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>From: Kajo119@...

>Reply-dwarfismonelist

>HelenJW@...

>CC: dwarfismonelist

>Subject: Re: Opinion on Your Reply to Helen

>Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:24:40 EDT

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>From: Kajo119@...

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>That's great Helen about your parents - but I disagree with you in that

>many

>average size parents out there have very little experience with dwarfism

>and

>if they have a special child with certain conditions post that when other

>parents in the same situation see that they may have something in common

>with

>that person they will be able help each other out as this is a dwarfism

>listserv - I am sure it is not meant to demean the short stature child only

>bring awareness to their situation. We don't need to get worked up because

>parents address their child's dwarfism first and then their name - to me

>that

>is really looking for something to be offended about and those parents love

>their children very much and would never do anything to hurt their child.

>Some average size parents with dwarf children are in denial and want

>nothing

>to do with LPA as they want to make sure they are treated like everyone

>else

>- I think we need to " chill on being offended " as I have learned. So I

>think

>it's great that parents address their child's dwarfism in their emails - I

>feel we all know they are a person first and if anyone (dwarf or average

>size) doesn't perceive that then that is their issue to deal with. But

>some

>average size parents go through a lot of emotions when they have a dwarf

>child and mentioning it on the listserv I am positive is in no way to

>demean

>their precious one, only to see and obtain support from everyone on the

>listserv. I have seen so many posts about people being offended by career

>choices that LP's have made. It is difficult to find well paying work in

>the

>average size world and if someone has something they love to do and it is

>THEIR CHOICE by all means go for it - I played a munchkin for Gloria

>Estefan's birthday and I couldn't believe the people being so offended -

>and

>someone even wrote a letter to her manager complaining how dare she demean

>little people and I spoke with her and I was there and in no way did she

>even

>think that - her favorite movie was the Wizard of Oz and her managers

>thought

>why not a Wizard of Oz Theme Party - doing that for myself was a step in

>acceptance for me in that what is perceived by other people is not

>necessarily what is going on - a few years ago I would have been on the

> " How

>dare they do that " but people have no idea what is going on unless they

>are

>there and if you have acceptance of who you are and how you are perceived

>then stuff like that doesn't matter and I have a great day job in TV

>production. But I see so many people on the listserv being " offended " and

>they have no idea what is going on with that person's particular situation.

>But I watched Shasta McNasty last night yes they poked fun at Vern - but

>some

>will be offended and post comments - and yet I also saw an lp working in

>the

>office showing her to be like everyone else on the show- but I am sure Vern

>is having a blast and if I want to take it on and be offended that is my

>choice. - Cyndi (lp)

It is difficult to find well paying work in the

average size world and if someone has something they love to do and it is

THEIR CHOICE by all means go for it

I totally disagree with it being difficult to get a job. Im an LP and I've

worked for two television stations working behind the scenes. I went to

college, received my degree, and was hired right after graduation. Im so

tired of people using the cop out that because they're an lp,its hard to get

a job! Get an education,sell your skills and show that you're capable of

doing the job! This gains respect from employers. Yes, I agree that everyone

has a right to do what they can do, one should never use their appearance as

a reason why they can't get a job. I'm sure I've been discriminated before

when I didn't get jobs in the past, but I kept on trying. My parents always

taught me don't let anything get you down, just keep on trying, do the best

to your ability, and the best things will happen, and they have.

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Thank you, Ann!

I went the same route. I had my first job lined up before I left Oregon State

University in 1985.

I have been hired AND fired based upon my training, experience, credability, and

behavior. Somehow, I've managed to keep a paycheck coming for close to 15 years

-- I hope I can continue.

Some ask me if I have ever been discriminated against because of short stature.

I really don't know. I've never taken the time with those who rejected me.

I should note, however, I do have to spend sometime in heavy industrial plants

or manufacturing sites....some of which are not safe for me to work in. They

MUST discriminate here - not on the basis of appearance, but on basis of

physical capability for SAFETY reasons. However, I've never been denied access

to any of my customer sites.

Randy Bradford

(Owner of one chlorine fried brain, two rock n roll induced ringing ears and no

sanity.)

> I totally disagree with it being difficult to get a job. Im an LP and I've

> worked for two television stations working behind the scenes. I went to

> college, received my degree, and was hired right after graduation. Im so

> tired of people using the cop out that because they're an lp,its hard to get

> a job! Get an education,sell your skills and show that you're capable of

> doing the job! This gains respect from employers. Yes, I agree that everyone

> has a right to do what they can do, one should never use their appearance as

> a reason why they can't get a job. I'm sure I've been discriminated before

> when I didn't get jobs in the past, but I kept on trying. My parents always

> taught me don't let anything get you down, just keep on trying, do the best

> to your ability, and the best things will happen, and they have.

> >

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In a message dated 01/10/99 20:56:31 GMT Daylight Time, resq99@...

writes:

<< I totally disagree with it being difficult to get a job. Im an LP and I've

worked for two television stations working behind the scenes. I went to

college, received my degree, and was hired right after graduation. Im so

tired of people using the cop out that because they're an lp,its hard to get

a job! Get an education,sell your skills and show that you're capable of

doing the job! This gains respect from employers. >>

Not sure who wrote this, but I have to say I both diagree and agree.

I went ou got a great degree... a degree in Environmental Architecture, I'm

very profesional, I have a great portfilo, and when I apply for a job I have

almost always be short listed to recived an interview. Yet two years of

searching, in England, lead me to no job in an architectural firm. When I

was in the States I had a couple of firms tell me to give them a call as soon

as I graduated that they were very interested in me. Well, when I graduated

got married to and Englishman and moved. I feel that it depends on the

profession you have choosen and the discrimination problems in the area you

are looking for a job. My impairment of being only 3' 7 " tall has never been

an excuse, if anything it has made me push myself more. I now have run my

own consultancy part-time, work at a University in the reseach dept., and am

working on my PhD.

Don't take my letter the wrong way. I'm just trying to say there are many

people do not use their impairment as an excuse, but still have

discrimination problems.

Take care,

Jude

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Over to you Tom !

You're the resident US Gulf Expert !!

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> I am a Naval Reserve corpsman currently assigned to a USMC recon unit

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> Texas and am seeking employment in the offshore industry or remote

> locations as a medic or safety officer

> Experience includes over 15 years in the medical field, licensed

> vocational nurse (army Trained) various trauma courses,combat

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Well Lets see, Short version is the medical support companies (medic

systems,Walsh offshore, Entec, etc;) require as a min National Reg. as a

Paramedic.Most want at least 2 years as a medic. I have similar training

/experience as you do and they might like the fact that you have the

training but the Civie cert is what counts. The safety jobs they like

H2S,OSHA experience/training. Also helps to have computer skills. IF you

specific questions feel fre to email me

watch your six

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>Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:28:40 -0000

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>I am pleased to have found ths website, great information..

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>I am a Naval Reserve corpsman currently assigned to a USMC recon unit

>in

>Texas and am seeking employment in the offshore industry or remote

>locations as a medic or safety officer

>Experience includes over 15 years in the medical field, licensed

>vocational nurse (army Trained) various trauma courses,combat

>medicine courses,preventive medicine.. CV is available for transmittal

>Any information would be appreciated...If I can be of help let me

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Tom did you get the Battlebook I sent it to 4 sites and Daryl Wight got it

OK can you confirm?

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>>I am pleased to have found ths website, great information..

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>>I am a Naval Reserve corpsman currently assigned to a USMC recon unit

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>>Texas and am seeking employment in the offshore industry or remote

>>locations as a medic or safety officer

>>Experience includes over 15 years in the medical field, licensed

>>vocational nurse (army Trained) various trauma courses,combat

>>medicine courses,preventive medicine.. CV is available for transmittal

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gus,

nice site you have there.. hope you the best of luck but right now i have

nothing positive to add. i have had dealings with two american companies that

turned out very badly for those of us at the bottom. i would advise staying

away from eagle group international (wally johnson), and emirates palomar

medical technology services (buster glausen).

later on,

jerry

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Gus

Contact at Oilfield Medics she's always looking for medics as you will see

from this site.

Tony M

Gus Haines wrote:Hi all,

As you may know I run the Army Medic Site.

I have just added a page to help medical orientated people leaving the army

find a job.

What I would like to know is this:

Is there any companies that are activly recruiting that I could link to from

http://www.armymedic.info/resettlement.php ?

Any help would be appreciated

Regards,

Gus

AMS - Army Medic Site

http://www.armymedic.info

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what were the bad exiperences with those outfits? Email me offline if you

care not to air laundry in public

Cheers

Tom G

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>Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 08:36:36 -0700 (PDT)

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>gus,

> nice site you have there.. hope you the best of luck but right now i

>have nothing positive to add. i have had dealings with two american

>companies that turned out very badly for those of us at the bottom. i

>would advise staying away from eagle group international (wally johnson),

>and emirates palomar medical technology services (buster glausen).

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The sexist pigs, fancy them asking for a naughty sexy female RGN " carry on

up the gantry " ?

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>I have also had a word with Oilfield Medics in Preston, been registered

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>them for 3 years and never an offer of a job.

>They had an advert which asked for RGN, and female, naughty.

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Hi Ian,

I work for a offshore marine consultancy and we are currently looking for a

medic for work in Norwegian waters, could you be available or know anyone who

could be interested in this role its a short term 35 day project starting ASAP.

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Hey if anyone is looking for a job email me your resume my boss is looking for 2

medics for work in Kuwait.

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how much does it pay and can I bring my wife

Lorie Santarlasci <edemtp609@...> wrote: Hey if anyone is looking for a

job email me your resume my boss is looking for 2 medics for work in Kuwait.

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the pay hasn't change except for the uplift, it is now 35%.

Joe (Cholo) can give you the info about bringing your wife! Cholo is our new

Medical Supervisor!

mike mulholland <mo1medic@...> wrote: how much does it pay and can I

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Lorie Santarlasci <edemtp609@...> wrote: Hey if anyone is looking for a

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Congrats Mike!

Hey if anyone is looking

for a job email me your resume my boss is looking for 2 medics for

work in Kuwait.

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It's hard to find a job no matter what color you are. I applied to 18

places and only two even called me back.ONE was for a clerk position.

Are a certified tech?

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> I took the pharmacy tech course at Wayne comm. for 3mths and have'nt

> found a job yet its hard but I'm good and need a Job.I'm black And no

> one will hire me

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Dear dpeacesmaker,

I do not know what " Wayne comm. " is. Is that an online distance

learning site?

I am very sorry that you believe that not being hired may have to do

the color of your skin. Do you live in an area that is known for

prejudice?

I don't know how I can help a racial barrier.

However in GENERAL I will guide you the SAME way I would guide you if

you were not being hired and you did not know why:

1. Try volunteering

2. Site your academic performance

3. Offer to 'try out' or demonstrate your skills

4. Consider working for an agency or temp service to gain experience

If you have no skills because it was all reading and knowledge then

you will have to 'sell' the idea to a prospective employer to hire you

with a plan or allow you to volunteer with a plan to hire you after

you obtain skills/experience. Convince them that

1. You are worth taking a chance to hire and train

2. Offer a specific time period of their training in writing that they

can accept the terms. Such as: If you hire me and training me for 4

months and at the end of four months I do not perform to your

satisfaction in MEASURABLE terms, that you outline before I begin my

training or because I am not a good fit, I will accept the termination

without any argument.

3. Offer to volunteer to gain experience without pay. Explain that you

want to be a valuable employee and understand why they would hesitate

to hire someone 'new' to the field.

Get signed references from someone in every walk of life: long time

friend, former employer, teacher, long time bank teller,

priest/minister etc. Bring them with you to an interview.

As a LAST resort: write a letter of appeal stating that you have had a

difficult time finding work and you believe it is due to your

inexperience. (do not mention prejudice). In this letter send copies

of the references, resume, and explain your offer to work as a

volunteer. Do NOT send this to more than one employer at a time and

not until you have exhausted all possibilities otherwise it is the

WORSE thing you could do. As a last resort, how could it hurt you? But

too early it would ban you from the field. LEARN from each one how

they respond to you, HOW to change the letter of appeal for the next

candidate(employer).

As an alternative LAST RESORT:

Go back to an employer and ask for them to be candid with you as to

why they did not hire you. OR what can you do to make yourself more

marketable.

To be honest with you I do not think that three months is a very long

time to be looking for work. UNLESS you hit the pavement and was

looking at about 2 -03 different employers per day per three months =

3e x 5d x 12wks = 180 job interviews/applications

or at minimum

2e x 5d x 12wks = 120 job interviews/applications

Since I doubt that is what you have done, in this short period of

time, and because I have seen it take up to 1 yr before some students

get hired, (usually at internship or within 6 months), I do not

believe it has to do with the color of your skin. I am not saying that

it is not possible. I just think you need to give it a bit more time.

IF you are landing interviews, the interview skills that you use are

very, very important. Surf the net for interview techniques and see if

you are making any major interview mistakes:

1. never discuss money or insurance or other benefits UNTIL an offer

is made to you.

2. never eat, smoke, or relax/slump while being interviewed

3. act like you could care less (always be actively interested and ask

questions pertaining to the job/duties)

4. never under-dress, never over-dress. Dress business attire

5. be late (be early at least by 15 minutes)

6. take a long time to respond to questions (be ready to answer

topical questions)

Always

1. know what your short and long term goals are

2. KNOW the employer's mission statement and philosophy

I do hope this helps.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Pharm Tech Educator

Site founder/owner

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> I took the pharmacy tech course at Wayne comm. for 3mths and have'nt

> found a job yet its hard but I'm good and need a Job.I'm black And no

> one will hire me

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I have a question. why on earth did you put your race

down? that has ABSOLUTELY NO bearing on your job

qualifications at all. It too me 3 moths to find a

job 10 years ago when I first started out too. be

patient. apply everywhere, and remember that some job

is better than no job!

--- dpeacesmaker <dpeacesmaker@...> wrote:

> I took the pharmacy tech course at Wayne comm. for

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> Job.I'm black And no

> one will hire me

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Sorry Jeanetta, but in the 5 states that looked for work in, most of

your suggestions don't work.

Volunteering and/or trying to prove your skills don't work. The main

reason is because in this day and age of theft and drug abuse, they

don't want anybody but paid employees behind the counter. Also, I've

had a hospital tell me that volunteering would make no difference in

my chances of getting a job.

Academics mean nothing. Employers only want experience. You could

spend a couple of years being the worst technician in the world after

doing in-store training but they'll still hire you over someone from a

good skill with no experience. In fact, if you look at most job ads,

they stress experience but very few mention training.

I've tried healthcare temp agencies. I never got job through them

because most pharmacies have their own employees fill in.

I've offered to prove myself to employers and have said that I am

willing to learn anything. But that just leads back to the lack of

experience.

I carry signed letters from instructors and the director of the

pharmacy technician program I was in. Even when I offer a copy to

them, they aren't interested.

And finally, I've asked employers why they didn't hire me. The answer

always is " We found someone better suited for the job " .

I hope your advice can work for others, but it hasn't gotten me anywhere.

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> > I took the pharmacy tech course at Wayne comm. for 3mths and have'nt

> > found a job yet its hard but I'm good and need a Job.I'm black And no

> > one will hire me

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Sorry that none of my suggestions have ever panned out for you.

I do know that they HAVE helped others in the past. Some of whom HAVE

posted on this site, to the contrary.

Much depends upon

a. state laws

b. HOW you present yourself

c. the amount of money that the employer has to spend on employee

hiring and willingness to take a chance if hiring experienced workers

has not panned out in the immediate past

What are your thoughts on race? Do you believe that after three months

of looking for work once could or should think it is a race issue or

strictly an issue of experience?

I have a very culturally diversified teaching setting. My students no

matter what color are hired at a 90% PLUS rate. I do not see the

prejudice here in my area. That does not mean it does not exist, but

my students of all color/ethnicity/religion do get hired. Most are

hired right after internship, which suggests experience is a

motivating factor. HOWEVER it was experience gained without the

employer putting out a dime! Even the mal-practice insurance is paid

for by the school. NOTHING is in writing they do not have to hire the

tech extern.

Letters of rec from teachers carry weight if there is no experiential

component to the course but if there is an externship letters of rec

from a pharmacist or tech who trained the person in externship do

carry more wt. So again I agree with experience, but one must gain it

through volunteer efforts sometimes if employers are not willing to

hire otherwise.

Persistence is the key. I am sorry that this has not worked out for you.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Pharm Tech Educator

Founder/owner

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I recommend applying for jobs as a clerk in retail and pharmacy

" helper " in hospital as well. Any job in the pharmacy will be an

asset. When i was interviewed i was always asked did you work in pharm

before, what did u do there?

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> Sorry that none of my suggestions have ever panned out for you.

> I do know that they HAVE helped others in the past. Some of whom HAVE

> posted on this site, to the contrary.

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> Much depends upon

> a. state laws

> b. HOW you present yourself

> c. the amount of money that the employer has to spend on employee

> hiring and willingness to take a chance if hiring experienced workers

> has not panned out in the immediate past

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> What are your thoughts on race? Do you believe that after three months

> of looking for work once could or should think it is a race issue or

> strictly an issue of experience?

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> I have a very culturally diversified teaching setting. My students no

> matter what color are hired at a 90% PLUS rate. I do not see the

> prejudice here in my area. That does not mean it does not exist, but

> my students of all color/ethnicity/religion do get hired. Most are

> hired right after internship, which suggests experience is a

> motivating factor. HOWEVER it was experience gained without the

> employer putting out a dime! Even the mal-practice insurance is paid

> for by the school. NOTHING is in writing they do not have to hire the

> tech extern.

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> Letters of rec from teachers carry weight if there is no experiential

> component to the course but if there is an externship letters of rec

> from a pharmacist or tech who trained the person in externship do

> carry more wt. So again I agree with experience, but one must gain it

> through volunteer efforts sometimes if employers are not willing to

> hire otherwise.

>

> Persistence is the key. I am sorry that this has not worked out for you.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

> Pharm Tech Educator

> Founder/owner

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just curious yuriy04, where do you live?

yuriy04 <yuriy04@...> wrote: It's hard to find a job no matter

what color you are. I applied to 18

places and only two even called me back.ONE was for a clerk position.

Are a certified tech?

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> I took the pharmacy tech course at Wayne comm. for 3mths and have'nt

> found a job yet its hard but I'm good and need a Job.I'm black And no

> one will hire me

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LALA land. Los Angeles. You can find me partying it up with Paris,

Lindsey, et. ;)

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> I took the pharmacy tech course at Wayne comm. for 3mths and have'nt

> found a job yet its hard but I'm good and need a Job.I'm black And no

> one will hire me

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Hi my name is Suzette and I am 41. Yes racism and prejudice do

exist . Bump that, you walk in with confidence and make sure you speak

to the right people. Talk with the pharmacist in charge, lead techs and

make sure you have a copy in hand of updated resume! DO NOT LET YOUR

COLOR GET IN YOUR WAY! I'm black just like you and it's hard out here

right now. Have you seen they are cutting jobs again, unemployment is

going up. I work at one of the toughest retail places to work at

Walgreens been there a year and it has not been nice. I hung in there

for the need to take care of my 5 almost grown children. I came from

IV's in a hospital in Chicago. I was unemployed in Houston, Tx for 9

months before anyone would call me for anything and no they do not pay

in the south as they do in the north. The cost of living is going up

everywhere. Do not dare give up. It takes a lot of networking and

willing to take whatever they give you, and yes you will take a paycut

or don't work at all. That is the motto for company's now days. Trust

me there is always someone that will work for less than you want. You

didn't say where you live and if you are certified or not and stay on

top of your lessons even though you are not working and smile it helps,

dress for success. My one blue 100 dollar suit works everytime. Change

that attitude to SOMEONE WILL HIRE ME ! They can see that a mile away.

I know what you are going thru. I just took a prn job at the hospital

and I met the pharmacist thru the IV certification class she was giving

and she said she needed a backup tech now thats about 25 hours a week.

I'm now at both jobs prn work is as needed they will work with you.

Just be willing to take until you can do better. I work almost 7 days a

week (have high goals right now)and I'm tired but it will pay off you

never know who you might run into that can give you a job. Take any job

while you are looking employers prefer employed than unemployed.

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