Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Bruce, While that may be the case with these pads. That does not take away the value of compresses which I have tried and they worked numerous times. A neighbour had 4 children one an infant who had wind. No amount of burping worked . The baby was crying all the time and wouldn't eat. The crying was driving everyone crazy. Day two she takes the baby to a doctor who gives her antibiotics (can you imagine) when that didn't work and it's now day 6 I met her coming out with her baby. She told me the sad tale.. I said I'd try to help. Now I knew a medical doctor who was head of the vegetarian society who believed in natural methods including herbal remedies. I called him and explained the problem. He told me to have the woman use a clean white cotton cloth, steep in cold water and wring out. Then place on infant's stomach. leave for ten minutes. Then squeeze one teaspoon of apple juice from a fresh apple. Give to infant. Within twenty minutes the infant was quiet and was able to be breast fed again. Here the cold compress was integral to the cure. She was delighted. The infant was happy. so happy all round, PS imagine using antibiotics on a young baby like that...what does it do to the intestinal flora. From: Bruce <bruce@...>Subject: Re: hivesiodine Date: Saturday, 9 January, 2010, 22:39  http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2008/ 10/14/detoxifyin g-foot-pads- are-a-scam. aspx Bruce Re: hives  There are studies on everything being fake. Who did them, the medical association? Results from users show the evidence right on them. Just checking them out anyways. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Blake  There have been studies on those foot pads that show they are fake, have not value at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 That is what I have read and heard also. These pads are useless and a waste of money. Just a gimmick. from IllinoisFrom: Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...>iodine Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 4:24:14 PMSubject: Re: hives  There have been studies on those foot pads that show they are fake, have not value at all. Re: hives Yes definitely. I recalled Mark Sircus talking about them, and trying them in his ebookNatural Allopathic Medicine.He had a good link on them;http://www.detoxi. co.uk/research. htmThanksBruce----- Original Message ----- From: david kennaBrucewhat about those japanese foot compresses which draw out toxins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010  Yes, the skin has both sweat and oil glands and can be a major organ of detox that is not used as much as it should be. "One of the worst cases of environmental toxicity in U.S. medical history was treated by a Dr. Ziem at the s Hopkins Center for Environmental Medicine. The patient was off the charts with cadmium, aluminum, silver, and mercury but was able to receive a complete cure. The skin on his entire upper body was slate grey. Dr. Ziem had to design a complete protocol from scratch in order to treat this patient. This included a strong supplement program, including high doses of Vitamin E and Selenium. No standard chelating agents were used. The most critical part of Ziem's treatment protocol was very simple: Steam Sauna Therapy. Dr. Ziem sweated the poison out of the man to the point where the patient literally sweated metals that could be wiped off with a towel. " http://onibasu.com/archives/am/133099.html Bruce Re: hivesiodine Date: Saturday, 9 January, 2010, 22:29  There are studies on everything being fake. Who did them, the medical association? Results from users show the evidence right on them. Just checking them out anyways. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Blake  There have been studies on those foot pads that show they are fake, have not value at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Bruce, certainly. Sauna, Turkish bath, well known for their cleansing benefits. In fact in some very hot countries they provide salt pills to replace the salt which is lost through heat and sun exposure. And not just salt.Other minerals as well. Runners have drinks with protein and electrolytes, which they lose through running long distances. people have died on marathons due to loss of minerals. . From: Bruce <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: hivesiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, 9 January, 2010, 22:29  There are studies on everything being fake. Who did them, the medical association? Results from users show the evidence right on them. Just checking them out anyways. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Blake  There have been studies on those foot pads that show they are fake, have not value at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Bruce here is a link which gives an insight into the question of how we lose minerals through the skin and how under certain conditions this can be life thretening or terminal. http://www.healthy-water-best-filters.com/water-intoxication.html From: Bruce <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: hivesiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, 9 January, 2010, 22:29  There are studies on everything being fake. Who did them, the medical association? Results from users show the evidence right on them. Just checking them out anyways. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Blake  There have been studies on those foot pads that show they are fake, have not value at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Bruce, Dr mercola has a video interviewing Dr Klinghardt. on emf. compelling stuff. david From: Bruce <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: hivesiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, 9 January, 2010, 22:29  There are studies on everything being fake. Who did them, the medical association? Results from users show the evidence right on them. Just checking them out anyways. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Blake  There have been studies on those foot pads that show they are fake, have not value at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 wow, doing a search on mercola on Klinghardt gives a ton of pages. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: david kenna Bruce, Dr mercola has a video interviewing Dr Klinghardt. on emf. compelling stuff. david  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Native Americans use sweat lodges and scrape the skin with a flexible scraper of some kind, depending on their procedure, I imagine a dry towel would work as well. If you don't have a dry sauna you could probably build a sweat lodge for cheap. You have to be careful to stay hydrated. Ginger before you do steam baths or dry sauna makes the body sweat liberally. A person can get dizzy though and the body temp can rise very high and cause hallucinations and so forth, so keep an eye on body temp. Bath in very clean water afterwards while the pores are still open so all the gunk doesn't sink back in. Under no circumstances drink wine or alcohol:) Yoooooouuu'lll beeeeee sorrrrryyyy if you do. An oral electrolyte solution might be wise during and afterwards. Good idea to start out with short sessions. Lightheadedness can happen. And if you pass out while in there by yourself, well you get the picture. Might be wise to have someone who can check on you. Kinda like a spotter. Bethann Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein david kenna wrote: > > > Bruce, > certainly. Sauna, Turkish bath, well known for their cleansing benefits. > In fact in some very hot countries they provide salt pills to replace the > salt which is lost through heat and sun exposure. > And not just salt.Other minerals as well. > Runners have drinks with protein and electrolytes, which they lose > through running long distances. > people have died on marathons due to loss of minerals. > . > > > > > From: Bruce <brucebkdesign (DOT) ca > <http://uk.mc276.mail./mc/compose?to=brucebkdesign (DOT) ca>> > Subject: Re: hives > iodinegroups (DOT) com > <http://uk.mc276.mail./mc/compose?to=iodine > > Date: Saturday, 9 January, 2010, 22:29 > > >  > There are studies on everything being fake. Who did them, > the medical association? > Results from users show the evidence right on them. > Just checking them out anyways. > > Bruce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Kathleen Blake > <http://uk.mc276.mail./mc/compose?to=kathleenblakemsn> > >  > There have been studies on those foot pads that show > they are fake, have not value at all. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 http://www.naturalnews.com/024973_detox_health_toxins.html Looks at foot pads for detox. While maybe off topic, additional detox is/should be an important part of any iodine protocol. Yes iodine does detox many thngs, the halides especially and some for metals, but additional ways are needed as well. A good part of these other methods is reducing the load on the liver and kidneys, and catching things other means may not. The infrared and sauna for anyone with toxic issues is something needing a serious look and consideration. On foot pads, much like iodine one can find a zillion articles for and against, so one decides for themselves. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: david kenna Bruce, While that may be the case with these pads. That does not take away the value of compresses which I have tried and they worked numerous times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 What does this have to do with iodine? > > Native Americans use sweat lodges and scrape the > skin with a flexible scraper of some kind, > depending on their procedure, I imagine a dry > towel would work as well. If you don't have a dry > sauna you could probably build a sweat lodge for > cheap. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Additional detox Bruce Re: hives What does this have to do with iodine?>> Native Americans use sweat lodges and scrape the > skin with a flexible scraper of some kind, > depending on their procedure, I imagine a dry > towel would work as well. If you don't have a dry > sauna you could probably build a sweat lodge for > cheap.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 It has to do with detoxing through the skin. And why ask me that question? I'm replying to a post like several other people already have. The person who started the subject can answer better than I. But I'll give it a shot; Iodine binds the toxins, but excretion can be through the skin, kidneys, or digestive tract. Right now we're talking about ways to make people sweat out toxins, and that can spare the kidneys. Sweating out toxins is one of the oldest ways used by mankind for ridding the body of toxins. Bethann Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein wrote: > > > What does this have to do with iodine? > > > > > > > > Native Americans use sweat lodges and scrape the > > skin with a flexible scraper of some kind, > > depending on their procedure, I imagine a dry > > towel would work as well. If you don't have a dry > > sauna you could probably build a sweat lodge for > > cheap. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 yes..worth the read though. the video interview is only available in complete form to subscribers. a newish money making scam mercola has thought up. From: Bruce <bruce@...>Subject: Re: hivesiodine Date: Sunday, 10 January, 2010, 0:01 wow, doing a search on mercola on Klinghardt gives a ton of pages.Bruce----- Original Message ----- From: david kennaBruce,Dr mercola has a video interviewing Dr Klinghardt. on emf.compelling stuff.david Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Bruce, Do you attribute your hives to iodine, and if so, what type did you use, how much were you taking, and for how long were you taking it before your symptoms appeared. Have the symptoms subsided at this point? > > > > Native Americans use sweat lodges and scrape the > > skin with a flexible scraper of some kind, > > depending on their procedure, I imagine a dry > > towel would work as well. If you don't have a dry > > sauna you could probably build a sweat lodge for > > cheap. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 No I don't. I started this thread asking if anyone has had that related to iodine, it looks like not, as no-one responded saying they had. I have used lugol's for 2 months, usually at low dose (6-12mg), though I have been up to 30-50mg frequently. I believe it is very unlikely iodine related but asked in case. Hives is a hystamine reaction, usually to an allergy to something that is often unknown, especially a one time issue. I have no allergies, never have, so it is a mystery at this point. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: lsayre@... Bruce, Do you attribute your hives to iodine, and if so, what type did you use, how much were you taking, and for how long were you taking it before your symptoms appeared. Have the symptoms subsided at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 While he offers a lot of good information, I don't think that Dr. Mercola is the last word on everything-- he has his own blind spots. I get the newsletter from the site you've linked to below and they are pretty realistic. -- At 06:14 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote: >http://www.naturalnews.com/024973_detox_health_toxins.html > >Looks at foot pads for detox. While maybe off topic, additional detox >is/should be an important part of any iodine protocol. >Yes iodine does detox many thngs, the halides especially and some for >metals, but additional ways are needed as well. >A good part of these other methods is reducing the load on the liver and >kidneys, and catching things other means may not. >The infrared and sauna for anyone with toxic issues is something needing a >serious look and consideration. > >On foot pads, much like iodine one can find a zillion articles for and >against, so one decides for themselves. >Bruce ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Dear Bee, I have just experienced a large outbreak of hives. I must say I got a small chock, but from reading the article on die off symptoms I got calm down. My face I completely red and hot, I have rash all over my neck, my arms and upper body. And i feels as my bodu is a bit swelled all over. Yesterday I began all the correct supplements. I have decided to take 1000 mg. of C-vitamin twice a day for a week and then increase it. I have been takíng the recommended coconut oil for 2 month. The only thing I did differently this morning was to eat turmeric with my eggs. Do you have any suggestions for changes I should do? Or should I continue as nothing has happened? Thank you so much, Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Hi , I have just read the article about niacin flush. I am certain that is what happened to me. And yes, yesterday was first day I took Niacin. I took some photos of my arms, neck and face. You are welcome to get some if it could be of any use for other people. I still feel the after effect of the flush all over the body, even on my tongue! Thanks a lot for your reply. I am impressed of your knowledge. Thank you so much!!! Caroline > > Hi Caroline, > > I'm just wondering if you took Niacin for the first time yesterday when you said you began to take all the correct supplements. A niacin flush can look like a break out of hives. > > It's, of course, also possible that you had a break out of hives which is just another way for your body to get rid of toxins. > > Either way, try to look at as part of the healing process. > > All the best, > (a group moderator) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 > > Hi , > > I have just read the article about niacin flush. I am certain that is what happened to me. And yes, yesterday was first day I took Niacin. > > I took some photos of my arms, neck and face. You are welcome to get some if it could be of any use for other people. > > I still feel the after effect of the flush all over the body, even on my tongue! > > Thanks a lot for your reply. I am impressed of your knowledge. Thank you so much!!! +++Hi Caroline. That's why you need to read and learn since the information about niacin causing a flush is in my articles. That's why knew what was happening, and you could too. I worked in a doctor's office in the late 1980s, and we had to hand out info about niacin causing a flush, because we got so many phone calls saying " I'm allergic to B vitamins! " lol! Back then real niacin was in all Vitamin B Complex supplements. Cheers, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.