Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 Sorry about how screwed up my last post was. I tried to make it all nice and neat in rows, but obviosly, it didnt come out that way! Its still readable, any questions, i will be happy to answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I am just sharing the info i got from a professional qualified to treat epilepsy naturally. Yes, 1,600 iu of vitaminE IS alot for a child,as well as the calcium doses are high. That is why i made it clear a child 6-12 is only suppose to get HALF the doses i had posted, and a child 1-5 only gets ONE FOURTH. as neuro was involved and agreed the doses posted are healthy. It is hard to overdose on vitamins. I do not understand how we can push poison a.e.d's in our childrens mouths that cause HORRID side effects, then have a problem with vitamins. If anyone would like sights that explain the outcomes of vitamin depletion due to a.e.d.'s, please ask, and i will look them up for you. Alot of useful info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 Mark, There is ALWAYS confusion and different ways to look at things when it comes to treating epilepsy I to lecture. I to have done (7 years) of research. That is why i share with others. I have not come up with these doses myself. Like i said, it was from a natropath who went to school for this, then approved by a nuero. I have been all over the U.S. Trying to find answers from ANYONE that may be able to help. I am just trying to help others in need and answer questions that were asked. To me, it IS as simple as here is a recipe, try it on my child. Because, if i didnt take my chances, i would never cure my daughter. We are all in different situations. In my situation, my daughter has tried every med under the sun, only to make things worse. She has tried the keto diet, she has a vns, nothing worked. When i tried this " recipe " on my daughter, AND decreased her meds, her seizures reduced by 50% NOONE knows what is right for our children but ourselves!!!!! You do not have to take or agree with my advice. I am just here to try and help I understand what you were saying about dosages being to high. That is why it is important to know what a safe dose is for your child. I know it is hard to find what the correct dose is, especially when you are on drugs that totally deplete your body of quite a few vitamins. I also realize vitamins can interact with eachother. I believe that is why the naturopath gave me a vitamin regimin. I Thank You for your input, I do realize you are trying to help, just like me sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 , That is an awfully high dose of calcium for a child. Calcium can, in high enough amounts induce seizures. Caution on high dose calcium. Taurine is not really a building block for other amino acids as it is an amino acid and is formed primarily from cysteine with B6 being a necessary co-factor. Also, not only is 1,600 I.U.'s of vitamin E a bit high for a child but if it is in the form of alpha-tocopherol it may be detrimental. It needs a minimum of 50% gamma-tocopherol to be of real value. Mark [ ] Vitamin doses I went to see a naturopath to " safely " put a on a vitamin regimin. (I had no idea where to start) Here is what he gave me: The doses are an adult dose. For kids 1-5 its 1/4 the listed dose. For kids 6-12, 1/2 the listed dose. ESSENTIAL: Dose: Comments: DMG as directed on label increases oxygenation of tissues L-CARNITINE as directed on label depleted by a.e.d's required to make protein and deliver fatty acids to cells MAGNESIUM 700 mg daily in needed to calm nervous system 2 divided doses and muscle spasms SELENIUM as directed on label detoxifies peroxides in cells TAURINE as directed on label essential building block of amino acids. levels are often low in seizure disorders. B-COMPLEX 100mg 3xday important for proper brain function NIACIN 50mg day improves circulation B6 100-600mg 3x day needed for normal brain function under docs supervison B12 1,000-2,000mcg day protects nerve endings FOLIC ACID 400mcg day aed's deplete your body of this VERY IMPORTANT: CALCIUM 1,500 mg day normal nerve impulse transmission ZINC 50-80 mg day protects brain cells IMPORTANT: PROTEOLYTIC ENZYMES as directed on label aids in healing if seizures caused by PLUS imflammation MULTIENZYME COMPLEX VITAMIN E start with 400iu daily aids circulation, depleted by aed's gradually increase to 1,600iu day Hope this helps everyones questions about vitamins. Some tips are to give B12 an hour before or after any other vitamins or meds, or else it will not work. also, magnesium is needed for b vitamins to work. take magnesium on an empty stomach with apple cider vinager or betaine HCI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 , I lecture on the subject and have done a lot of research because of my child Tasya's seizure disorder. The idea of cutting the adult dosages in half for a child may sound right, but that is not always correct. Children's metabolic rates can be 4-5 times higher than adults which will effect how nutrients react in the body. I wish it were simpler but it isn't. Another thing is what genetic and environmental issues would effect how much a person needs? It isn't just as simple as here's my recipe, try it on yourself or your child. It is not hard to overdose on vitamins. If I were to tell you that adding 5 quarts more 10w-40 to your cars engine, beyond the manufacturers recommendations because that will make it run better, you would laugh at me. Adding nutrients because of studies and not for the biochemically individualized beings that we are is not optimal. While I certainly agree that A.E.D.'s are incredibly toxic (far worse than any nutrient), we cannot be blinded by the thought that vitamins and minerals do not have potential side-effects. Most of the negative effects are due to the creation of imbalances. Vitamin C in excess can induce mineral deficiencies if trace minerals are not added (from Dr. ing's work). I could give numerous examples of this effect. Mark Re: [ ] Vitamin doses I am just sharing the info i got from a professional qualified to treat epilepsy naturally. Yes, 1,600 iu of vitaminE IS alot for a child,as well as the calcium doses are high. That is why i made it clear a child 6-12 is only suppose to get HALF the doses i had posted, and a child 1-5 only gets ONE FOURTH. as neuro was involved and agreed the doses posted are healthy. It is hard to overdose on vitamins. I do not understand how we can push poison a.e.d's in our childrens mouths that cause HORRID side effects, then have a problem with vitamins. If anyone would like sights that explain the outcomes of vitamin depletion due to a.e.d.'s, please ask, and i will look them up for you. Alot of useful info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 , I have no doubt that what you are doing is for the right reasons. I know the naturopath is also on the same good path. It is just that I have listened to some of the so-called experts in the field of nutrition make egregious errors in their supplement recommendations. One of the reasons I lecture on the subject of childhood neurological issues as well as environmental health is because of my 8 1/2 year old daughter and the lack of information on how to help her disorder nutritionally and rationally. What you are doing is fantastic and very much appreciated. I hope I don't come off as being too critical cause if I did, I apologize. After researching this BodyBalance crap that Don is pushing I got a little testy. Would love to continue our discussions on-line to help as many people out there make educated decisions. In health, Mark Schauss www.carbonbased.com Re: [ ] Vitamin doses Mark, There is ALWAYS confusion and different ways to look at things when it comes to treating epilepsy I to lecture. I to have done (7 years) of research. That is why i share with others. I have not come up with these doses myself. Like i said, it was from a natropath who went to school for this, then approved by a nuero. I have been all over the U.S. Trying to find answers from ANYONE that may be able to help. I am just trying to help others in need and answer questions that were asked. To me, it IS as simple as here is a recipe, try it on my child. Because, if i didnt take my chances, i would never cure my daughter. We are all in different situations. In my situation, my daughter has tried every med under the sun, only to make things worse. She has tried the keto diet, she has a vns, nothing worked. When i tried this " recipe " on my daughter, AND decreased her meds, her seizures reduced by 50% NOONE knows what is right for our children but ourselves!!!!! You do not have to take or agree with my advice. I am just here to try and help I understand what you were saying about dosages being to high. That is why it is important to know what a safe dose is for your child. I know it is hard to find what the correct dose is, especially when you are on drugs that totally deplete your body of quite a few vitamins. I also realize vitamins can interact with eachother. I believe that is why the naturopath gave me a vitamin regimin. I Thank You for your input, I do realize you are trying to help, just like me sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 , Thank you for the great info, but I got it all scrambled and don't know what goes with what, can you please email it to me privately, maybe it will come out better. My email addy is foxyfoxgrace@.... Thanks again! Grace sarahbri813@... wrote: I went to see a naturopath to " safely " put a on a vitamin regimin. (I had no idea where to start) Here is what he gave me: The doses are an adult dose. For kids 1-5 its 1/4 the listed dose. For kids 6-12, 1/2 the listed dose. ESSENTIAL: Dose: Comments: DMG as directed on label increases oxygenation of tissues L-CARNITINE as directed on label depleted by a.e.d's required to make protein and deliver fatty acids to cells MAGNESIUM 700 mg daily in needed to calm nervous system 2 divided doses and muscle spasms SELENIUM as directed on label detoxifies peroxides in cells TAURINE as directed on label essential building block of amino acids. levels are often low in seizure disorders. B-COMPLEX 100mg 3xday important for proper brain function NIACIN 50mg day improves circulation B6 100-600mg 3x day needed for normal brain function under docs supervison B12 1,000-2,000mcg day protects nerve endings FOLIC ACID 400mcg day aed's deplete your body of this VERY IMPORTANT: CALCIUM 1,500 mg day normal nerve impulse transmission ZINC 50-80 mg day protects brain cells IMPORTANT: PROTEOLYTIC ENZYMES as directed on label aids in healing if seizures caused by PLUS imflammation MULTIENZYME COMPLEX VITAMIN E start with 400iu daily aids circulation, depleted by aed's gradually increase to 1,600iu day Hope this helps everyones questions about vitamins. Some tips are to give B12 an hour before or after any other vitamins or meds, or else it will not work. also, magnesium is needed for b vitamins to work. take magnesium on an empty stomach with apple cider vinager or betaine HCI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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