Guest guest Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 Hey everyone- more amino acid talk... I saw a naturopath yesterday that wants me to give my son taurine (which I already am ) and threonine- which I know nothing about.. Anyone know anything about threonine? anyone know the recommended dosage for taurine/kg. Thanks so much --- Mark Schauss <schauss@...> wrote: > Glutamate is the salt form of glutamic acid as > aspartate is the salt > form of aspartic acid. Glutamic acid (a > neuroexcititory amino acid) is > made primarily, but not exclusively from glutamine > but so can GABA (a > neuroinhibitory amino acid). Glutamic acid can be > made from aspartic > acid, ornithine, arginine, proline and > alpha-ketoglutarate. Of course, > the regulation of whether glutamic acid or GABA is > produced is somewhat > vitamin B6 dependent. How much B6? Depends on the > individual as well as > their dietary patterns, other mitigating > circumstances (long term B6 > deficiency, magnesium levels, etc) and environmental > toxicity issues. > Confused yet? It gets worse. > > Here is an example: People like Dr. Blaylock > have called glycine > a neurotoxin. In actuality he is dead wrong. I > reviewed a paper he > wrote about it and passed it to 12 people in the > field of nutrition and > all of them disagreed with his assumption. Quite to > the contrary it is > actually a neuroprotective amino acid and very > helpful with seizure > prone individuals. Why do I bring this up? It's > because of the > difficulty even for experts to draw proper > conclusions which leads to an > increase level of frustration for the > non-researchers (as well as us > researchers). Amino acids are powerful nutrients > and blanket statements > about its benefits and dangers are often clouded > with mystery. > > It is clear that aspartic acid can induce seizures > in some people. Yet > in some it may reduce seizure activity as it is an > important component > in the removal of ammonia which can cause seizures. > As a solo amino > acid it has been shown to be neurotoxic in > relatively high quantities. > But in combination with other amino acids, > especially balanced ones, it > may be helpful in promoting healthy brain function. > Does anyone eat > chicken or pork? Well, interestingly enough pork > contains a lot of > aspartic acid as does chicken. Most poultry is high > in it. Does pork > or poultry induce seizure activity (assuming no > allergies)? I think you > would be very hard pressed to find anything that > suggests that. > > What is the lesson that I have personally found with > my own epileptic > child? Balance. Glutamine avoidance is near > impossible and not healthy > in 99.9% of the cases as what some consider a > neurotoxin - Glutamic > acid, is critical to healthy brain function, as long > as it is kept in > check by adequate B6. > > I have oft threatened to write a book on the subject > but was held back > to my need to complete my doctorate, but with that > complete, it may be > forthcoming. > > In health, > Mark Schauss > www.carbonbased.com > > > Re: [ ] Re: book recommendation > Digest Number 1606 > > > Is glutamic acid the same? > > > > Glutamine does not cause seizures in people who do > not have seizures, > > Glutamate can. Big difference. MSG is monosodium > glutamate, > > nutrasweet > is > > not a glutamate, it is aspartate. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 Threonine is the precursor to Glycine and is important in blood sugar regulation. I always would hesitate to add a single amino acid supplement (except glycine and taurine) without taking a broad spectrum amino acid. Re: [ ] Re: book recommendation > > Digest Number 1606 > > > > > > Is glutamic acid the same? > > > > > > > Glutamine does not cause seizures in people who do > > not have seizures, > > > Glutamate can. Big difference. MSG is monosodium > > glutamate, > > > nutrasweet > > is > > > not a glutamate, it is aspartate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 I give my daughter 500mg once a day, but I plan on giving her 500mg 2x a day and she weighs 130 lbs. but I believe the correct dose is 500mg 3X a day. As for threonine, it's supposed to help prevent fat build-up in the liver and it's supposed to help the digestive and intestinal tracts function more smoothly and it's supposed to assist in metabolism and assimilation. I don't know that dose, but I'd go with what it says on the bottle because it's usually pretty accurate. I started giving my daughter a liquid amino acid complex along with the taurine because in my research of amino acids, it was stated that if you use an amino acid for longer than 1 month that you should also use an amino acid complex which is a mixture of all the amino acids to balance the amino acids in your body. Anyone that knows more about amino acids, please feel free to give your two cents. Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 Mark, So you say that it's ok to take taurine alone without an amino acid complex? I've read several articles that state that you should add an amino acid complex if you plan on taking taurine or any other single amino acid to balance them all out in your body. Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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