Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 what causes hypoxia? (not what 'is' hypoxia) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 Hi Jim; I've done my 1000 hours of reading about EMF. I've got to mention here that though you're partly right and EMF stresses the system and it doesn't have to cause problems, specifically cancer, EMF exposure results in stress symptoms that are similar to any other allergic response...That being anxiety, irritability, hyperactivity, etc..due to elevated adrenal activity and higher cortisol levels. The problem with that is the system will have a reduced white cell count and may be prone to easier infection. And chronic stress often leads to other problems as you know. Cell phone use has been shown pretty conclusively to affect brain wave rhythms and produce similar symptoms to other EMF pollution plus memory loss and confusion. This may be in part due to the skewed Ca - K ion exchange rates in your whole system, particularly in the brain. Cell phone use has been shown to cause fetal deformities like open spinal cords in both chick embryos and human fetus, and a higher rate of spontaneous abortions. The Bioelectromagnetic Society abstracts have encapsulated the results of hundreds of studies in the last four years, most of which deal with the impacts of EMF and RF exposure. www./group/bioelectromagnetics should still have the abstracts posted in PDF format. If they're not there, anyone can email me and I'll send them to you. It's too bad that many of these studies have to be epidemiological in nature because the power fields are already out there.'Prudent avoidance' will help reduce our exposure. On the plus side, the last year's work has a lot of healing information in it. Well worth a look. As a result of a request I've posted a whole lot of bioelectric links this week to www./group/Beck-n-Stuff . There's enough there to satisfy 'most anyone. ciao Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 Duncan, A agree with all you've posted and believe it is important for everyone to minimize their EMF & RF exposure. And, STatistical evidence of all the issues you cite is powerful and believable. But, there are other things of which I am aware that mitigate some of these blanket statements. First, I have been practicing & teaching simplified acupressure for over 20 years. One of the most profound aspects of our bodies is its ability to adapt to environmental changes. One of the problems with chi balancing therapy, which is what acupuncture & acupressure realy are, is that even though we reset the systems for someone with an illness, its effects may only last from 15 minutes to a few hours if the person treated has a condition caused by a stressor that is constant, such as eating sugar, and the person doesn't change their behavior. Conversely, if a momentary stressor such as EMF affects the body negatively, the body will reset itself -- usually within 15-20 minutes. Simple kinesiology will prove this. And, EVERY single study on the effects of any of these things has been carried out by mainstream science, which, while excellent within the limitations created by their mindset to isolate & objectify disease, tend to ignore things like diet and oxygenation. So, ALL of their results, IMO, must be taken with some salt. EMF contributing to cancer, for instance, which is actually caused by hypoxia. As I suggested in my previous post on this, since we on this list understand that, ALL studies, rhetoric and assumptions concerning the -- Booga Booga CANCER CAUSING la di da's in life -- need to be filtered, IMO, through an understanding that these things can only be considered incidental to causing cancer. They are more likely to help in determining where one gets a cancer than whether or not they will. You make good points in that EMF & RF can also lower white cell count, etc., but only, IMO, if they are constant stressors, such as working all day on a PC, as opposed to using one for 15 minutes 5 times a day. And, a powerful oxygenation program such as regular ozone use will raise the WBC count & relax the grouchy moods too. In other words, IMO, our bodies can shake off most environmental stressors unless they are constant & the body is not resupplied with the ingredients it needs to withstand these stresses. I believe the evidence shows it is the constancy of an EMF or RF exposure that is damaging, not the fact of its existence, and none of them included people using the awareness we have on this list. NOTE: I am speaking only of minimal EMF & RF fields. Standing in front of a military radar or microwave for even a few minutes will probably alter your DNA! I am not preaching unconcern of the risks of EMF & RF radiation. The point I am trying to make is that everywhere we turn there is a new danger to the point where people frequently ask, " Where can I go, what can I eat, to stay healthy? Is it impossible? " And, this fear mentality, a result, IMO, of the media assault on us with irrelevant bad news day-in-day-out, is a constant stressor of negativity that I GUARANTEE will make people sick more often and more seriously than finding out that you can stop worrying about your TV causing a cancer if you raise your cellular O2 level! As for the constant release of stressors like cortisol, adrenalin & noradrenalin, which actually cause many of the effects you mention, they have been proven at the Heartmath Institute to be more a result of one's own mindset & attitude, not outside causes. And, regardless of their source, their release can be stopped by a simple 15 minute-a-day meditation of the Freeze-Frame technique. Both health and disease are a " stew " of ingredients, most of which are in the control of the individual. The body can throw off the effects of environmental stresses -- even nucelear radiation* -- if we supply it with the tools it needs for the job. jim * A doctor working with people in the Bikini Atoll area found that radiation poisoning could effectively be treated with megadoses of about 25 vitamins and minerals that were necessary to handle the assault. Duncan Crow wrote: > > Hi Jim; > > I've done my 1000 hours of reading about EMF. I've got to mention here that > though you're partly right and EMF stresses the system and it doesn't have > to cause problems, specifically cancer, EMF exposure results in stress > symptoms that are similar to any other allergic response...That being > anxiety, irritability, hyperactivity, etc..due to elevated adrenal activity > and higher cortisol levels. > ----- For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution; and it is always wrong -- H.L. Mencken jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 Jim Lambert wrote: > > As for the constant release of stressors like cortisol, adrenalin & > noradrenalin, which actually cause many of the effects you mention, they > have been proven at the Heartmath Institute to be more a result of one's > own mindset & attitude, not outside causes. heads up, Folks, right up there is the most profound " health " information you will ever see. When our attitude shifts away from a fear base to a trust in a personally safe world, we will know freedom from dis-ease. thanks for the wisdom, Jim. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Hi Jim; You are right of course. The EMF and other stresses wear off at varying rates depending on what your activities are. And nowadays we have to actively practice de-stressing where in earlier times we did not. But still, with 'prudent avoidance' being a key phrase nowadays, people must be made aware that safe levels on a continuous basis are being set by business and government interests in our countries. In Russia the safe levels are deemed to be the levels at which NO biological effects are noted. That would be about 1,000 times lower than the rates allowed here by law. That earlier concern WRT EMF and cancer - cell division rate increases, including cancer growth, with exposure to the right freqs (50-60 Hz). When the acclerated rate gets started in a tumour it does not stop when the EMF stress levels have dropped. Seems it's a bit more of a trigger of quicker replication, but not necessarily cause of the cancer. Sharon, Jim's statement is more pragmatic than profound. Your quote " When our attitude shifts away from a fear base to a trust in a personally safe world, we will know freedom from dis-ease. " takes it a bit too far. Our rights to have usefully potent nutrients and herbal medicines are being assaulted by the pharma cartel as we write. It would be a real shame if any of us trusted this control grab. For example, you can be in personal safety and still paying through the nose for your vitamin E, and still have to take 10 pills minimum per day like the do in Norway where they've been legislated to not more than 30 units per capsule. C'mon, we can remove our personal stresses, but burying our heads in the sand will not make the cartel go away and do something else. I think we must accept any necessary stress and/or fear, then alleviate it perdiodically like Jim suggested, not to ignore everything that might stress you out. Trusting your situation not to be harmful does not keep you free from disease. ciao Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Duncan, Well said. I neither recommend nor practice ignoring real dangers. All I espouse is perspective. But, I must disagree partially with one statement, your last, " Trusting your situation not to be harmful does not keep you free from disease. " Quantum physics is proving more every day that perceived consensual reality has less bearing on one's life than their core beliefs! Read The Holographic Universe for enough scientific information to prove this fact of the mystical nature of Existence to anyone. My stressing this point has two reasons. First, believing everything is hopeless will alone make one ill, and render them vulnerable to everything that would attack them. Second, while I believe it is important to pay atention to real dangers, the rest of the day I blithely depend on Creation to protect my every footstep, as I go about my day smelling the flowers. namaste, jim Duncan Crow wrote: > C'mon, we can remove our personal stresses, but burying our heads in the > sand will not make the cartel go away and do something else. I think we must > accept any necessary stress and/or fear, then alleviate it perdiodically > like Jim suggested, not to ignore everything that might stress you out. > Trusting your situation not to be harmful does not keep you free from > disease. > > ciao > > Duncan ----- carpe diem, carpe pucunia, carpe femina. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Thank you. I had electric company come in this morning and it was measured at 3 - 5 mGauss. I guess it is high, but he says it is the average or so in my town, which is kind of far from the city and is not industrial. How do I check if cables are intertwined? Could you also tell which level is OK as far as mGauss? Thanks again. --- charles <charles@...> wrote: > Hello Konstantin, > > if the powerlines are underground, there is no > danger, because they have to > be shielded. > > If the lines are hanging in ther air, that is > something else. > If the cables are intertwined, there is less > magnetic fields. > Otherwise I would say 50 meters distance at least. > > Greetings, > Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > EMF > > > > , > > > > I have a question for you and hope you can help. I > am > > looking for a house in the US and find a lot of > houses > > are set not too far from the street and powerlines > > that run on the street are kind of close. These > are > > not busy streets and powerlines are just street > > powerlines and probably do not carry too much > voltage. > > How far should a non-ES person sleep from those. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you ? > > Small Business - Try our new Resources site > > http://smallbusiness./resources/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Start by determining what type of EMF you have: Magnetic field? Electric field? Radiofrequency (microwave)? Second, determine the source(s) of the field present in your location. (It is often easier to shield/change the source, rather than shield/change the area you want to protect). You will need a meter to accomplish this. This meter will also be useful after you do your mitigation to make sure you have achieved what you set out to do. With this information, you will have the following choices: 1] turn off, discard, or replace high EMF sources 2] increase your distance from high EMF sources 3] use appropriate shielding for any remaining sources Most electric fields and RF/MW can be shielding with grounded, conductive materials such as fabrics, paints, and plastics Magnetic shielding is possible but trickier, since size, shape and position of the magnetic shieldoing are as important as the selection of the proper materials. Since the possible combinations of circumstances are limitless, I cannot give you more specifics here. But I will be happy to provide further guidance for any specific situation you may have. Best regards, Emil DeToffol Less EMF Inc. (www.lessemf.com) tel: +1-518-432-1550 e-mail: lessemf@... EMF > What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am getting > lost in all the information and don't know where to start. > > I dont understand all the " grounding " wires and shields and etc! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 I am not an expert and I have to begin the conversation with splitting the full spectrum up into 2 basic ranges, some of the lower end which can be measured by a gauss meter and some of the upper radio or microwave spectrum which is measured by an RF meter (radio frequency meter). Grounding has more to do with the electrical current running through your house and body and by allowing the electric current to run to the ground so your body won't store it as much. There are many cords that can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall socket that can allow the excess electrical current or body voltage to flow away from you. There has been also problems in some areas with energy running up into the house from the ground in certain areas so this doesn't always work well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or an electrical store and have someone help you hook it up and you'll see what I mean. The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields at the lower end of the spectrum like those around wires, appliances, ovens, etc. These are very difficult to shield against and fortunately diminish within a few feet from the source in many cases. Power lines outside your house may pervade your entire house so you are screwed. You don't want anything above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading through out your house. Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most, 0.1 mG. There will be spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc. Most of these can be fixed too. Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio waves can give off higher harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical wiring and Stetzer filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can help reduce that radiation. Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone towers, etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various other devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some fashion. There is much to learn. Start small and experiment. Get some meters and learn for yourself is my advice. Good luck. There are some great resources on this list, meaning real professionals and electrosensitives that live with this condition and have tried 1,000 different things with some success. I walk with you. On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:19 PM, christina2005r wrote: > What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am getting > lost in all the information and don't know where to start. > > I dont understand all the " grounding " wires and shields and etc! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Wow, thanks for all that infromation! Do you know a website or book that explains it? (Meaning practical things I can do about it, not just " oh EMF is so harmful " .) Also, > Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone towers, > etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for > windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various other > devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some fashion. Is there any basics on what is the first most effictive thing that I can get started on? I know there are so many different ones you could spend thousands of dollars. What would be the " easiest " thing I could just do right away (and then do more elaborate as I learn more?) > > > What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am getting > > lost in all the information and don't know where to start. > > > > I dont understand all the " grounding " wires and shields and etc! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Here is where we need to get more specific. What are your symptoms and where do you feel that way? Do you know what is causing the pain or symptoms? (like a tower nearby or your house wiring, computer screen, cell phones, etc.) Lessemf.com has books on house wiring. I have worked with Keen at emfservices.com for having my house diagnosed and for shielding recommendations. On Feb 11, 2006, at 6:16 PM, christina2005r wrote: > Wow, thanks for all that infromation! > > Do you know a website or book that explains it? (Meaning practical > things I can do about it, not just " oh EMF is so harmful " .) > > Also, > > >> Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone towers, >> etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for >> windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various > other >> devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some > fashion. > > > Is there any basics on what is the first most effictive thing that I > can get started on? I know there are so many different ones you could > spend thousands of dollars. What would be the " easiest " thing I could > just do right away (and then do more elaborate as I learn more?) > > > >> >>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am > getting >>> lost in all the information and don't know where to start. >>> >>> I dont understand all the " grounding " wires and shields and etc! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 > >> > >>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am > > getting > >>> lost in all the information and don't know where to start. > >>> > >>> I dont understand all the " grounding " wires and shields and etc! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 > Also, years ago I was given one of those " pendants " from > ToolsForWellness that is supposed to reduce EMF. Is that really > effective? Which one did you try? (Tools for Wellness sells lots of pendants) I have tried literally dozens of EMF pendants/protection devices, and while overall my luck has been pretty bad, there are a few which have really helped me. So much that I was able to return to using computers, watch TV, etc. without nearly as much problems. So you these CAN be helpful, and certainly in a workplace environment where you can't do much about the florescent lights and computers. Of course, what worked for *me* won't necessarily work for *you*, but I can tell you what worked for me: Quantum Products stuff (www.QuantumProducts.com or www.natural-stress-reduction.com). Power strip to plug in the computer. Software which runs on the computer (they even have a free 15-day download for this so you can see if it helps). Some people like the stronger/more expensive items that treat large areas, and I indeed used to use these too, but they don't seem necessary for me anymore. Springlife Polarizers (http://choosecra.com/htmlpages/homepage/prodinfo/springlife.html). These pendants are the most effective portable item I've found, and I get by with the smaller items (the " Lifeforce Pendant " is getting used the most right now), although at work a larger item may be needed. I use both of these product lines together -- by themselves, they seem to lack total protection. Together, they work a lot better. There are lots of other devices that people have reported success with here (Personal Rejuvenizer Pendant, Tachyon stuff, Aulterra sticker, etc.). So, you may find *something* that works for you. I combine my use of devices with nutritional supplements and diet to further strengthen me against EMF (I too can spend 10 hours/day sitting in front of a computer, so I need all the help I can get!) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Well said ! That's about what I wanted to know when I first joined, and wasn't even sure how to ask. Just jumped in and started reading. I'm gonna print that for a friend who is clueless about my problems. Except that I've got him using magnetic foot insoles w/good results, and he bought a Q-ray bracelet that he believes was helping heal some nerve injuries on that arm... so there's hope he'll not think I'm so far out after a while. Have a good day all, and welcome all you new folks. BTW- I sent you an email about publishing Shivani, don't know if you got it. Sent Tayloka a couple links offline too, so check junk box maybe. ~ Snoshoe > > I am not an expert and I have to begin the conversation with splitting > the full spectrum up into 2 basic ranges, some of the lower end which > can be measured by a gauss meter and some of the upper radio or > microwave spectrum which is measured by an RF meter (radio frequency > meter). > Grounding has more to do with the electrical current running through > your house and body and by allowing the electric current to run to the > ground so your body won't store it as much. There are many cords that > can attach to the 3rd lower plug of the wall socket that can allow the > excess electrical current or body voltage to flow away from you. There > has been also problems in some areas with energy running up into the > house from the ground in certain areas so this doesn't always work > well. Buy a voltage meter from Lessemf.com or an electrical store and > have someone help you hook it up and you'll see what I mean. > > The gauss meter measures basic magnetic fields at the lower end of the > spectrum like those around wires, appliances, ovens, etc. These are > very difficult to shield against and fortunately diminish within a few > feet from the source in many cases. Power lines outside your house may > pervade your entire house so you are screwed. You don't want anything > above 2 milligauss as a baseline reading through out your house. > Ideally, 0.00 is what your want are at most, 0.1 mG. There will be > spikes around bad wiring, dimmer switches etc. Most of these can be > fixed too. > > Moving up the spectrum, appliances and radio waves can give off higher > harmonics or frequencies back on the electrical wiring and Stetzer > filters and Quantum harmonizer power strips can help reduce that > radiation. > > Then onto Radio, microwave, etc. from TV, Radio, Cell phone towers, > etc. There is clothing that has silver lining, plastic film for > windows, copper paint and plastic sheets for walls, and various other > devices and objects that block or transform the energy in some fashion. > There is much to learn. Start small and experiment. Get some meters and > learn for yourself is my advice. > Good luck. There are some great resources on this list, meaning real > professionals and electrosensitives that live with this condition and > have tried 1,000 different things with some success. > I walk with you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 (From christina2005r): I am guessing the main culprit is both the typical monitor work computer (laptop). I use them combined for >12 hours daily most days for work. Plus the fluorescent lights at work. I am guessing also just general " EMF overload " because I use a cell phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around a lot of " gadgets " unfortunately. Ugh .. 12 hours daily on a computer and 4 hours on a cellphone? That sounds a pretty high exposure to me. It was these sorts of levels that caused the original " classic " ES problems identified in Sweden in the early 1990's, where continuous high levels harmed strong healthy people. (Many of the cases since then show far, far lower exposure levels damaging people whose immune system has been weakened by major illness). Something worth bearing in mind - electromagnetic radiation works on the " inverse square law " . If you get twice as close to a source, the radiation level doesn't just double, it quadruples. So spending days a foot from a TV/computer monitor or an inch from a mobile phone is going to give vastly higher exposure than a mast a mile away or the general background levels in a house. I would think that the Faraday cage shielding at night is going to give only a small reduction in exposure compared with your daily workplace exposure. Symptoms like reaction to fluorescent lights and cellphones, and doing better when walking in the woods (trees and water are great absorbers of external radiation), sound like classic ES developing. It is not just the light from fluorescents, but the particular frequencies they emit, that affect many ES people; low energy light bulbs can do the same. Personally I would say, for anyone with or developing ES, one minute on a cellphone/mobile is too long. Once you have got the symptoms, there seems to be a huge " hysteresis " effect - you have to go down to exposure levels a tiny fraction of the original ones before things start getting better. Also worth noting that cordless (DECT) phones give off high microwave levels from the base station continually. We have to shield against our next door neighbour's, as we can easily measure the levels coming through the wall. Hopefully you don't have one! Ian _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of christina2005r Sent: 12 February 2006 05:22 Subject: Re: EMF > >> > >>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am > > getting > >>> lost in all the information and don't know where to start. > >>> > >>> I dont understand all the " grounding " wires and shields and etc! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I use extension cords to keep the computer as far away as possible. And I have installed shelving to keep the computers off the floor to avoid ground currents. I found a monitor that does not give off any magnetic fields except for the transfomer on the end of the cord which I also keep as far away as possible and off the floor. I have both a glare screen and another grounded screen from lessemf.com. The computer was one of the things that was hurting me the most. Now I can use it for as long as I want with no problem. Had to also get rid of the projection screen TV and invest in smaller tv's. I live in a mobile home and don't know if the aluminum was the problem but I have put up velostat to block the microwaves. It works best if you also put up magnetic material cloth that can be purchased at walmart in the fabric section. It is called metallic cloth and is 51 percent metallic. You ground the cloth and put it up over the velostat. You put it on the walls and ceiling. This has helped me quite a bit. I also have installed stetzer filters. I also have a quantum pro harmonizer. All the things add up and if you do enough things it seems to make a big difference. I do a lot more stuff than this. But this is what I'm thinking of now. Doing the salt/vitamin c regimen that is talked about in the lyme strategies group on is supposed to help quite a bit with the brain fog if that is also your problem. I've been doing this as well and it helps also. They think it kills bacteria. I don't know what it does but it helps . Re: EMF > >> > >>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am > > getting > >>> lost in all the information and don't know where to start. > >>> > >>> I dont understand all the " grounding " wires and shields and etc! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 , Here is an email address for Keen ck1@... I have had mixed results with my faraday cage a couple of years ago when I lived next door to the towers. It sounds like most of your problems come from over exposure to cell phones and computer screens. These are easy to remedy. Don't use a cell phone, or cordless phone; use a land line phone. Experiment with low radiation screens for your computer and limit your time on it. Back away as far as you can from it. Get a gauss meter that reads magnetic fields and get an RF meter than measures microwave/radio radiation. You don't need to spend more than $100 to get the basics covered. You need to know if you are working and sleeping in an environment with more than 2 mG. 0.00 is the goal. You want as low as possible RF radiation as possible so you need to know when things are lower and confirm it. As far as wiring, the gauss meter can tell you quickly if things are wired well or not. If anything is over 2 mg at hip level, you have a problem. Get all the appliances like heaters, power strips, fuse boxes, etc away from you because they will create magnetic fields far in excess of what is healthy. Stetzer Microsurge meter http://www.stetzerelectric.com/ can tell you how much excess radiation and appliance harmonics are flooding your electrical system. Stetzer Filters and power strips http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html can significantly reduce these emissions along the wiring. As far as radio/microwave protection, for 2 years, I slept with a fabric wrapped around my head that had silver lining in it and it helped me tremendously while I slept. I have a shielded hat that I wear frequently while shopping, in restaurants, etc, whenever I am around cell phones or wireless internet. Learn for yourself how this stuff works by using the meters and measuring how your body feels. There is much more and we'll get into that later. First thing is get some meters and cut down on exposure. I also believe that that body needs to be regenerated from being overexposed from radiation and chemicals from our food, air, carpet, walls, cars, computers, etc... Our body systems are taking a huge hit. I believe the first thing is to have all metal fillings removed by a protocol dentist, and then begin a slow and easy detox regimen while rebuilding the body with raw and healthy organic foods. Good luck and feel free to keep asking questions. On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:22 AM, christina2005r wrote: > >>>> >>>>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am >>> getting >>>>> lost in all the information and don't know where to start. >>>>> >>>>> I dont understand all the " grounding " wires and shields and etc! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Dear : I cover my head most of the time with either the silver lined scarf or cap I have or with aluminium, and it helps tremendously. After a really bad bout of extreme levels of EMF that were pushing a 100 on my TriField meter, I've had two good weeks that have been low. At the high level I can tell you that it affects your back and your spine. The pain began by my body cramping up all over, then my back was bad. It took five days to right after the emf level dropped. But it must be doing some long term damage that will probably come out later. Thank God I'm physically strong. It's not there all the time and an electrician assures me it's not my wiring. and it's affecting not only my health but the cost of my electricity, but it seems there's nothing I can do. I have a report stating the highest level recorded emf in my home was 94, and it's allowed to be 100 here before being deemed dangerous. But the thing is when they recorded it wasn't at it's highest. So God alone knows how high it reaches when it is. I've noted at these times that my entire floor is 'hot' and pushes past the top end of my meter throughout my home and seems to be worse on my landing upstairs. But there's nothing I can do. I have a combination here of technology that without shielding would be totally disabling, which to some extent I am now able to protect myself from, but there is nothing I've found that shields against the emf. If the Central Electricity come and it's not high what can I do? Maureen Re: Re: EMF > , > Here is an email address for Keen > ck1@... > > I have had mixed results with my faraday cage a couple of years ago > when I lived next door to the towers. > > It sounds like most of your problems come from over exposure to cell > phones and computer screens. These are easy to remedy. Don't use a cell > phone, or cordless phone; use a land line phone. > Experiment with low radiation screens for your computer and limit your > time on it. Back away as far as you can from it. > > Get a gauss meter that reads magnetic fields and get an RF meter than > measures microwave/radio radiation. You don't need to spend more than > $100 to get the basics covered. You need to know if you are working and > sleeping in an environment with more than 2 mG. 0.00 is the goal. > > You want as low as possible RF radiation as possible so you need to > know when things are lower and confirm it. > > As far as wiring, the gauss meter can tell you quickly if things are > wired well or not. If anything is over 2 mg at hip level, you have a > problem. Get all the appliances like heaters, power strips, fuse boxes, > etc away from you because they will create magnetic fields far in > excess of what is healthy. > Stetzer Microsurge meter > http://www.stetzerelectric.com/ > can tell you how much excess radiation and appliance harmonics are > flooding your electrical system. Stetzer Filters and power strips > http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html > can significantly reduce these emissions along the wiring. > > As far as radio/microwave protection, for 2 years, I slept with a > fabric wrapped around my head that had silver lining in it and it > helped me tremendously while I slept. I have a shielded hat that I wear > frequently while shopping, in restaurants, etc, whenever I am around > cell phones or wireless internet. > > Learn for yourself how this stuff works by using the meters and > measuring how your body feels. > There is much more and we'll get into that later. First thing is get > some meters and cut down on exposure. > > I also believe that that body needs to be regenerated from being > overexposed from radiation and chemicals from our food, air, carpet, > walls, cars, computers, etc... Our body systems are taking a huge hit. > I believe the first thing is to have all metal fillings removed by a > protocol dentist, and then begin a slow and easy detox regimen while > rebuilding the body with raw and healthy organic foods. > > Good luck and feel free to keep asking questions. > > > On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:22 AM, christina2005r wrote: > > > > >>>> > >>>>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to research it and am > >>> getting > >>>>> lost in all the information and don't know where to start. > >>>>> > >>>>> I dont understand all the " grounding " wires and shields and etc! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 --- McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote: > , > Here is an email address for Keen > ck1@... Thank you. > I have had mixed results with my faraday cage a > couple of years ago > when I lived next door to the towers. Mixed results? What was badd about it? > > It sounds like most of your problems come from over > exposure to cell > phones and computer screens. These are easy to > remedy. Don't use a cell > phone, or cordless phone; use a land line phone. Is an internet based broadband phone considered " landline? " Is there anything you can do when you have to use cell phones and can't avoid it? How much does " limiting " your exposure help? Would it help for me to turn my phone off as much as possible (I have it on and right next to me 24/7) I have one of those earphone thing but never use it (poor sound quality) and also because I heard that some of them actually make the radiation worse. Is that true? Is there anything I can do to the cell phone to make it stop harming me? I guess the only thing I could think of to reduce cell phone use would be to get calling cards and go to a pay phone? > Experiment with low radiation screens for your > computer and limit your > time on it. Back away as far as you can from it. Back away from it -- oay that was really doable and I just rearranged my cmoputer: Before it was 9 inches to edge of keyboard (now 11 - moved adjustable tray) plus an additional: 5 inches to computer base (now 11.5 - shoved it back) plus an additional 3 inches to front of monitor (now 4 inches, moved it back too) So, I was 17 inches from the monitor, now am 26.5. Is that significant. It is almost one an a half times! It seemed like it actually ehlped alot! Suprisingly!!! Also, I turned the power settings different - will this help? Changed " turn monitor off " to after 1 min Turn hard disks off to after 3 min go to standby - after 1 min (will that help?) Also would it help to turn off or unplug the printer? The scanner? Anything else " easy " to do as far as computers/cell phones? (Since that is a really big thing for me as far as amount of time on them.) What about other electircal things? Like space heaters, alarm clocks, hair dryer, microwave, cell phone charger, TENS unit (is this bad electrically? I use it for pain and muscle stuff) > > Get a gauss meter that reads magnetic fields and get > an RF meter than > measures microwave/radio radiation. Is the " trifield " meter okay to get for these uses??? You don't need > to spend more than > $100 to get the basics covered. You need to know if > you are working and > sleeping in an environment with more than 2 mG. 0.00 > is the goal. > > You want as low as possible RF radiation as possible > so you need to > know when things are lower and confirm it. > > As far as wiring, the gauss meter can tell you > quickly if things are > wired well or not. If anything is over 2 mg at hip > level, you have a > problem. Get all the appliances like heaters, power > strips, fuse boxes, > etc away from you because they will create magnetic > fields far in > excess of what is healthy. > Stetzer Microsurge meter > http://www.stetzerelectric.com/ > can tell you how much excess radiation and appliance > harmonics are > flooding your electrical system. Stetzer Filters and > power strips > http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html > can significantly reduce these emissions along the > wiring. > > As far as radio/microwave protection, for 2 years, I > slept with a > fabric wrapped around my head that had silver lining > in it and it > helped me tremendously while I slept. I have a > shielded hat that I wear > frequently while shopping, in restaurants, etc, > whenever I am around > cell phones or wireless internet. What kind of fabric did you wrap around your head? Can you use one of those " silver blankets " that are sold for keeping warm in emergencies? Or aluminum foil? Or something else easily found in a store? Shielded hat - does that protect? I read something that it does (by the people selling it!) and also read another thing that any of that doesn't help because it is not " grounded " ....any info on that? Wireless internet?! I didn't realize that was a problem?! I have that at my house! Yikes. Also, would it help at all to wrap the cell phone or computer in aluminum foil? Or to wear some kind of " lap vest " - you know like the kind you wear at the dentist when having X-rays.? > > Learn for yourself how this stuff works by using the > meters and > measuring how your body feels. > There is much more and we'll get into that later. > First thing is get > some meters and cut down on exposure. > > I also believe that that body needs to be > regenerated from being > overexposed from radiation and chemicals from our > food, air, carpet, > walls, cars, computers, etc... Our body systems are > taking a huge hit. > I believe the first thing is to have all metal > fillings removed by a > protocol dentist, I am lucky in that I have never had any metal fillings. However, strangely, I do have very high levels of mercury. and then begin a slow and easy > detox regimen while > rebuilding the body with raw and healthy organic > foods. > > Good luck and feel free to keep asking questions. > Thank you for all your help. > > On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:22 AM, christina2005r wrote: > > > > >>>> > >>>>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to > research it and am > >>> getting > >>>>> lost in all the information and don't know > where to start. > >>>>> > >>>>> I dont understand all the " grounding " wires > and shields and etc! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 --- Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: > (From christina2005r): > > I am guessing the main culprit is both the typical > monitor work computer > (laptop). I use them combined for >12 hours daily > most days for work. Plus > the fluorescent lights at work. I am guessing also > just general " EMF > overload " because I use a cell > phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around a > lot of " gadgets " > unfortunately. > > > > Ugh .. 12 hours daily on a computer and 4 hours on a > cellphone? That sounds > a pretty high exposure to me. Oh no!!! What is " average " ? Is there anything I can do about it other than just trying to limit it? (It doesn't seem like there is " much " I can do as far as limiting it, I could try to do it a little like maybe cut cell phone use by an hour if I did stuff like use pay phones, etc. Computer use I don't know what I could do about it because I really havae to use it for my job. I do SOME personal stuff (like mostly health research)....I dont even email people I know " in real life " hardly ever...so it will be really hard to find anything to dramatically cut back! It was these sorts of > levels that caused the > original " classic " ES problems identified in Sweden > in the early 1990's, > where continuous high levels harmed strong healthy > people. (Many of the > cases since then show far, far lower exposure levels > damaging people whose > immune system has been weakened by major illness). > > Something worth bearing in mind - electromagnetic > radiation works on the > " inverse square law " . So, I think I posted in another post that I was able to move my computer back so it is about 1.5 times further away. So how would this affect the radiation? It wasn't twice as far to make it 25% of original radiation.....so what would it be? Also what is really the problem, the " monitror " , the actual box of the computer, the accessories like keyboard,etc or just ALL of the electral equipment If you get twice as close to a > source, the radiation > level doesn't just double, it quadruples. So > spending days a foot from a > TV/computer monitor or an inch from a mobile phone > is going to give vastly > higher exposure than a mast a mile away or the > general background levels in > a house. I would think that the Faraday cage > shielding at night is going to > give only a small reduction in exposure compared > with your daily workplace > exposure. Okay, thank for the input on this. It is good to know because it sounds like I wasn't realzing how big of a deal the computer and cell phone problem is!!! Any suggestions about what to do about it? I really don't know of any way I can reduce my computer time that dramatically. I suppose if I didn't do ANY personal stuff on computers ever, I could get it down from maybe 12 hours to 11? Cell phone I can PROBABLY cut back on a little (maybe from 4 to 2-3 hours) if I really work at it. SO.... what can I do about the computer/cell phone exposure problem? It seems like it is really being harmful? Is there something I can put on the computer to make it stop? On the cell phone? > > Symptoms like reaction to fluorescent lights and > cellphones, and doing > better when walking in the woods (trees and water > are great absorbers of > external radiation), sound like classic ES > developing. It is not just the > light from fluorescents, but the particular > frequencies they emit, that > affect many ES people; low energy light bulbs can do > the same. Personally I > would say, for anyone with or developing ES, one > minute on a > cellphone/mobile is too long. Yikes. So what do people DO about this....I wish I could just live in the 18th century with no electric stuff; but it is really hard to avoid these things. ***** What would be some easyily implemented things that I can do to reduce the harm of the computer and the cell phone? I was thinking of like things you " do " to the computer or cell phone - like put aluminum foil on it? And also things you " do " to yourself - like suggested to wear some kind of protective stuff??? ********** Once you have got the > symptoms, there seems > to be a huge " hysteresis " effect - you have to go > down to exposure levels a > tiny fraction of the original ones before things > start getting better. > > Also worth noting that cordless (DECT) phones give > off high microwave levels > from the base station continually. We have to > shield against our next door > neighbour's, as we can easily measure the levels > coming through the wall. > Hopefully you don't have one! Oops, yes, I do. I have instad of a land line, those vonage telephone thing throught the internet. I have one corded and one cordless hooked up to it. I only use it about an hour each day, but can easily change to using the corded one...and unplug/give up/etc the other phone. Thank you. I would have never known that. > > Ian > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 > Is an internet based broadband phone considered > " landline? " Oooh, you're in new territory here. I suppose that in a way, if the phone has a cord (not wireless), then it could be considered a " land line " . However, there may be some other issues here with the digitization of the signal that may make a broadband phone worse than an old-fashioned analog phone. > Is there anything you can do when you have to use cell > phones and can't avoid it? Sometimes you can apply something to the phone (e.g, a special sticker or bead, etc.), or wear a pendant that would make a cellphone less bothersome. But you may have to try several options before finding something satisfactory. > Would it help for me to turn my > phone off as much as possible Yes, it would, because when it's turned on, I believe it's still occasionally communicating with a cellphone tower. > I have one of those earphone thing > but never use it (poor sound quality) and also because > I heard that some of them actually make the radiation > worse. Is that true? I would base your opinion on which method makes you feel worse. > So, I was 17 inches from the monitor, now am 26.5. Is > that significant. It is almost one an a half times! It > seemed like it actually ehlped alot! Suprisingly!!! Yes, that should indeed help. You may also want to (if possible) move the computer even further away, and buy longer cords for the keyboard and monitor. Also, if you have a cathode ray tube monitor, you may want to experiment with lower resolutions and lower refresh rates. I find that 800x600 resolution is easier to tolerate than 1024x768, and also that 75khz refresh is easier to tolerate than 85khz. If you are using a flat LCD monitor, then I don't this will help. > Also, I turned the power settings different - will > this help? > > Changed " turn monitor off " to after 1 min > Turn hard disks off to after 3 min > go to standby - after 1 min > > (will that help?) That will help if you're just sitting next to the monitor and not using it. However, if you are actually using the computer, then you're going to have to have it turned on! (you could also manually put the computer to sleep if you're not using it) > Also would it help to turn off or unplug the printer? > The scanner? I doubt it, but it might. It's worth a try. > What about other electircal things? Like space > heaters, alarm clocks, hair dryer, microwave, cell > phone charger, You should be most concerned about things you spend a lot of time nearby. Like an alarm clock which your near 8 hours/day. I'd keep that 3 feet away from you. > Wireless internet?! I didn't realize that was a > problem?! I have that at my house! Yikes. That could be a big problem. You should get rid of anything wireless in your house. This won't protect you from your neighbor's wireless stuff, but it will still help. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 > > Ugh .. 12 hours daily on a computer and 4 hours on a > > cellphone? That sounds a pretty high exposure to me. > > Oh no!!! What is " average " ? I've read stuff that indicates that anyone who spends more than 2 hours on a computer is asking for trouble. Of course, there are people like you and me that spend much more time than this every day. > Is there anything I can > do about it other than just trying to limit it? Heh, well I think we've already given you enough suggestions to keep you busy for a while... :-) You're just going to have try some stuff and see how they work for you. Like I said before, I was able to significantly increase my computer tolerance by doing various things (I don't really need to use a cellphone, so I never experimented with this) > I do SOME personal stuff (like mostly health > research).... Certainly for health research, you can print the stuff out and then read the printouts far from the computer. That will limit your EMF exposure compared to reading things onscreen. > So, I think I posted in another post that I was able > to move my computer back so it is about 1.5 times > further away. So how would this affect the radiation? > It wasn't twice as far to make it 25% of original > radiation.....so what would it be? Personally, I don't think you should worry too much about about the exact amount of radiation you're being exposed to. Instead, pay attention to how you *feel*, and how long you can tolerate being in that environment before having to get away from it. > Also what is really the problem, the " monitor " , the > actual box of the computer, the accessories like > keyboard,etc or just ALL of the electral equipment For me, my problems were mostly from computer monitors, computer (CPU) boxes, TV sets, cellphones, and florescent lights (including the new spiral energy efficient lights). I don't think you need to concern yourself with *all* appliances, because most of them you spend very little time next to, and they don't put out a lot of high frequencies. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Is there anyway you can work from home where you can really do some stuff you can't at somebody else's work environment? RE: Re: EMF --- Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: > (From christina2005r): > > I am guessing the main culprit is both the typical > monitor work computer > (laptop). I use them combined for >12 hours daily > most days for work. Plus > the fluorescent lights at work. I am guessing also > just general " EMF > overload " because I use a cell > phone >4 hours daily, plus just I think am around a > lot of " gadgets " > unfortunately. > > > > Ugh .. 12 hours daily on a computer and 4 hours on a > cellphone? That sounds > a pretty high exposure to me. Oh no!!! What is " average " ? Is there anything I can do about it other than just trying to limit it? (It doesn't seem like there is " much " I can do as far as limiting it, I could try to do it a little like maybe cut cell phone use by an hour if I did stuff like use pay phones, etc. Computer use I don't know what I could do about it because I really havae to use it for my job. I do SOME personal stuff (like mostly health research)....I dont even email people I know " in real life " hardly ever...so it will be really hard to find anything to dramatically cut back! It was these sorts of > levels that caused the > original " classic " ES problems identified in Sweden > in the early 1990's, > where continuous high levels harmed strong healthy > people. (Many of the > cases since then show far, far lower exposure levels > damaging people whose > immune system has been weakened by major illness). > > Something worth bearing in mind - electromagnetic > radiation works on the > " inverse square law " . So, I think I posted in another post that I was able to move my computer back so it is about 1.5 times further away. So how would this affect the radiation? It wasn't twice as far to make it 25% of original radiation.....so what would it be? Also what is really the problem, the " monitror " , the actual box of the computer, the accessories like keyboard,etc or just ALL of the electral equipment If you get twice as close to a > source, the radiation > level doesn't just double, it quadruples. So > spending days a foot from a > TV/computer monitor or an inch from a mobile phone > is going to give vastly > higher exposure than a mast a mile away or the > general background levels in > a house. I would think that the Faraday cage > shielding at night is going to > give only a small reduction in exposure compared > with your daily workplace > exposure. Okay, thank for the input on this. It is good to know because it sounds like I wasn't realzing how big of a deal the computer and cell phone problem is!!! Any suggestions about what to do about it? I really don't know of any way I can reduce my computer time that dramatically. I suppose if I didn't do ANY personal stuff on computers ever, I could get it down from maybe 12 hours to 11? Cell phone I can PROBABLY cut back on a little (maybe from 4 to 2-3 hours) if I really work at it. SO.... what can I do about the computer/cell phone exposure problem? It seems like it is really being harmful? Is there something I can put on the computer to make it stop? On the cell phone? > > Symptoms like reaction to fluorescent lights and > cellphones, and doing > better when walking in the woods (trees and water > are great absorbers of > external radiation), sound like classic ES > developing. It is not just the > light from fluorescents, but the particular > frequencies they emit, that > affect many ES people; low energy light bulbs can do > the same. Personally I > would say, for anyone with or developing ES, one > minute on a > cellphone/mobile is too long. Yikes. So what do people DO about this....I wish I could just live in the 18th century with no electric stuff; but it is really hard to avoid these things. ***** What would be some easyily implemented things that I can do to reduce the harm of the computer and the cell phone? I was thinking of like things you " do " to the computer or cell phone - like put aluminum foil on it? And also things you " do " to yourself - like suggested to wear some kind of protective stuff??? ********** Once you have got the > symptoms, there seems > to be a huge " hysteresis " effect - you have to go > down to exposure levels a > tiny fraction of the original ones before things > start getting better. > > Also worth noting that cordless (DECT) phones give > off high microwave levels > from the base station continually. We have to > shield against our next door > neighbour's, as we can easily measure the levels > coming through the wall. > Hopefully you don't have one! Oops, yes, I do. I have instad of a land line, those vonage telephone thing throught the internet. I have one corded and one cordless hooked up to it. I only use it about an hour each day, but can easily change to using the corded one...and unplug/give up/etc the other phone. Thank you. I would have never known that. > > Ian > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Hi, , I do not react to cell phones when they are turned off. Someone here suggested I use a lead lined bag to keep my cell phone in while charging it, as it bothered me while I was charging it. I have not tried that yet. (Instead, I charge my phone in an unused room on the far side of the house.) However, I still plan to try the lead lined bag when I locate one. (They are used to protect camera film.) Would a lined hat work, like mentioned he used, for calling on the cell phone??? Would wearing a hat or " apron " type garment made of shielding fabric lining help at work??? Just a question, as I only have ES with cell phone use. Also, I used to have my computer monitor 6 feet away and used a remote keyboard. I could see the monitor well for most purposes and it was close enough to read, if I manipulated the display settings. I do not have ES symptoms from my computer, so I don't know if that would help you or not; I had this setup due to being bed-bound from illness. I now use a laptop, but now I am only online about an hour or two/day, so I do not have much exposure, anyway. My best to you (and welcome!), Diane R <christina2005r@...> wrote: --- McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote: > , > Here is an email address for Keen > ck1@... Thank you. > I have had mixed results with my faraday cage a > couple of years ago > when I lived next door to the towers. Mixed results? What was badd about it? > > It sounds like most of your problems come from over > exposure to cell > phones and computer screens. These are easy to > remedy. Don't use a cell > phone, or cordless phone; use a land line phone. Is an internet based broadband phone considered " landline? " Is there anything you can do when you have to use cell phones and can't avoid it? How much does " limiting " your exposure help? Would it help for me to turn my phone off as much as possible (I have it on and right next to me 24/7) I have one of those earphone thing but never use it (poor sound quality) and also because I heard that some of them actually make the radiation worse. Is that true? Is there anything I can do to the cell phone to make it stop harming me? I guess the only thing I could think of to reduce cell phone use would be to get calling cards and go to a pay phone? > Experiment with low radiation screens for your > computer and limit your > time on it. Back away as far as you can from it. Back away from it -- oay that was really doable and I just rearranged my cmoputer: Before it was 9 inches to edge of keyboard (now 11 - moved adjustable tray) plus an additional: 5 inches to computer base (now 11.5 - shoved it back) plus an additional 3 inches to front of monitor (now 4 inches, moved it back too) So, I was 17 inches from the monitor, now am 26.5. Is that significant. It is almost one an a half times! It seemed like it actually ehlped alot! Suprisingly!!! Also, I turned the power settings different - will this help? Changed " turn monitor off " to after 1 min Turn hard disks off to after 3 min go to standby - after 1 min (will that help?) Also would it help to turn off or unplug the printer? The scanner? Anything else " easy " to do as far as computers/cell phones? (Since that is a really big thing for me as far as amount of time on them.) What about other electircal things? Like space heaters, alarm clocks, hair dryer, microwave, cell phone charger, TENS unit (is this bad electrically? I use it for pain and muscle stuff) > > Get a gauss meter that reads magnetic fields and get > an RF meter than > measures microwave/radio radiation. Is the " trifield " meter okay to get for these uses??? You don't need > to spend more than > $100 to get the basics covered. You need to know if > you are working and > sleeping in an environment with more than 2 mG. 0.00 > is the goal. > > You want as low as possible RF radiation as possible > so you need to > know when things are lower and confirm it. > > As far as wiring, the gauss meter can tell you > quickly if things are > wired well or not. If anything is over 2 mg at hip > level, you have a > problem. Get all the appliances like heaters, power > strips, fuse boxes, > etc away from you because they will create magnetic > fields far in > excess of what is healthy. > Stetzer Microsurge meter > http://www.stetzerelectric.com/ > can tell you how much excess radiation and appliance > harmonics are > flooding your electrical system. Stetzer Filters and > power strips > http://www.quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html > can significantly reduce these emissions along the > wiring. > > As far as radio/microwave protection, for 2 years, I > slept with a > fabric wrapped around my head that had silver lining > in it and it > helped me tremendously while I slept. I have a > shielded hat that I wear > frequently while shopping, in restaurants, etc, > whenever I am around > cell phones or wireless internet. What kind of fabric did you wrap around your head? Can you use one of those " silver blankets " that are sold for keeping warm in emergencies? Or aluminum foil? Or something else easily found in a store? Shielded hat - does that protect? I read something that it does (by the people selling it!) and also read another thing that any of that doesn't help because it is not " grounded " ....any info on that? Wireless internet?! I didn't realize that was a problem?! I have that at my house! Yikes. Also, would it help at all to wrap the cell phone or computer in aluminum foil? Or to wear some kind of " lap vest " - you know like the kind you wear at the dentist when having X-rays.? > > Learn for yourself how this stuff works by using the > meters and > measuring how your body feels. > There is much more and we'll get into that later. > First thing is get > some meters and cut down on exposure. > > I also believe that that body needs to be > regenerated from being > overexposed from radiation and chemicals from our > food, air, carpet, > walls, cars, computers, etc... Our body systems are > taking a huge hit. > I believe the first thing is to have all metal > fillings removed by a > protocol dentist, I am lucky in that I have never had any metal fillings. However, strangely, I do have very high levels of mercury. and then begin a slow and easy > detox regimen while > rebuilding the body with raw and healthy organic > foods. > > Good luck and feel free to keep asking questions. > Thank you for all your help. > > On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:22 AM, christina2005r wrote: > > > > >>>> > >>>>> What do you do to reduce EMF? I am trying to > research it and am > >>> getting > >>>>> lost in all the information and don't know > where to start. > >>>>> > >>>>> I dont understand all the " grounding " wires > and shields and etc! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 --- Marc <marc@...> wrote: > > Also, years ago I was given one of those > " pendants " from > > ToolsForWellness that is supposed to reduce EMF. > Is that really > > effective? > > Which one did you try? (Tools for Wellness sells > lots of pendants) http://www.toolsforwellness.com/eb007.html# That's what mine looks like. Sorry it took me a while to find the link. Any ideas on whether this is effective? It seems to help, but seems like not " enough " . I wear it pretty much all the time (not in the shower) and once in a while take it off. Also I try to hang it in the reaview mirror of the car during the daylight once a month to " recharge " it. As is uggested to do. Does anyone know if this is effecitve? It says " by hanging it in a window " __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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