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Yes - except you are trying to breath more SHALLOW and to try extending the

time hold time (ideally increasing it to 45-50 seconds)..

More details, and a bunch of links to other summarys and STUDIES at

http://www.folkarts.com/idef/breathing.htm (just finished the first cut

today)...

... good breathing!

Ken

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> From: Martha Pfeiffer <kmpfeiffer@...>

>

> Ken thanks for summarizing the breath technique. Does

> it go like this: breathe out, hold. Then just breath

> normally for ten minutes? I repeat this several

> times, etc? Did I miss something here - or is this

> it?

> Repeat several times a day. Eash session lasts about

> 30 minutes?

>

> Martha

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Hi! I have to agree that the LL breath is deeper and slower. I like it

that way because I feel I have more control over it. It is slower paced

but that is a good thing. I get more oxygen in my system like Rashelle

said. The results speak for themselves. I do a little bit more

strenuous exercises in the morning when I am getting ready for my day.

It seems to wake me up more and pumps me up for work. I also do a few

breaths on the way into work and that seems to calm me down some. I

think it might have something to do with my frame of mind at the time

and what I want to get out of the breathing. Or maybe I am just a fruit

cake!!! lol.... I have been doing some breathing at night but I am

closing my eyes like Rashelle mentioned on the instructional video. It

is very relaxing and it winds me down. Although I have done some

breathing where it gets me all pumped up and I can't sleep. My sleeping

patterns are much better too now. That is all I have to share for now.

Thanks,

Michele

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Hi Michele,

It seems to me that what you shared was pretty important. Everything you said makes sense. The great thing is that we all have the control to adjust your Life Lift to fit your own needs, your lifestyle and how your own body responds to the oxygen you are feeding it.

Keep up the great work. You are terrific.

Take care, RashelleVisit us at www.lifelift.com and www.angelmgagic.comJoin our discussion at: www.onelist.com/group/LifeLift

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From: Michele Sheeran <sheeranj@...> Hi! I have to agree that the LL breath is deeper and slower. I like itthat way because I feel I have more control over it. It is slower pacedbut that is a good thing. I get more oxygen in my system like Rashellesaid. The results speak for themselves. I do a little bit morestrenuous exercises in the morning when I am getting ready for my day.It seems to wake me up more and pumps me up for work. I also do a fewbreaths on the way into work and that seems to calm me down some. Ithink it might have something to do with my frame of mind at the timeand what I want to get out of the breathing. Or maybe I am just a fruitcake!!! lol.... I have been doing some breathing at night but I amclosing my eyes like Rashelle mentioned on the instructional video. Itis very relaxing and it winds me down. Although I have done somebreathing where it gets me all pumped up and I can't sleep. My sleepingpatterns are much better too now. That is all I have to share for now.Thanks,Michele

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Hi Everyone,

I keep getting messages from people asking why Life Lift seems to be more

effective than a more aggressive way of breathing.

I think that perhaps the thinking behind making it more intense was to make

it more believable if it mimicked traditional exercise. It is actually just

the opposite. I have found that by helping the body to be more relaxed, the

results are best. I have also found that most people are tired of the old

way of working out, since it never really seems to work and give the results

people want. Otherwise you would not have come looking for an alternative

way to work out. Remember the more you enjoy your work out, the better your

results will be.

Remember to keep your pah more like a deep sigh that goes down into your

belly. It should not hurt your throat, or your neck. It should remain a

total air sound. No voice should be used. It should never be intense. When

you lift, remember to think in your mind that you are lifting your entire

body upward, it should be slow, precise and give you a feeling of security

in your body. Don't forget to complete it you by lifting your toungue to the

roof of your mouth and firming your jaw with it. Let your face feel the nice

tight feeling that comes with it. You should feel your chin flex under your

jaw.

I have complete faith in you. I feel certain that you can reach any goal you

set for yourself. First you must believe in yourself and in your dreams. Put

that together with Life Lift and you have the winning combination.

Take good care of yourself, this is after all your own priceless body. You

are creating the future of your health with every breath you take.

Rashelle

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, the best investment I ever made was my

adjustable bed. It has been a great help, but not

a complete cure. I would like to share my latest

episode.

I started the new year with a bang. I had been

doing well since my dilatation in September. We

were out on Monday and I had for lunch one slice

of pizza. It was a little difficult swallowing and

at couple of times I thought it was going to come

back, but didn't. This is not the first time I have

eaten pizza since the dilatation so I don't think it was

necessarily that which caused the problem.

On New Year's Eve, I went to bed about 12:30 and at

1:00 I started coughing. I coughed almost constantly

until after 4:30. As the coughing subsided, the spasms

started. Previously I would have a spasm for 10 to

30 minutes and it would go away. Yesterday, I had

them all day long. One would come....pain gradually

increasing until it hit that glass shattering note and

then slowly subside. In a few minutes it would return

and the routine would repeat itself. This went on until

after midnight last night. I woke up this morning pain

free and have not had a repeat so far today. Of course

I am praying it does not come back, but I had never had

one that followed this procedure before.

Magg

"Don't look back we aren't going that way."

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Jenn,

I had the same problems with breathing for a long time. The best investment

I ever made was 12.50 for decking blocks. Decking blocks are square and

have a hole in the middle to brace up decks. I used them to prop up my bed.

They are exactly 4 inches at the bottom of the hole and with the bed frame

they elevate my bed 7 inches. Its perfect. I got them at Home Depot. I

was stiff all the time with pillows and felt like I was sleeping setting up.

I found a pillow that blows up like the wedge pillow. I take that when I

travel and I have very few problems.

J.C.

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> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm back from a fun (but cold!) visit to New Orleans over Christmas.

> Wish I could eat better - usually only had one or two meals a day

> there and didn't visit any of the restaurants that were on my list!

>

> Regarding my achalasia, my swallowing has been a bit better since

> going back on Adalat. I only have to drink about 1/2 as much water

> as before and the food seems to go down a lot better.

>

> My other experience from the trip has to do with sleeping. At home I

> sleep with my upper body elevated on pillows. I have a wedge-shaped

> pillow and then I suppliment that with several other pillows and

> usually sleep fairly well at home.

>

> Despite propping myself up (comfortably) on 7 pillows in my New

> Orleans hotel, I slept horribly - waking up many, many times coughing

> and sputtering and having to spit up. Since I didn't eat late and I

> didn't eat that much overall, I don't think it was caused by

> different food or too much food, and since I was very well elevated,

> I'm not sure why it would be much different from being at home.

>

> I was sharing the room with my mother, who said that several times

> she was on the verge of phoning for an ambulance and said it sounded

> like I was on the verge of drowning in my sleep - gurgling while

> breathing and waking up coughing and stuff.

>

> Anyway, I do sleep very poorly while travelling and I think it is a

> lot of fluid in my esophagus that causes me to gurgle and cough and

> stuff I wonder why it doesn't seem to happen as much at home though.

> And if my swallowing is quite a bit better why won't the stuff go

> down at night?

>

> Anyway, just thought I'd post my experience to the group.

>

> Hope everyone had a great Christmas and New Years! Happy 2002!

>

>

>

>

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I don't make too many comments here, but I have to confirm the investment in the adjustable bed, we purchased one of those electric ones and I usually sleep fairly well, but as I had problems over Christmas when we went to my son's home - we even went home early 'cos I was not coping well.

Donna

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, the best investment I ever made was myadjustable bed. It has been a great help, but nota complete cure. I would like to share my latestepisode.I started the new year with a bang. I had been doing well since my dilatation in September. Wewere out on Monday and I had for lunch one sliceof pizza. It was a little difficult swallowing andat couple of times I thought it was going to comeback, but didn't. This is not the first time I haveeaten pizza since the dilatation so I don't think it wasnecessarily that which caused the problem. On New Year's Eve, I went to bed about 12:30 and at1:00 I started coughing. I coughed almost constantlyuntil after 4:30. As the coughing subsided, the spasmsstarted. Previously I would have a spasm for 10 to30 minutes and it would go away. Yesterday, I hadthem all day long. One would come....pain graduallyincreasing until it hit that glass shattering note andthen slowly subside. In a few minutes it would returnand the routine would repeat itself. This went on untilafter midnight last night. I woke up this morning painfree and have not had a repeat so far today. Of courseI am praying it does not come back, but I had never hadone that followed this procedure before.Magg"Don't look back we aren't going that way."

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Hi Donna

How are you doing? Not so good by the sound of it. is having all

sorts of trouble at the moment also. The spasms are more frequent and

nothing seems to stay down, even liquids sometimes. I am starting to

wonder about the fundoplication, but the doctor says no more surgery,

even if the fundopl is too tight, so I don't know where to from here.

Kerry

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>

>

>

> , the best investment I ever made was my

>

> adjustable bed. It has been a great help, but not

>

> a complete cure. I would like to share my latest

>

> episode.

>

>

>

> I started the new year with a bang. I had been

>

> doing well since my dilatation in September. We

>

> were out on Monday and I had for lunch one slice

>

> of pizza. It was a little difficult swallowing and

>

> at couple of times I thought it was going to come

>

> back, but didn't. This is not the first time I have

>

> eaten pizza since the dilatation so I don't think it was

>

> necessarily that which caused the problem.

>

>

>

> On New Year's Eve, I went to bed about 12:30 and at

>

> 1:00 I started coughing. I coughed almost constantly

>

> until after 4:30. As the coughing subsided, the spasms

>

> started. Previously I would have a spasm for 10 to

>

> 30 minutes and it would go away. Yesterday, I had

>

> them all day long. One would come....pain gradually

>

> increasing until it hit that glass shattering note and

>

> then slowly subside. In a few minutes it would return

>

> and the routine would repeat itself. This went on until

>

> after midnight last night. I woke up this morning pain

>

> free and have not had a repeat so far today. Of course

>

> I am praying it does not come back, but I had never had

>

> one that followed this procedure before.

>

>

>

> Magg

>

> " Don't look back we aren't going that way. "

>

>

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I had a dilation on 12/28 and had an oh my God I'm gonna pass out from the pain spasm on 12/30. I've had spasms like this before, but the last one I had of this magnitude was about 5 years ago. My doctor said that maybe it's a result of the surgery and that it should pass. Well Wed. 1/2 I had another oh my God spasm. Called the doctor and he prescribed hyoscyamine which is used to treat various digestive tract disorders and various nervous system conditions. Hope this works as the spasms as everyone knows are very dibilitating. Hope you're feeling better soon, maybe your spasms are related to the recent dilation as well.

Kerry Jaeger <kerry.jaeger@...> wrote: Hi DonnaHow are you doing? Not so good by the sound of it. is having all sorts of trouble at the moment also. The spasms are more frequent and nothing seems to stay down, even liquids sometimes. I am starting to wonder about the fundoplication, but the doctor says no more surgery, even if the fundopl is too tight, so I don't know where to from here. Kerry Re: Breathing> > > > , the best investment I ever made was my> > adjustable bed. It has been a great help, but not> > a complete cure. I would like to share my latest> > episode.> > > > I started the new year with a bang. I had been > > doing well since my dilatation in September. We> > were out on Monday and I had for lunch one slice> > of pizza. It was a little difficult swallowing and> > at couple of times I thought it was going to come> > back, but didn't. This is not the first time I have> > eaten pizza since the dilatation so I don't think it was> > necessarily that which caused the problem. > > > > On New Year's Eve, I went to bed about 12:30 and at> > 1:00 I started coughing. I coughed almost constantly> > until after 4:30. As the coughing subsided, the spasms> > started. Previously I would have a spasm for 10 to> > 30 minutes and it would go away. Yesterday, I had> > them all day long. One would come....pain gradually> > increasing until it hit that glass shattering note and> > then slowly subside. In a few minutes it would return> > and the routine would repeat itself. This went on until> > after midnight last night. I woke up this morning pain> > free and have not had a repeat so far today. Of course> > I am praying it does not come back, but I had never had> > one that followed this procedure before.> > > > Magg> > "Don't look back we aren't going that way." > >

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Jenn, I had trouble this summer when I traveled to California...my

husband and I now pack some wood blocks in our luggage to put under the

head of the bed legs in the hotel. It's such a hassle to take the bed

completely apart before we go to bed, but it helped a lot. I know they

thought we were so weird when we kept asking for MORE pillows! More

pillows, more water...what next, I'm sure they were wondering. My

husband told me before my surgery that I sounded like I had an ocean in

my throat at night when I slept. I'm glad you had fun, though, and

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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Pat - The hyoscyamine is the generic name for the prescription drug, Levsin, which I have used for a couple of years to alleviate my horrible spasms. I would be lost without it, and hope it works equally well for you.

Carol

Re: Breathing> > > > , the best investment I ever made was my> > adjustable bed. It has been a great help, but not> > a complete cure. I would like to share my latest> > episode.> > > > I started the new year with a bang. I had been > > doing well since my dilatation in September. We> > were out on Monday and I had for lunch one slice> > of pizza. It was a little difficult swallowing and> > at couple of times I thought it was going to come> > back, but didn't. This is not the first time I have> > eaten pizza since the dilatation so I don't think it was> > necessarily that which caused the problem. > > > > On New Year's Eve, I went to bed about 12:30 and at> > 1:00 I started coughing. I coughed almost constantly> > until after 4:30. As the coughing subsided, the spasms> > started. Previously I would have a spasm for 10 to> > 30 minutes and it would go away. Yesterday, I had> > them all day long. One would come....pain gradually> > increasing until it hit that glass shattering note and> > then slowly subside. In a few minutes it would return> > and the routine would repeat itself. This went on until> > after midnight last night. I woke up this morning pain> > free and have not had a repeat so far today. Of course> > I am praying it does not come back, but I had never had> > one that followed this procedure before.> > > > Magg> > "Don't look back we aren't going that way." > >

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Kerry,

I had a fundopl in 1990 and had to have it taken down in 2000. I would say,

if someone is having problems, they should seek another opinion. Fundo's

can be loosened or even taken down I know. I have had 3 surgeries. Have

you tried the Arginine? It has helped me greatly even after 3 surgeries.

It's a thought.

I will add you to my prayer list.

J.C.

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> >

> >

> >

> > , the best investment I ever made was my

> >

> > adjustable bed. It has been a great help, but not

> >

> > a complete cure. I would like to share my latest

> >

> > episode.

> >

> >

> >

> > I started the new year with a bang. I had been

> >

> > doing well since my dilatation in September. We

> >

> > were out on Monday and I had for lunch one slice

> >

> > of pizza. It was a little difficult swallowing and

> >

> > at couple of times I thought it was going to come

> >

> > back, but didn't. This is not the first time I have

> >

> > eaten pizza since the dilatation so I don't think it was

> >

> > necessarily that which caused the problem.

> >

> >

> >

> > On New Year's Eve, I went to bed about 12:30 and at

> >

> > 1:00 I started coughing. I coughed almost constantly

> >

> > until after 4:30. As the coughing subsided, the spasms

> >

> > started. Previously I would have a spasm for 10 to

> >

> > 30 minutes and it would go away. Yesterday, I had

> >

> > them all day long. One would come....pain gradually

> >

> > increasing until it hit that glass shattering note and

> >

> > then slowly subside. In a few minutes it would return

> >

> > and the routine would repeat itself. This went on until

> >

> > after midnight last night. I woke up this morning pain

> >

> > free and have not had a repeat so far today. Of course

> >

> > I am praying it does not come back, but I had never had

> >

> > one that followed this procedure before.

> >

> >

> >

> > Magg

> >

> > " Don't look back we aren't going that way. "

> >

> >

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Kerry,

My surgeon told me that if I developed tightness in swallowing

again after my surgery it would be because of scar tissue. He said that

it rarely happens, but if it does, they can stretch it to take care of

it. I have my fingers crossed that my luck will hold out. Just wanted

you to know what my doctor said.

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Its actually my 11 year old son who has this, not me (he was diagnosed

at 6, fundoplication at 7 years). I had heard that fundoplications had

to be reversed sometimes. I am curious as to whether this causes

problems with reflux then? I am watching the arginine posts with

interest but am not certain it is safe for children.

Thanks for your good wishes. Kerry

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , the best investment I ever made was my

> > >

> > > adjustable bed. It has been a great help, but not

> > >

> > > a complete cure. I would like to share my latest

> > >

> > > episode.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I started the new year with a bang. I had been

> > >

> > > doing well since my dilatation in September. We

> > >

> > > were out on Monday and I had for lunch one slice

> > >

> > > of pizza. It was a little difficult swallowing and

> > >

> > > at couple of times I thought it was going to come

> > >

> > > back, but didn't. This is not the first time I have

> > >

> > > eaten pizza since the dilatation so I don't think it was

> > >

> > > necessarily that which caused the problem.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On New Year's Eve, I went to bed about 12:30 and at

> > >

> > > 1:00 I started coughing. I coughed almost constantly

> > >

> > > until after 4:30. As the coughing subsided, the spasms

> > >

> > > started. Previously I would have a spasm for 10 to

> > >

> > > 30 minutes and it would go away. Yesterday, I had

> > >

> > > them all day long. One would come....pain gradually

> > >

> > > increasing until it hit that glass shattering note and

> > >

> > > then slowly subside. In a few minutes it would return

> > >

> > > and the routine would repeat itself. This went on until

> > >

> > > after midnight last night. I woke up this morning pain

> > >

> > > free and have not had a repeat so far today. Of course

> > >

> > > I am praying it does not come back, but I had never had

> > >

> > > one that followed this procedure before.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Magg

> > >

> > > " Don't look back we aren't going that way. "

> > >

> > >

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Thanks . I think we might have to seek a second opinion. The

surgeon that did my son's original surgery recommends we do nothing

more due to existing adhesions etc. But some days he can't swallow

anything, even liquids bounce around. Kerry

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> Kerry,

> My surgeon told me that if I developed tightness in swallowing

> again after my surgery it would be because of scar tissue. He

> said that

> it rarely happens, but if it does, they can stretch it to take

> care of

> it. I have my fingers crossed that my luck will hold out. Just

> wantedyou to know what my doctor said.

>

>

>

>

>

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Kerry,

That's gotta be hard to watch your son struggling with this. He's

had a lap myotemy and a fundoplication and that's it? It's so hard to

keep everyone straight sometimes...I appologize. I can't remember if

he's had more than that. Anyway, with all of us, the scar tissue can be

a big issue. We're all so individual inside...same disease, many

problems the same, but it all boils down to our own bodies and what we

can take, what's best for us, etc. Best of luck to you both. Give him

a hug from a fellow achalasian!

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Yes it is difficult as there is so little I can do to help him. Its a

lot for a kid to deal with. Yes he had the Hellers myotomy and a Nissen

Fundoplication about 4 years ago. It wasn't lap though - he had an

enormous abdominal incision - hence the concern about adhesions and

scar tissue - and the reluctance to repeat the experience. Nevertheless

that is probably what we are facing. I need to find someone in

Australia experienced with this condition for a second opinion. I don't

want to put him through unesccesary surgery, if its not going to

improve matters. K

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> Kerry,

> That's gotta be hard to watch your son struggling with this.

> He'shad a lap myotemy and a fundoplication and that's it? It's so

> hard to

> keep everyone straight sometimes...I appologize. I can't remember if

> he's had more than that. Anyway, with all of us, the scar tissue

> can be

> a big issue. We're all so individual inside...same disease, many

> problems the same, but it all boils down to our own bodies and

> what we

> can take, what's best for us, etc. Best of luck to you both.

> Give him

> a hug from a fellow achalasian!

>

>

>

>

>

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I can sure understand your concern. JC has had 3 surgeries and is quite

knowledgeable about problems that can and did arise for her. She seems

to be quite happy that she did it NOW, but I know it was hard. My

doctor in houston mentioned something about a doctor in Adelaide, as I

was trying to help someone else find a doc in Australia once...this

other Australian was from Perth. She told me they have about 20 cases

a year in Australia??? That's REALLY not very many. My doctor performs

4 myotemies a month and about 20 Nissan Fundos. I thought THAT didn't

sound like much, but I guess it is, considering the rarity of this. I

feel so fortunate to have landed with such a good doctor. I hope you

feel that way about yours. Joop knows a lot about arginine...maybe he

could help you research it for children. If there is any info out

there, I believe he'd know it.

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Thanks . I only know of four people in Australia with this

condition (all adults) who have been in touch through this site.

Children have particular complications because of their rapid growth I

suppose and the available drugs are mostly not tested in children.

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> I can sure understand your concern. JC has had 3 surgeries and is

> quiteknowledgeable about problems that can and did arise for her.

> She seems

> to be quite happy that she did it NOW, but I know it was hard. My

> doctor in houston mentioned something about a doctor in Adelaide,

> as I

> was trying to help someone else find a doc in Australia once...this

> other Australian was from Perth. She told me they have about 20

> casesa year in Australia??? That's REALLY not very many. My

> doctor performs

> 4 myotemies a month and about 20 Nissan Fundos. I thought THAT didn't

> sound like much, but I guess it is, considering the rarity of

> this. I

> feel so fortunate to have landed with such a good doctor. I hope you

> feel that way about yours. Joop knows a lot about

> arginine...maybe he

> could help you research it for children. If there is any info out

> there, I believe he'd know it.

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, I was spasm free today, took the Levsin and it does seem to work. Mine was prescriped as take every 4 to 5 hrs. as needed. How many do you take a day. Today I took two. chaggas <chaggas@...> wrote:

Pat - The hyoscyamine is the generic name for the prescription drug, Levsin, which I have used for a couple of years to alleviate my horrible spasms. I would be lost without it, and hope it works equally well for you.

Carol

Re: Breathing> > > > , the best investment I ever made was my> > adjustable bed. It has been a great help, but not> > a complete cure. I would like to share my latest> > episode.> > > > I started the new year with a bang. I had been > > doing well since my dilatation in September. We> > were out on Monday and I had for lunch one slice> > of pizza. It was a little difficult swallowing and> > at couple of times I thought it was going to come> > back, but didn't. This is not the first time I have> > eaten pizza since the dilatation so I don't think it was> > necessarily that which caused the problem. > > > > On New Year's Eve, I went to bed about 12:30 and at> > 1:00 I started coughing. I coughed almost constantly> > until after 4:30. As the coughing subsided, the spasms> > started. Previously I would have a spasm for 10 to> > 30 minutes and it would go away. Yesterday, I had> > them all day long. One would come....pain gradually> > increasing until it hit that glass shattering note and> > then slowly subside. In a few minutes it would return> > and the routine would repeat itself. This went on until> > after midnight last night. I woke up this morning pain> > free and have not had a repeat so far today. Of course> > I am praying it does not come back, but I had never had> > one that followed this procedure before.> > > > Magg> > "Don't look back we aren't going that way." > >

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Pat - I don't take them as the label recommends, but only as often and as many as I need to relieve the chest spasm. Usually one does the trick, but there have been times when I've needed a second one to make the pain go away. I've taken this second one in fairly close succession to the first - maybe as close as 15 minutes. It's all based on experience. Once you know how fast to expect the first one to work, you can tell if you need a second one to get relief from particularly bad attacks.

Carol

Re: Breathing> > > > , the best investment I ever made was my> > adjustable bed. It has been a great help, but not> > a complete cure. I would like to share my latest> > episode.> > > > I started the new year with a bang. I had been > > doing well since my dilatation in September. We> > were out on Monday and I had for lunch one slice> > of pizza. It was a little difficult swallowing and> > at couple of times I thought it was going to come> > back, but didn't. This is not the first time I have> > eaten pizza since the dilatation so I don't think it was> > necessarily that which caused the problem. > > > > On New Year's Eve, I went to bed about 12:30 and at> > 1:00 I started coughing. I coughed almost constantly> > until after 4:30. As the coughing subsided, the spasms> > started. Previously I would have a spasm for 10 to> > 30 minutes and it would go away. Yesterday, I had> > them all day long. One would come....pain gradually> > increasing until it hit that glass shattering note and> > then slowly subside. In a few minutes it would return> > and the routine would repeat itself. This went on until> > after midnight last night. I woke up this morning pain> > free and have not had a repeat so far today. Of course> > I am praying it does not come back, but I had never had> > one that followed this procedure before.> > > > Magg> > "Don't look back we aren't going that way." > >

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Liz, if your doctor won't take you seriously, ask for a referral to another

doctor for assessment. Sounds to me like you could have a real problem that

needs attention. If you don't have to go through a " gate-keeper " doc, ask

another doctor for an appointment. To rule out the possibility of a fibroid

tumor see your gynecologist. Keep us posted.

I thought I was having cardiac problems, but it turned out to be lung spasms

caused by asthma. If I worked too hard I'd end up hardly able to take in enough

air due to constricted airways in the lungs caused by the asthma. Add to this

chostochondritis and sternum inflammation.... Gee, aren't we lucky.

Ray

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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Ray in Virginia wrote:

> Liz, if your doctor won't take you seriously, ask for a referral to another

doctor for assessment. Sounds to me like you could have a real problem that

needs attention. If you don't have to go through a " gate-keeper " doc, ask

another doctor for an appointment.

My dr. is my gatekeeper .. managed care medicaid:((((

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tte,

If you have AS your chest and lungs may not be expanding fully. Also, stress

can make you feel short of breath. Most doctors can do routine pulmonary

tests in their office. If you need a more elaborate work up, your doctor can

refer you to a pulmonologist. Also, have you started any new medicines?

Certainly that could cause a shortness of breath situation.

Hope this helps,

Dave

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Liz, do you have asthma?

Everything you have described sounds like asthma to me... but then I am just

a mom.

Adrienne, my son Wesley and I all have asthma, and it affects each of us a

little different. Adrienne is only affected when she exerts herself (

exercise induced ) Wesley will have attacks... out of the blue, and he is

exercise induced. Saturday night he had an attack that nearly took us to the

hospital. He just could not catch his breath... and when he layed down it

was way worse. Much like what you are describing. He had spent the day at a

friends, and perhaps the house was dusty, or perhaps there was a cat??? I

don't know, just know he was sure triggered when he got home.

I have it, and it happens now and then... when walking up a hill, or exerting

myself... and sometimes just going to bed when the bedroom has not been

vaccumed in a couple weeks.

I hope, for your sake it is as simple as asthma. The treatment we all use

is an inhaler, since we are all infequent.

Good luck!

K

Adrienne's Mom

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