Re: Answer the question Mark! Why do you lie about BodyBalance? Did anyone take a couple moments and use the link I supplied to verify what I am saying is true!

[Guest guest]

The thing is though, I for one will have to leave this list or set to no mail

if these huge long argumentitive posts don't stop on here. Apart from chewing up

my internet download time, they just leave me with a bad feeling after reading

them.

I delete now whenever I see the Bodybalance subject line appear. If I wanted

to try it, I wouldn't listen to either side any more to be honest, I would

research it myself and come to my own conclusions.

Perhaps sending direct on this subject rather than through the group might be

a better option from now on?

----- Original Message -----

From: Don Vance

I will keep this in your face in front of everyone until you either leave

this group or confess your lie!

[Guest guest]

Once again it still has mercury, cadmium, aluminum, arsenic, and antimony.

Toxic metals. Poisons.

[ ] Supplements-costs-and credibility

Hi List,

As we have seen the fight over a supplement which has built in a

financial

incentive for some of its distributors to promote its use, even when

a

highly

regarded scientific researcher such as Mark Schauss,PhD who operates

a

testing

laboratory and is steeped in the alternative medical perspective and

that of a

parent-consumer has raised a very serious and legitimate objection

to

the

formula promoted. When the defenders of an economic interest begin

to

get

hysterical and abusive in their condemnation of theur critics, it is

a

good sign that

there is very little support for their position and claims. I am all

for

supplements, but please don't rely on them as your only source of

the

good

nutrients.And if cost becomes a factor as it is for many of you, buy

the

right

foods-hopefully organic, first then the supplement.

arnold

[Guest guest]

And I will no longer waste my time with you. You feel comfortable selling this

stuff. I think its toxic sludge, your product has heavy metals (by its own

admission) which is toxic. You can go on and on about whatever you want. I

won't continue with this psychotic discussion.

[ ] Supplements-costs-and credibility

Hi List,

As we have seen the fight over a supplement which has built in a

financial

incentive for some of its distributors to promote its use, even when

a

highly

regarded scientific researcher such as Mark Schauss,PhD who operates

a

testing

laboratory and is steeped in the alternative medical perspective and

that of a

parent-consumer has raised a very serious and legitimate objection

to

the

formula promoted. When the defenders of an economic interest begin

to

get

hysterical and abusive in their condemnation of theur critics, it is

a

good sign that

there is very little support for their position and claims. I am all

for

supplements, but please don't rely on them as your only source of

the

good

nutrients.And if cost becomes a factor as it is for many of you, buy

the

right

foods-hopefully organic, first then the supplement.

arnold

[Guest guest]

Admit that you lied to your " listmates " about the company and where

BodyBalance is made. There is psychosis here, and it's coming from

you, as you think you can continue to avoid my question by talking

about anything but my question. Let's see if we can penitrate your

psychosis of thinking that if you ignore what I keep asking that it

would just go away, by asking again WHY DID YOU LIE ABOUT WHERE

BODYBALANCE IS MADE, AND WHERE IT COMES FROM?!

Here Mark, I will help you down the path of recovery from your

psychosis, just click on this link and you will discover that Liquid

Life is made out of a Rockland mine in Emery Utah, and not

BodyBalance which is made from 9 sea vegetables harvested from the

ocean.

Better yet, I will just paste this page for you so you don't miss it

okay Mark?!

http://www.liquidlife.com/liquidLifeProductsFamily.html

Below is from the link above

Products for the Whole Family

For over twenty-five years, TRC Nutritional Laboratories has been

helping millions of health conscious people experience the benefits

of feeling well and living a healthy life. TRC pioneered the liquid

supplement industry by first introducing Body Toddy colloidal

minerals in 1984. Now these world-famous minerals are marketed under

TRC's Liquid Life® brand, a unique line of absorbable nutrition

products targeted for particular health needs.

The Rockland Minerals, used in our Liquid Life® products, are the

pure, plant derived minerals available. They are leached and

processed at the Rockland Mine in Emery, Utah. These minerals are

sold in 16 countries and are recognized as the most complete spectrum

of 75 minerals ever brought to market.

In the following pages, we introduce the latest additions to our

popular Liquid Life® line. Each product is designed to support

specific needs. These great tasting, easy-to-absorb liquids are a

convenient and affordable way to supplement your diet and maintain

good health.

Start by selecting the product you would most like to read about:

75 Colloidal Minerals

Liquid Life Complete

Ultra Calcium

Ultra Joint Care

Oxy-Gen

Male Vitality

Nighttime Diet

Or, if you would like to learn more about the importance of minerals

for your every day health, click here.

We hope that this site gives you all the information you need about

our Liquid Life® products. Should you have any questions or need

more information, please call 1-888-950-4594 or contact us via our

email form.

Get The Best Life Has To Offer, Try Liquid Life Today!

Okay is everyone including you Mark with me so far? Here is your

previous post below about BodyBalance, Life Force and me Nov 12th;

From: Mark Schauss

Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:29 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Supplements-costs-and credibility

Arnold,

Thanks for the post. I found out a little bit more about the product

in

question. It seems that part of its source for the minerals is none

other than the Rockland Corporation, a group out of Utah that sells

ground up clay (collodial's) that they say comes from an ancient sea

vegetable source. My brother , did a paper for the NIH that tested

products like theirs and found levels of heavy metals up to 100 times

the label claim and that many of the essential trace elements they had

on their label weren't there.

What bothers me the most is when you peel off the outer layers of the

organizations like Life Force, you find people who make a living out

of

recycling products that have been removed from the market by the FDA

only to be renamed, slightly reformulated and resold using the same

drivel that got them into trouble in the first place. People like Don

are down line distributors who genuinely think they are doing the

right

thing but don't have the knowledge base in which to make an informed

decision about a product.

The saddest thing to me is that children are taking this product.

Adults have the ability to make decisions, right or wrong. Children

don't have that luxury and I sincerely believe that this product can

hurt them in both the short and especially the long term.

In health,

Mark Schauss

P.S. My doctorate is not a Ph.D. Arnold it is a Doctorate in Business.

I am a bit sensitive about this as I have seen too many people out

there

lie about their degrees (2 of whom did it to me) so I want to make

sure

that my educational background is honestly portrayed.

APPARANTLY YOUR PSYCHOSIS IS HELPING YOU TO FORGET WHAT YOU HAD

PREVIOUSLY REPORTED THROUGH YOUR SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH ABOUT THE

PRODUCT IN QUESTION BODYBALANCE! WHEN YOU ARE WRONG ADMIT IT, OR I

WILL JUST CALL YOU A LIAR THEN! DON

> And I will no longer waste my time with you. You feel comfortable

selling this stuff. I think its toxic sludge, your product has heavy

metals (by its own admission) which is toxic. You can go on and on

about whatever you want. I won't continue with this psychotic

discussion.

> RE: [ ] Business degree diversionary

tactics! Not with me/ Stay on the subject of me claiming you lied

about your research on Bodybalance and where it comes from

>

>

> Whatever you say.

>

> been removed]

[Guest guest]

HEY DON,I HOPE YOUR NOT SAYING I SAID ANYTHING BAD ABOUT BODYBALANCE!!!!!!!!!

BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING BAD ABOUT IT.I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT

BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD MONEY TO BUY ANY.MARK

Don Vance <dvance@...> wrote:Mark, once again an attempt to blow me off!

Instead of diversionary tactics, now it's " whatever " ! I will ask you again and

again, why did you lie about BodyBalance being researched by you, and that your

research brought you to the information you told everyone it was made in a mine

in Utah?! I am so glad to see your done with your know-it-all attitude with me,

and have come to grips with the fact that you lied about BodyBalance's company ,

and how it was made, and have no way to defend yourself on the matter,except by

saying whatever like a little kid! You are not going to side step me now after

trying to debunk BodyBalance and lying about it! You have reduced your big talk

with me now down to three words....(whatever you say).

Well Mark, we are getting somewhere now aren't we? All I and your listmates

need to hear is the truth. I will accept 2 words this time! I Lied! That's all

you have to type into your computer to everyone. Tell them you lied about who

makes BodyBalance, and you lied about where it comes from! If you think I am

going to drop this just because you think you're not going to answer my

question, you are wrong. You attacked me, BodyBalance, and Life Force

International's credibility and I want an admission of you lying about your

statements. Do not dodge me. I will keep this in your face in front of

everyone until you either leave this group or confess your lie! Sorry I could

not respond to your 3 word reply sooner, as I was out of town. I said I was not

going to post any more, so you figured I wasn't monitering what you say, so you

figured you'd bash Life Force one more time and got caught lying about the

company's product and how it was made. Don

[ ] Supplements-costs-and credibility

Hi List,

As we have seen the fight over a supplement which has built in a

financial

incentive for some of its distributors to promote its use, even when

a

highly

regarded scientific researcher such as Mark Schauss,PhD who operates

a

testing

laboratory and is steeped in the alternative medical perspective and

that of a

parent-consumer has raised a very serious and legitimate objection

to

the

formula promoted. When the defenders of an economic interest begin

to

get

hysterical and abusive in their condemnation of theur critics, it is

a

good sign that

there is very little support for their position and claims. I am all

for

supplements, but please don't rely on them as your only source of

the

good

nutrients.And if cost becomes a factor as it is for many of you, buy

the

right

foods-hopefully organic, first then the supplement.

arnold

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark Hogue, absolutely not you! I have been trying to get a response

from Mark Schauss as to why he lied about BodyBalance and Life Force

International! I hope your seizures are still at zero or close to it!

Don't forget to take your boots off when you get inside the ranch down there

in Texas! Take care Mark Hogue, and thanks for the scriptures daily! Don

[ ] Supplements-costs-and credibility

Hi List,

As we have seen the fight over a supplement which has built in a

financial

incentive for some of its distributors to promote its use, even when

a

highly

regarded scientific researcher such as Mark Schauss,PhD who operates

a

testing

laboratory and is steeped in the alternative medical perspective and

that of a

parent-consumer has raised a very serious and legitimate objection

to

the

formula promoted. When the defenders of an economic interest begin

to

get

hysterical and abusive in their condemnation of theur critics, it is

a

good sign that

there is very little support for their position and claims. I am all

for

supplements, but please don't rely on them as your only source of

the

good

nutrients.And if cost becomes a factor as it is for many of you, buy

the

right

foods-hopefully organic, first then the supplement.

arnold

[Guest guest]

HE'S RESPONED VERY NEGATIVELY IF HE HASN'T TRIED IT HIMSELF!!!! WHENEVER I GET

EXTRA MONEY I'LL HAVE TO GET SOME FROM YOU TAKE CARE,MARK P.S. I FOGOT ABOUT HIM

HE HAS TRIED TO MAKE EVERYTHING NEGATIVE.

Don Vance <dvance@...> wrote:Hi Mark Hogue, absolutely not you! I have

been trying to get a response

from Mark Schauss as to why he lied about BodyBalance and Life Force

International! I hope your seizures are still at zero or close to it!

Don't forget to take your boots off when you get inside the ranch down there

in Texas! Take care Mark Hogue, and thanks for the scriptures daily! Don

[ ] Supplements-costs-and credibility

Hi List,

As we have seen the fight over a supplement which has built in a

financial

incentive for some of its distributors to promote its use, even when

a

highly

regarded scientific researcher such as Mark Schauss,PhD who operates

a

testing

laboratory and is steeped in the alternative medical perspective and

that of a

parent-consumer has raised a very serious and legitimate objection

to

the

formula promoted. When the defenders of an economic interest begin

to

get

hysterical and abusive in their condemnation of theur critics, it is

a

good sign that

there is very little support for their position and claims. I am all

for

supplements, but please don't rely on them as your only source of

the

good

nutrients.And if cost becomes a factor as it is for many of you, buy

the

right

foods-hopefully organic, first then the supplement.

arnold

[Guest guest]

How refreshing Mark Hogue. I have been seeking the truth on why Mark Schauss

would lie about where BodyBalance is made, and he has not answered my 1

question! I had stated that if at least one person who believes in the truth

would look at the link (which I copied and pasted right in front of them) and

just agree that Mark had lets just say MISINFORMED EVERYONE, that I would stop

trying to get water out of a rock(MARK)!

Not one person would say, yes Don, it's right here. Liquid Life is the product

made in a mine in Emery Utah, not BodyBalance. Unfortunately, it seems Mark has

everyone mesmorized with his far superior intellect! It makes sense that the

only person speaking of the truth about this matter, would be the person who

sends out scriptures of truth to everyone! Thanks for the scripture of the day

today Mark Hogue! Don Vance

[ ] Supplements-costs-and credibility

Hi List,

As we have seen the fight over a supplement which has built in a

financial

incentive for some of its distributors to promote its use, even when

a

highly

regarded scientific researcher such as Mark Schauss,PhD who operates

a

testing

laboratory and is steeped in the alternative medical perspective and

that of a

parent-consumer has raised a very serious and legitimate objection

to

the

formula promoted. When the defenders of an economic interest begin

to

get

hysterical and abusive in their condemnation of theur critics, it is

a

good sign that

there is very little support for their position and claims. I am all

for

supplements, but please don't rely on them as your only source of

the

good

nutrients.And if cost becomes a factor as it is for many of you, buy

the

right

foods-hopefully organic, first then the supplement.

arnold