Hives

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Don't know about the NF, but I thought I might mention something about the hives that sounded fishy to me.

One thing to look out for on issues of the type "when this happen THEN this happens" is OTHER forms of "ritual" behavior that occur at simultaneously but are not "acknowledged" in the analysis.

My favorite example is that of a sports player who got migraines the day of the event. The Freudian folks were saying he was "avoiding" because of some not-specific inner conflict. Deeper analysis discovered that the team had a group "ritual" to go out for Coney Island hot dogs the day before a big game. Coney dogs (which he didn't eat at other times) have onions on them. A basic food/symptom timing chart showed onions caused migraines the next day. Voila!

My thought was that perhaps Dad and daughter may stop in a local restaurant for an unusual meal when coming for NF, or something. Just wondering.

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Re: Hives>> No but this would be great if it was - what it makes worse it can make better - could mean that EEG would help hives, or is it psoriasis? Takes the form of bumps or patches on the trunk. >> lisakittredge <lisakittredge@...> wrote: Has anyone reported hives or allegic reactions following > neurofeedback? This takes the form as one or two welts/bumps, on an > area of the body not in contact with any of the paste, cleanser,etc> (usually on the trunk area.)> Thanks,> Kittredge

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This is a wise comment from I think. She may well be returning to a toxic situation at home. The identified patient is often not the root of the problem.

Foxx

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Have you spoken with her counselor? Just from what you describe I suspect there is more going on in her home environment, or has gone on in the past. If her home environment has problems then her reactions may be an attempt to cope with that environment. Just my two cents.

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--------- Re: Hives>> No but this would be great if it was - what it makes worse it can make better - could mean that EEG would help hives, or is it psoriasis? Takes the form of bumps or patches on the trunk. >> lisakittredge <lisakittredge@...> wrote: Has anyone reported hives or allegic reactions following > neurofeedback? This takes the form as one or two welts/bumps, on an > area of the body not in contact with any of the paste, cleanser,etc> (usually on the trunk area.)> Thanks,> Kittredge

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If she likes the Othmer's training, why not keep her there for 20 or 30 sessions? This can be very stablizing. Some find that training very sedating. Another issue may be she needs more 12-15 hz on the right side at C4, P4, and F4. Have you done a TLC assessment? - debFoxx <foxx@...> wrote: This is a wise comment from I think. She may well be returning to a toxic situation at home. The identified patient is often not the root of the problem. Foxx -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of mtlindsey@...Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: Hives , Have

you spoken with her counselor? Just from what you describe I suspect there is more going on in her home environment, or has gone on in the past. If her home environment has problems then her reactions may be an attempt to cope with that environment. Just my two cents. --Warmly, This email and any attachments may contain confidential information and it is intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you should destroy this message and notify the sender by reply email. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction or transmission of this email is strictly prohibited. --------- Re: Hives>> No but this would be great if it was

- what it makes worse it can make better - could mean that EEG would help hives, or is it psoriasis? Takes the form of bumps or patches on the trunk. >> lisakittredge <lisakittredge@...> wrote: Has anyone reported hives or allegic reactions following > neurofeedback? This takes the form as one or two welts/bumps, on an > area of the body not in contact with any of the paste, cleanser,etc> (usually on the trunk area.)> Thanks,> Kittredge

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Thank you all who have replied. The TLC was the first thing I did, which showed the hot temporals. I agree that the home/socail situation is huge and I am not looking for neurofeedback to fix everything, judt give the poor kid some relief. Thanks, especially for the counsel about length of time it can take. I have seen so many quick responses that I guess I get impatient.

On 12/2/05, Debaney Lefort <debaney2000@...> wrote:

If she likes the Othmer's training, why not keep her there for 20 or 30 sessions? This can be very stablizing. Some find that training very sedating. Another issue may be she needs more 12-15 hz on the right side at C4, P4, and F4. Have you done a TLC assessment?

- deb Foxx <foxx@...> wrote:

This is a wise comment from I think. She may well be returning to a toxic situation at home. The identified patient is often not the root of the problem.

Foxx

Re: Re: Hives

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Have you spoken with her counselor? Just from what you describe I suspect there is more going on in her home environment, or has gone on in the past. If her home environment has problems then her reactions may be an attempt to cope with that environment. Just my two cents.

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--------- Re: Hives>> No but this would be great if it was - what it makes worse it can make better - could mean that EEG would help hives, or is it psoriasis? Takes the form of bumps or patches on the trunk. >> lisakittredge <lisakittredge@...> wrote: Has anyone reported hives or allegic reactions following > neurofeedback? This takes the form as one or two welts/bumps, on an > area of the body not in contact with any of the paste, cleanser,etc> (usually on the trunk area.)> Thanks,> Kittredge

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Where are they on your body? It could be detoxing reaction. Many have this when they first start supplementing. A buffered C powder is what Dr. Brownstein recommends to combat the effects. Also a detoxing bath of peroxide and epsom salts (1 cup of each) or 1 cup of dead sea salts will help with the issue.

Hives

Hi All,I have been taking 4 ioderol tablets for about 3 weeks now and thelast two days I have gotten hives. Has anyone else had this reaction?I don't know if it is coincidence or is caused by the iodine, so Ihave discontinued it to see if the problem resolves. Please let meknow what you think as I want to continue with the iodine therapy.Terry/Oregon

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Hives have been listed as an iodine " sensitivity " indicator...i'd be

suspicious of that particularly if there were other signs

of " sensitivity " like sneezing, itching, facial swelling.

just a lower dose may solve the problem.

cindi

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> Hi All,

> I have been taking 4 ioderol tablets for about 3 weeks now and the

> last two days I have gotten hives. Has anyone else had this reaction?

> I don't know if it is coincidence or is caused by the iodine, so I

> have discontinued it to see if the problem resolves. Please let me

> know what you think as I want to continue with the iodine therapy.

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Thanks for the replies. I have not had any iodine for 36

hours but am still having an allergic reaction. My feet itch like crazy and I

have been sneezing more than normal. I will take lots of vitamin C today

and will see if it helps. I was hoping it was just a detox reaction as

the iodine has helped me and don’t want to quit taking it.

Thanks,

Terry/Oregon

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Benydryl has helped me when I've had an allergic reaction...for the

itching, although sometimes I've had to get RX meds for allergic

reactions.

cindi

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> Thanks for the replies. I have not had any iodine for 36 hours but

am still

> having an allergic reaction. My feet itch like crazy and I have

been

> sneezing more than normal. I will take lots of vitamin C today

and will

> see if it helps. I was hoping it was just a detox reaction as the

iodine has

> helped me and don't want to quit taking it.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Terry/Oregon

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This may or may not apply, but I get itchy feet and lower legs from

oxalate build up and when my body is dumping oxalates. Taking a soak

in a tub with oatmeal and epsom salts helpos a lot. So is being

aware of what foods are high oxalate and avoiding them. See

Trying_Low_Oxalates/

Alobar

On 12/21/06, Esselstyn <pesselstyn@...> wrote:

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> Thanks for the replies. I have not had any iodine for 36 hours but am still

having an allergic reaction. My feet itch like crazy and I have been sneezing

more than normal. I will take lots of vitamin C today and will see if it

helps. I was hoping it was just a detox reaction as the iodine has helped me and

don't want to quit taking it.

>

>

>

> Thanks,

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> Terry/Oregon

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Has the itching eased at all?  If it doesn't ease within a week, I would

want to know how your thyroid & adrenals are doing... as those affect

your immune system.  

My theory is that iodine stimulates an auto immune response.  Not directly,

but by strengthening the very things that the immune has been attacking all

along. (e.g. thyroid). At least, that was how iodine seemed to affect me.

 

Amy

Esselstyn wrote:

Thanks for the replies. I have

not had any iodine for 36 hours but am still having an allergic reaction.

My feet itch like crazy and I have been sneezing more than normal.  I will

take lots of vitamin C today and will  see if it helps. I was hoping it was

just a detox reaction as the iodine has helped me and don’t want to quit

taking it.

 

Thanks,

Terry/Oregon

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FWIW, this is a known side effect for people who have an IgA antibody build-up in their tissues. I avoided ALL iodine for years for this reason, which was probably a mistake in retrospect, but I still do not know what would be the right treatment. The IgA is activated when one takes iodine, and it causes massive itching. Topical benadryl (Caladryl) worked for me without the sleepy side effects of oral benadryl. But does the " activated " IgA clear faster from the system? I do not know.

The IgA buildup was caused, in my case, by IgA allergies (gluten and casein), but it took a year or so to stop reacting to iodine after stopping eating those foods.-- Heidi

On 12/21/06, Esselstyn <pesselstyn@...> wrote:

Thanks for the replies. I have not had any iodine for 36

hours but am still having an allergic reaction. My feet itch like crazy and I

have been sneezing more than normal. I will take lots of vitamin C today

and will see if it helps. I was hoping it was just a detox reaction as

the iodine has helped me and don't want to quit taking it.

Thanks,

Terry/Oregon

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If it does turn out to be an allergic reaction you could try NAET. It

helped me.

Irene

At 06:15 AM 12/21/2006, you wrote:

Thanks for the

replies. I have not had any iodine for 36 hours but am still having an

allergic reaction. My feet itch like crazy and I have been sneezing more

than normal. I will take lots of vitamin C today and will see

if it helps. I was hoping it was just a detox reaction as the iodine has

helped me and don’t want to quit taking it.

Thanks,

Terry/Oregon

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Pleasek out www.chronichives.com, and urticaria@groups, wealth of info on hives. If you have acute ones, they may be allergy based, if you have chronic ones, 6 weeks or more, they can have a variety of reasons for them,. Infections, allergies, thyroid, or they can be autoimmune. Sometimes hard to pinpoint the reasons, but if autoimmune, our immune systems are already in hyperdrive, and don't need to be stimulated. Please read up! Different things work for different people.]Di

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>Pleasek out www.chronichives.com, and urticaria@groups, wealth of info on hives.>

Hi Diane,

Great website! Thanks for posting it,

Dahlia

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Sounds like

an allergic reaction to something! I had hives all over my torso when I reacted

to Avelox. I will also get hives occasionally when my skin contacts certain

things I am allergic to. I had to quit allergy shots because they were making

my sinuses worse though I am allergic to a lot more than just dust mites. Maybe

it is the shots? My sinuses cleared up a ton after I stopped shots.

Hives

I had surgery almost two months ago, and about three

weeks ago some

really nasty hives started to develop over my body. In addition to

the surgery, I've also been on immunization therapy (shots) for

allergy to dust mites. However, there is no real swelling of the

injection site.

Has anyone else with Samter's had this kind of experience.

It'sss....*scratch scratch*...really...*rub itch*......annoying...

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True, but I've been on the shots for like two months already (they did however recently increase my concentration).Plus, there is no reaction around the injection site.On 6/20/07, Keefer <jkeefer@...> wrote:

Sounds like

an allergic reaction to something! I had hives all over my torso when I reacted

to Avelox. I will also get hives occasionally when my skin contacts certain

things I am allergic to. I had to quit allergy shots because they were making

my sinuses worse though I am allergic to a lot more than just dust mites. Maybe

it is the shots? My sinuses cleared up a ton after I stopped shots.

Hives

I had surgery almost two months ago, and about three

weeks ago some

really nasty hives started to develop over my body. In addition to

the surgery, I've also been on immunization therapy (shots) for

allergy to dust mites. However, there is no real swelling of the

injection site.

Has anyone else with Samter's had this kind of experience.

It'sss....*scratch scratch*...really...*rub itch*......annoying...

[Guest guest]

i found that i got hives from monosodium glutamate in food (mainly crisps as I am a crisp fiend) - so it might help to monitor when it happens in relation to eating? I would get them round my middle and on my hands, wrists and arms

From: " Ladd" <nathanladd@...>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: HivesDate: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:30:11 -0500

I had surgery almost two months ago, and about three weeks ago somereally nasty hives started to develop over my body. In addition tothe surgery, I've also been on immunization therapy (shots) forallergy to dust mites. However, there is no real swelling of theinjection site.Has anyone else with Samter's had this kind of experience.It'sss....*scratch scratch*...really...*rub itch*......annoying...

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I use to have hives everyday. It was often related to pressure of a grocery bag across the wrist or something I ate. I was prescribed Seldane and later Allergra for it and they eventually went away after the full blown Samter's arrived.

RE: Hives

i found that i got hives from monosodium glutamate in food (mainly crisps as I am a crisp fiend) - so it might help to monitor when it happens in relation to eating? I would get them round my middle and on my hands, wrists and arms

From: " Ladd" <nathanladd@...>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: HivesDate: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:30:11 -0500

I had surgery almost two months ago, and about three weeks ago somereally nasty hives started to develop over my body. In addition tothe surgery, I've also been on immunization therapy (shots) forallergy to dust mites. However, there is no real swelling of theinjection site.Has anyone else with Samter's had this kind of experience.It'sss....*scratch scratch*...really. ..*rub itch*......annoying ...

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In Australia it’s widely recommended and

known not to take MSG if you have asthma because of the side affects.

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samters

Subject: RE: Hives

i found

that i got hives from monosodium glutamate in food (mainly crisps as I am a

crisp fiend) - so it might help to monitor when it happens in relation to

eating? I would get them round my middle and on my hands, wrists and arms

From: " Ladd " <nathanladdgmail>

Reply-samters

samters

Subject: Hives

Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:30:11 -0500

I

had surgery almost two months ago, and about three weeks ago some

really nasty hives started to develop over my body. In addition to

the surgery, I've also been on immunization therapy (shots) for

allergy to dust mites. However, there is no real swelling of the

injection site.

Has anyone else with Samter's had this kind of experience.

It'sss....*scratch scratch*...really...*rub itch*......annoying...

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I was

on the shots for almost a year. They were never able to get my dose up to the

full maintenance dose. At the lower levels, I didn’t have problems other

than the occasional itching at the shot site. It was the higher doses that

caused the stuffy nose and also a reaction at the shot site, though I did not

always get the reaction at the shot site. It was weird, but I do know that quitting

them helped immensely.

Hives

I had surgery almost two months ago, and about three

weeks ago some

really nasty hives started to develop over my body. In addition to

the surgery, I've also been on immunization therapy (shots) for

allergy to dust mites. However, there is no real swelling of the

injection site.

Has anyone else with Samter's had this kind of experience.

It'sss....*scratch scratch*...really...*rub itch*......annoying...

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I hives once or twice a week, and I have for the past 11 years. Allegra takes care of them within a half an hour or so of taking the caplet.

Like many of us, my allergy tests came up negative. My ENT said that a certain percentage of Samterites routinely get hives. Zyrtec works for some people but I found that Zyrtec gave me nightmares (strange side effect!)

Good luck,

Lilah

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i found that i got hives from monosodium glutamate in food (mainly crisps as I am a crisp fiend) - so it might help to monitor when it happens in relation to eating? I would get them round my middle and on my hands, wrists and arms

From: " Ladd" <nathanladdgmail>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: HivesDate: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:30:11 -0500

I had surgery almost two months ago, and about three weeks ago somereally nasty hives started to develop over my body. In addition tothe surgery, I've also been on immunization therapy (shots) forallergy to dust mites. However, there is no real swelling of theinjection site.Has anyone else with Samter's had this kind of experience.It'sss....*scratch scratch*...really. ..*rub itch*......annoying ...Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile.

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Hello all!

I don't post very often anymore...but I do still lurk!? My son had

episodes in a rather MAJOR way for 4 years until he had his tonsils/adenoids out

at the age of 5 and has had what I can only describe as random and far between

episodes since then.? He is almost 11 now and has for the past several months

had major hives on the inside of his thighs all the way to his knees and

occasionally on the tops of his feet.? I have taken him to the doctor for them

and he has pretty much determined they are associated with .? They LOOK

awful, but apparently are pretty harmless.? I would be happy to post photos if

that would be helpful.

Carol Reynolds and Casey

Greenfield, IN

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--- Aidan has had one case of Hives - and I had no idea what they are.

He wasn't fevering at the time - but he had hives on top of hives for

about three - five days . . . no one said anything to me about this

being related to - and since he's been fevering 28 months and

only had hives once - I don't know if I would see a correlation either

in our case.

Hannah

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does that mean his is comming back? thank you char

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I just received this from a health group about hives and thought whoever

wrote about hives might be interested. Hives can be a very itchy

reaction to a lot of things. I had it as a result of sulfa drugs

(bactrim antibiotic) prescribed for sinus infection but didn't get the

hives until the second time I used it. The doc said women are especially

prone to this reaction, and usually it happens the second time (like in

my instance) so now must list this as an allergy or allergic reaction

and not use sulfa drugs any more.

http://www.revolutionhealth.com/forums/asthma-allergies/121055?msc=A62689

What’s causing the hives I’ve had for 2 weeks?

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