Guest guest Posted October 2, 1999 Report Share Posted October 2, 1999 Hi Tyra,<br>I was reading your post and I noticed that you said that the pill isn't good for people that have hypothyroidism. Can you elaborate on that? This is the first time I have heard about it. My doctor never mentioned this. I really need to switch my doctor. <br>Hi Lily,<br>Welcome to the club. Even though my husband and I are waiting until I finish Graduate school before we have children this issue of conceiving concerns me a great deal too.I am on the pill for irregular periods but I am wondering if when I go off the pill to try to get pregnant I will have problems. Well if you find any useful info please pass it along. Thanks.<br>Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 1999 Report Share Posted October 2, 1999 I'll have to look for the book that explains about the birth control pill and hypothyroidism. Once I find it I'll post the information.<br><br>Tyra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 1999 Report Share Posted October 3, 1999 Thanks Tyra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 <<Does anyone know where the doctor talks about The Pill and how it fits (or doesn't) into the diet?>> Dr. D'Adamo has specifically stated that O's should not be on the pill. Based on this, after having already been on the diet for three years I decided to take the plunge and go off the pill myself. Doing this revealed extreme hormonal imbalances that had been covered up by taking the pill all those years - imbalances that I'm STILL trying to resolve over two years later. In retrospect, I wish I had gone off long before so that I could truly see what my body was going through. I tried searching www.dadamo.com for a specific reference but there's too much to sift through and I don't have enough time at the moment. I'm sure and the other " old timers " can back me up on this one, though. Dianne in LA O+ non-secretor and former Pill user Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 The following is from www.dadamo.com, a previous question to Dr. D about Type O and Polycystic Ovaries. " -The basic answer to your question is that if you don't suffer or have a history of blood clotting disorders, birth control pills can be used even by type O women, especially the new, low estrogen types. " Hope this gives you a start. Including foods with Vitamin K would probably be helpful to offset any blood thinning problems. -- In , " Belinda " <Hestia@t...> wrote: > Does anyone know where the doctor talks about The Pill and how it > fits (or doesn't) into the diet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 It is an avoid for Os. Blood thinning issue. ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com Birth Control Pill Does anyone know where the doctor talks about The Pill and how it fits (or doesn't) into the diet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Thanks. My doctor just put me on them because she's hoping that I will do okay on it and can then go three months without a cycle. Trying to work on the anemia problem. It is one of the low estrogen kinds. Re: Birth Control Pill > The following is from www.dadamo.com, a previous question to Dr. D > about Type O and Polycystic Ovaries. > > " -The basic answer to your question is that if you don't suffer or > have a history of blood clotting disorders, birth control pills can > be used even by type O women, especially the new, low estrogen types. " > > Hope this gives you a start. Including foods with Vitamin K would > probably be helpful to offset any blood thinning problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 If you find you can't tolerate the pill, the beef should help. Aerobic exercise reduces menstrual flow for me, more motivation to exercise than just about anything else. A daily vitamin with iron would also help, just monitor your bloodwork, too much iron can be bad...free radical/oxidative damage, etc. > Thanks. My doctor just put me on them because she's hoping that > I will do okay on it and can then go three months without a > cycle. Trying to work on the anemia problem. It is one of the > low estrogen kinds. > > Re: Birth Control Pill > > > > The following is from www.dadamo.com, a previous question to > Dr. D > > about Type O and Polycystic Ovaries. > > > > " -The basic answer to your question is that if you don't suffer > or > > have a history of blood clotting disorders, birth control pills > can > > be used even by type O women, especially the new, low estrogen > types. " > > > > Hope this gives you a start. Including foods with Vitamin K > would > > probably be helpful to offset any blood thinning problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 I've been taking a multi vitamin and an iron supplement. The funny thing, the diet is actually what's been causing my problem. I was never " regular " . I'd skip months at least twice a year and had at least 35 days between. After a couple months on the diet, I've been very regular. Clockwork every 28 days. So my body hasn't had the time to recover like it used to. So now the issue is really how to stop the heavy flow. > If you find you can't tolerate the pill, the beef should help. > Aerobic exercise reduces menstrual flow for me, more motivation to > exercise than just about anything else. A daily vitamin with iron > would also help, just monitor your bloodwork, too much iron can be > bad...free radical/oxidative damage, etc. > > Thanks. My doctor just put me on them because she's hoping that > > I will do okay on it and can then go three months without a > > cycle. Trying to work on the anemia problem. It is one of the > > low estrogen kinds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 As far as the heavy flow - I'd give it a few months to have your body get rid of toxins and see if the flow normalizes. ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com Re: Re: Birth Control Pill I've been taking a multi vitamin and an iron supplement. The funny thing, the diet is actually what's been causing my problem. I was never " regular " . I'd skip months at least twice a year and had at least 35 days between. After a couple months on the diet, I've been very regular. Clockwork every 28 days. So my body hasn't had the time to recover like it used to. So now the issue is really how to stop the heavy flow. > If you find you can't tolerate the pill, the beef should help. > Aerobic exercise reduces menstrual flow for me, more motivation to > exercise than just about anything else. A daily vitamin with iron > would also help, just monitor your bloodwork, too much iron can be > bad...free radical/oxidative damage, etc. > > Thanks. My doctor just put me on them because she's hoping that > > I will do okay on it and can then go three months without a > > cycle. Trying to work on the anemia problem. It is one of the > > low estrogen kinds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 I've been on the diet for 8 months now. And it's been this way since I started 30 years ago. And with no hemoglobin, there isn't any exercise. Especially at altitude. Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > > I've been taking a multi vitamin and an iron supplement. The > funny thing, the diet is actually what's been causing my problem. > I was never " regular " . I'd skip months at least twice a year and > had at least 35 days between. After a couple months on the diet, > I've been very regular. Clockwork every 28 days. So my body > hasn't had the time to recover like it used to. So now the issue > is really how to stop the heavy flow. > > > If you find you can't tolerate the pill, the beef should help. > > Aerobic exercise reduces menstrual flow for me, more motivation > to > > exercise than just about anything else. A daily vitamin with > iron > > would also help, just monitor your bloodwork, too much iron can > be > > bad...free radical/oxidative damage, etc. > > > Thanks. My doctor just put me on them because she's hoping > that > > > I will do okay on it and can then go three months without a > > > cycle. Trying to work on the anemia problem. It is one of > the > > > low estrogen kinds. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 OK. ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com Re: Re: Birth Control Pill I've been on the diet for 8 months now. And it's been this way since I started 30 years ago. And with no hemoglobin, there isn't any exercise. Especially at altitude. Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > > I've been taking a multi vitamin and an iron supplement. The > funny thing, the diet is actually what's been causing my problem. > I was never " regular " . I'd skip months at least twice a year and > had at least 35 days between. After a couple months on the diet, > I've been very regular. Clockwork every 28 days. So my body > hasn't had the time to recover like it used to. So now the issue > is really how to stop the heavy flow. > > > If you find you can't tolerate the pill, the beef should help. > > Aerobic exercise reduces menstrual flow for me, more motivation > to > > exercise than just about anything else. A daily vitamin with > iron > > would also help, just monitor your bloodwork, too much iron can > be > > bad...free radical/oxidative damage, etc. > > > Thanks. My doctor just put me on them because she's hoping > that > > > I will do okay on it and can then go three months without a > > > cycle. Trying to work on the anemia problem. It is one of > the > > > low estrogen kinds. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 > > So now the issue is really how to stop the heavy flow. Have you tried Raspberry Leaf Tea in the past? I'm pretty sure it's at least neutral for O's. It worked great for my bleeding from child birth. > > Trying to work on the anemia problem. Nobody here is going to want to hear this and I really have debated saying anything because the wrath it is likely to incurr, but years ago when I became a vegetarian, one of the first things that happened was that my anemia went away when I stopped eating beef. I have a completely unfounded, unproven theory that I am a sort of " iron diabetic " . (One sure way to bring that whole old horrible feeling back is to take an iron suppliment.) Anyway, aside from the spiritual and environmental views I have developed over the years, this is a major factor in my hesitance at reinstating beef into my diet, even when the rest of this diet is working so well for me. I was on a low-estrogen pill for 10 years (many years prior to BTD). I never realized how much it was screwing up my body until I went off it. The world is so much brighter and more alive without it. That was my experience. Everyone is different. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 There is a relationship between copper/zinc and estrogen/progesterone. There is a possibility that you are zinc/progesterone deficient. Try taking zinc (50 mg) B-6 (50 mg 2x a day) and magnesium (100-400 mg daily). Also Vit C (1000 2x a day). You could be copper toxic, avoid sources of it. The Raspberry leaf tea (3 cups a day or get the caps) is a very good idea, tones the reproductive tract and helps the anemia. Kathy linnsmama <mtnmusicmama@...> wrote: > > So now the issue is really how to stop the heavy flow. Have you tried Raspberry Leaf Tea in the past? I'm pretty sure it's at least neutral for O's. It worked great for my bleeding from child birth. > > Trying to work on the anemia problem. Nobody here is going to want to hear this and I really have debated saying anything because the wrath it is likely to incurr, but years ago when I became a vegetarian, one of the first things that happened was that my anemia went away when I stopped eating beef. I have a completely unfounded, unproven theory that I am a sort of " iron diabetic " . (One sure way to bring that whole old horrible feeling back is to take an iron suppliment.) Anyway, aside from the spiritual and environmental views I have developed over the years, this is a major factor in my hesitance at reinstating beef into my diet, even when the rest of this diet is working so well for me. I was on a low-estrogen pill for 10 years (many years prior to BTD). I never realized how much it was screwing up my body until I went off it. The world is so much brighter and more alive without it. That was my experience. Everyone is different. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 I've been drinking raspberry leaf tea, but not that much. Also I've only been taking Vit C (500 2x a day). So increasing those two would be easy. I'll look into the zinc and magnesium. One question, what are sources of copper? Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > There is a relationship between copper/zinc and estrogen/progesterone. > There is a possibility that you are zinc/progesterone deficient. > Try taking zinc (50 mg) B-6 (50 mg 2x a day) and magnesium (100-400 mg daily). > Also Vit C (1000 2x a day). You could be copper toxic, avoid sources of it. > The Raspberry leaf tea (3 cups a day or get the caps) is a very good idea, tones the reproductive tract and helps the anemia. > Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Don't forget the B-6. Copper::::highest sources Beef liver Cashews Mushrooms Beans(dried) WW flour Chicken(dark) Almonds Pecans Banana Belinda <Hestia@...> wrote: I've been drinking raspberry leaf tea, but not that much. Also I've only been taking Vit C (500 2x a day). So increasing those two would be easy. I'll look into the zinc and magnesium. One question, what are sources of copper? Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > There is a relationship between copper/zinc and estrogen/progesterone. > There is a possibility that you are zinc/progesterone deficient. > Try taking zinc (50 mg) B-6 (50 mg 2x a day) and magnesium (100-400 mg daily). > Also Vit C (1000 2x a day). You could be copper toxic, avoid sources of it. > The Raspberry leaf tea (3 cups a day or get the caps) is a very good idea, tones the reproductive tract and helps the anemia. > Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 It's not just the bananas Years of birth control pills and/or a zinc deficiency can cause the imbalance. Those foods are just ones you should keep to a minimum for awhile to see if it helps. Along with the supplements Kathy Belinda <Hestia@...> wrote: Well then that's not it. I eat, at most, 10 bananas in a month and haven't eaten the rest in many months. Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > Don't forget the B-6. > > Copper::::highest sources > Beef liver > Cashews > Mushrooms > Beans(dried) > WW flour > Chicken(dark) > Almonds > Pecans > Banana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Well then that's not it. I eat, at most, 10 bananas in a month and haven't eaten the rest in many months. Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > Don't forget the B-6. > > Copper::::highest sources > Beef liver > Cashews > Mushrooms > Beans(dried) > WW flour > Chicken(dark) > Almonds > Pecans > Banana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Since I just started taking the pill Tuesday - for the first time - it would have to be a zinc deficiency. Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > It's not just the bananas > > Years of birth control pills and/or a zinc deficiency can cause the imbalance. > Those foods are just ones you should keep to a minimum for awhile to see if it helps. > Along with the supplements > > Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 I thought you said you had taken the pill for years awhile back. Or was that someone elses comment? Belinda <Hestia@...> wrote: Since I just started taking the pill Tuesday - for the first time - it would have to be a zinc deficiency. Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > It's not just the bananas > > Years of birth control pills and/or a zinc deficiency can cause the imbalance. > Those foods are just ones you should keep to a minimum for awhile to see if it helps. > Along with the supplements > > Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 That was someone else. Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > I thought you said you had taken the pill for years awhile back. Or was that someone elses comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Sorry What was your situation again. I must have missed it while I was gone this week and just came in on the backside. Belinda <Hestia@...> wrote: That was someone else. Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > I thought you said you had taken the pill for years awhile back. Or was that someone elses comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 For those that have read all this . . . sorry. I was diagnosed as anemic at the beginning of December. I bleed heavily every month. To be specific, my hemoglobin was at 10.6 at the beginning of December. The low end acceptable at this altitude (I'm above 6K ft) is 12. Since hemoglobin is resposible for carrying oxygen around to the cells - the lack is making me very tired and the doc has curtailed all strenuous exercise. I'm thinking that a good bit of the reason why is because of the diet - see I was never regular skipping months at least twice a year AND at least 35 days between cycles. Since being on the BTD I've been regular - clockwork. Now the doctor let me go 4 month with just adding an iron supplement because she didn't want to screw up my diet. But it's just been getting worse. When I saw her on Tuesday my hemoglobin had dropped to 9.3 So she asked me to give her three months on a low estrogen pill and see what happens. If I don't have any adverse reactions, she'd like me to stay on the active pills straight so that I don't have a cycle for 3 months and see if that helps get my levels up where they should be. Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > Sorry > What was your situation again. I must have missed it while I was gone this week and just came in on the backside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 OK - thanks What comes to mind is Greens. Lots of greens and Chlorella as a good supplement. The greens build hemoglobin and improve clotting. Vit C - make sure you get it with lots of bioflavnoids included. Other than the tiredness - do you have any pre-menstrual or post-menstrual symptoms and problems? What other supplements do you take? Kathy Belinda <Hestia@...> wrote: For those that have read all this . . . sorry. I was diagnosed as anemic at the beginning of December. I bleed heavily every month. To be specific, my hemoglobin was at 10.6 at the beginning of December. The low end acceptable at this altitude (I'm above 6K ft) is 12. Since hemoglobin is resposible for carrying oxygen around to the cells - the lack is making me very tired and the doc has curtailed all strenuous exercise. I'm thinking that a good bit of the reason why is because of the diet - see I was never regular skipping months at least twice a year AND at least 35 days between cycles. Since being on the BTD I've been regular - clockwork. Now the doctor let me go 4 month with just adding an iron supplement because she didn't want to screw up my diet. But it's just been getting worse. When I saw her on Tuesday my hemoglobin had dropped to 9.3 So she asked me to give her three months on a low estrogen pill and see what happens. If I don't have any adverse reactions, she'd like me to stay on the active pills straight so that I don't have a cycle for 3 months and see if that helps get my levels up where they should be. Re: Re: Birth Control Pill > Sorry > What was your situation again. I must have missed it while I was gone this week and just came in on the backside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Sounds like the pill might be your best option right now. I take the pill myself for the same reason. I'm going to ask for Seasonale at my next check up. I understand it's even lower in hormones than the standard low estrogen pills and it's specifically made for a 3 mo. cycle. However, the most common problem with it is breakthrough bleeding. You might also look at the timing of taking your iron and eating iron rich foods. I know that vitamin C enhances absorption, but the phytates in foods like spinach block absorption. You might have to concentrate on eating your beef meals away from foods that interfere. > > > Thanks. My doctor just put me on them because she's hoping > that > > > I will do okay on it and can then go three months without a > > > cycle. Trying to work on the anemia problem. It is one of > the > > > low estrogen kinds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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