Guest guest Posted September 6, 2000 Report Share Posted September 6, 2000 I started to say something on this post, then I realized that with double sterile water & H2O2, where did the glucose come from in the first place? I sure don't know that one. ;-) jim Kris Hall wrote: > > Doesn't the H2O2 give a OH- to make a basic solution, so the pH of 8 is to > be expected? Maybe something is malfunctioning with the glucose strip. > Kris > Those who cast the votes decide nothing, > Those who count the votes decide everything. > Atlantic1@... > Don't get mad with those who have hurt you, > get even with those who have helped you. -- " Coming events cast their shadows before. " -- jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2000 Report Share Posted September 7, 2000 Doesn't the H2O2 give a OH- to make a basic solution, so the pH of 8 is to be expected? Maybe something is malfunctioning with the glucose strip. Kris Those who cast the votes decide nothing, Those who count the votes decide everything. Atlantic1@... Don't get mad with those who have hurt you, get even with those who have helped you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 In a message dated 01/23/2001 9:43:57 PM Central Standard Time, dandee@... writes: << Anyone know where I can get food grade h2o2? Thanks, Dan >> ________________ Mizner at elmizner@... I buy many things from her and I'm almost positive she sells it. Her prices are always good....write and ask. Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2001 Report Share Posted March 2, 2001 Hi Joan , Tristan, and folks, Are you not feeling alive from the homozon? Take more until you do. But also I recommend you do take h2o2 or ozonated water in addition to homozon, as they are different. Take a few drops of 35% h2o2 in eight ounces of water on an empty stomach and see what you feel for the next thirty minutes or more. It makes a difference. I took homozon for two months and sprayed my body with h2o2 every day, but it wasn't until I started drinking h2o2 that my skin changed dramatically to being as soft as a baby's butt. I have now discontinued the spraying. At least for me, drinking h2o2 has had an overall effect like nothing I've ever done. Over the next few weeks, I am hopeful of much more healing as a result. I'm also looking forward to getting an ozonator to see if the effect is the same as drinking h2o2. The plastic water jug that my h2o2 came in turned out to have leached much plastic pollutants into my h2o2 and I had to throw it out the h2o2. You could smell it, and h2o2 is odorless when pure. I am in the process of researching this problem, but for the time being I found a local source for h2o2 in a glass bottle. P. P. h202 Ive been on the Jaguar Blood Electrification for 45min per day -everyday, but without the magnetic pulser because the company has taken 6weeks to ship it out. Blood elect has been going on for one month,homozon for 2x daily for 2 weeks, coral calcium 2x daily, but feel goodsome days and others back to tired.You guys talk over and over about what works! What does work? Should INOW take h202 and what is it? I need to begin feeling alive or I'mgoing to scream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2001 Report Share Posted March 3, 2001 h202 > Ive been on the Jaguar Blood Electrification for 45min per day -every > day, Hi Joan, So sorry to hear you're having some hard times. Please forgive me, but I can't seem to remember what you're treating yourself for. 45 min. a day BEing usually isn't enough. One is suppose to work up to 2 hours a day. I must say, however, when I was doing it; it made me very sick, very depressed and everything was such an effort. I only continued because I wanted to go the distance in the hope of healing myself of cfids. Sometimes I wonder how I did continue cause the depression was extreme. Now, however, that's all gone; and I must say, it was worth it. but without the magnetic pulser because the company has taken 6 > weeks to ship it out. I know how frustrating that can be. I've had to send my pulser back for repairs , and still haven't received it. I don't know why Jaguar takes so long. Maybe because it's a one-man's business. , but feel good > some days and others back to tired. I think this is pretty normal. For me, I felt mostly badly the whole time until about a week before the treatment was to be completed. > > You guys talk over and over about what works! What does work? Should I > NOW take h202 and what is it? I need to begin feeling alive or I'm > going to scream. For me what has helped was: the BEing, magnetic pulser, and the CS (love the CS). I didn't include the ozonated water at the time. Now I've included the homozon and absolutely loved it. I've also included the H202 and love that even more. These I am substituting for the ozonated water. I never should have left it out of the Beck protocol. The H202 is a 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide. I know it sound appalling. but really it's not. You mentioned needing to feel alive. The one word I would use to describe the homozon or h202 is a feeling of " life " . Then again " screaming " is perfectly acceptable and aloud here. I myself did plenty of it plus many tears. Hang in there, Joan. We're all hoping the best for you and are here to help in any way we can. Take care. Gail > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2001 Report Share Posted April 6, 2001 Hi , my 2 cents would be that the oxygen in the blood may have thinned it enough to cause the blood to get through the clogged artery. The pain in the shoulder blade may be a symptom of gall bladder problems might have been inflamed and the H2o2 is keep at bay! Laurie dwk2650557@... wrote: > I had been taking H202 orally for a number of years as a > general > measure for health. I barely noticed that a few days later > the ache > in my left shoulder vanished. Recently I went on a trip to > the USA > that lasted 3 months. I left my bottle of 30% H202 at home > as it > seemed too dangerous to transport. After about a month and > a half I > began to have excrutiating pain in my left shoulder. In > addition, the > outside of my left thigh and the instep of my left foot > began to feel > numb, as if too little blood were getting to the tissues. > I really > didn't know what to think. Somehow I made the connection > between not > taking H202 and my symptoms. A few days after restarting > the > consumption of H202 the symptoms in both my shoulder and > my leg were > drastically improved. It is now a month later and the > improvement > continues. I have not yet reached the point of being > nearly symptom- > free that I enjoyed before I stopped my daily regimen. I > am curious > if anyone out there has any comment to make to this story. > > Particularly to the numbness in my left thigh, as > anecdotally it > would suggest that either the arteries in my thigh become > blocked > when I stop taking H202 and quickly become unblocked when > I begin > again, or there is some other explanation (an irritated > nerve that is > relieved etc.). In any case, I can attest to the high > workability of > H202 for Osteoarthritis. > > As a new member of the list I wish you all the best. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2001 Report Share Posted April 6, 2001 My friend experienced pain in her kidney area when she stopped the HP for a few days and thinks that it may be co-related as well. Deanna laurie kerr <laurker@...> wrote: Hi , my 2 cents would be that the oxygen in the blood may have thinned it enough to cause the blood to get through the clogged artery. The pain in the shoulder blade may be a symptom of gall bladder problems might have been inflamed and the H2o2 is keep at bay! Laurie dwk2650557@... wrote: > I had been taking H202 orally for a number of years as a > general > measure for health. I barely noticed that a few days later > the ache > in my left shoulder vanished. Recently I went on a trip to > the USA > that lasted 3 months. I left my bottle of 30% H202 at home > as it > seemed too dangerous to transport. After about a month and > a half I > began to have excrutiating pain in my left shoulder. In > addition, the > outside of my left thigh and the instep of my left foot > began to feel > numb, as if too little blood were getting to the tissues. > I really > didn't know what to think. Somehow I made the connection > between not > taking H202 and my symptoms. A few days after restarting > the > consumption of H202 the symptoms in both my shoulder and > my leg were > drastically improved. It is now a month later and the > improvement > continues. I have not yet reached the point of being > nearly symptom- > free that I enjoyed before I stopped my daily regimen. I > am curious > if anyone out there has any comment to make to this story. > > Particularly to the numbness in my left thigh, as > anecdotally it > would suggest that either the arteries in my thigh become > blocked > when I stop taking H202 and quickly become unblocked when > I begin > again, or there is some other explanation (an irritated > nerve that is > relieved etc.). In any case, I can attest to the high > workability of > H202 for Osteoarthritis. > > As a new member of the list I wish you all the best. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Most is tech grade and there is a difference. Gale ^i^ http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com " Strange times are these in which we live, when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once, a lunatic and fool. " Plato We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " between water and light h202 Well, I'm trying to find sources, in research mode. Moria, farmguard- -that # no longer works, and I can't find farmer's market--can you refer me to the list (nelson, bc)? I did find this source if you want a 50 gallon drum: http://www.groworganic.com/a/item_PSA860_HydrogenPeroxide3550Gal.html But you have to have a forklift ;-) which I don't have in NYC and 50 gallons is rather enormous. I suppose if people in an area wanted to form a sort of coop and split it up 5 ways it could be worthwhile. Don't know the shipping/hazmat fees, but 50 gallons for $400 is $8/gallon, as opposed to $12/quart or whatever similar prices are listed on here by gale & others. I will keep researching to find the most economical source in various sizes. Moria, if you can find the new # for farmguard that would help, that # isdisconnected. But I now see that most agricultural sources would offer it; interestingly, I started reading on a canadian organic farming site about the minerals they give animals including yeast based selenium, and diatamecous (sp?) earth...they get better stuff than humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Yes I noticed the two grades, so was checking agricultural/farm sites that had food grade and fed it to animals or in their water supply. > Most is tech grade and there is a difference. > > Gale ^i^ > http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com > " Strange times are these in which we live, when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. > And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once, a lunatic and fool. " Plato > > We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " between water and light > h202 > > > Well, I'm trying to find sources, in research mode. Moria, farmguard- > -that # no longer works, and I can't find farmer's market--can you > refer me to the list (nelson, bc)? > > I did find this source if you want a 50 gallon drum: > > http://www.groworganic.com/a/item_PSA860_HydrogenPeroxide3550Gal.html > > But you have to have a forklift ;-) which I don't have in NYC and 50 > gallons is rather enormous. I suppose if people in an area wanted to > form a sort of coop and split it up 5 ways it could be worthwhile. > Don't know the shipping/hazmat fees, but 50 gallons for $400 is > $8/gallon, as opposed to $12/quart or whatever similar prices are > listed on here by gale & others. > > I will keep researching to find the most economical source in various > sizes. Moria, if you can find the new # for farmguard that would > help, that # isdisconnected. But I now see that most agricultural > sources would offer it; interestingly, I started reading on a > canadian organic farming site about the minerals they give animals > including yeast based selenium, and diatamecous (sp?) earth...they > get better stuff than humans. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 > Well, I'm trying to find sources, in research mode. Moria, farmguard- > -that # no longer works, I'll check (later) if I typed it right and if there is any other number on their invoice. A search turns up nothing. > and I can't find farmer's market--can you > refer me to the list (nelson, bc)? 250-352-5375, Farmers Supply Ltd. 524 Railway St., , BC V1L1H4 It was on the " hydrogenperoxide " list, and the person who posted this answered right away yesterday with a phone number I have not called yet. > I did find this source if you want a 50 gallon drum: > > http://www.groworganic.com/a/item_PSA860_HydrogenPeroxide3550Gal.html > > But you have to have a forklift ;-) well, yeah, the weight is a problem! Even 15 gallons is pretty darn heavy..... Had not thought about the forklift limitation....... > which I don't have in NYC and 50 > gallons is rather enormous. I suppose if people in an area wanted to > form a sort of coop and split it up 5 ways it could be worthwhile. Yes, a very worthwhile idea, but finding containers and storage may be an issue. I think just make sure that the containers are okay for 35% H202 and label them all well. Splitting it up would just be a big job, once. > Don't know the shipping/hazmat fees, I think it is a lot less of an issue on a big shipment like this--- like I mentioned before, it was $80 to bring a drum to my house, on a truck. More complex to arrange than a UPS delivery. All of this also reflects on why I would want to do it once and get enough to last a while. regards, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Thanx, I didn't know there was a hydrogenperoxide list. :-) Seems worthwhile to put together a list of the cheapest sources available, for future refernce for everybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 > Thanx, I didn't know there was a hydrogenperoxide list. :-) yeah, I didn't either- -- heard of it a week or two ago. It is a pretty new list--- there is some traffic starting Oct 03 (last month)-- > Seems > worthwhile to put together a list of the cheapest sources available, > for future refernce for everybody well, the sources you/one/someone knows of. I spent a LOT of time finding the sources I found, and it was mostly spent on dead ends. I think there MAY be many other better sources, but I got to where I was satisfied enough and didn't want to keep calling. Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 I had a thought!!!!! The folks that grow sprouts to sell to local stores often use H2O2 to keep their sprouts from getting fungus, etc. They would probably be willing to sell a gallon if approached and offered a small profit. Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 > Well, I'm trying to find sources, in research mode. Moria, farmguard- > -that # no longer works, well, I think you already ordered, but here is another # for farmguard: 800-635-4897. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Quick, give your friend's name to Homeland Security! 100% h2o2 is rocket fuel... Chuck Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out. On 8/19/2005 2:33:03 PM, CountryGirl (ruthful@...) wrote: > A friend just asked me this: > Do you have an idea where I can get 100 volume H2O2 food grade? > > Does anyone know? I assume that this means 100% > > Thanks > Donna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Oh come on! How ridiculous. It is this silly tattling attitude that has us living looking over our shoulder worrying that our neighbours will call and report us because we water on the wrong day. Really! Sherri-Lee Need safe and natural health products? http://www.aloeessence.com Re: h202 Quick, give your friend's name to Homeland Security! 100% h2o2 is rocket fuel... Chuck Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out. On 8/19/2005 2:33:03 PM, CountryGirl (ruthful@...) wrote: > A friend just asked me this: > Do you have an idea where I can get 100 volume H2O2 food grade? > > Does anyone know? I assume that this means 100% > > Thanks > Donna > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Heh, Sherri, You and Saul really need to chill today. It was a tongue-in-cheek observation. Although... trying to buy hazardous explosive materials isn't exactly comparable to watering on the wrong day. Chuck " Houston, we're venting some sort of gas out into space... no wait, it's just me. On 8/19/2005 10:08:43 PM, Sherri-Lee Pressman (sherri--lee@...) wrote: > Oh come on! How ridiculous. It is this silly tattling attitude that has > us > living looking over our shoulder worrying that our neighbours will call > and > report us because we water on the wrong day. > > Really! > > Sherri-Lee > Need safe and natural health products? > http://www.aloeessence.com > Re: h202 > > Quick, give your friend's name to Homeland Security! > > 100% h2o2 is rocket fuel... > > Chuck > > Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your > bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out. > > > On 8/19/2005 2:33:03 PM, CountryGirl (ruthful@...) wrote: > > A friend just asked me this: > > Do you have an idea where I can get 100 volume H2O2 food grade? > > > > Does anyone know? I assume that this means 100% > > > > Thanks > > Donna > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I guess these days this kind of thing hits close to home. Our governments want us to rat out our neighbours and it creates an atmosphere of distrust. It keeps people from getting close to each other because we are always wondering if that friend will turn us in, effectively segregating each of us in our own homes, getting our daily fill of the fear mongering fed to us on TV. Just today in the newspaper it announced that Canada was going to pass legislation allowing the police to intercept emails, nose into our bank accounts and generally stick their noses in our lives. We have no freedoms and are being asked to police each other. Even joking about it scares me because who knows who is really joking. And once we start joking about it it then becomes the norm and accepted and people stop being outraged about the loss of their freedoms. We should not be turning on each other and reporting each other to various government agencies, we should be uniting with each other to eradicate the forces that are trying to enslave us. I don't think I can " chill " about that. Sherri-Lee Need safe and natural health products? http://www.aloeessence.com Re: h202 > > Quick, give your friend's name to Homeland Security! > > 100% h2o2 is rocket fuel... > > Chuck > > Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your > bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out. > > > On 8/19/2005 2:33:03 PM, CountryGirl (ruthful@...) wrote: > > A friend just asked me this: > > Do you have an idea where I can get 100 volume H2O2 food grade? > > > > Does anyone know? I assume that this means 100% > > > > Thanks > > Donna > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 My husband was a refugee as a child in Germany and saw this there. It deeply pains and scares the ____ out of him to see it again here. How can we wake people out of their stupor. Sherri-Lee Pressman wrote: >I guess these days this kind of thing hits close to home. Our governments >want us to rat out our neighbours and it creates an atmosphere of distrust. >It keeps people from getting close to each other because we are always >wondering if that friend will turn us in, effectively segregating each of us >in our own homes, getting our daily fill of the fear mongering fed to us on >TV. > >Just today in the newspaper it announced that Canada was going to pass >legislation allowing the police to intercept emails, nose into our bank >accounts and generally stick their noses in our lives. We have no freedoms >and are being asked to police each other. Even joking about it scares me >because who knows who is really joking. And once we start joking about it it >then becomes the norm and accepted and people stop being outraged about the >loss of their freedoms. > >We should not be turning on each other and reporting each other to various >government agencies, we should be uniting with each other to eradicate the >forces that are trying to enslave us. > >I don't think I can " chill " about that. > >Sherri-Lee >Need safe and natural health products? >http://www.aloeessence.com > > Re: h202 >> >>Quick, give your friend's name to Homeland Security! >> >>100% h2o2 is rocket fuel... >> >>Chuck >> >>Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your >>bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out. >> >> >>On 8/19/2005 2:33:03 PM, CountryGirl (ruthful@...) wrote: >> >> >>>A friend just asked me this: >>>Do you have an idea where I can get 100 volume H2O2 food grade? >>> >>>Does anyone know? I assume that this means 100% >>> >>>Thanks >>>Donna >>> >>> >>> >> >>OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and >> >> >other > > >>alternative self-help subjects. >> >> > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other >alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are >for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing >information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your >own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to >take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to >hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found >here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher >or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following >address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the >message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 > .. We should not be turning on each other and reporting each other to various > government agencies, we should be uniting with each other to eradicate the > forces that are trying to enslave us. > > I don't think I can " chill " about that. Good morning, Sherri-Lee, I think freedom is one of the most priceless privleges one can have. I hope your country will continue to embrace it. I think we have come together (at least on this forum) and do support each other in our quest for health. And I really don't think Chuck's comment of chilling had anything to do with government agencies. However, after reading your email, it shed some light on the frame of mind you and Saul were in yesterday. I suspect it had more to do with what you mentioned than the posts yesterday. I also hope you will come to realize you don't have to fear us (at least not me & and I truly doubt any of us on this forum). Fear is such a negative way to have to live. Be well, Gail ps. On the humorous side: <chuckle> There is just no way Chuck could be a government agent. He's just not longwinded enough! LOL Chuck, I think you are a complete delight. 1) You never post often enough for anybody to get tired of you. 2) Your posts are always short and to the point, just one or two sentences. Easy to comprehend for the mentally challenged like myself. 3) And your dorky little comments you always leave at the end of your post ALWAYS leaves a smile on my face if not an out and out laugh out loud belly laugh. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Gail, What I wrote had absolutely nothing to do with Saul. It was a post in response to someone else's post. Believe it or not, Saul and I don't talk about this list much. I wrote what I did because the " joke " wasn't funny to me and I find it worrisome that that sort of " humour " would be on such an enlightened list of like minded people. It shows me that many here don't really get what this world is about these days. Making " jokes " about turning people into the government for wanting hydrogen peroxide? Not funny. My reaction was my own and completely valid. Saul and I did not share a " frame of mind " yesterday. We posted two completely separate posts on completely different threads on the same list. Please do not lump us together simply because we are married. That is very unfair. I live in Canada and every day we hear how the US is taking over our country. We have no idea how precious freedom is because we have never had it. It is not, however a privilege. That implies that it is something that someone else bestows on us and can take away when ever they want. Freedom is our right. I do not live in fear, which is a real challenge given the head lines in our newspapers these days. And no one said Chuck was a government agent. Where did you get that from? Sherri-Lee Need safe and natural health products? http://www.aloeessence.com Re: h202 > .. We should not be turning on each other and reporting each other to various > government agencies, we should be uniting with each other to eradicate the > forces that are trying to enslave us. > > I don't think I can " chill " about that. Good morning, Sherri-Lee, I think freedom is one of the most priceless privleges one can have. I hope your country will continue to embrace it. I think we have come together (at least on this forum) and do support each other in our quest for health. And I really don't think Chuck's comment of chilling had anything to do with government agencies. However, after reading your email, it shed some light on the frame of mind you and Saul were in yesterday. I suspect it had more to do with what you mentioned than the posts yesterday. I also hope you will come to realize you don't have to fear us (at least not me & and I truly doubt any of us on this forum). Fear is such a negative way to have to live. Be well, Gail ps. On the humorous side: <chuckle> There is just no way Chuck could be a government agent. He's just not longwinded enough! LOL Chuck, I think you are a complete delight. 1) You never post often enough for anybody to get tired of you. 2) Your posts are always short and to the point, just one or two sentences. Easy to comprehend for the mentally challenged like myself. 3) And your dorky little comments you always leave at the end of your post ALWAYS leaves a smile on my face if not an out and out laugh out loud belly laugh. Thanks! OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 If you think of a way let me know, I am at a loss at how asleep people seem to be these days. But then if we don't learn from history, we do tend to repeat it. Sherri-Lee Need safe and natural health products? http://www.aloeessence.com Re: h202 >> >>Quick, give your friend's name to Homeland Security! >> >>100% h2o2 is rocket fuel... >> >>Chuck >> >>Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your >>bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out. >> >> >>On 8/19/2005 2:33:03 PM, CountryGirl (ruthful@...) wrote: >> >> >>>A friend just asked me this: >>>Do you have an idea where I can get 100 volume H2O2 food grade? >>> >>>Does anyone know? I assume that this means 100% >>> >>>Thanks >>>Donna >>> >>> >>> >> >>OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and >> >> >other > > >>alternative self-help subjects. >> >> > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other >alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are >for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing >information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your >own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to >take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to >hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found >here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher >or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following >address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the >message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Good Morning, Sherri-Lee. Ok, I can see this is a subject that you are rightfully very passionate about. I'm not sure if we're really on-topic, but will respond as best I can, but after this I'm dropping it. First, you are right about me not lumping you and Saul together simply because you are married. A common mistake I'm sure. Secondly, In regards to Chuck's post and your response. Because I've seen Chuck on various lists over 4-5 years and have observed his style, to me he's very consistant. Always, keeps things short and often makes jokes while seldom posting at all. I have no doubt he did not mean anything by his post, and as he said, it was a tongue in cheek comment. It felt to me your response was coming more from a place that you are at with the passion you have about losing certain freedoms rather than any threat Chuck was in making his comment. I truly don't think he meant anything at all about it. I think we've already given it way too much time than he ever even thought would happen, and probably more than he ever intended. But ofcourse, he can speak for himself. I also know you never said he was a government agent. It was a joke on my part. One that didn't go over very well with you I see. Lastly, I am shocked at your comment about you not having any idea how precious freedom is because you have never had it! I'm sure there are people in other coutries (especially women) who would love to trade places with you. You are very blessed, Sherri-Lee. You are also right about freedom being a right rather than a privilege. Would that all people all over the wrold live in that right, but sad to say, there is extreme opression (again especially to women) in so many places. Now if I may address Saul so as not to lump you together. I guess I am trying to explain my frame of mind in how I reacted to both you and your wife's posts yesterday. I was very surprised at your response to Al's post. Not because you were making corrections in some of the statements, but rather at the harshness your response carried with it. It just seemed out of character for you to me. If you did not intend any harshness, I apologize. It was the way it came across to me. Then after reading Sherri-Lee's response to Chuck, I just thought maybe there was something else going on that was bothering the two of you rather than the posts themself per se. Again, if I read something into either of your guys' post that neither one of you intended, I apologize. Back to Al's post. As I mentioned I was excited because the article stated this particular medical facility is now using ozone as a treatment therapy for many very serious, life-threating diseases. I really thought that was one of the things you were trying to accomplish: getting it into the main-stream medical field. To me it didn't matter how long ozone has been around or even how it works, rather that they are using it & it is working! I also know that although there are many on this list, there are more that lurk than post. Some with serious illness looking for help, and some too sick to really get involved with posting. I went to the site All posted, and again when Carol Ann posted. It appears they are working very hard trying to help save lifes. Not only are they using ozone, but vitamins, herbs, chelation and many other various alternative treatment as well as main-stream medical treatments. These people seem sincere and diligent in trying to help and are open to what might work. I just thought if I were living with cancer or some other such serious disease, it would be a place that I would like to check out, being I live in Arizona, and thought there might be others lurking in the background that would also like the option of it. So it really saddened me to see you delete the posts from the archives. I hope this post will clear any misunderstand of where I am coming from and what my observations and responses are. Again, if I am off, I apologize. Gail > Gail, > > What I wrote had absolutely nothing to do with Saul. It was a post in > response to someone else's post. Believe it or not, Saul and I don't talk > about this list much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Good Morning, Sherri-Lee. Ok, I can see this is a subject that you are rightfully very passionate about. I'm not sure if we're really on-topic, but will respond as best I can, but after this I'm dropping it. First, you are right about me not lumping you and Saul together simply because you are married. A common mistake I'm sure. Secondly, In regards to Chuck's post and your response. Because I've seen Chuck on various lists over 4-5 years and have observed his style, to me he's very consistant. Always, keeps things short and often makes jokes while seldom posting at all. I have no doubt he did not mean anything by his post, and as he said, it was a tongue in cheek comment. It felt to me your response was coming more from a place that you are at with the passion you have about losing certain freedoms rather than any threat Chuck was in making his comment. I truly don't think he meant anything at all about it. I think we've already given it way too much time than he ever even thought would happen, and probably more than he ever intended. But ofcourse, he can speak for himself. I also know you never said he was a government agent. It was a joke on my part. One that didn't go over very well with you I see. Lastly, I am shocked at your comment about you not having any idea how precious freedom is because you have never had it! I'm sure there are people in other coutries (especially women) who would love to trade places with you. You are very blessed, Sherri-Lee. You are also right about freedom being a right rather than a privilege. Would that all people all over the wrold live in that right, but sad to say, there is extreme opression (again especially to women) in so many places. Now if I may address Saul so as not to lump you together. I guess I am trying to explain my frame of mind in how I reacted to both you and your wife's posts yesterday. I was very surprised at your response to Al's post. Not because you were making corrections in some of the statements, but rather at the harshness your response carried with it. It just seemed out of character for you to me. If you did not intend any harshness, I apologize. It was the way it came across to me. Then after reading Sherri-Lee's response to Chuck, I just thought maybe there was something else going on that was bothering the two of you rather than the posts themself per se. Again, if I read something into either of your guys' post that neither one of you intended, I apologize. Back to Al's post. As I mentioned I was excited because the article stated this particular medical facility is now using ozone as a treatment therapy for many very serious, life-threating diseases. I really thought that was one of the things you were trying to accomplish: getting it into the main-stream medical field. To me it didn't matter how long ozone has been around or even how it works, rather that they are using it & it is working! I also know that although there are many on this list, there are more that lurk than post. Some with serious illness looking for help, and some too sick to really get involved with posting. I went to the site All posted, and again when Carol Ann posted. It appears they are working very hard trying to help save lifes. Not only are they using ozone, but vitamins, herbs, chelation and many other various alternative treatment as well as main-stream medical treatments. These people seem sincere and diligent in trying to help and are open to what might work. I just thought if I were living with cancer or some other such serious disease, it would be a place that I would like to check out, being I live in Arizona, and thought there might be others lurking in the background that would also like the option of it. So it really saddened me to see you delete the posts from the archives. I hope this post will clear any misunderstand of where I am coming from and what my observations and responses are. Again, if I am off, I apologize. Gail > Gail, > > What I wrote had absolutely nothing to do with Saul. It was a post in > response to someone else's post. Believe it or not, Saul and I don't talk > about this list much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 'Morning Gail, Unfortunately, I don't have 4-5 years of reading Chuck's posts. So I had no way to know from the brief post he posted if he was joking or serious. I do see serious comments like this on lists all the time " call the police... call the child protection services... call someone and get them to fix this " it really riles me. I am glad you are so sure Chuck was joking, I had no way to know this and he still hasn't said he was joking, so I only have your word for it. I still think it wasn't a very tasteful joke given the times we are living in and some of the things that are going on these days. We do not have real freedom Gail. We think we do, it looks like we do, but we don't. Especially now. I am sorry you are shocked by my position, but each day I learn how little freedom we have and am shocked at how seemingly intelligent people (like myself) think we are free compared to other countries. Yes other countries have it worse. Women in other countries have it way worse. Does that mean I should just be thankful that my lack of freedom is dressed up prettier? No I can still be outraged at the atrocious lack of freedom we have without being dismissive of other people's situations. I don't think this is off topic at all, simply because if we aren't free how can we be healthy. A lack of freedom expresses itself in many different ways, limits on supplements, difficulty finding reputable ozone generator manufacturers who aren't tossed in jail, freedom to travel where you want (like Cuba) to get alternative treatments (like ozone) for example. That is just the tip of the iceberg. How can we be healthy without freedom? Sherri-Lee Need safe and natural health products? http://www.aloeessence.com Re: h202 Good Morning, Sherri-Lee. Ok, I can see this is a subject that you are rightfully very passionate about. I'm not sure if we're really on-topic, but will respond as best I can, but after this I'm dropping it. First, you are right about me not lumping you and Saul together simply because you are married. A common mistake I'm sure. Secondly, In regards to Chuck's post and your response. Because I've seen Chuck on various lists over 4-5 years and have observed his style, to me he's very consistant. Always, keeps things short and often makes jokes while seldom posting at all. I have no doubt he did not mean anything by his post, and as he said, it was a tongue in cheek comment. It felt to me your response was coming more from a place that you are at with the passion you have about losing certain freedoms rather than any threat Chuck was in making his comment. I truly don't think he meant anything at all about it. I think we've already given it way too much time than he ever even thought would happen, and probably more than he ever intended. But ofcourse, he can speak for himself. I also know you never said he was a government agent. It was a joke on my part. One that didn't go over very well with you I see. Lastly, I am shocked at your comment about you not having any idea how precious freedom is because you have never had it! I'm sure there are people in other coutries (especially women) who would love to trade places with you. You are very blessed, Sherri-Lee. You are also right about freedom being a right rather than a privilege. Would that all people all over the wrold live in that right, but sad to say, there is extreme opression (again especially to women) in so many places. Now if I may address Saul so as not to lump you together. I guess I am trying to explain my frame of mind in how I reacted to both you and your wife's posts yesterday. I was very surprised at your response to Al's post. Not because you were making corrections in some of the statements, but rather at the harshness your response carried with it. It just seemed out of character for you to me. If you did not intend any harshness, I apologize. It was the way it came across to me. Then after reading Sherri-Lee's response to Chuck, I just thought maybe there was something else going on that was bothering the two of you rather than the posts themself per se. Again, if I read something into either of your guys' post that neither one of you intended, I apologize. Back to Al's post. As I mentioned I was excited because the article stated this particular medical facility is now using ozone as a treatment therapy for many very serious, life-threating diseases. I really thought that was one of the things you were trying to accomplish: getting it into the main-stream medical field. To me it didn't matter how long ozone has been around or even how it works, rather that they are using it & it is working! I also know that although there are many on this list, there are more that lurk than post. Some with serious illness looking for help, and some too sick to really get involved with posting. I went to the site All posted, and again when Carol Ann posted. It appears they are working very hard trying to help save lifes. Not only are they using ozone, but vitamins, herbs, chelation and many other various alternative treatment as well as main-stream medical treatments. These people seem sincere and diligent in trying to help and are open to what might work. I just thought if I were living with cancer or some other such serious disease, it would be a place that I would like to check out, being I live in Arizona, and thought there might be others lurking in the background that would also like the option of it. So it really saddened me to see you delete the posts from the archives. I hope this post will clear any misunderstand of where I am coming from and what my observations and responses are. Again, if I am off, I apologize. Gail > Gail, > > What I wrote had absolutely nothing to do with Saul. It was a post in > response to someone else's post. Believe it or not, Saul and I don't talk > about this list much. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. 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