglycerides. Is there

> something natural I can do to get these numbers more in line with what's

> considered normal?

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<<I'm recently diagnosed Type II Diabetic. My latest labs show my

cholesterol to be Triglycerides are 458 and HDL is 35. The report says it

can't accurately calculate my LDL because the Triglycerides are so high. The

doc wants me on 2000mg/day of niacin and gave me a script for Gemfibrozil

600mg/day.

I know there's some debate about cholesterol and triglycerides. Is there

something natural I can do to get these numbers more in line with what's

considered normal?>>

I don't know about Diabetes and Cholesterol , seems to go together,

I have CAD and supposed to be on Cholesterol meds, which I do not take , I

managed to get my triglycerides down to 77 and HDL up to 62

( Ratio 4.2) with diet and exercise , I work out 7 days a week en ear 4 tbs

of coconut oil daily.

There is a herbal remedy called Cholestin , Red yeast Rice, there is

another product , can't think of it right now

Edy

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