Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Hey Bee! I hope your holidays have been wonderful, and that you and yours are ready for an exciting new year. I have just moved, and during the transition, I guess I missed some news on your plan? I read you are no longer recommending antifungals except EVCO, is this because of toxic overload in the liver? Also, I have researched the Optimal Diet, and they don't seem to make a distinction between carbs, so long as they fall within the ratio deigned appropriate. What I mean is, some of the recipes on that website call for flour. From what I've read, this seems to be against what you are putting forward. Any word on this? jonathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 > > Hey Bee! > > I hope your holidays have been wonderful, and that you and yours are ready for an exciting new year. > > I have just moved, and during the transition, I guess I missed some news on your plan? I read you are no longer recommending antifungals except EVCO, is this because of toxic overload in the liver? +++Hi athan. No, I'm no longer recommending antifungals because candida is not cured by killing it off. It just doesn't work that way. The only was it is cured is by building up the immune system, which is done by: 1) Consuming " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements), 2) Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and cancer), 3) Eliminating damaging foods, and 4) Eliminating toxins in general. When the immune system becomes strong enough it " makes " candida " change back " into the organism it was before. The only reason EVCO is included is because of its many other health benefits, but not because it is antifungal. Also, I have researched the Optimal Diet, and they don't seem to make a distinction between carbs, so long as they fall within the ratio deigned appropriate. What I mean is, some of the recipes on that website call for flour. From what I've read, this seems to be against what you are putting forward. Any word on this? +++The Optimal Diet does not treat people who have candida, and all carbs feed candida. Carbs are any foods not classified as protein or fat. The best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 > ## Snip > +++The Optimal Diet does not treat people who have candida, and all carbs feed candida. Carbs are any foods not classified as protein or fat. ## Hi Bee , You state periodically if one doesn't treat their Candida , the next stage is Cancer . Candida and Cancer both are stimulated by Sugar right ? Of course , we know they are . Thus all Carbs would feed / drive both Candida and Cancer . Yet the Optimal Diet has been used to treat Diabetes , CANCER and many other diseases ..... but not CANDIDA . Strange ? Now why is that ? I'm trying to figure why the Optimal Diet can succeed at addressing Cancer , which is Sugar addictive , but cannot address its precursor , Candida , which is also Sugar addictive . Thanks in advance , Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 > > ## Hi Bee , > > You state periodically if one doesn't treat their Candida , the next stage is Cancer . > > Candida and Cancer both are stimulated by Sugar right ? Of course , we know they are . Thus all Carbs would feed / drive both Candida and Cancer . > > Yet the Optimal Diet has been used to treat Diabetes , CANCER and many other diseases ..... but not CANDIDA . Strange ? Now why is that ? > > I'm trying to figure why the Optimal Diet can succeed at addressing Cancer , which is Sugar addictive , but cannot address its precursor , Candida , which is also Sugar addictive . +++Hi Ed. I believe Dr. K does have different diets for different health problems, but I do not have the details. So I don't think he has " one diet that fits all, " since you'll notice he recommends much lower carbs for people with obesity and diabetes. His book is written in Polish and translated to English. He also has a Polish website. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 > > # Snip > > > > I'm trying to figure why the Optimal Diet can succeed at addressing Cancer , which is Sugar addictive , but cannot address its precursor , Candida , which is also Sugar addictive . > > +++Hi Ed. I believe Dr. K does have different diets for different health problems, but I do not have the details. So I don't think he has " one diet that fits all, " since you'll notice he recommends much lower carbs for people with obesity and diabetes. > > His book is written in Polish and translated to English. He also has a Polish website. > ## Hi Bee . Thank you . Yes example when treating Diabetes , daily carbs are lowered from 50 to 15 grams / day . See link below . Link : http://homodiet.netfirms.com/ <-- under Diabetes However , my question was , Why or How can the Optimal Diet Treat CANCER and not Candida ? Especially , considering Candida is the precursor to Cancer . Since you say the Optimal Diet is not used to treat Candida . I'm curious why you made that statement ? Thanks again , Bee . Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 > ## Hi Bee . Thank you . Yes example when treating Diabetes , daily carbs are lowered from 50 to 15 grams / day . See link below . > > Link : http://homodiet.netfirms.com/ <-- under Diabetes > > However , my question was , Why or How can the Optimal Diet Treat CANCER and not Candida ? > > Especially , considering Candida is the precursor to Cancer . > > Since you say the Optimal Diet is not used to treat Candida . I'm curious why you made that statement ? +++Hi Ed. I should not have stated that. You are right, if they treat cancer, they are treating candida. What we do not know is " what diet " is recommended for cancer. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 > ## Snip > > > > Especially , considering Candida is the precursor to Cancer . > > > > Since you say the Optimal Diet is not used to treat Candida . I'm curious why you made that statement ? > > +++Hi Ed. I should not have stated that. You are right, if they treat cancer, they are treating candida. What we do not know is " what diet " is recommended for cancer. > > All the best, Bee ## Hi Bee , Thanks for the clarification . You are also right , they do not state the specifics they utilize when treating Cancer . Perhaps its in their Polish version of the Optimal Diet . Unfortunately neither of us seems to read Polish Lastly , you mentioned , stepping in as your clone ..lol Doubtful . You've got " Bee Wilder " covered from all the angles Cordially , Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Hi Ed, At the risk of putting words in someone else's mouth, I think what Bee intended to say when she wrote that the Optimal Diet is not used to treat candida, is that the Polish doc who uses it has not specifically used it to treat candida. He HAS used it to treat cancer, etc. Bee recommends it use, however, to treat candida and in general to become healthier. It's not that it WON'T treat candida, it's just that it was not designed or especially intended by its creator to do so. Roy T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 > > > Hi Ed, > At the risk of putting words in someone else's mouth, I think what Bee intended to say when she wrote that the Optimal Diet is not used to treat candida, is that the Polish doc who uses it has not specifically used it to treat candida. He HAS used it to treat cancer, etc. Bee recommends it use, however, to treat candida and in general to become healthier. It's not that it WON'T treat candida, it's just that it was not designed or especially intended by its creator to do so. > Roy T. > ## Hey Roy , Thanks . However , the Optimal Diet supposedly is designed to treat numerous diseases . The list of diseases however ,is vague . Moreover , the protocols of treatment , as well as the list of diseases treated by the Optimal Diet are not translated into English . Since Bee or I do not read Polish , we agree we are unable to deduce enough to locate the information . Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I feel like one concept i've learned from finding Bee's information is that there is one type of diet to treat all disease - high fat, moderate protein, low carb. Dr. Weston A Price proved the same concept. The question is, what is the 'perfect diet' where a human can truly reach 'optimal immunity?' From my own interpretation, a diet devoid of mostly all carbohydrates is 'perfect' or 'optimal'- aka Bee's Candida Diet. This may significantly lower the time it takes for us to heal (one month for every year.) This doesn't mean that a diet that uses flour in some recipes (e.g. Optimal Diet) won't still continue to build up your immune system and have the ability to cure disease. Kind Regards, > ## Hey Roy , > > Thanks . However , the Optimal Diet supposedly is designed to treat numerous diseases . The list of diseases however ,is vague . > > Moreover , the protocols of treatment , as well as the list of diseases treated by the Optimal Diet are not translated into English . > > Since Bee or I do not read Polish , we agree we are unable to deduce enough to locate the information . > > Ed > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 > > > Hi Ed, > At the risk of putting words in someone else's mouth, I think what Bee intended to say when she wrote that the Optimal Diet is not used to treat candida, is that the Polish doc who uses it has not specifically used it to treat candida. He HAS used it to treat cancer, etc. Bee recommends it use, however, to treat candida and in general to become healthier. It's not that it WON'T treat candida, it's just that it was not designed or especially intended by its creator to do so. +++Hi Roy T. I was incorrect by saying the Optimal Diet does not treat candida, from the perspective that cancer is actually candida/fungus. So that's what Ed was referring to, that cancer is not cancer at all. Dr. Jan K does treat cancer with his Optimal Diet, but we do not know what he recommends. We do know he adjusts his diet as needed for different kinds of health issues, i.e. diabetes and obesity. We have to assume he also adjusts it to treat cancer since cancer/candida feeds off of sugars, high carbs, toxins, etc. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Bee, Still curious about Candida and what it actually is? I know you say it can't be killed off, it must return to it's natural state although most of the Natropathic community says it can be killed off....I was on Diflucan many years ago and noticed a huge difference in my energy level. What would cause this if candida cannot be killed off? Just wondering? thanks, Gail > > Since my calculation of protein, fat and carb ratios are the same as recommended by Dr. Jan Kwasniewski for his Optimal Diet, you might like to read this brief reference that explains The Optimal Diet very well: > > http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/The-Optimal-Diet > > Dr. Kwasniewski recommends going on his diet cold-turkey, however it creates too many detoxifying and healing symptoms and reactions for candida sufferers, so that's why they must gradually increase good fats as they decrease carbs. > > The best in health, Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2010 Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 > > Bee, > > Still curious about Candida and what it actually is? I know you say it can't be killed off, it must return to it's natural state although most of the Natropathic community says it can be killed off....I was on Diflucan many years ago and noticed a huge difference in my energy level. What would cause this if candida cannot be killed off? Just wondering? +++Hi Gail, Candida is a fungus, and cancer is a fungus too. See the diagram on this page to understand how bugs evolve and change due to their environment, from viruses to bacteria to fungus: Bacteria and Fungus are formed everywhere in Nature and in all bodies, including animals, in order to clean up. It's like the manure pile and the flies, with the manure pile representing the poor condition of the body. You cannot get rid of the manure pile by killing off the flies. You must clean up the manure pile instead, which means building up your immune system. Of course the Germ Theory of Disease is false - see these: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu5_3_1.php Drugs like diflucan are toxic/poisonous so they just add more poisons to an already sick body, that the body has to work hard at getting rid of. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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