Tooth soap

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julie@... writes:

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After getting my mouth washed out with soap as a kid, I don' think you could

ever convince me that " tooth soap " made from real soap would go into my mouth.

YYYUUUCCCKKK!!! Marcia

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Best product I've found for your teeth is

microhydrin powder. No soapy taste either. Alvin

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> Hi folks,

>

> I purchased a jar of tooth soap awhile back and no

> one in our family can

> handle it! Tastes like we're eating soap. If

> this is something you

> use, we have a jar to resale. We've used less than

> 5% of it I'm sure. Paid

> $18 for the jar and the description was that it

> would easily last 3 months.

> I'll resell for $10 plus mailing costs if you're

> interested. Please email

> me off list.

>

> Thanks!

> Jean

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What is that? I've never heard of it.

Lynn

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> Best product I've found for your teeth is

> microhydrin powder. No soapy taste either. Alvin

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It's called MicroBrite (antioxidant tooth powder)

and is available from Royal BodyCare Inc. A 3.5 oz

bottle lasts me a whole year. Alvin

--- lhackbarth <lhackbarth@...> wrote:

> What is that? I've never heard of it.

> Lynn

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> > Best product I've found for your teeth is

> > microhydrin powder. No soapy taste either. Alvin

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dwarrickh wrote:

I have used this soap before, before the price went up. I have read that you could grate up a bar of Dial soap and get the same results. I thought the whole point was to go flouride free.

Whoever told you that was wrong. Dial is not soap. It is a bunch of

chemicals and the only way to make a liquid toothsoap (or any soap for

that matter) is to start from scratch. If you grate up a bar of store

"soap" and add water you will have slime in a few days. As me how I

know!!

$25 is too much for that. Not that much essential oil is used

in it (a drop or two at most per bottle) and how big a bottle is it

anyhow???? Sounds like someone is making some serious bucks on this.

Neysa

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The orignal tooth soap was not liquid. It was grated bar soap and

you just put a few shavings directly on your toothbrush. They still

sell the grated form on that website that was referenced

earlier.

Years ago when I purchased that soap I paid for a download

book about how Tooth Soap came about. In that article Dr. Gerard F.

Judd, PhD (who wrote Good Teeth, Birth to Death)was referenced as

saying that " he suggests Palmolive, Dial and even Motel 6 soap " in

his book.

I don't think it had anything to do with being " natural " , just

flouride and glycerin free. At least per Dr. Judd's recommendations.

Dr. Judd is still mentioned on the Perfect-Prescription Tooth Soap

site.

Of course the Tooth Soap came about as more of a natural soap that

tasted better but that company did not come up with the original idea

of using soap rather than toothpaste to clean teeth.

Dianne

> >

> Whoever told you that was wrong. Dial is not soap. It is a bunch of

> chemicals and the only way to make a liquid toothsoap (or any soap

for

> that matter) is to start from scratch. If you grate up a bar of

store

> " soap " and add water you will have slime in a few days. As me how I

know!!

>

> $25 is too much for that. Not *that* much essential oil is used in

it (a

> drop or two at most per bottle) and how big a bottle is it

anyhow????

> Sounds like someone is making some serious bucks on this.

>

> Neysa

>

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dwarrickh wrote:

> The orignal tooth soap was not liquid. It was grated bar soap and

> you just put a few shavings directly on your toothbrush. They still

> sell the grated form on that website that was referenced

> earlier.

>

> Years ago when I purchased that soap I paid for a download

> book about how Tooth Soap came about. In that article Dr. Gerard F.

> Judd, PhD (who wrote Good Teeth, Birth to Death)was referenced as

> saying that " he suggests Palmolive, Dial and even Motel 6 soap " in

> his book.

>

OK. I bow to a greater authority.

neysa

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You can use Dr. Bronner's too since it doesn't have added glycerin (both Tooth Soap and Dr. Bronner's have glycerin -- they just don't have *added* glycerin). I have brushed with Dr. Bronner's (before I got my Tooth Soap) but I did not like the taste.I know others who have grated up a bar of natural (handmade coconut oil based) soap and used that for tooth soap. That would work just as well. Depends on the taste I guess. The Tooth Soap is formulated to taste better. Most soap is made to smell good -- they're not thinking you'd ever put it in your mouth! :-)I like the taste of the Tooth Soap personally. Some of the time I use baking soda or just a little sea salt and water -- depends on my mood. I wouldn't recommend baking soda for every day -- I have heard it's too abrasive. But I like to use it here and there. Sea salt or even plain water is fine for every day.As far as the cost of Tooth Soap, yeah it's probably a bit overpriced. However, it lasts FOREVER. I have had this same jar for 5 months now and I still have tons of "shreds" to go. It will probably last me at least 9-10 months -- maybe even a year.Meanwhile, I've stopped coloring my hair, I use coconut oil for moisturizer and "sunscreen", use aloe plant for burns, use corn starch for deodorant, am *trying* to cut out shampoo (not so easy with hard water), and have stopped wearing makeup and do not use any other personal care products that I don't have to. I am concerned about the estrogenic and other toxic ingredients (plastics, soy oil, chemicals, petroleum derivatives, etc.). So I figure with what I'm saving in everything else, I can afford the Tooth Soap. Not to mention what I will save down the road in medical bills. :-)Ann MarieOn Apr 14, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Neysa Dormish wrote: $25 is too much for that. Not that much essential oil is used in it (a drop or two at most per bottle) and how big a bottle is it anyhow???? Sounds like someone is making some serious bucks on this.

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They have it on Amazon for 19.95 plus shipping.

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Re: Tooth Soap

dwarrickh wrote: I have used this soap before, before the price went up. I have read that you could grate up a bar of Dial soap and get the same results. I thought the whole point was to go flouride free. Whoever told you that was wrong. Dial is not soap. It is a bunch of chemicals and the only way to make a liquid toothsoap (or any soap for that matter) is to start from scratch. If you grate up a bar of store "soap" and add water you will have slime in a few days. As me how I know!! $25 is too much for that. Not that much essential oil is used in it (a drop or two at most per bottle) and how big a bottle is it anyhow???? Sounds like someone is making some serious bucks on this.Neysa

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--- " Jan T. " <jan.t@...> wrote:

> They have it on Amazon for 19.95 plus shipping.

>

> http://tinyurl.com/5xpszk

>

> FOUR FLAVORS!

>

> Jan

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This same brand is $19.95 at the grain and salt

society. This is the one I've been debating

ordereing. They now carry iodorol too.

There's also something called gengigel mouth and gum

gel for gingivitis

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So why don't we just scrape our toothbrush across our Dial and brush

away? :-P

Seriously, I thought of oil pulling and then using a regular soap to

brush (but not Dial). Would that work as well? What about plain old baking

soda?

What does tooth soap taste like anyway? It's too pricey for me right

now.

B

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Re: Re: Tooth Soap

> dwarrickh wrote:

>> The orignal tooth soap was not liquid. It was grated bar soap and

>> you just put a few shavings directly on your toothbrush. They still

>> sell the grated form on that website that was referenced

>> earlier.

>>

>> Years ago when I purchased that soap I paid for a download

>> book about how Tooth Soap came about. In that article Dr. Gerard F.

>> Judd, PhD (who wrote Good Teeth, Birth to Death)was referenced as

>> saying that " he suggests Palmolive, Dial and even Motel 6 soap " in

>> his book.

>>

> OK. I bow to a greater authority.

> neysa

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--- B <clb13135@...> wrote:

> So why don't we just scrape our toothbrush

> across our Dial and brush

> away? :-P

> Seriously, I thought of oil pulling and then

> using a regular soap to

> brush (but not Dial). Would that work as well? What

> about plain old baking

> soda?

> What does tooth soap taste like anyway? It's too

> pricey for me right

> now.

> B

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I actually have been using Safeguard for about a year

now. I have no cavities when I see the dentist. I

just ordered the tooth soap today though, as I'd like

to see more of an improvement in my gums.

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Apparently, many people do use plain soap.

I plan to make some soap from coconut oil and olive oil and try that. I am wondering about adding some iodine to the mix.

A researcher reports that when his team conducted experiments a few years ago, they found that any bar soaps that did not contain glycerine were acceptable. Glycerine makes it hard to rinse off.

The researcher ( Bradley) said "In fact, we were unable to find any product superior to plain Ivory bar soap."

also uses weak Hydrogen Peroxide solution twice in his tooth cleaning protocol, firstly along with Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda US) after the soap, and later as a standalone clear rinse.

Their original research took place after reading the dental hygiene work of a Dr Gerard Judd; this man recommended "the use of mono-sodium phosphate immediately after brushing with the bar soap. This step proved crucial to re-enameling of the teeth."

Many people do use plain Bicarb/baking soda, and I did myself until I read about a possible problem. I'm sorry I can't remember it clearly, but it was to do with the bicarb in the mouth interacting with a particular nerve (I think), and affecting one of the body processes, possibly to do with the heart. I sometimes use it along with other stuff, and sometimes alone, but not all the time and alone.

I think the trick is to use the plainest and purest soap you can.

Rowena

then using a regular soap to brush (but not Dial). Would that work as well? What about plain old baking soda?

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I've heard some people use some of the more

" natural " soaps. Real soap will probably work. So

will baking soda though, or neem bark. My favorite

is neem bark ... it does a lot of other nice things besides

clean your teeth (www.neemtreefarms.com has it).

It is very reasonably priced too.

The problem with a lot of soaps is that they have

very odd ingredients, and you aren't sure of their

source. Food manufacturers usually are a bit

more careful (though, unfortunately, not always).

How weird this gets came to light recently

in the whole gluten-pet-food debacle. Technically,

the wheat gluten in pet food SHOULD be the same

as in people food, but in practice, slipping a little

melamine into pet food happens easier than into

people food.

If you use " plain " soap I'd recommend getting some

simple organic soap, such as that made from coconut

oil, without fragrance, or from someone you know who

makes soap, who also knows where the ingredients came

from.

Since you don't actually swallow soap though, using

Dial isn't likely to kill you.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:55 PM, B <clb13135@...> wrote:

> So why don't we just scrape our toothbrush across our Dial and brush

> away? :-P

> Seriously, I thought of oil pulling and then using a regular soap to

> brush (but not Dial). Would that work as well? What about plain old baking

> soda?

> What does tooth soap taste like anyway? It's too pricey for me right

> now.

> B

> God Bless America!

> One nation under God

> Re: Re: Tooth Soap

>

>

> > dwarrickh wrote:

> >> The orignal tooth soap was not liquid. It was grated bar soap and

> >> you just put a few shavings directly on your toothbrush. They still

> >> sell the grated form on that website that was referenced

> >> earlier.

> >>

> >> Years ago when I purchased that soap I paid for a download

> >> book about how Tooth Soap came about. In that article Dr. Gerard F.

> >> Judd, PhD (who wrote Good Teeth, Birth to Death)was referenced as

> >> saying that " he suggests Palmolive, Dial and even Motel 6 soap " in

> >> his book.

> >>

> > OK. I bow to a greater authority.

> > neysa

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Rowena, What is mono-sodium phosphate?PamelaRowena <newses@...> wrote: Apparently, many people do use plain soap. I plan to make some soap from coconut oil and olive oil and try that. I am wondering about adding some iodine to the mix. A researcher reports that when his team

conducted experiments a few years ago, they found that any bar soaps that did not contain glycerine were acceptable. Glycerine makes it hard to rinse off. The researcher ( Bradley) said "In fact, we were unable to find any product superior to plain Ivory bar soap." also uses weak Hydrogen Peroxide solution twice in his tooth cleaning protocol, firstly along with Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda US) after the soap, and later as a standalone clear rinse. Their original research took place after reading the dental hygiene work of a Dr Gerard Judd; this man recommended "the use of mono-sodium phosphate

immediately after brushing with the bar soap. This step proved crucial to re-enameling of the teeth." Many people do use plain Bicarb/baking soda, and I did myself until I read about a possible problem. I'm sorry I can't remember it clearly, but it was to do with the bicarb in the mouth interacting with a particular nerve (I think), and affecting one of the body processes, possibly to do with the heart. I sometimes use it along with other stuff, and sometimes alone, but not all the time and alone. I think the trick is to use the plainest and purest soap you can. Rowena

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Yes, I used Ivory before -- in the beginning when I did not have any

Tooth Soap. It didn't taste great but it wasn't horrible.

Ann Marie

On Apr 15, 2008, at 6:41 PM,

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Has anybody used Peelu Dental Fibers? It is 100% natural and nonabrasive. On another list, a Dentist recommends Peelu Dental Fibers for whitening. I have used the product and like it.Pamela

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Pamala:

The things that I am trying to stay away from are in this product --- glycerin, glycerol, titanium and what is their natural oil.

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Has anybody used Peelu Dental Fibers? It is 100% natural and nonabrasive. On another list, a Dentist recommends Peelu Dental Fibers for whitening. I have used the product and like it.Pamela

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Sorbitol is also not good.On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Duke Stone wrote: Pamala:The things that I am trying to stay away from are in this product --- glycerin, glycerol, titanium and what is their natural oil.

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Thanks, Duke. The tin container the Peelu Dental Fibers is in didn't

have the ingredients.

Pamela

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> Pamala:

> The things that I am trying to stay away from are in this product

--- glycerin, glycerol, titanium and what is their natural oil.

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> Duke ---------------------------------> Hope your day goes well.

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What is wrong with Sorbitol?Pamelainasnit@... wrote: Sorbitol is also not good.On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Duke Stone wrote: Pamala:The things that I am trying to stay away from are in this product --- glycerin, glycerol, titanium and what is their natural oil.

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Since Duke sent me the original message regarding tooth soap I have

been reading the posts and doing a little research. I make bath

product including soap. Commercial bars of soap are not actually

soap, they are detergent bars. Real soap is named after the

saponification process which means the blending of lye and oil that

real soap is made from.

These are the ingredients of Dial " soap "

Active Ingredients: Triclocarban (0.78%) (Antibacterial)

Inactive Ingredients: Soap (Sodium Tallowate, Sodium Cocoate, Palm

Kernelate Types, Sodium Palmate), Water (Aqua), PEG 6 Methyl Ether,

Palm Acid (Or), Coconut Acid (Or), Tallow Acid, Fragrance (Parfum),

Glycerin, Sorbitol, Sodium Chloride, Penta Sodium Pentetate,

Tetrasodium Etidronate, Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891)

These are the ingredients of Ivory " soap "

The Ivory soap bar (classic) contains: sodium tallowate, sodium

cocoate or sodium palm kernelate, water, sodium chloride, sodium

silicate, magnesium sulfate, and fragrance

" what is monododium phoshate? "

Monosodium phosphate (NaH2PO4), also known as anhydrous monobasic

sodium phosphate, is used as a laxative and, in combination with

other sodium phosphates, as a pH buffer.

The pKa is 7.20. The sodium chloride equivalent value, or E-Value, is

0.49. It is soluble in 4.5 parts water. It is most commonly available

as colorless crystals or a white powder. It is insoluble in alcohol.

" what is bad about sorbitol? "

Sorbitol, also known as glucitol, is a sugar alcohol that the body

metabolises slowly. It is obtained by reduction of glucose changing

the ether group to an additional hydroxyl group hence the name sugar

alcohol.

Sorbitol is used in various cough syrups and " sugar-free " mints and

is usually listed under the inactive ingredients. Too much sorbitol

(from 10 to 50g, or more for adults) can cause gastro-intestinal

problems.[1]

Sorbitol is a sugar substitute often used in diet foods (including

diet drinks and ice cream) and sugar-free chewing gum

Ingredients of Tooth Soap:

Perfect Prescription Tooth Soap™ ingredients are: Specially

formulated soap made from saponified coconut, palm, and olive oils

and essential oil

$25 is much more expensive than the ingredients that go into

the " recipe " of tooth soap, even if you purchase the best essential

oils. The cost comes into the process of making the soap. If you

have made your own soap in the past then it would probably be easy to

make your own tooth soap. If you have never made soap before many

people do a lot of trial and error before they come up with a good

batch of soap. It is a science and it takes a lot of stirring to get

to trace unless you can find a good microwave/submersion blender

recipe. If your not afraid to work with lye and are up to the task

go for it! A good place to purchase the oils is www.thesage.com I

have ordered many, many times from them and their products are

superior. If you don't want to go thru the very long process of

ordering the oils and equipment and making the soap, $25 really isn't

that bad. In case you want to try your hand at making your own tooth

soap here is a good recipe:

Ingredients:

16 oz. olive oil

10 oz. Coconut Oil

6 oz. Palm Oil

12 oz. water

4.6 oz. lye

1 oz. Sweet Almond Oil added at trace.

Instructions:

Combine olive, coconut, palm. Add lye solution. Mix until trace. Add

almond oil. Pour into mold.

Many different essential oils can be added for fragrance/taste: star

anise, orange, clove, cinnamon star, peppermint, lemon, grapefruit

etc....

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Please do not try this unless you study on how to make soap!! Experienced

soap makers have lost eyesight, children have been severely injured due to

lye burns while someone ELSE was making the soap. Lye is a dangerous,

caustic substance.

Soap making is dangerous and it cannot be made by simply combining oils like

this. The lye must be added to distilled water or a milk solution, but

adding lye to the water isn't included in these directions. Temperature of

the oils and the lye must be correct before mixing them. Mixing is best

done with certain equipment like a hand blender, etc. You must know what

trace is. You must understand how to make a soap mold. How do you clean it

up? When can it be used? How do you check the recipe to make sure it isn't

lye heavy? What kind of water do you use?

I have a small soap company and I have been making goat milk soap for a few

years now. It took me a long time to get up the courage to make soap

because the lye solution is stinky and dangerous. The lye heavy soap can

burn, too. I wear protective gear when I make soap, including long sleeves,

gloves and goggles. I keep my children out of the area as well.

In my estimation, the reason that toothsoap costs so much is the time factor

involved in making it and the oil prices. Olive oil is the main ingredient

in most tooth soap that I've researched. That is very expensive these days.

Essential oils aren't cheap either. The real money factor comes from the

fact that the soap is shredded. That takes a lot of hand work, it is very

tedious (have done it before), and I believe that is why the price of

toothsoap is higher than the price of a regular bar of soap. My goat milk

soaps are $5.50 for a 5 oz. bar, and I would absolutely charge more for

toothsoap, if I decide to make it, because of the grating process, which

would probably need to be done by hand.

>>Ingredients:

16 oz. olive oil

10 oz. Coconut Oil

6 oz. Palm Oil

12 oz. water

4.6 oz. lye

1 oz. Sweet Almond Oil added at trace.

Instructions:

Combine olive, coconut, palm. Add lye solution. Mix until trace. Add

almond oil. Pour into mold.

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Absolutely!! I agree with everything said. Like I said, soap

making is a science. I read many books before I attempted my first

batch of soap. When I make soap I only do it when I am home alone. I

am personally afraid of the lye even with eye, hand and arm

protection. Also when the soap is completed it is still caustic

until it is completely dry. The recipe I gave is for someone to use

that knows how to make soap already. I'm sorry that I didn't specify

that, lye is not something to play around with, you must know what

you are doing. And again, $25 really isn't a lot to pay with you

consider the time that goes into the process of making the soap.

>

> Please do not try this unless you study on how to make soap!!

Experienced

> soap makers have lost eyesight, children have been severely injured

due to

> lye burns while someone ELSE was making the soap. Lye is a

dangerous,

> caustic substance.

>

> Soap making is dangerous and it cannot be made by simply combining

oils like

> this. The lye must be added to distilled water or a milk solution,

but

> adding lye to the water isn't included in these directions.

Temperature of

> the oils and the lye must be correct before mixing them. Mixing is

best

> done with certain equipment like a hand blender, etc. You must

know what

> trace is. You must understand how to make a soap mold. How do you

clean it

> up? When can it be used? How do you check the recipe to make sure

it isn't

> lye heavy? What kind of water do you use?

>

> I have a small soap company and I have been making goat milk soap

for a few

> years now. It took me a long time to get up the courage to make

soap

> because the lye solution is stinky and dangerous. The lye heavy

soap can

> burn, too. I wear protective gear when I make soap, including long

sleeves,

> gloves and goggles. I keep my children out of the area as well.

>

> In my estimation, the reason that toothsoap costs so much is the

time factor

> involved in making it and the oil prices. Olive oil is the main

ingredient

> in most tooth soap that I've researched. That is very expensive

these days.

> Essential oils aren't cheap either. The real money factor comes

from the

> fact that the soap is shredded. That takes a lot of hand work, it

is very

> tedious (have done it before), and I believe that is why the price

of

> toothsoap is higher than the price of a regular bar of soap. My

goat milk

> soaps are $5.50 for a 5 oz. bar, and I would absolutely charge more

for

> toothsoap, if I decide to make it, because of the grating process,

which

> would probably need to be done by hand.

>

>

>

> >>Ingredients:

> 16 oz. olive oil

> 10 oz. Coconut Oil

> 6 oz. Palm Oil

> 12 oz. water

> 4.6 oz. lye

> 1 oz. Sweet Almond Oil added at trace.

>

>

> Instructions:

> Combine olive, coconut, palm. Add lye solution. Mix until trace. Add

> almond oil. Pour into mold.

>