RE: Re: book recommendation Digest Number 1606

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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:38:21 -0600

From: " Don Vance " <dvance@...>

Subject: Re: book recommendation

Hey Mindy my son who is 6 has epilepsy. I was wondering, was the Glutamine

aminos a good thing or a bad thing with seizure disorders? Don

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>>> Din

Glutamine can make seizures happen in people who do not have seizures..... as

can nutrasweet and MSG..... both glutamines.

Read Braverman's book on amino acides and Blalock's book

Excitotoxins there is also another amino acid book published about 15 years ago

that

is excellent.

Also see the chapter on Epilepsy in Blach's Prescriptions for Nutritional

Healing.

mjh

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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Glutamine does not cause seizures in people who do not have seizures,

Glutamate can. Big difference. MSG is monosodium glutamate, nutrasweet is

not a glutamate, it is aspartate.

Re: book recommendation

>

> Hey Mindy my son who is 6 has epilepsy. I was wondering, was the

Glutamine

> aminos a good thing or a bad thing with seizure disorders? Don

> ----- Original Message -----

> .

> .

> >>> Din

>

> Glutamine can make seizures happen in people who do not have seizures.....

as

> can nutrasweet and MSG..... both glutamines.

>

> Read Braverman's book on amino acides and Blalock's book

> Excitotoxins there is also another amino acid book published about 15

years ago that

> is excellent.

>

> Also see the chapter on Epilepsy in Blach's Prescriptions for Nutritional

> Healing.

>

> mjh

> http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

>

>

>

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Is glutamic acid the same?

> Glutamine does not cause seizures in people who do not have seizures,

> Glutamate can. Big difference. MSG is monosodium glutamate, nutrasweet

is

> not a glutamate, it is aspartate.

>

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Glutamate is the salt form of glutamic acid as aspartate is the salt

form of aspartic acid. Glutamic acid (a neuroexcititory amino acid) is

made primarily, but not exclusively from glutamine but so can GABA (a

neuroinhibitory amino acid). Glutamic acid can be made from aspartic

acid, ornithine, arginine, proline and alpha-ketoglutarate. Of course,

the regulation of whether glutamic acid or GABA is produced is somewhat

vitamin B6 dependent. How much B6? Depends on the individual as well as

their dietary patterns, other mitigating circumstances (long term B6

deficiency, magnesium levels, etc) and environmental toxicity issues.

Confused yet? It gets worse.

Here is an example: People like Dr. Blaylock have called glycine

a neurotoxin. In actuality he is dead wrong. I reviewed a paper he

wrote about it and passed it to 12 people in the field of nutrition and

all of them disagreed with his assumption. Quite to the contrary it is

actually a neuroprotective amino acid and very helpful with seizure

prone individuals. Why do I bring this up? It's because of the

difficulty even for experts to draw proper conclusions which leads to an

increase level of frustration for the non-researchers (as well as us

researchers). Amino acids are powerful nutrients and blanket statements

about its benefits and dangers are often clouded with mystery.

It is clear that aspartic acid can induce seizures in some people. Yet

in some it may reduce seizure activity as it is an important component

in the removal of ammonia which can cause seizures. As a solo amino

acid it has been shown to be neurotoxic in relatively high quantities.

But in combination with other amino acids, especially balanced ones, it

may be helpful in promoting healthy brain function. Does anyone eat

chicken or pork? Well, interestingly enough pork contains a lot of

aspartic acid as does chicken. Most poultry is high in it. Does pork

or poultry induce seizure activity (assuming no allergies)? I think you

would be very hard pressed to find anything that suggests that.

What is the lesson that I have personally found with my own epileptic

child? Balance. Glutamine avoidance is near impossible and not healthy

in 99.9% of the cases as what some consider a neurotoxin - Glutamic

acid, is critical to healthy brain function, as long as it is kept in

check by adequate B6.

I have oft threatened to write a book on the subject but was held back

to my need to complete my doctorate, but with that complete, it may be

forthcoming.

In health,

Mark Schauss

www.carbonbased.com

Re: [ ] Re: book recommendation Digest Number 1606

Is glutamic acid the same?

> Glutamine does not cause seizures in people who do not have seizures,

> Glutamate can. Big difference. MSG is monosodium glutamate,

> nutrasweet

is

> not a glutamate, it is aspartate.

>