Guest guest Posted September 12, 2001 Report Share Posted September 12, 2001 Yeah... natural whole nuts and seeds have many benefits, not just pecans (of course!). As to a " heart-healthy " diet that we dread for its blandness... I've read a lot of literature on the low carbohydrate diet frontier, perusing the low-carb sites and reading thousands of testimonies from REAL people about their results from a low carbohydrate diet, much like the testomonies on the BTD message forum, and I can say that the " heart-healthy cholesterol lowering " diet propaganda pushed by the medical establishment is pure freakin' bullshit. I for one know first-hand how eating a low-carbohydrate has enhanced my own heart. A heart- healthy cholesterol-lowering diet may work for some, but the principles it is founded on is basically false. Read " Protein Power " before you think about going on a bland diet for your " health " . This post is especially out-of-place on a mailing list for type O's. The truth is out there. I personally do my heart a favor by eating a six ounce steak slathered with homemade mayo and/or lots of real butter, instead of the trans-fatty acid poisen margerine which is actually the worst kind of fat for the heart and every other organ in the human body. Ever dissect a heart? I have, plenty of times, heart muscle is a part of my diet, from many different animals. There are functional deposits of fat on the outside of the heart... why? To be used as a reliable and constant source of FUEL for the heart. The heart actually prefers ketone bodies (the broken down metabolites of fatty acids) for fuel over glucose, same for kidneys and some brain cells. And saturated fat is not the enemy, there are many kinds of saturated fats just as there are many kinds of PUFAs and MUFAs, and saturated fats are a valid source of energy. Cholesterol? Our bodies PRODUCE its own cholesterol, about 75% to 80% of the cholesterol our bodies use for basic construction of hormones and structural component of cells come from our own bodies. That's why you can eat many times the RDA of cholesterol and not effect your blood-cholesterol levels (well, marginally). Unless of course you're a typical American who is eating WAY too many carbohydrates, the ensueing metabolic havoc that screws up a person's ability to utilize the basic blood fats (which are there for a REASON) causing all sorts of complications. I will eat pecans. But I say NO! I will not believe this propaganda anymore. I urge every O to find out for yourself. Do the research on your own if you don't believe me. > You know you should be following a more heart-healthy diet, but you > dread the boredom of a low-fat, tasteless diet that leaves you hungry > all the time. > > For you and millions of others like you, there's good news! Pecan > nuts can help the health conscious stick to their cholesterol- > lowering diets - and will even double its effectiveness. > > In the first controlled metabolic clinical study on the health > benefits of pecans, researchers from Loma University in > California have discovered a heart-healthy diet, which incorporates > the nut, can significantly lower blood cholesterol levels. > > In fact, the daily addition of pecans more than doubled the > effectiveness (cholesterol-lowering ability) of a traditional low-fat > diet. > > The research was published in the September issue of the Journal of > Nutrition. > > Study participants were fed both a basic low-fat heart healthy diet > (the type a doctor might suggest when you first learn your > cholesterol levels are too high) and a similar diet that replaced 20 > percent of the calories with pecans (e.g., by adding pecans to > salads, cereal and entrees). > > Although both diets lowered total and bad cholesterol levels, the > pecan diet (which contained 11 percent more fat than the traditional > heart-healthy diet), lowered cholesterol levels twice as much. > > In fact, the response to the pecan diet was as great as that which > some people experience with cholesterol-lowering drugs, say the > researchers. Moreover, even on the higher fat pecan diet, study > participants did not gain weight. > > This pecan study not only demonstrates why a heart-healthy diet does > not have to be bland and tasteless in order to be good for you, it > adds scientific support to a growing body of evidence supporting the > increased use of pecans and other tree nuts in a heart-healthy diet. > > Hmmm ... now I can't remember if pecans are avoids or not ... will > have to look into this! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2001 Report Share Posted September 12, 2001 I second that!! Re: Pecans Yeah... natural whole nuts and seeds have many benefits, not just pecans (of course!). As to a " heart-healthy " diet that we dread for its blandness... I've read a lot of literature on the low carbohydrate diet frontier, perusing the low-carb sites and reading thousands of testimonies from REAL people about their results from a low carbohydrate diet, much like the testomonies on the BTD message forum, and I can say that the " heart-healthy cholesterol lowering " diet propaganda pushed by the medical establishment is pure freakin' bullshit. I for one know first-hand how eating a low-carbohydrate has enhanced my own heart. A heart- healthy cholesterol-lowering diet may work for some, but the principles it is founded on is basically false. Read " Protein Power " before you think about going on a bland diet for your " health " . This post is especially out-of-place on a mailing list for type O's. The truth is out there. I personally do my heart a favor by eating a six ounce steak slathered with homemade mayo and/or lots of real butter, instead of the trans-fatty acid poisen margerine which is actually the worst kind of fat for the heart and every other organ in the human body. Ever dissect a heart? I have, plenty of times, heart muscle is a part of my diet, from many different animals. There are functional deposits of fat on the outside of the heart... why? To be used as a reliable and constant source of FUEL for the heart. The heart actually prefers ketone bodies (the broken down metabolites of fatty acids) for fuel over glucose, same for kidneys and some brain cells. And saturated fat is not the enemy, there are many kinds of saturated fats just as there are many kinds of PUFAs and MUFAs, and saturated fats are a valid source of energy. Cholesterol? Our bodies PRODUCE its own cholesterol, about 75% to 80% of the cholesterol our bodies use for basic construction of hormones and structural component of cells come from our own bodies. That's why you can eat many times the RDA of cholesterol and not effect your blood-cholesterol levels (well, marginally). Unless of course you're a typical American who is eating WAY too many carbohydrates, the ensueing metabolic havoc that screws up a person's ability to utilize the basic blood fats (which are there for a REASON) causing all sorts of complications. I will eat pecans. But I say NO! I will not believe this propaganda anymore. I urge every O to find out for yourself. Do the research on your own if you don't believe me. > You know you should be following a more heart-healthy diet, but you > dread the boredom of a low-fat, tasteless diet that leaves you hungry > all the time. > > For you and millions of others like you, there's good news! Pecan > nuts can help the health conscious stick to their cholesterol- > lowering diets - and will even double its effectiveness. > > In the first controlled metabolic clinical study on the health > benefits of pecans, researchers from Loma University in > California have discovered a heart-healthy diet, which incorporates > the nut, can significantly lower blood cholesterol levels. > > In fact, the daily addition of pecans more than doubled the > effectiveness (cholesterol-lowering ability) of a traditional low-fat > diet. > > The research was published in the September issue of the Journal of > Nutrition. > > Study participants were fed both a basic low-fat heart healthy diet > (the type a doctor might suggest when you first learn your > cholesterol levels are too high) and a similar diet that replaced 20 > percent of the calories with pecans (e.g., by adding pecans to > salads, cereal and entrees). > > Although both diets lowered total and bad cholesterol levels, the > pecan diet (which contained 11 percent more fat than the traditional > heart-healthy diet), lowered cholesterol levels twice as much. > > In fact, the response to the pecan diet was as great as that which > some people experience with cholesterol-lowering drugs, say the > researchers. Moreover, even on the higher fat pecan diet, study > participants did not gain weight. > > This pecan study not only demonstrates why a heart-healthy diet does > not have to be bland and tasteless in order to be good for you, it > adds scientific support to a growing body of evidence supporting the > increased use of pecans and other tree nuts in a heart-healthy diet. > > Hmmm ... now I can't remember if pecans are avoids or not ... will > have to look into this! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 I think you are forgetting the whole point of the blood type diet concept -- that different people respond differently. The low-fat, whole food, vegetarian diet as promoted by Dean Ornish has been categorically proven to reverse heart disease for a large percentage of those studied. That does not deny that some are not helped by it, but it has been scientifically demonstrated. D'Adamo's research and theories would suggest that most of those helped would probably be type A. Not trying to criticize what works for you, but simply to reinterate that the Ornish diet does work, at least for many who have heart disease. Personally, I am type A-, having joined this list to gain insights into what works for O, since my wife is O. The other insight which research has brought has been the emphasis on better fats than others and the danger of transfatty acids found in most magarines and processed food. I have always felt butter was more healthy than margarine, though I still question how healthy large amounts would be. Again, type O's may find greater benefit and my wife does seem to crave more fat than I do. Finally, the problem of high glycemic foods such as sugar, white potatoes, etc. is more the issue that the notion that carbs are evil in general. It does sound like type O's do much better with higher protein. Would an Atkins level of protein be helpful or harmful. I know they are studying that question at Duke University. But again, type O's may need more protein than A's and suffer with too many carbs. I only ask that you not sell short what type A's need. I would also be interested in other things that seems to work well for O's (yes I have the first book but want to know which ones really make a difference). So far my O list is as follows: - Eat some red meat but avoid wheat (I believe these two go together) - Eat some more fat but deemphasize carbs (that includes sugar unfortunately for my sweet tooth wife) - Be careful with which type of beans we choose and have her deemphasize beans since O's have problems. Anything else that seems to be a clear win? Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2001 Report Share Posted September 13, 2001 Who are you speaking to in this message? I want to think you are addressing my recent response to the same post, but as you have not addressed me by name I am unsure as to whom you are speaking to. Ray wrote: > I think you are forgetting the whole point of the blood type diet > concept -- that different people respond differently. The low-fat, > whole food, vegetarian diet as promoted by Dean Ornish has been > categorically proven to reverse heart disease for a large percentage > of those studied. That does not deny that some are not helped by it, > but it has been scientifically demonstrated. D'Adamo's research and > theories would suggest that most of those helped would probably be > type A. Not trying to criticize what works for you, but simply to > reinterate that the Ornish diet does work, at least for many who have > heart disease. Personally, I am type A-, having joined this list to > gain insights into what works for O, since my wife is O. > > The other insight which research has brought has been the emphasis on > better fats than others and the danger of transfatty acids found in > most magarines and processed food. I have always felt butter was > more healthy than margarine, though I still question how healthy > large amounts would be. Again, type O's may find greater benefit and > my wife does seem to crave more fat than I do. > > Finally, the problem of high glycemic foods such as sugar, white > potatoes, etc. is more the issue that the notion that carbs are evil > in general. It does sound like type O's do much better with higher > protein. Would an Atkins level of protein be helpful or harmful. I > know they are studying that question at Duke University. But again, > type O's may need more protein than A's and suffer with too many > carbs. > > I only ask that you not sell short what type A's need. I would also > be interested in other things that seems to work well for O's (yes I > have the first book but want to know which ones really make a > difference). So far my O list is as follows: > - Eat some red meat but avoid wheat (I believe these two go together) > - Eat some more fat but deemphasize carbs (that includes sugar > unfortunately for my sweet tooth wife) > - Be careful with which type of beans we choose and have her > deemphasize beans since O's have problems. > > Anything else that seems to be a clear win? > > Ray > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 i soaked some pecans as per bee's instructions but i forgot to refrigerate them and left them out for about two weeks. The pecans now have mold on them not a lot and not the black mold but a greyish fuzz should i throw them out? Thanks Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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