Re: Candida and Cold Sores

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee...... yes I did read that but I was looking for diet information with

regards to general healthy people not Candida sufferers... the article is about

Candida.

> >

> > Ok thanks for that. I think I'm gradually starting to work it out! Lastly...

could you clear things up for me with the basics.. bread, milk and cheese?

> >

> > Obviously bread is bad for Candida sufferers as it contains yeast, but is it

ok in moderation for healthy people? I assume it's potentially bad because of

the gluten and white flour/wheat being a grain and it being a soy derivative? Is

there any bread which is better? White or brown?

> >

> > I think that I read that butter is better and milk should be minimised as it

is high in carbohydrates. Could you add anything to this... is milk/cheese ok

for healthy/non candida sufferers?

> >

> > I have previously thought that cows milk is not good due to modern day

farming techniques, pasteurization, homogenisation and being mucous forming. I

thought that organic goat or sheeps milk is ok though for various reasons. Is

that right?

> >

> > I have done searches and can't find much relating to bread, milk, cheese so

if there's anything that I've missed then please link me to it.

>

> +++Hi Will. It appears as if you haven't read my main candida article, since

everything you are asking about is in it - How to Successfully Overcome Candida

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

>

> But I'll help you find some things:

>

> 1) Bread and pasta are made from grains, and all grains are starchy foods

which act just like sugar, and also need to be prepared properly even for

healthy people - here's the section that explains what is wrong with them, aside

from the yeast issue:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s21

>

> Some grains today aren't fit to eat since they are genetically modified and

also contain fungal-type toxins, called mycotoxins, that cannot be removed even

by soaking, which are damaging to anyone's health; mainly wheat, rye, barley,

oats, corn. Other foods are also mycotoxic.

>

> All white or enriched flour/breads or pasta are not okay for healthy people

because they bind up minerals in the body, and they interfere with protein

digestion; of course that is true for any grains, nuts, seeds and legumes not

properly prepared.

>

> Bread that is okay for healthy people are whole grains (ground properly, not

under high heat or friction) and using the sour dough method of making it, and

not using genetically modified or mycotoxic grains. That means making it

themselves since any flour on the market isn't the right kind of grains and/or

aren't prepared prior to grinding and/or are incomplete grains etc. Even sour

dough breads at health stores aren't made properly.

>

> +++All soybeans are all genetically modified and damaging to anyone's health,

along with any soy products like oil, tofu, sauces, etc.

>

> +++All peanuts and pastachio nuts contain mycotoxins (fungal-toxins) which

damage anyone's health like the noted grains above.

>

> 2) Dairy products, i.e. milk, cheese, butter, etc. - here's the section about

dairy products which contain lactose, a sugar, except for butter:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s18

>

> The rule about lactose is that the higher the butterfat content, the less

lactose, so that's why butter is okay for candida since it has very little

lactose in it. Also butterfat in dairy helps our bodies digest lactose and

proteins in them. Healthy people can have dairy products in addition to butter

if they choose those that are high in butterfat content.

>

> I encourage you to thoroughly read my main candida article, and for more

information also read Foods That Damage, Foods That Heal, which is for healthy

people:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal13.php

>

> I hope that helps, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Will,

Re-read the information Bee shared with you here because it DOES address your

questions of what bread is ok for generally healthy poeple. It DOES address how

to choose dairy products that are ok for generally healthy people, etc.

Jackie

(group moderator)

> > >

> > > Ok thanks for that. I think I'm gradually starting to work it out!

Lastly... could you clear things up for me with the basics.. bread, milk and

cheese?

> > >

> > > Obviously bread is bad for Candida sufferers as it contains yeast, but is

it ok in moderation for healthy people? I assume it's potentially bad because of

the gluten and white flour/wheat being a grain and it being a soy derivative? Is

there any bread which is better? White or brown?

> > >

> > > I think that I read that butter is better and milk should be minimised as

it is high in carbohydrates. Could you add anything to this... is milk/cheese ok

for healthy/non candida sufferers?

> > >

> > > I have previously thought that cows milk is not good due to modern day

farming techniques, pasteurization, homogenisation and being mucous forming. I

thought that organic goat or sheeps milk is ok though for various reasons. Is

that right?

> > >

> > > I have done searches and can't find much relating to bread, milk, cheese

so if there's anything that I've missed then please link me to it.

> >

> > +++Hi Will. It appears as if you haven't read my main candida article,

since everything you are asking about is in it - How to Successfully Overcome

Candida

> > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

> >

> > But I'll help you find some things:

> >

> > 1) Bread and pasta are made from grains, and all grains are starchy foods

which act just like sugar, and also need to be prepared properly even for

healthy people - here's the section that explains what is wrong with them, aside

from the yeast issue:

> > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s21

> >

> > Some grains today aren't fit to eat since they are genetically modified and

also contain fungal-type toxins, called mycotoxins, that cannot be removed even

by soaking, which are damaging to anyone's health; mainly wheat, rye, barley,

oats, corn. Other foods are also mycotoxic.

> >

> > All white or enriched flour/breads or pasta are not okay for healthy people

because they bind up minerals in the body, and they interfere with protein

digestion; of course that is true for any grains, nuts, seeds and legumes not

properly prepared.

> >

> > Bread that is okay for healthy people are whole grains (ground properly, not

under high heat or friction) and using the sour dough method of making it, and

not using genetically modified or mycotoxic grains. That means making it

themselves since any flour on the market isn't the right kind of grains and/or

aren't prepared prior to grinding and/or are incomplete grains etc. Even sour

dough breads at health stores aren't made properly.

> >

> > +++All soybeans are all genetically modified and damaging to anyone's

health, along with any soy products like oil, tofu, sauces, etc.

> >

> > +++All peanuts and pastachio nuts contain mycotoxins (fungal-toxins) which

damage anyone's health like the noted grains above.

> >

> > 2) Dairy products, i.e. milk, cheese, butter, etc. - here's the section

about dairy products which contain lactose, a sugar, except for butter:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s18

> >

> > The rule about lactose is that the higher the butterfat content, the less

lactose, so that's why butter is okay for candida since it has very little

lactose in it. Also butterfat in dairy helps our bodies digest lactose and

proteins in them. Healthy people can have dairy products in addition to butter

if they choose those that are high in butterfat content.

> >

> > I encourage you to thoroughly read my main candida article, and for more

information also read Foods That Damage, Foods That Heal, which is for healthy

people:

> > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal13.php

> >

> > I hope that helps, Bee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee...... yes I did read that but I was looking for diet information with

regards to general healthy people not Candida sufferers... the article is about

Candida.

>

+++Hi Will. I gave you the reference for healthy people which is Foods That

Damage, Foods That Heal.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Well done Jackie. I'm glad that it DOES contain that information.

> > > >

> > > > Ok thanks for that. I think I'm gradually starting to work it out!

Lastly... could you clear things up for me with the basics.. bread, milk and

cheese?

> > > >

> > > > Obviously bread is bad for Candida sufferers as it contains yeast, but

is it ok in moderation for healthy people? I assume it's potentially bad because

of the gluten and white flour/wheat being a grain and it being a soy derivative?

Is there any bread which is better? White or brown?

> > > >

> > > > I think that I read that butter is better and milk should be minimised

as it is high in carbohydrates. Could you add anything to this... is milk/cheese

ok for healthy/non candida sufferers?

> > > >

> > > > I have previously thought that cows milk is not good due to modern day

farming techniques, pasteurization, homogenisation and being mucous forming. I

thought that organic goat or sheeps milk is ok though for various reasons. Is

that right?

> > > >

> > > > I have done searches and can't find much relating to bread, milk, cheese

so if there's anything that I've missed then please link me to it.

> > >

> > > +++Hi Will. It appears as if you haven't read my main candida article,

since everything you are asking about is in it - How to Successfully Overcome

Candida

> > > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

> > >

> > > But I'll help you find some things:

> > >

> > > 1) Bread and pasta are made from grains, and all grains are starchy foods

which act just like sugar, and also need to be prepared properly even for

healthy people - here's the section that explains what is wrong with them, aside

from the yeast issue:

> > > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s21

> > >

> > > Some grains today aren't fit to eat since they are genetically modified

and also contain fungal-type toxins, called mycotoxins, that cannot be removed

even by soaking, which are damaging to anyone's health; mainly wheat, rye,

barley, oats, corn. Other foods are also mycotoxic.

> > >

> > > All white or enriched flour/breads or pasta are not okay for healthy

people because they bind up minerals in the body, and they interfere with

protein digestion; of course that is true for any grains, nuts, seeds and

legumes not properly prepared.

> > >

> > > Bread that is okay for healthy people are whole grains (ground properly,

not under high heat or friction) and using the sour dough method of making it,

and not using genetically modified or mycotoxic grains. That means making it

themselves since any flour on the market isn't the right kind of grains and/or

aren't prepared prior to grinding and/or are incomplete grains etc. Even sour

dough breads at health stores aren't made properly.

> > >

> > > +++All soybeans are all genetically modified and damaging to anyone's

health, along with any soy products like oil, tofu, sauces, etc.

> > >

> > > +++All peanuts and pastachio nuts contain mycotoxins (fungal-toxins) which

damage anyone's health like the noted grains above.

> > >

> > > 2) Dairy products, i.e. milk, cheese, butter, etc. - here's the section

about dairy products which contain lactose, a sugar, except for butter:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s18

> > >

> > > The rule about lactose is that the higher the butterfat content, the less

lactose, so that's why butter is okay for candida since it has very little

lactose in it. Also butterfat in dairy helps our bodies digest lactose and

proteins in them. Healthy people can have dairy products in addition to butter

if they choose those that are high in butterfat content.

> > >

> > > I encourage you to thoroughly read my main candida article, and for more

information also read Foods That Damage, Foods That Heal, which is for healthy

people:

> > > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal13.php

> > >

> > > I hope that helps, Bee

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think this is a good simple explanation of the germ theory;

http://www.scribd.com/doc/413535/3-Step-The-Real-Cause-of-Diseases

It would be good if this site had some simple explanations or conclusions like

this that are easy to understand without having to read through pages of

information first.

Going back to the the cold sore subject... I don't really understand how you

can't catch this virus as the theory goes; 'You do not " Catch " Germs, Bacteria

or Viruses'. If I've never had a cold sore before but then kissed someone with a

cold sore and now I have cold sores, how can I not have caught this virus?

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok thanks for that. I think I'm gradually starting to work it out!

Lastly... could you clear things up for me with the basics.. bread, milk and

cheese?

> > > > >

> > > > > Obviously bread is bad for Candida sufferers as it contains yeast, but

is it ok in moderation for healthy people? I assume it's potentially bad because

of the gluten and white flour/wheat being a grain and it being a soy derivative?

Is there any bread which is better? White or brown?

> > > > >

> > > > > I think that I read that butter is better and milk should be minimised

as it is high in carbohydrates. Could you add anything to this... is milk/cheese

ok for healthy/non candida sufferers?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have previously thought that cows milk is not good due to modern day

farming techniques, pasteurization, homogenisation and being mucous forming. I

thought that organic goat or sheeps milk is ok though for various reasons. Is

that right?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have done searches and can't find much relating to bread, milk,

cheese so if there's anything that I've missed then please link me to it.

> > > >

> > > > +++Hi Will. It appears as if you haven't read my main candida article,

since everything you are asking about is in it - How to Successfully Overcome

Candida

> > > > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

> > > >

> > > > But I'll help you find some things:

> > > >

> > > > 1) Bread and pasta are made from grains, and all grains are starchy

foods which act just like sugar, and also need to be prepared properly even for

healthy people - here's the section that explains what is wrong with them, aside

from the yeast issue:

> > > > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s21

> > > >

> > > > Some grains today aren't fit to eat since they are genetically modified

and also contain fungal-type toxins, called mycotoxins, that cannot be removed

even by soaking, which are damaging to anyone's health; mainly wheat, rye,

barley, oats, corn. Other foods are also mycotoxic.

> > > >

> > > > All white or enriched flour/breads or pasta are not okay for healthy

people because they bind up minerals in the body, and they interfere with

protein digestion; of course that is true for any grains, nuts, seeds and

legumes not properly prepared.

> > > >

> > > > Bread that is okay for healthy people are whole grains (ground properly,

not under high heat or friction) and using the sour dough method of making it,

and not using genetically modified or mycotoxic grains. That means making it

themselves since any flour on the market isn't the right kind of grains and/or

aren't prepared prior to grinding and/or are incomplete grains etc. Even sour

dough breads at health stores aren't made properly.

> > > >

> > > > +++All soybeans are all genetically modified and damaging to anyone's

health, along with any soy products like oil, tofu, sauces, etc.

> > > >

> > > > +++All peanuts and pastachio nuts contain mycotoxins (fungal-toxins)

which damage anyone's health like the noted grains above.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Dairy products, i.e. milk, cheese, butter, etc. - here's the section

about dairy products which contain lactose, a sugar, except for butter:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s18

> > > >

> > > > The rule about lactose is that the higher the butterfat content, the

less lactose, so that's why butter is okay for candida since it has very little

lactose in it. Also butterfat in dairy helps our bodies digest lactose and

proteins in them. Healthy people can have dairy products in addition to butter

if they choose those that are high in butterfat content.

> > > >

> > > > I encourage you to thoroughly read my main candida article, and for more

information also read Foods That Damage, Foods That Heal, which is for healthy

people:

> > > > http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal13.php

> > > >

> > > > I hope that helps, Bee

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think the factor is sugar.... the factor is just chocolate. I know of

many people (and have read many articles) suffering from cold sores after eating

chocolate, but not sugar in general. It's easy to say that sugar is the cause of

all illness but there may be other factors. I have eaten minimal sugar for 1

year and even less in the last month... at which time I got my worst cold sore.

> > >

> > > Ok thanks but mid December is less than 2 months away! Chocolate sets up

an environment that is beneficial for cold sores because it is high in Arginine.

> > >

> >

> > /// true, but there has to be more then just arginine in chocolate that

affect the immune system, there are hundreds of different chemicals in

chocolate, how can one thing be isolated and blamed?

> >

> > Chantal

>

> @@ Snip

>

> @@ Hi Will ,

>

> In Chocolate , a larger factor would be " Sugar " . Furthermore , if a

person's immune system is depressed they can have a reaction such as cold sores

due to Sugar , Processed foods , Fumes , Chemicals ... etc . Every individual's

trigger is different !

>

> Cold sores are a healing / detox reaction . Moreover , for the sake of

argument , Arginine is manufactured by the body . Thus while an increase might

throw off Lysine absorption , the Sugar would do more considerable overall

damage , in my humble opinion .

>

> Bottom line , gradually get on the full diet & supplements and do the best you

can and remember " Everyone " varies how ill they are and progresses at

different rates in their healing .

>

> Lastly , Everyone , if you are ill , your dietary requirements will be higher

and your daily life must be more strict , health wise , compared to a healthy

person like " Bee " . Therefore , it is no use you ask Bee or compare her daily

requirements or daily life practices to your own .

>

> A healthy person's daily MAINTENANCE requirements are going to differ from

your requirements you need to REGAIN your health ! Its as simple as that .....

No disrespect or animosity intended towards anyone .

> Best in all your endeavors on your journey towards health .

>

> Respectably,

> Ed

>

[Guest guest]

Ok Chantal... please let me know if you get another cold sore whilst on this

diet. I'm interested to know what works, thanks.

> >

> > Ok thanks but mid December is less than 2 months away! Chocolate sets up an

environment that is beneficial for cold sores because it is high in Arginine.

> >

>

> /// true, but there has to be more then just arginine in chocolate that affect

the immune system, there are hundreds of different chemicals in chocolate, how

can one thing be isolated and blamed?

>

> i did try to supplement with Lysine in the past and it seemed i was getting

cold sore just the same. those aminos are not the be all end all of cold sore

factor. like i also mentionned, hubby's diet had not changed, just the caulking

in the window and it made him have a cold sore because his immune system was

affected.

>

> 2 month is not long but it's a start, not the first time i go low carb though.

but with this diet, there was one change that was almost immediate. i can sleep

without sleep aid for the first time in ages.

>

> Chantal

>

[Guest guest]

>

<snip>

> Going back to the the cold sore subject... I don't really understand how you

can't catch this virus as the theory goes; 'You do not " Catch " Germs, Bacteria

or Viruses'. If I've never had a cold sore before but then kissed someone with a

cold sore and now I have cold sores, how can I not have caught this virus?

+++Hi Will. That is because a cold sore is not caused by bugs of any kind, so

getting a cold sore after kissing was a coincidence (happened at the same time

but were not related).

A cold sore is caused by toxins coming out through the skin, which is the same

reason for any skin abnormalities, i.e. warts, moles, skin tags, rashes, aging

spots, and numerous others.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Ok Chantal... please let me know if you get another cold sore whilst on this

diet. I'm interested to know what works, thanks

+++Hi Will. Chantal may get many cold sores before her body heals completely,

since they are toxins coming out through the skin.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> +++Hi Will. That is because a cold sore is not caused by bugs of any kind, so

getting a cold sore after kissing was a coincidence (happened at the same time

but were not related).

>

> I can't believe that you've said this and it is making me doubt a lot of these

theories. I have never had a cold sore in 28 years. I starting going out with a

girl that had a cold sore... I made contact with the cold sore and now I get

reoccurring cold sores.

>

> So it's also a coincidence that if someone has sex with someone with Herpes or

AIDS and they then show symptoms of Herpes or AIDS for the rest of their lives

that is just a coincidence? This can't be a coincidence!

+++Hi Will. YES that is also coincidence, since such diseases cannot be

transmitted sexually. You can no more " catch " something like that from someone

else than you can " catch " their broken finger or their lack of nutrition.

Unfortunately, many couples' relationships were totally ruined by that false

propaganda for many years! Many people are even now going to jail for

unprotected sex!

One member of this group also found out that was false, and until she and her

fiance sorted it out and learned the truth their relationship was in jeopardy.

She got a " supposedly " sexually transmitted disease and was devastated because

of it, and that it " had to be her fiance " who gave it to her. He went for

testing and didn't have it! Her own Mother had also accused her of having sex

when she was still a virgin because she got an infection that falls into that

same category.

Don't you realize how insane most information IS out there! It's all about the

money and it is making people sicker and sicker.

Does it make sense to you that if you treat your body the way Nature intended

your body will heal itself naturally?

If you don't then this group isn't the place for you my friend. You would just

become more and more frustrated.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Does it make sense to you that if you treat your body the way Nature intended

your body will heal itself naturally?

>> Of course it does makes sense! Although that is not relevant to what I'm

questioning here. Surely it's just logic that if someone doesn't have the

symptoms of AIDS (for example) but then has sex with someone that does have the

symptoms of AIDS... and then gets these symptoms then it must have been 'caught'

or at least that sexual contact has triggered something. I don't understand how

you can see that this as a coincidence. You have this theory of health and diet

which seems to be blinkering all common sense and logic. Can you not understand

why I'm questioning this... it's not because I've been drip-fed information by

doctors or society, it just comes down to logic.

I'm not here to argue for the sake of it. I'm intrigued by all of this

information and the diet and I strongly believe that you can control your health

by your diet but I just don't understand this theory of not being able to catch

viruses... it just seems impossible by logic and probability.

PS I tried to edit my last message to correct some spelling but deleted it by

accident.

> >

> > +++Hi Will. That is because a cold sore is not caused by bugs of any kind,

so getting a cold sore after kissing was a coincidence (happened at the same

time but were not related).

> >

> > I can't believe that you've said this and it is making me doubt a lot of

these theories. I have never had a cold sore in 28 years. I starting going out

with a girl that had a cold sore... I made contact with the cold sore and now I

get reoccurring cold sores.

> >

> > So it's also a coincidence that if someone has sex with someone with Herpes

or AIDS and they then show symptoms of Herpes or AIDS for the rest of their

lives that is just a coincidence? This can't be a coincidence!

>

> +++Hi Will. YES that is also coincidence, since such diseases cannot be

transmitted sexually. You can no more " catch " something like that from someone

else than you can " catch " their broken finger or their lack of nutrition.

>

> Unfortunately, many couples' relationships were totally ruined by that false

propaganda for many years! Many people are even now going to jail for

unprotected sex!

>

> One member of this group also found out that was false, and until she and her

fiance sorted it out and learned the truth their relationship was in jeopardy.

She got a " supposedly " sexually transmitted disease and was devastated because

of it, and that it " had to be her fiance " who gave it to her. He went for

testing and didn't have it! Her own Mother had also accused her of having sex

when she was still a virgin because she got an infection that falls into that

same category.

>

> Don't you realize how insane most information IS out there! It's all about the

money and it is making people sicker and sicker.

>

> Does it make sense to you that if you treat your body the way Nature intended

your body will heal itself naturally?

>

> If you don't then this group isn't the place for you my friend. You would

just become more and more frustrated.

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Here's another example. My sister just returned from Japan with a cold, and

everyone else in the family has now got a cold. Is this a coincidence?

> >

> > +++Hi Will. That is because a cold sore is not caused by bugs of any kind,

so getting a cold sore after kissing was a coincidence (happened at the same

time but were not related).

> >

> > I can't believe that you've said this and it is making me doubt a lot of

these theories. I have never had a cold sore in 28 years. I starting going out

with a girl that had a cold sore... I made contact with the cold sore and now I

get reoccurring cold sores.

> >

> > So it's also a coincidence that if someone has sex with someone with Herpes

or AIDS and they then show symptoms of Herpes or AIDS for the rest of their

lives that is just a coincidence? This can't be a coincidence!

>

> +++Hi Will. YES that is also coincidence, since such diseases cannot be

transmitted sexually. You can no more " catch " something like that from someone

else than you can " catch " their broken finger or their lack of nutrition.

>

> Unfortunately, many couples' relationships were totally ruined by that false

propaganda for many years! Many people are even now going to jail for

unprotected sex!

>

> One member of this group also found out that was false, and until she and her

fiance sorted it out and learned the truth their relationship was in jeopardy.

She got a " supposedly " sexually transmitted disease and was devastated because

of it, and that it " had to be her fiance " who gave it to her. He went for

testing and didn't have it! Her own Mother had also accused her of having sex

when she was still a virgin because she got an infection that falls into that

same category.

>

> Don't you realize how insane most information IS out there! It's all about the

money and it is making people sicker and sicker.

>

> Does it make sense to you that if you treat your body the way Nature intended

your body will heal itself naturally?

>

> If you don't then this group isn't the place for you my friend. You would

just become more and more frustrated.

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Will, let me chime in here. I haven't had a cold or sinus or any illness in

over 5 years. My daughter, her hubby & grand-daughter live right next door,

often sick with sinus or bronchitis & I'm around them every day.

I can only conclude that my immune system is finally strong enough to resist

catching ailments from other people. I think that's our goal.

Best to you, Susie

>

> Here's another example. My sister just returned from Japan with a cold, and

everyone else in the family has now got a cold. Is this a coincidence?

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Does it make sense to you that if you treat your body the way Nature intended

your body will heal itself naturally?

>

> >> Of course it does makes sense! Although that is not relevant to what I'm

questioning here. Surely it's just logic that if someone doesn't have the

symptoms of AIDS (for example) but then has sex with someone that does have the

symptoms of AIDS... and then gets these symptoms then it must have been 'caught'

or at least that sexual contact has triggered something. I don't understand how

you can see that this as a coincidence. You have this theory of health and diet

which seems to be blinkering all common sense and logic. Can you not understand

why I'm questioning this... it's not because I've been drip-fed information by

doctors or society, it just comes down to logic.

>

>

@@ Snip

@@ Hi Will,

We all have been manipulated by the medical system , the media and education

system . Thus , I and many others relate to where you are coming from .

According to the link you submitted earlier below ;

Link :

http://www.scribd.com/doc/413535/3-Step-The-Real-Cause-of-Diseases

You agreed and understood it and I reviewed it and seems spot on . So that's

good you are slowly understanding the " Germ Theory " . Its a tough nut to get

your head around , I understand . However , if you understood the above linked

article , I think its fair to say , you've acquired a good grasp of the " Germ

Theory " .

I advise you or anyone that is having a difficult time comprehending the " Germ

Theory " .. go to the above link and read and review it . By the way , " Will "

, that article is a great explanation , nice discovery and thanks for sharing

Ok , let us leave this for a moment .

" AIDS " is a false manufactured concept by a fame seeking scientist.

He skipped some procedures in the scientific community in order to get his

theory published . Near afterward , the pharmaceutical industry developed drugs

like " AZT " as a cure . When in fact , it cause the body to react powerfully

to this extremely toxic drug and in conjunction with media hype and

misinformation " AiDs " made its debut . As they say , " follow the money " .

Furthermore , one could also question , why is it not everyone that has sex with

someone , whom has the supposed AIDS Symptoms contracts AIDS / HIV ? Why is it

that someone in a family doesn't catch the cold/flu , while the rest of the

family does ? Try explaining this , if you are skeptical of the " Germ Theory "

..

Its all well to have questions , but one has to have answers or find their own

answers , sometimes too . No disrespect intended nor am I trying to argue

neither .

For your convenience alongside some validation , I invite you and everyone to

watch the video , below , I uploaded to my site . Its by Pe­ter Deus­berg a 30

year vi­rol­o­gist , whom ex­plains why AiDs can­not be a re­al STD , but rather

a man made hoax . Check it out !

AiDs A Hoax - 10 Reasons Why : http://tinyurl.com/yarrk8d

" Will " , the bottom line , is the diet program works if you give it a chance

and really is UNNECESSARY if you comprehend theories , chemical reactions , or

its pathways . Its irrelevant in regards to its success and effectiveness .

A practitioner , for example , is not going to explain theories , biomechanics

or whatnot to you or I . They either say , we except their help or we don't !

Done deal . Its up to us to investigate , if NECESSARY .

I can tell you from experience from researching , that if you want to prove a

theory has merit , you have read through numerous articles and/or listen to

numerous lectures to see if you get similar consistencies , answers or ideas .

Or maybe personal experience . Then the most stubborn individuals have true

closure .

But time and Energy is precious , so one better be certain its worth their while

and makes a difference in the outcome .

Until then.

Be Well,

Ed

P.S - Apologies for the verbosity

[Guest guest]

>

> Does it make sense to you that if you treat your body the way Nature intended

your body will heal itself naturally?

>

> >> Of course it does makes sense! Although that is not relevant to what I'm

questioning here. Surely it's just logic that if someone doesn't have the

symptoms of AIDS (for example) but then has sex with someone that does have the

symptoms of AIDS... and then gets these symptoms then it must have been 'caught'

or at least that sexual contact has triggered something. I don't understand how

you can see that this as a coincidence. You have this theory of health and diet

which seems to be blinkering all common sense and logic. Can you not understand

why I'm questioning this... it's not because I've been drip-fed information by

doctors or society, it just comes down to logic.

>

>

@@ Snip

@@ Hi Will,

We all have been manipulated by the medical system , the media and education

system . Thus , I and many others relate to where you are coming from .

According to the link you submitted earlier below ;

Link :

http://www.scribd.com/doc/413535/3-Step-The-Real-Cause-of-Diseases

You agreed and understood it and I reviewed it and seems spot on . So that's

good you are slowly understanding the " Germ Theory " . Its a tough nut to get

your head around , I understand . However , if you understood the above linked

article , I think its fair to say , you've acquired a good grasp of the " Germ

Theory " .

I advise you or anyone that is having a difficult time comprehending the " Germ

Theory " .. go to the above link and read and review it . By the way , " Will "

, that article is a great explanation , nice discovery and thanks for sharing

Ok , let us leave this for a moment .

" AIDS " is a false manufactured concept by a fame seeking scientist.

He skipped some procedures in the scientific community in order to get his

theory published . Near afterward , the pharmaceutical industry developed drugs

like " AZT " as a cure . When in fact , it cause the body to react powerfully

to this extremely toxic drug and in conjunction with media hype and

misinformation " AiDs " made its debut . As they say , " follow the money " .

Furthermore , one could also question , why is it not everyone that has sex with

someone , whom has the supposed AIDS Symptoms contracts AIDS / HIV ? Why is it

that someone in a family doesn't catch the cold/flu , while the rest of the

family does ? Try explaining this , if you are skeptical of the " Germ Theory "

..

Its all well to have questions , but one has to have answers or find their own

answers , sometimes too . No disrespect intended nor am I trying to argue

neither .

For your convenience alongside some validation , I invite you and everyone to

watch the video , below , I uploaded to my site . Its by Pe­ter Deus­berg a 30

year vi­rol­o­gist , whom ex­plains why AiDs can­not be a re­al STD , but rather

a man made hoax . Check it out !

AiDs A Hoax - 10 Reasons Why : http://tinyurl.com/yarrk8d

" Will " , the bottom line , is the diet program works if you give it a chance

and really is UNNECESSARY if you comprehend theories , chemical reactions , or

its pathways . Its irrelevant in regards to its success and effectiveness .

A practitioner , for example , is not going to explain theories , biomechanics

or whatnot to you or I . They either say , we except their help or we don't !

Done deal . Its up to us to investigate , if NECESSARY .

I can tell you from experience from researching , that if you want to prove a

theory has merit , you have read through numerous articles and/or listen to

numerous lectures to see if you get similar consistencies , answers or ideas .

Or maybe personal experience . Then the most stubborn individuals have true

closure .

But time and Energy is precious , so one better be certain its worth their while

and makes a difference in the outcome .

Until then.

Be Well,

Ed

P.S - Apologies for the verbosity

[Guest guest]

>

> Does it make sense to you that if you treat your body the way Nature intended

your body will heal itself naturally?

>

> >> Of course it does makes sense! Although that is not relevant to what I'm

questioning here. Surely it's just logic that if someone doesn't have the

symptoms of AIDS (for example) but then has sex with someone that does have the

symptoms of AIDS... and then gets these symptoms then it must have been 'caught'

or at least that sexual contact has triggered something. I don't understand how

you can see that this as a coincidence. You have this theory of health and diet

which seems to be blinkering all common sense and logic. Can you not understand

why I'm questioning this... it's not because I've been drip-fed information by

doctors or society, it just comes down to logic.

>

@@ Snip

@@ Hi Will,

We all have been manipulated by the medical system , the media and education

system . Thus , I and many others relate to where you are coming from .

According to the link you submitted earlier below ;

Link :

http://www.scribd.com/doc/413535/3-Step-The-Real-Cause-of-Diseases

You agreed and understood it and I reviewed it and seems spot on . So that's

good you are slowly understanding the " Germ Theory " . Its a tough nut to get

your head around , I understand . However , if you understood the above linked

article , I think its fair to say , you've acquired a good grasp of the " Germ

Theory " .

I advise you or anyone that is having a difficult time comprehending the " Germ

Theory " .. go to the above link and read and review it . By the way , " Will "

, that article is a great explanation , nice discovery and thanks for sharing

Ok , let us leave this for a moment .

" AIDS " is a false manufactured concept by a fame seeking scientist.

He skipped some procedures in the scientific community in order to get his

theory published . Near afterward , the pharmaceutical industry developed drugs

like " AZT " as a cure . When in fact , it cause the body to react powerfully to

this extremely toxic drug and in conjunction with media hype and misinformation

" AiDs " made its debut . As they say , " follow the money " .

Furthermore , one could also question , why is it not everyone that has sex with

someone , whom has the supposed AIDS Symptoms contracts AIDS / HIV ? Why is it

that someone in a family doesn't catch the cold/flu , while the rest of the

family does ? Try explaining this , if you are skeptical of the " Germ Theory "

..

Its all well to have questions , but one has to have answers or find their own

answers , sometimes too . No disrespect intended nor am I trying to argue

neither .

For your convenience alongside some validation , I invite you and everyone to

watch the video , below , I uploaded to my site . Its by Pe­ter Deus­berg a 30

year vi­rol­o­gist , whom ex­plains why AiDs can­not be a re­al STD , but rather

a man made hoax . Check it out !

AiDs A Hoax - 10 Reasons Why : http://tinyurl.com/yarrk8d

" Will " , the bottom line , is the diet program works if you give it a chance

and really is UNNECESSARY if you comprehend theories , chemical reactions , or

its pathways . Its irrelevant in regards to its success and effectiveness .

A practitioner , for example , is not going to explain theories , biomechanics

or whatnot to you or I . They either say , we except their help or we don't !

Done deal . Its up to us to investigate , if NECESSARY .

I can tell you from experience from researching , that if you want to prove a

theory has merit , you have to read through numerous articles and/or listen to

numerous lectures to see if you get similar consistencies , answers or ideas

surfacing . Then without doubt , I suppose the person will have true closure

and prove it true or false .

But time and Energy is precious , so one better be certain its worth their while

and makes a difference in the outcome .

Until then.

Be Well,

Ed

P.S - Apologies for the verbosity

If this double posts , blame

[Guest guest]

>

> Does it make sense to you that if you treat your body the way Nature intended

your body will heal itself naturally?

>

> >> Of course it does makes sense! Although that is not relevant to what I'm

questioning here. Surely it's just logic that if someone doesn't have the

symptoms of AIDS (for example) but then has sex with someone that does have the

symptoms of AIDS... and then gets these symptoms then it must have been 'caught'

or at least that sexual contact has triggered something. I don't understand how

you can see that this as a coincidence. You have this theory of health and diet

which seems to be blinkering all common sense and logic. Can you not understand

why I'm questioning this... it's not because I've been drip-fed information by

doctors or society, it just comes down to logic.

>

@@ Snip

@@ Hi Will,

We all have been manipulated by the medical system , the media and education

system . Thus , I and many others relate to where you are coming from .

According to the link you submitted earlier below ;

Link :

http://www.scribd.com/doc/413535/3-Step-The-Real-Cause-of-Diseases

You agreed and understood it and I reviewed it and seems spot on . So that's

good you are slowly understanding the " Germ Theory " . Its a tough nut to get

your head around , I understand . However , if you understood the above linked

article , I think its fair to say , you've acquired a good grasp of the " Germ

Theory " .

I advise you or anyone that is having a difficult time comprehending the " Germ

Theory " .. go to the above link and read and review it . By the way , " Will "

, that article is a great explanation , nice discovery and thanks for sharing

Ok , let us leave this for a moment and address the AIDS issue .

" AIDS " is a false manufactured concept by a fame seeking scientist.

He skipped some procedures in the scientific community in order to get his

theory published . Near afterward , the pharmaceutical industry developed drugs

like " AZT " as a cure . When in fact , it cause the body to react powerfully to

this extremely toxic drug and in conjunction with media hype and misinformation

" AiDs " made its debut . As they say , " follow the money " .

Furthermore , one could also question , why is it not everyone that has sex with

someone , whom has the supposed AIDS Symptoms contracts AIDS / HIV ? Why is it

that someone in a family doesn't catch the cold/flu , while the rest of the

family does ? Try explaining this , if you are skeptical of the " Germ Theory "

..

Its all well to have questions , but one has to have answers or find their own

answers , sometimes too . No disrespect intended nor am I trying to argue

neither .

For your convenience alongside some validation , I invite you and everyone to

watch the video , below , I uploaded to my site . Its by Pe­ter Deus­berg a 30

year vi­rol­o­gist , whom ex­plains why AiDs can­not be a re­al STD , but rather

a man made hoax . Check it out !

AiDs A Hoax - 10 Reasons Why : http://tinyurl.com/yarrk8d

" Will " , the bottom line , is the diet program works if you give it a chance

and really is UNNECESSARY if you comprehend theories , chemical reactions , or

its pathways . Its irrelevant in regards to its success and effectiveness .

A practitioner , for example , is not going to explain theories , biomechanics

or whatnot to you or I . They either say , we except their help or we don't !

Done deal . Its up to us to investigate , if NECESSARY .

I can tell you from experience from researching , that if you want to prove a

theory has merit , you have to read through numerous articles and/or listen to

numerous lectures to see if you get similar consistencies , answers or ideas

surfacing . Then without doubt , I suppose the person will have true closure

and prove it true or false .

But time and Energy is precious , so one better be certain its worth their while

and makes a difference in the outcome .

Until then.

Be Well,

Ed

P.S - Apologies for the verbosity

If this double posts , blame

[Guest guest]

>

> Ok Chantal... please let me know if you get another cold sore whilst on this

diet. I'm interested to know what works, thanks.

>

>

/// Hi Bill, if i was to have a cold sore, last week would have been perfect

condition for it... i used to get one when i start my periods. or if i have a

fever. i had both a bad period and a flu with fever last week and didn't get a

cold sore.

i'm not sure when retracing is supposed to start. i'm having a back pain right

now and i'm wondering if it's a regular back pain or a retracing one. i guess

time will tell with all the things i might have to retrace. i've had cold sores

since i was 4 years old when i took a dive on the sidewalk and hurt my lip... it

got infected and had recurring cold sore ever since.

Chantal

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> " AIDS " is a false manufactured concept by a fame seeking scientist.

> He skipped some procedures in the scientific community in order to

> get his theory published . Near afterward , the pharmaceutical

> industry developed drugs like " AZT " as a cure . When in fact , it

> cause the body to react powerfully to this extremely toxic drug and

> in conjunction with media hype and misinformation " AiDs " made its

> debut . As they say , " follow the money " .

>

So what was it that lead AIDS sufferers to take this toxic drug? Were

there initial symptoms just in their heads?? The weight loss,

wasting, decreased immunity to name but a few - were they just

imagined?? I have watched a person go from being perfectly healthy

and over a 5 year period become incredibly ill (and eventually die)

from AIDs. To say this is a fabricated illness is beyond ludicrous.

I don't doubt that Big Pharma had a field day and continue to make a

motza from AIDS, but there are millions of documented cases of people

succumbing and showing symptoms of this virus before they took drugs.

How do you explain that?

>

> Furthermore , one could also question , why is it not everyone that

> has sex with someone , whom has the supposed AIDS Symptoms contracts

> AIDS / HIV ? Why is it that someone in a family doesn't catch the

> cold/flu , while the rest of the family does ? Try explaining this ,

> if you are skeptical of the " Germ Theory " .

>

To catch the AIDS virus you need to break skin. If there is no broken

skin during the sex act, the virus cannot get into the other person's

blood stream. It is actually quite difficult to catch, which is why

" not everybody " catches it. Colds/other viruses: I know if my immune

system is suppressed due to poor diet, stress, sleep deprivation etc,

I will catch a cold just like that. If I am well and my immune system

is firing on all cylinders, I do not catch a cold, regardless of who

has it around me. My daughter had a cold last weekend. My son came

down with it on Tuesday. I would normally be next but I believe

because I am taking so much vitamin C and other immune building

supplements at the moment, I will not catch the cold. If I was run

down I would catch it. I have seen this time and time again.

Everybody's immune system is different and so everyone's

susceptibility to viruses is different.

Keri in Australia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Keri,

I hear your concern and frustration, but I had to respond.

You see, I have been a nurse for 20 years and was a part of the drug pushing

crew that threatened patients with labeling if they didn't take their drugs,

even though the patients would plead to us that the meds were killing them. I

had this mentality ,until a prescribed drug almost killed me with kidney and

heart failure at 42. See,

I had no reason to question my doctors knowledge. There are currently 20 million

Americans taking this drug.

Now I look at everything differently where I work. Every patient I care for I

look at their meds closely and their symptoms. I would be willing to bet that

98% of the patients that come to that ICU has some form of Candida.

Now, to your concern about HIV, we have always, always had the wasting syndrome

that HIV patients present with. Back then it wasn't called HIV, it was called

wasting syndrome, blood cancer, etc..

I see patients all the time that present with the same symptoms as AIDS patients

and they are " HIV " negative. I don't know if anything was made up about HIV, but

I do know there is a missing piece to this puzzle. The thing about a fact is

that it must be true all the time. If AIDS is sexually transmitted and blood

borne only, then ALL spouses of AIds people should get it-- no exceptions. I do

know that almost all of the 'AIDS' cases or the " HIV " positive patients that I

have seen has poor nutrition and signs of candida. Coincidence?

I don't have all the answers but I will never again except ANYTHING that

mainstream medicine says as the gospel. In fact I am very disheartened that I am

getting ready to go into another branch of healthcare. You see, in all good

conscious I cant continue to give these people these harmful substances when I

know they are killing these people.

For example, all diabetics get evening snacks,, for snacks we give them high

sugar fruits and white bread processed turkey sandwiches, then 2 hours later we

give them insulin?????

Patients come in with infections.. we give them prednsone, a steroid ,that

destroys their already destroyed immune system.

Sorry so long.. just so frustrated.

Phyllis R.

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > " AIDS " is a false manufactured concept by a fame seeking scientist.

> > He skipped some procedures in the scientific community in order to

> > get his theory published . Near afterward , the pharmaceutical

> > industry developed drugs like " AZT " as a cure . When in fact , it

> > cause the body to react powerfully to this extremely toxic drug and

[Guest guest]

On the subject of HIV I think I have read just about every symptom of AIDS

mentioned on this web site by various members:

* Fever

* Headache

* Sore throat

* Swollen lymph glands

* Rash

* Diarrhea that lasts for more than a week

* Dry cough

* Memory loss, depression and neurological disorders

* Pneumonia

* Profound, unexplained fatigue

* Rapid weight loss

* Recurring fever or profuse night sweats

* Red, brown, pink or purplish blotches on or under the skin or inside the

mouth, nose or eyelids

* Swollen lymph glands in the armpits, groin or neck

* White spots or unusual blemishes on the tongue, in the mouth, or in the

throat

* Coughing and shortness of breath

* Difficult or painful swallowing

* Extreme fatigue

* Fever

* Mental symptoms such as confusion and forgetfulness

* Nausea, abdominal cramps and vomiting

* Seizures and lack of coordination

* Severe, persistent diarrhea

* Severe headaches

* Vision loss

* Weight loss

So are we all AIDS victims?

Phyllis R,

> A practitioner , for example , is not going to explain theories , biomechanics

or whatnot to you or I . They either say , we except their help or we don't !

Done deal . Its up to us to investigate , if NECESSARY .

>

> I can tell you from experience from researching , that if you want to prove a

theory has merit , you have to read through numerous articles and/or listen to

numerous lectures to see if you get similar consistencies , answers or ideas

surfacing . Then without doubt , I suppose the person will have true closure

and prove it true or false .

>

> But time and Energy is precious , so one better be certain its worth their

while and makes a difference in the outcome .

>

> Until then.

>

> Be Well,

> Ed

[Guest guest]

I completely agree with your standpoint on the medical profession; I

work in healthcare too and am horrified on a daily basis by what I see

and hear about. I even suspect that there are many diseases out there

that have cures, but those cures are " suppressed " by the people that

own the cancer/disease industry and will never see the light of day.

So I'm with you on all of that. I just think it's far fetched to

suggest that AIDS is a manufactured illness, is all. As I said, I had

a friend who went from being perfectly healthy to ravaged by illness

within two years after one, specific and unfortunate sexual encounter

- it wasn't candida, cancer or anything else. He had all the tests

for cancer and everything else BEFORE the HIV diagnosis, I can't see

how the HIV could have been " manufactured " .

Keri

On 19/02/2010, at 7:53 AM, yvonne wrote:

> Keri,

> I hear your concern and frustration, but I had to respond.

> You see, I have been a nurse for 20 years and was a part of the drug

> pushing crew that threatened patients with labeling if they didn't

> take their drugs, even though the patients would plead to us that

> the meds were killing them. I had this mentality ,until a prescribed

> drug almost killed me with kidney and heart failure at 42. See,

> I had no reason to question my doctors knowledge. There are

> currently 20 million Americans taking this drug.

>

>

>

>

> _.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Keri, maybe I wouldnt use the word 'manufactured " , maybe misguided. I bet if

your friend had a healthy diet and the supplements he needed and didn't take

those AIDS drugs he would still be alive.

Phyllis R.

>

> I completely agree with your standpoint on the medical profession; I

> work in healthcare too and am horrified on a daily basis by what I see

> and hear about. I even suspect that there are many diseases out there

> that have cures, but those cures are " suppressed " by the people that

> own the cancer/disease industry and will never see the light of d

[Guest guest]

@@@ Hello everyone,

 

I was just reading this the other day. It talks about how the cure for cancer

was shutdown many years ago, in the 1930's.

 

www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cancer8.php

 

I hope the link works!

I found it very interesting.

Robin

 

 

Keri, maybe I wouldnt use the word 'manufactured " , maybe misguided. I bet if

your friend had a healthy diet and the supplements he needed and didn't take

those AIDS drugs he would still be alive.

Phyllis R.

>

> I completely agree with your standpoint on the medical profession; I

> work in healthcare too and am horrified on a daily basis by what I see

> and hear about. I even suspect that there are many diseases out there

> that have cures, but those cures are " suppressed " by the people that

> own the cancer/disease industry and will never see the light of d

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I completely agree with your standpoint on the medical profession; I

> > work in healthcare too and am horrified on a daily basis by what I see

> > and hear about. I even suspect that there are many diseases out there

> > that have cures, but those cures are " suppressed " by the people that

> > own the cancer/disease industry and will never see the light of d

>

@@ Hi Phyllis & keri,

It seems you guys didn't watch the full video I submitted . What they call HIV/

Aids has been discovered a couple a centuries ago as a harmless entity that has

been residing in the human body for long time . Yes the idea of HIV/AIDS was a

manufactured or misguided attempt to gain recognition by a fame seeking

scientist named " Gallo " .

All information that you and I have been fed on this subject originated from a

part of the scientific community with their own agenda . The medical

profession is also trained by the pharmaceutical industry , indirectly . They

sponsor the medical system. Med students whom later become Doctors , Nurses and

whatnot of the medical community , are programmed with limited knowledge , to

the advantage of Big Pharma , from " DAY 1 " .

Trauma medicine is fantastic and the diagnostic training of the medical

profession is praise worthy , beyond that , its an abysmal failure in regards to

all chronic illness / heroic medicine .

If you are truly interested , in improving your knowledge base in the medical

system and its history , research " Whale to " for starters .

Link : http://tinyurl.com/mn9us5

The medical system is governed and owned by wealthy powerful people whom also

influence education , the media and all sectors of society.

This concept is so monstrous , most dare not , nor cannot fathom it .

All the SYMPTOMS you listed in a previous post , Phyllis , are SYMPTOMS of a

weak immune system due to deficiencies and a improper lifestyle and/or

unnecessary medication . Correct this and you correct those symptoms .

Keri , people take these drugs out of perpetuated FEAR & MISINFORMATION by the

well meaning , medical profession .

Heck , " Iatrogenic Medicine " , death by doctor , kills more people than any

disease known to man , to this Day !

Again , please watch the video , I submitted ... it answers many of questions

recently posted in this regard to HIV/AIDS . This video includes explanation

from accredited virologist and his associates , more accredited than you or I .

And are from the community of scientist where this AIDS concept was developed .

Keri , to catch supposed " AIDS " , you need a weak immune system , Fear and "

AZT " . Again watch the video and do your research .

How about , Everyone interested , watch the video and disprove these scientist

& virologist evidence & theories proposed with some source of your own .

However , unnecessary , but if you feel defensive or have inclination for

whatever reason ... you are welcome have fun with it

If I were you , I wouldn't stress myself over it ... you have nothing to prove

to me or anyone else . You are here like myself ... because the system has

failed you ; regardless of your academia

or background .

As , I stated earlier , it does not matter if you COMPREHEND or AGREE with the

theories , chemical reactions , or pathways , proposed . You all came here to

get well with this diet program and that should be one's main focus . So don't

sweat the stuff that does not directly effect you . I myself , try not to

I thank you and get well .

Sincerely,

Ed