questions from a newbie

July 18, 2005

I am not an expert, but your symptoms sound a lot like mine did. As for being too young, I was diagnosed with stenosis and 2 ruptured disks at 22 years old and am currently 23 and have had 2 back surgeries in the past 6 months. I wish you luck, hope it works out and you get the information you need.

Thanks,

Jeri Leigh R

In a message dated 7/18/2005 1:19:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, crypto_knight70@... writes:

Hi all - I am currently suffering some back/leg pain, and have not yet received a definite diagnosis, in spite of seeing 3 doctors. In the doctor's defense, my insurance company will not allow me to have an MRI until I complete 6 weeks or PT and 3 weeks of NSAIDs.... The doctor's and physical therapists are guessing that it is a ruptured disc, but without the MRI nobody will say for sure. It seems that low back pain is quite mysterious to the medical community. I have been on hundreds of websites, and have seen so much contradictary information, I don't know what to think. While I think I may be too young to have stenosis (I am 34), my symptoms seem most closely aligned with the consensus I have read about it. The biggest thing is that I am in pain when I stand for more than 30 seconds, and can only walk about 20 feet without being in excruciating pain. Lying flat on my back is not comfortable either. Sitting or bending forward, however relieves the pain, where I am almost pain free sometimes when sitting. I have read that sitting is supposed to be the position that causes the most pain for someone with a ruptured disc, so I am questioning what they are thinking. Do these sound familiar to anyone - does this sound more like stenosis than a disc rupture? Can PT alone fix my problems if it is stenosis? (I am currently doing aquatic therapy as they could not do traditional therapy - I can't lie on my stomach either). I have also noticed a "click" or "pop" sometimes when I move my leg on the affected side a certain way. The therapist said this is my SI joint. Anybody know if this is related to stenosis at all - I never had it before.Thanks for any info you can provide

September 6, 2005

Hi I too am just now 37 and have been suffering with this since i was

30. Your age has nothing to do with it. Its what you have been

through or if you were " destined " geneticcally to have this. I also

have not had any luck in getting a MD to diagnosis this for me.

Although my local Chiropractor has agreed without the MRI that all my

symptoms are SS. I first had the symptom of numb leg and Pain! Pain

you would not believe. But I am hoping to get insurance to be able

to visit this new clinic that has opened here. They too agree that

all the symptoms point to SS and that I need an MRI or at least an

xray as it seems I am in the progressed stage of this to be able to

tell me just how long before a wheelchair will be in place. Everyone

who agrees with this diagnosis for me has stated that first because

its been 7 yrs untreated and undiagnosised so that i could be treated

there is irreversable damage. Second with all the things I am

experiencing I am at a stage that surgery is not an option but

Physical therapy is. This can be done by a good chiropractor. One

that does more then adjust your back. My advise is to try really

hard to get a diagnosis. Plus find a good chiropractor that will do

stretching and massagings and other things to relieve your symptoms

it helps. If you are unlucky and at a stage that I am at there is

no " cure " just maintanence to keep limber moving and out of pain as

long as possible. Surgery is an option for early stages although I

have found few who were happy after and alot who were worse off then

before. I believe it has to do with where you are at with this.

another thing I did was I went to webmd.com and put in my symptoms it

listed what it could be and of course SS was the only one with all my

symptoms even the ones I did not know was a symptom..good luck!

> Hi all -

>

> I am currently suffering some back/leg pain, and have not yet

> received a definite diagnosis, in spite of seeing 3 doctors. In

the

> doctor's defense, my insurance company will not allow me to have an

> MRI until I complete 6 weeks or PT and 3 weeks of NSAIDs.... The

> doctor's and physical therapists are guessing that it is a ruptured

> disc, but without the MRI nobody will say for sure. It seems that

> low back pain is quite mysterious to the medical community. I have

> been on hundreds of websites, and have seen so much contradictary

> information, I don't know what to think. While I think I may be

too

> young to have stenosis (I am 34), my symptoms seem most closely

> aligned with the consensus I have read about it. The biggest thing

> is that I am in pain when I stand for more than 30 seconds, and can

> only walk about 20 feet without being in excruciating pain. Lying

> flat on my back is not comfortable either. Sitting or bending

> forward, however relieves the pain, where I am almost pain free

> sometimes when sitting. I have read that sitting is supposed to be

> the position that causes the most pain for someone with a ruptured

> disc, so I am questioning what they are thinking. Do these sound

> familiar to anyone - does this sound more like stenosis than a disc

> rupture? Can PT alone fix my problems if it is stenosis? (I am

> currently doing aquatic therapy as they could not do traditional

> therapy - I can't lie on my stomach either). I have also noticed

> a " click " or " pop " sometimes when I move my leg on the affected

side

> a certain way. The therapist said this is my SI joint. Anybody

> know if this is related to stenosis at all - I never had it before.

>

> Thanks for any info you can provide

>

February 23, 2009

My comments are below:

Steph

Questions from a Newbie

I just recently started a iodine protocol. i used atomidine for a while till i got my dose up to 12 mgs and now have switched to 1 tablet of 12.5 mg iodoral.What is the typical dose where one sees the benefits?

For me the cancer markers came down at 50 mgs but I really felt better when on 100 mgs.How long does one need to take iodoral till they see the benefits?

Some see it right away and others it is 1 mos, 2 mos or more. There are no set times.What are the typical benefits observed in the beginning?

Increased energy, lifting brain fog, loss of fibroids, eliminating cancer, better eye sight, better thyroid numbers, loss of goiter, loss of nodules, loss of fibrous breasts and pain. There is a big long list of what is can help.Does iodine work for both hypo- and hyper- thyroid?

Yes it works for both. For hyper you wnat to add L-Carnatine and Lithium. For Hypothyroid selenium and L-tyrosine.Has anyone seen improved GI conditions after using iodine?

It does go to the intestinal mucosa. Many have better regularity with iodine.

steph

Thanks

February 24, 2009

Thanks Steph.

Do people take the entire dose once a day or do they split it up for multiple times a day.

I seem to hve some insomnia since moving to the iodoral 12.5 dose. Is this normal and how long shuld it last?

Do people have any GI symptoms from iodine therapy? Since i do have colitis i am trying to figure out if symptoms re from one or the other.

Thanks

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>iodine Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:26:00 PMSubject: Re: Questions from a Newbie

My comments are below:

Steph

Questions from a Newbie

I just recently started a iodine protocol. i used atomidine for a while till i got my dose up to 12 mgs and now have switched to 1 tablet of 12.5 mg iodoral.What is the typical dose where one sees the benefits?

For me the cancer markers came down at 50 mgs but I really felt better when on 100 mgs.How long does one need to take iodoral till they see the benefits?

Some see it right away and others it is 1 mos, 2 mos or more. There are no set times.What are the typical benefits observed in the beginning?

Increased energy, lifting brain fog, loss of fibroids, eliminating cancer, better eye sight, better thyroid numbers, loss of goiter, loss of nodules, loss of fibrous breasts and pain. There is a big long list of what is can help.Does iodine work for both hypo- and hyper- thyroid?

Yes it works for both. For hyper you wnat to add L-Carnatine and Lithium. For Hypothyroid selenium and L-tyrosine.Has anyone seen improved GI conditions after using iodine?

It does go to the intestinal mucosa. Many have better regularity with iodine.

steph

Thanks

May 3, 2009

My names victor just been diagnosed with reactive arthritis. i was wondering if

you could give me some insight into this nightmare.

>

> I'm 32 and have recently been diagnosed with reactive arthritis (I think--my

rhummy

> didn't seem 100 percent sure). It first showed up about 6 months ago after I

was

> traveling in the Netherlands and Germany. I had diarrea 1 day during the trip

and my

> knee started hurting on the last day. By the time we got back to NY, it was

huge and I

> had a fever. it took about two weeks (and several painful knee taps and a

weekend in

> the hospitial) to get me to the right kind of dr. After a cortizone shot and

some anti-

> inflammatories, I was fine. The dr. didn't really tell me clearly what had

happened to

> me and I was left thinking it was a fluke and I got through it and I was fine.

>

> A few days ago, the knee swelling came back (along with neck and back

pain--but I

> have ongoing back pain from herniated disks so I didn't think much of this),

so I went

> immediately to the dr. and he put me back on Indomethacin. This is when he

told me

> it was reative arthritis, but he didn't seem too concerned. It's only that

I've been doing

> research and reading posts on this list that I've learned how chronic it can

become.

> That said, I have a few questions:

>

> 1. What is the range of severity of this disease? Do some people only have a

few flare

> ups intermittently or is the pain more typically a constant thing?

>

> 2. During a flare up with knee pain, or any joint, is it best to just rest and

keep off of

> it, or does keeping it still make it worse and stiffen. I went to work

yesterday, with a

> cane, but it was much worse by the end of the day. I want to get through this

as

> quickly as possible, so I'm trying to figure out if staying off of it is the

best way.

>

> 3. Has anyone had any success with herbal anti-inflammatory treatments, such

as

> tumeric, ginger or Boswellin? I've read about these on drweil.com but haven't

tried

> them yet.

>

January 19, 2010

Hi- I've been reading about candida for the last 2 weeks and have taken a couple

quizzes to try to see if I might have candida. I have a strong feeling that I do

have it based on my symptoms that I have had since I was a child. I'm 37 years

old and I have had various symptoms since I was 4. Depression, anxiety, sugar

addiction, bloating, allergies, lack of concentration/focus, ADD, nightmares,

sleeping 12 hrs/day, acne, and joint pain. I've been underemployed/unemployed

for many years now and I can not afford to do this entire program. Can candida

be healed through diet alone? I can afford to buy food, but not the supplements.

Thanks a lot for the website, Bee. It has been extremely informative.

January 20, 2010

>

> Hi ,

>

> I believe it is still very possible to make great progress without the

supplements. Although, I would try really hard to get the Cod Liver Oil & /or

fish oil.

+++Hi Natalia. No one is advised to only take fish oil.

Some progress can be made with the diet, but over the years I've found that

people who are successful and progress like they should take all of the

supplements. Some people discovered quite late that they didn't make

improvements they should because they left out one of the supplements.

Bee

January 20, 2010

>

> Hi- I've been reading about candida for the last 2 weeks and have taken a

couple quizzes to try to see if I might have candida. I have a strong feeling

that I do have it based on my symptoms that I have had since I was a child. I'm

37 years old and I have had various symptoms since I was 4. Depression, anxiety,

sugar addiction, bloating, allergies, lack of concentration/focus, ADD,

nightmares, sleeping 12 hrs/day, acne, and joint pain. I've been

underemployed/unemployed for many years now and I can not afford to do this

entire program. Can candida be healed through diet alone? I can afford to buy

food, but not the supplements. Thanks a lot for the website, Bee. It has been

extremely informative.

+++Hi . Welcome to our group. You will find that you'll spend less money

on a lot of things when you are on this program, so you may have the money

necessary to get the supplements.

For example: You will not be spending money on things like toothpaste either,

since you can make your own using sea salt and/or baking soda, which is better

for you.

There are many other areas you'll save money too.

You do not have to buy organic meats and vegetables, but ensure they are not

being irradiated (zapped with radiation) or treated by injecting salt (done with

meats in some countries), which depends upon regulations in your country.

From my experience it is very important you take all of the supplements. People

who haven't do not progress as they should. That is because candida sufferers

suffer with malnutrition, and candida interferes with absorption of nutrients,

and even depletes some of them, i.e. vitamin B complex.

Like Natalia wrote you can make your own mineral-rich bone broths instead of

taking calcium and magnesium - here's the recipe:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/recipe21.php

Bone broths are so easy, since after soaking they cook themselves.

You can also take Nutritional Yeast " Flakes " instead of vitamin B complex and

niacin - ensure you get the Flakes and not just nutritional yeast.

The most important supplements are Unrefined coconut oil, Cod Liver Oil and

ocean sea salt.

Please ensure you read two important articles:

1) How to Successfully Overcome Candida

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

2) Curing Candida, How to Get Started

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by members

of this group: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee

January 20, 2010

Hi Bee,

Sorry, yes I understand.. I guess I was just getting at the diet minus some

supplements being better than doing nothing at all. The reason I say CLO is

because a lot of people only supplement this on GAPS and still make great

progress. Sorry! >.<

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I believe it is still very possible to make great progress without the

supplements. Although, I would try really hard to get the Cod Liver Oil & /or

fish oil.

>

> +++Hi Natalia. No one is advised to only take fish oil.

>

> Some progress can be made with the diet, but over the years I've found that

people who are successful and progress like they should take all of the

supplements. Some people discovered quite late that they didn't make

improvements they should because they left out one of the supplements.

>

> Bee

>

January 20, 2010

Thank you so much for the info. I'll find a way to do all the supplements. It's

time to sell a bunch of my stuff! I'm excited to get started. I've been doing

the paleo diet strictly for 4 months, now all I have to do is cut out the fruit

and starchy vegetables.

> >

> > Hi- I've been reading about candida for the last 2 weeks and have taken a