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I dunno' about your critters... but what we had sure was contagious.

I remember during the time when we knew something was wrong but

didn't know what it was, my hubby and I had a meeting with an

individual and we sat on either side of him. The whole time that he

was around us, he sneezed, kept rubbing his face and he scratched. I

hate it as I know that we somewhat infested him. I just hope that he

and his family weren't affected by it after he got home.

I have also " felt " them in alot of the places that you have mentioned

below. Fearing a re-infestation I quickly run to the car & spray

myself down... head staright home and do my protocol... So far so

good!

I think this is more wide spread than anyone cares to admit to. I can

go to various grocery stores and the Lice spray... Epsom salts...

Ammonia and even bleach are flying off the shelves pretty fast. Most

households I think are keeping it " hush hush " ... at least they are in

my area...

Just my humble opinion.

Hope you are doing ok ?

Trly

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family and they aren't bothered, I go to the library to use the

computer, try on clothes at the store, go to restaurants...If these

were that contagious there would be an epidemic by now.  It must be

something to do with my chemistry that they like.  I know we all

checked blood types once and there wasn't a pattern.  It must be

candida or something like that which attracts them.  Any thoughts?

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I cant believe that you are not being more responsible about

infecting people. Its like you are running an experiment to see if

you can. Even if you only infected one person, it is one too many. I

take every precaution that i can to protect others, some you cant

avoid, but if there is something i can do, then i do it. AND that

includes not trying on clothing at stores, not getting too close to

family members, and keeping my contact with the public to a minimum.

And if you think they are just attracted to your bloodtype, you have

to know that you arent the only person in the world with that blood

type. You will eventually run into someone that these critters like.

You know that this thing is devastating. How can you be so

careless????

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> something to do with my chemistry that they like.  I know we all

> checked blood types once and there wasn't a pattern.  It must be

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Easy now Holly,

We have to go to work and survive some how. I myself have definetely infested my workplace at one point. What do you suggest for people?

For the first few months I avoided visiting family and friends, but my wife didn't believe that I truly had a problem with mites after awhile and didn't want to avoid friends and family. She still thinks I have a psycological problem, but I know that is not true. Anyways, she has left me nearly a year ago.

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, I cant believe that you are not being more responsible about infecting people. Its like you are running an experiment to see if you can. Even if you only infected one person, it is one too many. I take every precaution that i can to protect others, some you cant avoid, but if there is something i can do, then i do it. AND that includes not trying on clothing at stores, not getting too close to family members, and keeping my contact with the public to a minimum. And if you think they are just attracted to your bloodtype, you have to know that you arent the only person in the world with that blood type. You will eventually run into someone that these critters like. You know that this thing is devastating. How can you be so careless????> >> > I can't believe these creatures are that contagious. I'm around my > family and they aren't bothered, I go to the library to use the > computer, try on clothes at the store, go to restaurants. ..If these > were that contagious there would be an epidemic by now. It must be > something to do with my chemistry that they

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This makes me apprehensive to try on clothing. i am scared to death of going any where where there a pigeons. I will not go to any shopping complex where pigeons land or land near as is. The other night my other half told me he got a fungus after trying on clothing from a dpt store. The world is scary.J.From: Holly <hollyjane11@...>Subject: Re: Contagious?bird mites Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 12:01 PM

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I cant believe that you are not being more responsible about

infecting people. Its like you are running an experiment to see if

you can. Even if you only infected one person, it is one too many. I

take every precaution that i can to protect others, some you cant

avoid, but if there is something i can do, then i do it. AND that

includes not trying on clothing at stores, not getting too close to

family members, and keeping my contact with the public to a minimum.

And if you think they are just attracted to your bloodtype, you have

to know that you arent the only person in the world with that blood

type. You will eventually run into someone that these critters like.

You know that this thing is devastating. How can you be so

careless????

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> family and they aren't bothered, I go to the library to use the

> computer, try on clothes at the store, go to restaurants. ..If these

> were that contagious there would be an epidemic by now. It must be

> something to do with my chemistry that they like. I know we all

> checked blood types once and there wasn't a pattern. It must be

> candida or something like that which attracts them. Any thoughts?

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Let's give up clothing and start a nudist colony. Less laundry and

worries...lol. I've been doing really well after starting a new

bathing program so one of my friends convinced me to come over for

dinner. I went and kept feeling crawlies pretty much the whole time,

all on my head. I thought, oh I'm just having a bad night, which I

hadn't had for weeks. It didn't come to me till the next day that her

house is buggy. She also has had the eye, nose , ear and hair

scratching and rubbing signs. I don't know if I brought them in

before I knew what I had or if she has just had them. I've asked her

several times if she thinks she has them and she repeatly has said

no. She does not feel them like I do. So the moral of the story is I

know I will have to be on guard forever. I will instantly go into

high protocol mode at the first hint of a crawlie. I think I will

always be in low protocol. I'm not going to let these bugs rule my

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Hahaha excellent idea rob, saunas and tea tree dips!

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> Let's give up clothing and start a nudist colony. Less laundry and

> worries...lol. I've been doing really well after starting a new

> bathing program so one of my friends convinced me to come over for

> dinner. I went and kept feeling crawlies pretty much the whole time,

> all on my head. I thought, oh I'm just having a bad night, which I

> hadn't had for weeks. It didn't come to me till the next day that her

> house is buggy. She also has had the eye, nose , ear and hair

> scratching and rubbing signs. I don't know if I brought them in

> before I knew what I had or if she has just had them. I've asked her

> several times if she thinks she has them and she repeatly has said

> no. She does not feel them like I do. So the moral of the story is I

> know I will have to be on guard forever. I will instantly go into

> high protocol mode at the first hint of a crawlie. I think I will

> always be in low protocol. I'm not going to let these bugs rule my

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i wonder if there are some people that have them and just dont feel

them. I see my husband brushing " things " off of his face, suddenly

scratching, and getting itchy " things " out of his nose, yet he still

insists that he is not infected.

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I don't blame you. I am still staying away from the pigeons though. I feel like going any where infested with birds.

J.

From: <bobbyboyd99@...>Subject: Re: Contagious?bird mites Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 5:26 AM

Let's give up clothing and start a nudist colony. Less laundry and worries...lol. I've been doing really well after starting a new bathing program so one of my friends convinced me to come over for dinner. I went and kept feeling crawlies pretty much the whole time, all on my head. I thought, oh I'm just having a bad night, which I hadn't had for weeks. It didn't come to me till the next day that her house is buggy. She also has had the eye, nose , ear and hair scratching and rubbing signs. I don't know if I brought them in before I knew what I had or if she has just had them. I've asked her several times if she thinks she has them and she repeatly has said no. She does not feel them like I do. So the moral of the story is I know I will have to be on guard forever. I will instantly go into high protocol mode at the first hint of a crawlie. I think I will always be in low protocol. I'm not going to

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I AM READY, ! nudists R us...lol. I find it odd that you can watch a person scratching, rubbing their eyes, and carrying on but they swear they dont "feel" anything or my favorite, "I'm not itching" Ok, then why are you scratching so much?! My hubby swears he doesnt feel a damn thing but I tell ya, I see him constantly scratching and all. he just wont admit it so of course, those bugs make a bee line for me. I am just about to run away....as soon as ADAM figures out how we can have our TEA TREE VILLAGE...lol. HMMM....Nudists R us in a TEA TREE VILLAGE! HA I havent been to anyones home since I realized what was eating me alive. I just cant bear the idea of giving this living hell to someone else. > > > > > >> > > > > > I can't believe these creatures are that contagious. I'm > around > > > > my > > > > > family and they aren't bothered, I go to the library to use the > > > > > computer, try on clothes at the store, go to restaurants. ..If > these > > > > > were that contagious there would be an epidemic by now. It must > be > > > > > something to do with my chemistry that they like. I know we all > > > > > checked blood types once and there wasn't a pattern. It must be > > > > > candida or something like that which attracts them. Any thoughts?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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ME TOO HOLLY...I SWEAR MY HUBBY DOES IT SOOO MUCH I TOLD HIM I AM GONNA TAPE HIM WHILE HE'S SLEEPIN SO HE CAN SEE...IT PISSES ME OFF WHEN HE STANDS OVER ME AND MOVES HIS CAP TO THE SIDE TO SCRATCH HIS HEAD LIKE A DOG KICKING FLEAS. I SWEAR MY HEAD SPINS AROUND A COUPLE OF TIMES CAUSE I HAVE REPEATEDLY TOLD HIM NOT TO DO THAT BY ME. AND THEN I CAN JUST FEEL WHATEVER IS IN THE AIR ATTACH ITSELF TO ME. uHHHH....i THINK THERE ARE JUST SOME WHO WILL NEVER ADMIT IT...NO MATTER WHAT....THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH LIKE ADMITING YOU AND i WERENT MAKING IT ALL UP....IT WOULD BE SO REAL THEN! SORRY, HAD TO VENT A LIL' THANKS CHASITY> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I can't believe these creatures are that contagious. I'm > > around > > > > > > my > > > > > > > family and they aren't bothered, I go to the library to use the > > > > > > > computer, try on clothes at the store, go to restaurants. ..If > > these > > > > > > > were that contagious there would be an epidemic by now. It > must > > be > > > > > > > something to do with my chemistry that they like. I know we > all > > > > > > > checked blood types once and there wasn't a pattern. It must > be > > > > > > > candida or something like that which attracts them. Any > thoughts?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> > >

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I feel the same way. I accidently gave it to a friend. She let me know ASAP. I got her to do the tea tree baths, launder and vaccum like crazy, and take the OO. This week she says the crawling is gone. I told her to keep it up for a month more. Glad she cauth it at the start.

J.

From: itsjustmedammitgrl <dammitgrl2001@...>Subject: Re: Contagious?bird mites Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 11:06 AM

I AM READY, ! nudists R us...lol. I find it odd that you can watch a person scratching, rubbing their eyes, and carrying on but they swear they dont "feel" anything or my favorite, "I'm not itching" Ok, then why are you scratching so much?! My hubby swears he doesnt feel a damn thing but I tell ya, I see him constantly scratching and all. he just wont admit it so of course, those bugs make a bee line for me. I am just about to run away....as soon as ADAM figures out how we can have our TEA TREE VILLAGE...lol. HMMM....Nudists R us in a TEA TREE VILLAGE! HA I havent been to anyones home since I realized what was eating me alive. I just cant bear the idea of giving this living hell to someone else. > > > > > >> > > > > > I can't believe these creatures are that contagious. I'm > around > > > > my > > > > > family and they aren't

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Oh wow I was just watching my hubby in his sleep LAST NIGHT wishing

he could see himself! My hubbie says i have a spinny head too. I just

saw your other profile and we have more in common than you would

think ;) Youre beautiful and your kids are adorable.

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THANK YOU YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY ALSO, I KNOW THEY GOT IT FROM THEIR MAMA....YOUR KIDS LOOK SOOO SWEET. YES, I BELIEVE WE DO. OH YEAH, HI, HOLLY, I AM CHASITY, NICE TO MEET YOU! LOL> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > I can't believe these creatures are that contagious. I'm> > > > around> > > > >> > > > > my> > > > >> > > > > > family and they aren't bothered, I go to the library to use > the> > > > >> > > > > > computer, try on clothes at the store, go to > restaurants. ..If> > > > these> > > > >> > > > > > were that contagious there would be an epidemic by now. It> > > must> > > > be> > > > >> > > > > > something to do with my chemistry that they like. I know we> > > all> > > > >> > > > > > checked blood types once and there wasn't a pattern. It > must> > > be> > > > >> > > > > > candida or something like that which attracts them. Any> > > thoughts?> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > __________________________________________________> > > > >

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Do you have a video camera? Maybe you could get some video of him

scratching. I really believe some people don't realize that they are

scratching.

I have a good friend that I had been over to his house many times

before I knew what I had and his house does not seem to have the

problem, but they are in his car (I was being bitten, till I got him

to let me CO2 the vehicle). So, how does that work? They have to be

coming into the house with him, yet I don't feel them when I am over

there? The only thing thats different at his house is that it has one

of those ionic air purifiers (a expensive one). I remember reading

that some here on the site had used air purifiers before.

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I wonder if the ant traps would benefit you and her? I'm going out to

get some today myself...they are inexpensive and require no

maintenance, so I figure: why not?

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I got some ant traps. I got a bunch of th raid ones, and figured out

that the ones everyone were talking about were different, i was

dissappointed until we figured out that they were basically borax and

karo syrup. Save yourself even more money, and make your own :)

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Good idea, I'll buy her a 12 pak!

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And you as well,

We got it from somewhere. I got my critters, plural, from

1. 1979-94--Ex husband brought to the marriage what he described as a "little parasite" in his ears, which he had picked up in Viet Nam. He made them sound cute, I think they liked me better.

2. 1995-1997--Divorce house had had rats, had a basement. I cleaned up and sealed up the inside of the house but didn't think about the basement, where my dog liked to go to cool off and I didn't stop her (ignorant). She brought me a little gift I thought was poison ivy, the doc thought was "winter scabies" (it was summer, I never figured out where he got that), and which I still have on the back of my left hand. The only thing that will stop the itch there is a dangerous steroid gel called Clobetasol Propionate. Although the borax mix ( Doe's recipe, previously posted) does reduce the incidences of rabid itching. My current husband describes what happened when he sat on my sofa one day: "I put my hand on the seat and something, a bunch of somethings, swarmed up my arm." He would then have a bad night of itching and crawling, but only one night. He has gout. Coult it be the uric acid?

3. 1997--New coworker sat in my chair, at my keyboard, while I trained her. She described a nightmare existence that included hygiene rituals she hinted at but would not describe fully, except that she put vaseline on her eyelashes (ptiris pubis again) until she discovered Eye Scrub, and vaseline on her body until she discovered "Bump Stopper," an ingrown hair preventer (for after shaving). I believe she left me a little gift to show her appreciation, because as soon as she got her own computer, and I was back on mine, I started getting bitten off the floor.

4. 1997--We move across the hall and I get a fresh workspace. After a while the floor bites start again and were so painful and traumatic that I was crying in my workspace. I could not get anything done for getting innoculated meanly from the floor. My supervisor said, "But no one else is being bitten." A coworker said, "Wonder why it is just you." A friend said, "Could it be scabies?"

5. 1997--Back to the doc. I take a full round of ivermectin. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Still being bitten.

6. 1997--I take a clear as a bell specimen of a louse to the derm and he declares it dirt and he tells me he is closing his practice. I get a final bill and learn he is still operating and taking new patients.

7. Year?--Dad had a bad stroke and I spent the night in the hospital with him. The hospital was out of sleep chairs so brought one up from the basement. I was crawled on and bitten all night but had no other place to sit if I wanted to stay with my Dad. In retrospect, I should have gone to Walmart and bought my own folding chair.

8. Year?--My boss sends me to her "wonderful" derm who never even comes out of his office, just sends someone to tell me that he can't help me, to leave, no charge, don't come back. To this day I don't know what he looks like.

9. Year?--I discovered the safe2use bulletin board and found some solutions. I bought every over-the-counter lotion and salve and preparation and shampoo and serum and solution and powder and salt and I used them all, in every combination I could think of. I used hydrogen peroxide, white and cider vinegar, wine, olive oil, shortening, witch hazel, oatmeal soap, you name it, I used it, but I never stumbled onto borax + hydrogen peroxide. That's brilliant. Thanks to doe or whoever tumbled to that and shared it, because it is helping me.

10. Year?--I discovered Dustmite and sprayed my home, car, office. 8 weeks later I was finally able to control my car and work environments by vacuuming every 3 to 7 days, 2 days in a row if needed. I discovered what for me then and many years after was the "magic bullet" that reduced bites to a manageable level in the locations where I spent the most time.

11. 2008--8 months came and went since I sprayed Dustmite. One day it was like I never sprayed it. I was being innoculated all over again. Meanwhile I had been told not to vacuum, not to spray. I actually had to go to the union to be allowed to freaking vacuum. No one else, anywhere, was told not to vacuum. Ultimately, they bought me my OWN vacuum, for my use and my area only, as a kind of accommodation, I guess. I have told my supvsrs the deal but they basically said, until you have a doctor's diagnosis we can't hear you, and we don't believe you, and we won't take your advice to ensure others don't get it.

For all these reasons, I think it is transmissible. Here is what I do, or would like to do, to reduce the likelihood that I will infect someone else.

I cannot hug my loved ones. This is the hardest sacrifice of all.

I choose to shake hands only with mean people.

I try never to sit on upholstered furniture, such as at doctor's appointments.

I stopped attending my church because the seats were upholstered and common (bench seats).

I cannot get a professional haircut. That's ok, because I shave my head and wear wigs (soaked nightly in enzymes) anyway.

I cannot try on clothes or shoes. I have to guess whether something will fit me.

There are lots of sacrifices, but it is worth it, because I don't want anyone to suffer because of me.

katie

>> > Hello again everyone.> > I am sorry to bring up a rather lousy topic, but does anyone else> besides myself think that these things are probably somewhat contagious?> > Everywhere I have been over the past several months since I have had> these things has become infested. Two homes in addition to where the> infestation began have succumbed. Two educated adult businessmen are> now dealing with "The Big Secret" while they spray, dust, vacuum and> hire exterminator after exterminator on the sly. My ex tells me that he> has infested his office. He goes to work and scratches all day long. > he stays late to "work" after everyone else goes home... so he can hide> all of his ridiculous appearing OCD behavior- the frantic spraying,> dusting and vacuuming he does to his own office as well as to the entire> floor of his building!!> > Everytime I thought the infestation was over, somehow it reappeared and> impacted my environment. What a curse!> > I should be going to job interviews, looking for income and working> toward becoming a productive member of society again, but instead those> endeavors are on hold while I spray, dust and vacuum, wash and dry!!> > These men, (one a judge), are hiding and denying the problem to the> world. Tell me, does anyone else think that possible transmission is a> problem? If I ever get free of these nasty little things, I will never> feel safe again. White collar professionals are not above these> bloodsuckers, therefore the Hilton does not necessarily offer you a> clean room wherein one can, without fear, lay one's head. Are corporate> boardrooms, libraries or court rooms safe from these mites from hell? I> think not.> > I am now going to quarantine myself from society while I KILL these> things, if I can. I will pray, pray and pray some more.> > Psalm 18:2> The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in> whom I take refuge. He is my shield and the horn of my salvation, my> stronghold.> > I pray that you all have success in your war.> > God bless.>

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Wow this has been so hard for you. to suffer like this.You have to be such a strong woman to handle this like you have.My heart goes out to you! tommyFrom: livingwithcritters <livingwithcritters@...>Subject: Re:

Contagious?bird mites Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 5:36 AM

And you as well,

We got it from somewhere. I got my critters, plural, from

1. 1979-94--Ex husband brought to the marriage what he described as a "little parasite" in his ears, which he had picked up in Viet Nam. He made them sound cute, I think they liked me better.

2. 1995-1997--Divorce house had had rats, had a basement. I cleaned up and sealed up the inside of the house but didn't think about the basement, where my dog liked to go to cool off and I didn't stop her (ignorant). She brought me a little gift I thought was poison ivy, the doc thought was "winter scabies" (it was summer, I never figured out where he got that), and which I still have on the back of my left hand. The only thing that will stop the itch there is a dangerous steroid gel called Clobetasol Propionate. Although the borax mix ( Doe's recipe, previously posted) does reduce the incidences of rabid itching. My current husband describes what happened when he sat on my sofa one day: "I put my hand on the seat and something, a bunch of somethings, swarmed up my arm." He would then have a bad night of itching and crawling, but only one night. He has gout. Coult it be the uric acid?

3. 1997--New coworker sat in my chair, at my keyboard, while I trained her. She described a nightmare existence that included hygiene rituals she hinted at but would not describe fully, except that she put vaseline on her eyelashes (ptiris pubis again) until she discovered Eye Scrub, and vaseline on her body until she discovered "Bump Stopper," an ingrown hair preventer (for after shaving). I believe she left me a little gift to show her appreciation, because as soon as she got her own computer, and I was back on mine, I started getting bitten off the floor.

4. 1997--We move across the hall and I get a fresh workspace. After a while the floor bites start again and were so painful and traumatic that I was crying in my workspace. I could not get anything done for getting innoculated meanly from the floor. My supervisor said, "But no one else is being bitten." A coworker said, "Wonder why it is just you." A friend said, "Could it be scabies?"

5. 1997--Back to the doc. I take a full round of ivermectin. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Still being bitten.

6. 1997--I take a clear as a bell specimen of a louse to the derm and he declares it dirt and he tells me he is closing his practice. I get a final bill and learn he is still operating and taking new patients.

7. Year?--Dad had a bad stroke and I spent the night in the hospital with him. The hospital was out of sleep chairs so brought one up from the basement. I was crawled on and bitten all night but had no other place to sit if I wanted to stay with my Dad. In retrospect, I should have gone to Walmart and bought my own folding chair.

8. Year?--My boss sends me to her "wonderful" derm who never even comes out of his office, just sends someone to tell me that he can't help me, to leave, no charge, don't come back. To this day I don't know what he looks like.

9. Year?--I discovered the safe2use bulletin board and found some solutions. I bought every over-the-counter lotion and salve and preparation and shampoo and serum and solution and powder and salt and I used them all, in every combination I could think of. I used hydrogen peroxide, white and cider vinegar, wine, olive oil, shortening, witch hazel, oatmeal soap, you name it, I used it, but I never stumbled onto borax + hydrogen peroxide. That's brilliant. Thanks to doe or whoever tumbled to that and shared it, because it is helping me.

10. Year?--I discovered Dustmite and sprayed my home, car, office. 8 weeks later I was finally able to control my car and work environments by vacuuming every 3 to 7 days, 2 days in a row if needed. I discovered what for me then and many years after was the "magic bullet" that reduced bites to a manageable level in the locations where I spent the most time.

11. 2008--8 months came and went since I sprayed Dustmite. One day it was like I never sprayed it. I was being innoculated all over again. Meanwhile I had been told not to vacuum, not to spray. I actually had to go to the union to be allowed to freaking vacuum. No one else, anywhere, was told not to vacuum. Ultimately, they bought me my OWN vacuum, for my use and my area only, as a kind of accommodation, I guess. I have told my supvsrs the deal but they basically said, until you have a doctor's diagnosis we can't hear you, and we don't believe you, and we won't take your advice to ensure others don't get it.

For all these reasons, I think it is transmissible. Here is what I do, or would like to do, to reduce the likelihood that I will infect someone else.

I cannot hug my loved ones. This is the hardest sacrifice of all.

I choose to shake hands only with mean people.

I try never to sit on upholstered furniture, such as at doctor's appointments.

I stopped attending my church because the seats were upholstered and common (bench seats).

I cannot get a professional haircut. That's ok, because I shave my head and wear wigs (soaked nightly in enzymes) anyway.

I cannot try on clothes or shoes. I have to guess whether something will fit me.

There are lots of sacrifices, but it is worth it, because I don't want anyone to suffer because of me.

katie

>> > Hello again everyone.> > I am sorry to bring up a rather lousy topic, but does anyone else> besides myself think that these things are probably somewhat contagious?> > Everywhere I have been over the past several months since I have had> these things has become infested. Two homes in addition to where the> infestation began have succumbed. Two educated adult businessmen are> now dealing with "The Big Secret" while they spray, dust, vacuum and> hire exterminator after exterminator on the sly. My ex tells me that he> has infested his office. He goes to work and scratches all day long. > he stays late to "work" after everyone else goes home... so he can hide> all of his ridiculous appearing OCD behavior- the frantic spraying,> dusting and vacuuming he does to

his own office as well as to the entire> floor of his building!!> > Everytime I thought the infestation was over, somehow it reappeared and> impacted my environment. What a curse!> > I should be going to job interviews, looking for income and working> toward becoming a productive member of society again, but instead those> endeavors are on hold while I spray, dust and vacuum, wash and dry!!> > These men, (one a judge), are hiding and denying the problem to the> world. Tell me, does anyone else think that possible transmission is a> problem? If I ever get free of these nasty little things, I will never> feel safe again. White collar professionals are not above these> bloodsuckers, therefore the Hilton does not necessarily offer you a> clean room wherein one can, without fear, lay one's head. Are corporate> boardrooms, libraries or court rooms

safe from these mites from hell? I> think not.> > I am now going to quarantine myself from society while I KILL these> things, if I can. I will pray, pray and pray some more.> > Psalm 18:2> The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in> whom I take refuge. He is my shield and the horn of my salvation, my> stronghold.> > I pray that you all have success in your war.> > God bless.>

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Thanks for your story, . It's been a couple years of infestation for me. However, I've reached the point where I can effectively decontaminate myself, and don't get re-contaminated in my apartment too easily. The largest problem for me is getting re-contaminated from my workplace and from people who I have spread it to at work, etc. The strange thing about the people that I spread the mites to, is that they seem to be unaffected by the mites but continue to carry it and spread it back to me!

-requireshelp

From: tommy morrow <tommy02141@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 4:17:28 PMSubject: Re: Re: Contagious?

Wow this has been so hard for you. to suffer like this.You have to be such a strong woman to handle this like you have.My heart goes out to you! tommy

From: livingwithcritters <livingwithcritters@ gmail.com>Subject: Re: Contagious?bird mitesDate: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 5:36 AM

And you as well,

We got it from somewhere. I got my critters, plural, from

1. 1979-94--Ex husband brought to the marriage what he described as a "little parasite" in his ears, which he had picked up in Viet Nam. He made them sound cute, I think they liked me better.

2. 1995-1997--Divorce house had had rats, had a basement. I cleaned up and sealed up the inside of the house but didn't think about the basement, where my dog liked to go to cool off and I didn't stop her (ignorant). She brought me a little gift I thought was poison ivy, the doc thought was "winter scabies" (it was summer, I never figured out where he got that), and which I still have on the back of my left hand. The only thing that will stop the itch there is a dangerous steroid gel called Clobetasol Propionate. Although the borax mix ( Doe's recipe, previously posted) does reduce the incidences of rabid itching. My current husband describes what happened when he sat on my sofa one day: "I put my hand on the seat and something, a bunch of somethings, swarmed up my arm." He would then have a bad night of itching and crawling, but only one night. He has gout. Coult it be the uric acid?

3. 1997--New coworker sat in my chair, at my keyboard, while I trained her. She described a nightmare existence that included hygiene rituals she hinted at but would not describe fully, except that she put vaseline on her eyelashes (ptiris pubis again) until she discovered Eye Scrub, and vaseline on her body until she discovered "Bump Stopper," an ingrown hair preventer (for after shaving). I believe she left me a little gift to show her appreciation, because as soon as she got her own computer, and I was back on mine, I started getting bitten off the floor.

4. 1997--We move across the hall and I get a fresh workspace. After a while the floor bites start again and were so painful and traumatic that I was crying in my workspace. I could not get anything done for getting innoculated meanly from the floor. My supervisor said, "But no one else is being bitten." A coworker said, "Wonder why it is just you." A friend said, "Could it be scabies?"

5. 1997--Back to the doc. I take a full round of ivermectin. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Still being bitten.

6. 1997--I take a clear as a bell specimen of a louse to the derm and he declares it dirt and he tells me he is closing his practice. I get a final bill and learn he is still operating and taking new patients.

7. Year?--Dad had a bad stroke and I spent the night in the hospital with him. The hospital was out of sleep chairs so brought one up from the basement. I was crawled on and bitten all night but had no other place to sit if I wanted to stay with my Dad. In retrospect, I should have gone to Walmart and bought my own folding chair.

8. Year?--My boss sends me to her "wonderful" derm who never even comes out of his office, just sends someone to tell me that he can't help me, to leave, no charge, don't come back. To this day I don't know what he looks like.

9. Year?--I discovered the safe2use bulletin board and found some solutions. I bought every over-the-counter lotion and salve and preparation and shampoo and serum and solution and powder and salt and I used them all, in every combination I could think of. I used hydrogen peroxide, white and cider vinegar, wine, olive oil, shortening, witch hazel, oatmeal soap, you name it, I used it, but I never stumbled onto borax + hydrogen peroxide. That's brilliant. Thanks to doe or whoever tumbled to that and shared it, because it is helping me.

10. Year?--I discovered Dustmite and sprayed my home, car, office. 8 weeks later I was finally able to control my car and work environments by vacuuming every 3 to 7 days, 2 days in a row if needed. I discovered what for me then and many years after was the "magic bullet" that reduced bites to a manageable level in the locations where I spent the most time.

11. 2008--8 months came and went since I sprayed Dustmite. One day it was like I never sprayed it. I was being innoculated all over again. Meanwhile I had been told not to vacuum, not to spray. I actually had to go to the union to be allowed to freaking vacuum. No one else, anywhere, was told not to vacuum. Ultimately, they bought me my OWN vacuum, for my use and my area only, as a kind of accommodation, I guess. I have told my supvsrs the deal but they basically said, until you have a doctor's diagnosis we can't hear you, and we don't believe you, and we won't take your advice to ensure others don't get it.

For all these reasons, I think it is transmissible. Here is what I do, or would like to do, to reduce the likelihood that I will infect someone else.

I cannot hug my loved ones. This is the hardest sacrifice of all.

I choose to shake hands only with mean people.

I try never to sit on upholstered furniture, such as at doctor's appointments.

I stopped attending my church because the seats were upholstered and common (bench seats).

I cannot get a professional haircut. That's ok, because I shave my head and wear wigs (soaked nightly in enzymes) anyway.

I cannot try on clothes or shoes. I have to guess whether something will fit me.

There are lots of sacrifices, but it is worth it, because I don't want anyone to suffer because of me.

katie

>> > Hello again everyone.> > I am sorry to bring up a rather lousy topic, but does anyone else> besides myself think that these things are probably somewhat contagious?> > Everywhere I have been over the past several months since I have had> these things has become infested. Two homes in addition to where the> infestation began have succumbed. Two educated adult businessmen are> now dealing with "The Big Secret" while they spray, dust, vacuum and> hire exterminator after exterminator on the sly. My ex tells me that he> has infested his office. He goes to work and scratches all day long. > he stays late to "work" after everyone else goes home... so he can hide> all of his ridiculous appearing OCD behavior- the frantic spraying,> dusting and vacuuming he does to

his own office as well as to the entire> floor of his building!!> > Everytime I thought the infestation was over, somehow it reappeared and> impacted my environment. What a curse!> > I should be going to job interviews, looking for income and working> toward becoming a productive member of society again, but instead those> endeavors are on hold while I spray, dust and vacuum, wash and dry!!> > These men, (one a judge), are hiding and denying the problem to the> world. Tell me, does anyone else think that possible transmission is a> problem? If I ever get free of these nasty little things, I will never> feel safe again. White collar professionals are not above these> bloodsuckers, therefore the Hilton does not necessarily offer you a> clean room wherein one can, without fear, lay one's head. Are corporate> boardrooms, libraries or court rooms

safe from these mites from hell? I> think not.> > I am now going to quarantine myself from society while I KILL these> things, if I can. I will pray, pray and pray some more.> > Psalm 18:2> The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in> whom I take refuge. He is my shield and the horn of my salvation, my> stronghold.> > I pray that you all have success in your war.> > God bless.>

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Hi, , is it?

This is what Bee writes about Candida:

" You Cannot " Catch " Candida!

Candida overgrowth is not infectious or contagious. Therefore it is impossible

for anyone to " catch " candida overgrowth from someone else, the environment, or

from any other outside source. You cannot " catch " candida any more than you can

catch someone else's broken finger or their grey hair.

Candida changes from a friendly organism into an overgrowing, destructive

monster within each person's body, totally independent of anything or anyone

else. "

Source: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cfd1.php

Hope that helps!

>

> Is oral thrush contagious? Either to my boyfriend or to others you might just

peck (my mom, for instance?)

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