Re: Excedrin & Fioricet Warning

[Guest guest]

Fioricet contains a barbiturate. Barbs are highly addictive and are known to

alter the GABA receptors in the brain. I know someone who was thrown into a

hellacious withdrawal after having been on that headache med for a while and

then his doctor took him off cold turkey.

The problem ended up 100x's worse than it was before he took this junk. To " fix "

the problem, they put him on benzos and he is living a nightmare now and hooked

on benzos.

Good old medicine. They create a whole new problem so you forget what your old

one was.

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> Dear Bee & Group

> Years ago, I had relentless headaches. Doc Rx'd Fioricet, good for migraines &

other pain. I used Excedrin a lot & took Fioricet at night. Long story short, my

headaches increased. I learned that Fioricet is known to cause rebound headaches

& pain...more, more, more is needed.

> Excedrin of course has caffeine, so pretty soon you're getting headaches

because your body wants that caffeine. A neurologist wasnted to inject my neck

with something & do an iodine brain scan. I was out of there fast !

> Get off of these 2 meds if you use either regularly. They increase pain...do

a google search for rebound headache & rebound pain.

> Best, Susie

>

[Guest guest]

I have not had rebound headaches from using Fioricet. I first got them back

when I had episodic bad headaches and eye pain (from dryness!), and I asked for

a pain medication that would not put me to sleep at the same time that it eased

off my headaches.

(I was given Vicodin over 10 years ago, when I had pleurisy with a serious case

of bronchitis, and it was just way too sedating. I could not do my work with

more than 1/2 tablet of Vicodin on board.)

But I would think that, worse than caffeine, all three of these medications

contain acetaminophen, which is known to be toxic to the liver, and it will be

something else from which to detox (for me, anyway) down the road.

I have been taking Fioricet and now Excedrin (instead) for leg pain. I'm sorry,

I tried using both the oil of oregano externally and white willow bark

internally, but the combination just didn't ease the pain enough to leave me

functional (able to work and concentrate, and also to walk around). The oil of

oregano works well for leg pain--up to a point.

We're allowed some minimal caffeine on this plan, since we can have green tea,

which does have some caffeine (not as much as black tea).

I'm also familiar with caffeine cravings... when I used to drink coffee at work,

I'd have a headache the first night I started drinking coffee, then I'd have a

headache when I tried to quit coffee again.

Believe me, I agree with eating and taking care of ourselves as close to nature

as possible... but I am now temporarily taking Excedrin because it allows me to

function.

I wish I had the luxury available of taking a major leave from work and using it

to get through some of the worst of whatever healing reactions are coming, but

that's not an option.

When people do the Gerson therapy and come to their hospital in Mexico to get

started, they frequently come with a companion or family member, because they

often need someone to become a full-time helper to them, because that program is

very, very labor-intensive. (I know this from reading, not from direct

experience.) I think Gerson is a good program but very complicated.

My only option to get through Bee's program is to pretty much do it myself. My

SO helps me when he can, but he doesn't even really cook, and he's kind of

skeptical of the healing reaction I've been through so far.

Pam Maltzman

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> Dear Bee & Group

> Years ago, I had relentless headaches. Doc Rx'd Fioricet, good for migraines &

other pain. I used Excedrin a lot & took Fioricet at night. Long story short, my

headaches increased. I learned that Fioricet is known to cause rebound headaches

& pain...more, more, more is needed.

> Excedrin of course has caffeine, so pretty soon you're getting headaches

because your body wants that caffeine. A neurologist wasnted to inject my neck

with something & do an iodine brain scan. I was out of there fast !

> Get off of these 2 meds if you use either regularly. They increase pain...do

a google search for rebound headache & rebound pain.

> Best, Susie

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